gerson Theraphy

wendymk2016
wendymk2016 Member Posts: 63
edited July 2017 in Recipe Swap for Healthy Living

Does anyone hear of Gerson Therapy? I was told by my cousin that it is very helpful and it can heal many serious diseases including cancer.

What it asks is to buy a super fancy juicer and make up to 12 cups of fresh vegi/fruit juice from raw/organic vegetable/fruits. And drink it every day. It says these juice are from 15lb vegetable which a person can not eat/digest in one day without the juice maker.

I am not sure anyone in this forum tried or ongoing this Therapy. Does it help to, at least reduce the chance of re-occurring of BC.

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  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited October 2016

    I think the Gerson Diet has been pretty thoroughly debunked medically and is considered "quackery." It is also a lot more rigid than doing a lot of juicing. NO salt. Coffee enemas etc.

    Remember the old movie/book Death Be Not Proud? It was written by the father of a child who had glioma multiformae, an aggressive brain cancer. They took him to the Gerson Clinic. It certainly didn't cure their child.

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  • wendymk2016
    wendymk2016 Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2016

    I was kind of into this because my cousin herself has stage 3 ovarian C, and she is recovering pretty well and close to her 5 years milestone. She highly recommended it and said she used to drunk 10 cups per day to wash off the toxin in her body. Now since she is doing great so she cut off to 3 cups a day.

    I guess at least there is no harm to drink vegi/fruit juice as a pretty healthy diet.

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  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited October 2016

    There actually can be harm. Juicing is just mainlining carbohydrates with no protein or fat or fiber to slow down the glycemic load. Elevated blood sugar has been shown to be a risk factor in breast cancer and all carbs with no protein and fat can definitely contribute to insulin resistance.

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  • mkinoly
    mkinoly Member Posts: 86
    edited October 2016

    Fruits and vegetables can contain protein and fat, they are not all just all carbs. The point of the Gerson Therapy is to flood the body with nutrients and to get rid of toxins. It is an extreme, short-term protocol intended to give the body support to heal itself. This is the opposite of chemotherapy. Gerson sounds logical to me and I disagree that it's been "debunked" or is "quackery". Conventional treatment doesn't cure yet remains the standard of care despite all signs pointing to its failure. I think anything we can do to work WITH our bodies instead of against them could be helpful and certainly not harmful.

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  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited October 2016

    All those antioxidants you are flooding your body with make cancer cells happy too. Women are often told not to even take any supplements during chemo because they can make treatment less effective. Your kidneys and liver do a fine job of "detoxifying" your body. Gerson was originally intended as a long term therapy. I can think of no juicable vegatables that have any significant amounts of protein. Banana & avocado are the only fatty ones that come to mind

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  • wendymk2016
    wendymk2016 Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2016

    I think the it will be good to take the conventional treatment, and on top of that, take some good part of Gerson therapy, such as drink 2-3 cups of vegi/fruit juice a day, and still keep the regular diet to make sure enough intake for protein + fiber, in additional, maintain the workout schedule such as jogging 30-45 min every another day, hopefully that will reduce the risk of reoccurring.

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  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited October 2016

    A source I like for dietary suggestions to complement the various conventional therapies is Food for Breast Cancer. The author discusses the scientific evidence behind the suggestions.

    http://foodforbreastcancer.com/

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  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited October 2016

    Eating reasonable, normal portions of antioxidant-containing foods can't do any harm (unless they interact with anti-hormonal meds). But taking antioxidant supplements while undergoing active cancer treatment is dangerous. Yes, antioxidants mop up the free radicals that cause cell damage. But the whole point of cancer treatment is to cause irreversible damage to tumor cells (radiation by altering the tumor cells' DNA, chemo by killing fast-dividing cells, endocrine therapy by starving the cells of the estrogen they need to divide). Just as radiation and chemo can't tell the difference between cancer and non-cancer cells, and endocrine therapy can't deprive only the cancer cells of estrogen (and these therapies, therefore, cause “collateral damage" via killing fast-dividing “good" tissues and depriving the entire body of estrogen), antioxidants can't protect just the good cells and let the cancer cells fall victim to free radicals.

    Gerson has been thoroughly debunked as junk science, as Melissa says (his diet was administered to the protagonists of not just “Death Be Not Proud," but also the Readers' Digest feature “The Gift of Janis Babson," the first two books I ever read about cancer patients). He (and his descendants) hold pride of place at Quackwatch.org.

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  • wendymk2016
    wendymk2016 Member Posts: 63
    edited October 2016

    Maybe I am just trying to seek some hope that can make me feel there is some sort of way that can heal this disease. By listening to my cousin's experiences, or reading some Chris walker story, both of them sort of following the key point of Gerson therapy, it makes me 'want to' believe so I can be more optimistic toward my own disease.

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  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited October 2016

    Wendy, I absolutely think we can do things to help ourselves, and good for you for being proactive. We do not have complete understanding or control of everything that contributes to cancer, but that does not mean we are completely powerless. You might be interested in the book Anti-Cancer: A New Way of Life by David Servan-Schreiber. It is a favorite of many here on BCO.

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  • PeggyG6020
    PeggyG6020 Member Posts: 40
    edited July 2017

    I know someone who was very unsucessful on this theraphy. She refused medical intervention, suffered terribly.

    I know there is a lot out there on the internet about "miracle cures" BUT, how do you know which one will help you? You can't try all of them. I think a vegan, no sugar, no preservatives, no artificial sweeteners are as close to a cure as you can get. I did this during chemo, radiation, and continue this diet. I have Crohns disease that was horrible during the beginning of my chemo treatments, but I came out healthy and so I am sticking to this diet. Even if you don't go fully vegan, eat your veggies, take a fiber supplement, get your vitamins and exercise, even if you can only manage a walk once a day. My OC thought I would not get thought chemo and by my last treatment, absolutely no side effects. She also said the sugar feeds cancer, so don't give into those cravings for ice cream and candy bars during chemo. I know you don't alway feel like eating, but food can be healing to your body. And the more good things you put into it, the better off you are.

    You have to find what works for you. I learned this from my GI doc in 1983. He told me --"it's your body, You need to educate yourself about this disease, and you need to learn how to live with it". We are all different, but we all want to be healthy, so find what works for you.

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