Newly Diagnosed, Ultrasound Question, Looking for Hope
Hi,
I'm 46 and was diagnosed 2 weeks ago with IDC. Lump is 2.2cm and at least 1 node is affected.
I've had 2 ultrasounds of my breast and armpit. The first ultrasound didn't show lymph node involvement but the second one showed 1 ugly black node which tested positive for cancer. I'm hoping it's a good sign that in the 2 ultrasounds only 1 node showed something. I understand that their could be cancer cells in other nodes but I'm hoping it's not too bad that surgery and chemo can't get rid of it.
The surgeon said I'm at least a stage 2 but won't know for sure until she does the surgery. She's planning on taking out 2 rows of lymph nodes.
I'm scared of what stage I may be and how many lymph nodes are involved. Does anyone have any positive stories of stage 2 or higher with nodes positive? I could really use some inspiration.
Thanks,
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Hi whippetiggy:
I am sorry to hear of your recent diagnosis. I am wondering if you have your HER2 test results back yet? If you were HER2 negative (HER2-), then with ER- PR-, that would be triple-negative disease. On the other hand, if the HER2 test result was positive, it would be HER2+ disease (ER- PR- HER2+).
Sorry in advance if you already know all this, but just in case, please note the following. For either triple-negative disease or HER2+ disease, with a tumor ~ 2.2 cm in size and lymph node involvement, you are a possible candidate for systemic drug treatment prior to surgery, known as "neoadjuvant" (preoperative) therapy (either chemotherapy prior to surgery for "triple-negative" disease OR chemotherapy plus HER2-targeted therapy for HER2+ disease).
In the appropriate case, for those with extensive disease, shrinkage of the tumor may permit the option of lumpectomy plus radiation in lieu of mastectomy. Neoadjuvant treatment may also reduce disease burden in the lymph nodes, sometimes enabling less extensive axillary treatment (please confirm this).
Another potential advantage of neoadjuvant treatment is that it can provide information about "pathological response", meaning they can monitor during treatment and at later surgical removal, if the tumor responds / responded to the chemotherapy regimen (shrinks or disappears completely (i.e., "pathological complete response")). If the response is not adequate, this information allows a switch to a different regimen.
In the case of HER2+ disease, with neoadjuvant treatment, there is better access to and more likely insurance approval for pertuzumab (Perjeta) in addition to trastuzumab (Herceptin), and receipt of both HER2-targeted therapies may be beneficial (if indicated).
If you have not already consulted with a Medical Oncologist, please request a referral as soon as possible for an appointment (prior to surgery) to obtain expert advice about the option of neoadjuvant therapy, to ensure you have an opportunity to make an informed decision about this important option.
Best,
BarredOwl
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Thank you for your response. I'm waiting for the HER2 results. I think they'll be in tomorrow. I thought I understood what you said to be the same as what the surgeon said but my mind went blank after she told me I had cancer. So, I must have heard her correctly because you just said the exact same thing.
I meet with the oncologist Tuesday morning to see what they want to do first - surgery or neoadjuvant therapy. Now I have something really important to ask him. I think I'd opt for the neoadjuvant therapy first if they think it'll benefit me. I hate this waiting and not knowing what's happening!
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I had stage 2 with a positive node. Surgery was 1 year, 8 months ago and I'm doing fine.
Best of luck!
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Excellent news ksusan!!!!! That's great to hear!
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Ypu are in the most challenging mental phase now. The waiting. Whether you do chemo before or after surgery, be sure to hop over to the chemotherapy board and find the group for the month you're starting. Those gals allowed me to plow through chemo and vent when needed to people who understood. I am still close with my chemo groups and am actually meeting a few gals in Vegas in 2 weeks to run a half marathon (my profile picture is from last year's half when we met in Vegas). It does not seem like it now, but there IS life after cancer treatment.
You CAN do this. If you have questions, pleas ask
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First of all - fantastic!!!!! I'm so happy for you!
I'm brand new here and am not really forum literate. Thank you for directing me to the chemo board. I'll find it as soon as I get my treatment plan.
My neighbor had DCIS 22 years ago and has been trying to get it through my head that this is the worst mental phase too. She said that once they give me a plan and I start going through the motions, I'll accept it and "get it done".
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I'm over two years into my recovery. I had chemo first, so staging accurately was more difficult but I was either stage 2 or 3 and had one positive node. You can get through this!
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Trust these ladies, they are a source of comfort and knowledge. I was dx on Oct 18, and I was a nervous wreck for a week. I met Medical Oncologist last week and I felt like a huge brick had been lifted of my shoulders. Now to see surgeon on Tuesday, I just want to get moving forward, get a plan in action.
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Awesome news! And I thought I'd heard the surgeon say that may be an option. I'd love to do the chemo first. I'm not looking forward to surgery at all.
I'm so glad I came here to this forum. I'm finally getting some hope!
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I'm sorry about your diagnosis but I can certainly relate. I've met the surgeon already and next the medical oncologist Tuesday.
After today, listening to everyone who's answered here, this is the best and most positive I've felt since being diagnosed.
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whippetiggy, that's great. You really can get through this.
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Stage 2, one node positive out of 22. It's almost 1 year since surgery and I'm feeling great! Other than some arm tightness from the surgery, no huge side effects from hormone therapy. I chose not to do chemo because my oncotype was low risk.
Best of luck to you and let's hope for just one node!
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Hi whippetiggy:
Good and good luck at your appointment on Tuesday morning. I am a good note taker, so I took handwritten notes at appointments. Others request permission to record the appointment on their cell phone.
BarredOwl
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I didn't find out my HER2 today. They told me I'll find it out tomorrow. I just wish they'd get moving on this. So many appointments but nothing is happening to kill this stuff.
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Just got more info. I'm Triple Negative and the oncologist suggests neoadjuvant therapy and says I've got a very good prognosis. He said with this fast-moving type of cancer, I did catch it early. I didn't think I did - 6 months.
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whippetiggy - Come join us on the Calling all TNs thread. You'll find a great, supportive group of ladies that are also triple negative. You can see my details in my signature line below, so you'll see that I had a large tumor and multiple positive nodes. I also had neoadjuvant chemo and had a pathological complete response (PCR). No cancer cells were found in breast tissue or lymph nodes when I had my BMX. Triple negative typically responds really well to chemo. I just recently celebrated 6 years. You can do this! Please feel free to ask questions along the way. We're all here for you.
Hugs,
Kathy
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Excellent news Kathy! I'm actually relieved to hear this oncologist's prognosis. I can finally breathe again.
I'll be over to Calling all TN's after my appointment. I'm just on my way out the door.
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