43, vegan and very active.. seriously???

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poopysheep
poopysheep Member Posts: 40

Are they any more of me out there. I'm not even sure how it's possible I've ended up with breast cancer. Goes to show literally it can hit anyone. Is there any other longer term vegans/plant based, active women out there with triple positive tumours??


What do you change in terms of lifestyle at this point...


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  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2016

    Well, lifestyle does not determine whether one gets cancer. It can be a contributing factor, but not necessarily. Cancer is a genetic mutation. Even if you have no known family history, you could have inherited a gene predisposing you for cancer. I have an extensive family history, and, for decades, was almost waiting for the shoe to drop, before it did. I am also a vegan, btw. Best wishes!

  • poopysheep
    poopysheep Member Posts: 40
    edited November 2016

    Yeah - no family history either. sigh... tis what it is i suppose...

    I have a little senior rescue Yorkie too (well i think he's a silky) He's 13 with 3 legs and one eye hahaha I adopted him last year after he was seized for abuse (and had to have his leg amputated). He's only got about 8 teeth left and I'm pretty sure he's going deaf. I love him.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    I have a friend who is vegan and won't get mammograms because she believes she won't get cancer due to her lifestyle. She's 49.

    It is interesting that you are HER2+ , yet only grade 1. Who knows? Maybe if you ate crappy, your cancer might have been more aggressive? Like yorkiemom said, I also think lifestyle can be a contributing factor but not a direct cause. I'm a firm believer in the crapshoot theory. ;)

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited November 2016

    I'm with SusansGarden.

    Cancer is a crapshoot for most of us. Most of us do not test positive for BRCA1 or BRCA2. Many of us don't have a family history of cancer. (Mine is a stroke family.) Many of us have led healthy lives -- exercised, eaten well, not smoked, etc., etc. It is what it is.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited November 2016

    Genetics (not just the currently known genes) definitely play a role. I can also point to two other things I believe were contributors to my original dx and re-dx. HRT and other hormonal meds such as bc pills used over a lifetime, and stress. I honestly believe the latter is a huge factor for many of us and the thing I work as much to control as my lifestyle and diet, which have always been holisticly influenced (at various times vegan, vegetarian, pescetarian, but very much plant based, organic and raw) and athletic. My lifestyle has kept me youthful, strong and healthy -- except for bc.

    Crapshoot is a word I don't totally buy, although I use it, especially when someone is feeling guilty about a past behavior vis-a-vis their dx. I think things can appear to be a crapshoot when we don't understand all the mechanisms involved, but I suspect there are always causes or combinations of causes -- which may be very different for each of us -- so do in a way make it a crapshoot. But whether or not every cause, especially environmental toxins (as I personally suspect with younger women and TNBC), is preventable, I think is still to be seen. So I only like "crapshoot" as a way of saying, don't feel guilty because we just yet don't know," if that makes sense... Deanna



  • Cwhitney
    Cwhitney Member Posts: 87
    edited November 2016

    I am 42 with no family history, exercised, ate well, breast feed three babies for years and got suckered punched with a triple positive tumor all from tiny calcification found on my mammogram. I was shocked when I got the news that I am brca2. It made sense to me since since I lived such a healthy life. I just wish genetic testing was available to all so that I could have been proactive about my health. I too think some people are just more prone to cancer. It's not fair but it is what it is.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited November 2016

    God bless you for adopting that baby! My yorkie passed 3 years ago. We now have a Pomeranian rescue. I just can't change my user name because I still feel connected to our precious little passed one. She has come back to me, and my husband, in several dreams. Have to say we also totally adore our new companion.

  • Kimm992
    Kimm992 Member Posts: 135
    edited November 2016

    I was diagnosed at 35. No family history of ANY cancer, ate well, very fit, don't smoke, don't drink, etc, etc. Negative for BRCA genes.

    Just won the cancer lottery!

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited November 2016

    Yes, poopysheep, my friends all said, "What -- YOU?" because of my reputation for a clean lifestyle. Like some of the others above, I believe several factors come together to cause cancer, and these factors can vary for each person. I don't blame the victim, and there are factors we don't know about and/or can't control, such as our own genetics, random cell mutations, and environmental exposures. I do think it is worth doing what we can, as long as we understand it is not all in our control. Some things may help us get or stay healthier, or at least help us withstand treatment.

    You asked what we can change in terms of lifestyle at this point, if we are already doing well with diet and exercise. Here is my list of things to consider and work on. This is not a list to stress over, but one to empower.

    • Sleep -- Enough, and in a completely dark room for natural melatonin production
    • De-stressing -- Meditation, prayer, yoga, mindfulness, nature, laughter. Balanced lifestyle.
    • Social Support -- Friends, family, support groups, private counseling
    • Joy and Meaning -- Your hobbies, enjoyable activities, sense of purpose, etc.
    • Environment and Products--A sensible amount of sunshine for natural vitamin D and circadian rhythm. Avoid pesticides, BPA, parabens, etc.
    • Nutrition
    • Exercise



  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2016

    Good point, Shetland Pony. I do think that my "healthier" lifestyle did help me recover from surgery quicker, regain full range of motion, have less complications, etc. It definitely doesn't hurt. :)

  • Wicked
    Wicked Member Posts: 141
    edited November 2016

    I'm 49, negative for all genetic mutations, vegan for 2 years, was vegetarian for 30+ prior to that, never smoked or drank, and a 5xweek swimmer for decades. And here I am with BC.

  • poopysheep
    poopysheep Member Posts: 40
    edited November 2016

    I wonder about that as well since i haven't seen very many grade 1 HER2 positive ladies ... it makes me feel better to think that maybe my lifestyle choices these past 4 years had some sort of positive affect.


    My family doctor started crying when she told me, i felt really bad for her cause she wasn't even going to bother checking out the lump i found. I have breast implants already and she thought it was just some scarring from that surgery. She literally couldn't believe it.

    I did heal quite quickly from the lumpectomy and lymph removals. I was back out in the my mountains back country ski touring last weekend and was back running 2 weeks post op ... yay kale!hahaha

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