I was just diagnosed with IDC

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klwils3
klwils3 Member Posts: 5

Hello everyone I am very new to this group and VERY afraid. I was given the diagnosis of IDC this past Monday 8/8/2016. All I know at this point is that I have two tumors and both are under one centimeter. The cancer is outside the duct, well differentiated, focal intermediate grade, in situ, tumor is positive for E-Cadherin, ER and PR (I have no idea what any of that is) Tumor is Equivocal for HER-2/NEU (2+) by Immunohistochemistry. My appointment to meet with the surgeon is next Thursday 8/18/2016. I have no clue what to do, I am so terrified. I cry, I cant sleep all I can think about is this cancer that has invaded my body. I am doing some natural supplements that I have read even cured some cancers. I am afraid to even eat because I don't want to feed it! Am I crazy? I feel so crazy!! It helps so much to hear from others that have gone through what I am at this time. Please help me cope! Any advice is so much appreciated!! What questions should I ask etc. I just want it off of me!!!

Thank you for your help! Love to all!!

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  • Luckynumber47
    Luckynumber47 Member Posts: 397
    edited August 2016

    I am so sorry you are going through this. Hearing this diagnosis is mind boggling. You are not crazy, every single person here has gone through these exact same emotions. Take a deep breath, maybe many deep breaths. Meditation and guided imagery helps. So do anti anxiety drugs. I'm not the kind of person who takes drugs for any reason but even I wish they had handed out anti anxiety drugs with my diagnosis.

    It may not make sense, but there is no need to rush into surgery, you have time to learn what's going on and what the best choices are for you. Do you want a lumpectomy with radiation or a mastectomy? Do you want reconstruction (with all the issues and extra surgeries entailed) or are you fine being flat? Will chemo be recommended? Are your lymph nodes negative? (That's a good thing). It's also very good that you are ER/PR positive

    My surgeon was great. She walked through the door and said: "You will be fine! This is just a minor inconvenience, a bump in the road". After spending an hour and a half answering every question I could think of she ended my visit by repeating: "You will be fine". I have clung to those words. You should too. Your diagnosis is very similar to mine and you will be fine!

    Take this time to read people's stories here. Make lists of questions. Take someone to your appointment to write down the answers to these questions and then move forward knowing you will be fine

  • klwils3
    klwils3 Member Posts: 5
    edited August 2016

    Thank you so much Luckynumber47 it helps so much to read others stories. It is very hard going through this. I am not sure what I want all I know is I want it gone!! I am 44 and have no family history of breast cancer. I will be seeing one of the top surgeons here at the Breast Care Center. I know I am in good hands! I have already thought about the anxiety medications. For now I am leaning on my husband (bless his heart) no matter what time I wake him up crying out in fear he is here. I also am just trying to stay focused on my normal daily life/job/mommy/Nana activities!

    Mu initial thought is cut them off!! I am ok being flat!! I don't like the thought of multiple surgeries to reconstruct but if that's how it has to be done I may consider it!! I have no use for breast ;) However I don't know how bad it is yet! I will take time to consider all of my options. I don't know if my lymph nodes are negative (I pray they are) I am sure that will be determined in my surgery. My guess is I will go in for lymph node resection and lumpectomy for further pathology? I am not sure if that is how it works though? I will do everything in my power to be fine!

    That quote from your doctor is comforting. The doctor I will be seeing lost his wife to breast cancer so he can also relate to what we are going through!

    My husband, children and mom will be with me at my appointment!

    Thanks for the tips about the questions. I never thought to write the answers down.

    Do you mind me asking what you did for yours?

    Thanks for all your help!! So much appreciated!

  • VLH
    VLH Member Posts: 1,258
    edited August 2016

    klwils3, I'm sorry that you find yourself here, but it's a great community. Was the initial information you received as a result of a core needle biopsy? Was an ultrasound done of your underarm? That may give your surgeon a preliminary idea whether the lymph nodes are involved although your surgeon will probably want to do what's called a sentinel node biopsy to check for any sneaky cancer cells.

    The positive estrogen and progesterone receptors mean you may benefit from hormone therapy. HER2 status helps determine whether two medications called targeted therapy might prove helpful. With your IHC report being equivocal, your pathologist may do a test called a FISH that takes a bit longer, but is considered more reliable. Your surgeon will have many answers, but you'll also want to see a Medical Oncologist. S/he may recommend some drug therapy before surgery, called neoadjuvant therapy. Every step of the way, feel free to ask the benefits & risks of recommended therapy. If your insurance allows, getting a 2nd opinion may make you feel better about your choices.

    I hope I haven't misspoken with any of this. It hasn't been that long since I was diagnosed and there's a lot to learn.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    I was diagnosed the day after you (Aug 9th) with IDC, because it's fairly aggressive/grew quickly (MRI detected it a week ago, last mammo was Sept- clear) and it's about 4.5 cm they're recommending chemo first. So I have my teaching appt next week and guess I'll be starting chemo the last week of Aug. So thrown by that a bit, but coming to terms with this long haul we are in for.

  • Luckynumber47
    Luckynumber47 Member Posts: 397
    edited August 2016

    Because of family commitments I had a 3 week gap between being diagnosed and having my biopsy. Talk about stress! Once I had the biopsy done it still took another 3 weeks before I had surgery. Most times these diagnosis aren't emergencies and my doctors were fine with the delays. Gave me plenty of time to read everything on these boards so I really felt like I knew what was going on.

    I had planned to do a lumpectomy with radiation but a presurgery MRI found a grade 3 DCIS hiding in the other breast so I did a BMX. I definitely did not want tissue expanders, and implants. Luckily I had very large breasts so the PS used my skin to make small little mounds. (Goldilocks reconstruction). I wouldn't call them breasts but I'm not flat. I've already accumulated a large selection of bras, camisoles, breast forms and prosthetics and have great fun deciding what breast size looks best with each outfit

    I count myself very lucky that I was able to avoid radiation and chemo. I take Femara and so far have no side effects.

  • Luckynumber47
    Luckynumber47 Member Posts: 397
    edited August 2016

    You asked about eating: Two years ago my DH and I started Paleo. Best thing I've ever done. I'm convinced sugar is evil and now that I've eliminated processed sugar I've stopped the constant craving (and lost 45 lbs). We eat lots of veggies, healthy fats, protein, and nuts. (And 1 square of extra dark chocolate every day. Life wouldn't be worth living without my chocolate). I'm never hungry and I feel like I am doing the best thing possible for my body. I take vit d, calcium, omega 3s and vit e to help keep my bones healthy

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited August 2016

    80% (may even be higher) of bc patients had no family history!

    Until you have met with your MO (medical oncologist), please, please stop taking those herbal supplements! Many of them have estrogenic effects which can cause an ER+ tumor to grow. (Ditto processed soy). And as for antioxidants, while reasonable amounts of foods containing them are fine, antioxidant supplements can keep radiation and chemo (and perhaps even anti-hormonal meds) from effectively killing tumor cells. Active adjuvant cancer treatment is the one time when you don’t want to mop up free radicals--cell destruction IS the goal! (Just as cytotoxic chemo drugs can’t tell the difference between fast-growing cells and thus can’t target just the cancer cells while leaving your hair follicles and stomach lining alone, antioxidants can’t just prevent your non-cancer cells from being damaged by free radicals). Once you do go on antihormonals, you’d be surprised how many herbal supplements, not just prescription drugs, can interfere with their effectiveness.

    But by all means, keep up the anti-anxiety drugs like Ativan, Xanax, etc. They’ll calm you down and help you focus (and process what your doctors are telling you), and stop that “rabbit” from racing around your brain chattering “what if? what if?” Trust me, I’ve been there and so have many if not most of us here.

    Start a looseleaf (ring binder or disks) notebook with pockets for all the handouts and documents you’re doubtless going to get (not to mention bills, insurance statements and receipts--very handy at tax time). At every visit, ask your doctor if it’s okay to record the conversation (use a voice recorder app on your phone) so you can play it back later if you’re unsure as to what instructions or results you were told.

    And stay away from Dr. Google. He’s an idiot--he has no filter to distinguish between real medical information and useless or harmful bulls..t.

  • Luckynumber47
    Luckynumber47 Member Posts: 397
    edited August 2016

    Hi Klwls3, I see your appointment with the surgeon is tomorrow. Are you ready with all your questions? I had my DH In the room with me to write down all the answers so I didn't have to take my attention away from the Dr.

    My appt lasted 1 1/2 so I had lots of time for questions. Hope your dr hasplanned the same for you.

    Good luck tomorrow

  • msphil
    msphil Member Posts: 1,536
    edited August 2016

    sweetie we know your feelings been there so take a breath get cry out and then i decided to Fight, once treatment plan in effect things will calm down 4 you get 2nd opinion also i got thru with my Faith n Hope. I am now a 22 yr Survivor PRAISE GOD msphil idc stage2 Lmast 0\3 nodes chemo and rads n 5 yrs on tamoxifen.

  • ColoGal
    ColoGal Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2016

    Hi! I was also just dx'd with grade 3, IDC - 5 days after you! Ah shit. This is my second time around this block. I WAS a 7 year "survivor". I hate that word. AS IF anyone actually "survives" cancer..lol. Yes, you are acting crazy and have every right to do so. Just don't get carried away with fear, because you are going to need to keep cool to be able to make some of the most important decisions of your life. Don't worry - worrying does not help. Pray, meditate, do whatever you can do to calm your mind, so that you can stay clear and focused. Had I known then what I know now, I would have had both of my breasts removed at the same time, not just my left breast. Had I just followed my gut instinct, I would have had a double mastectomy and I wouldn't be going through this again. The tumor that's in my body now is .9cm, grade 3, still don't[ know much about it waiting for the rest of the path report to come back next week. But what I DO know is regardless of stage, I will have my breast removed. It's a small tumor, the surgeon didn't want to do a mastectomy. But it's my body, my decision and I don't want a breast that's been exposed to cancer cells. No matter how small the tumor. Its' grade 3 - that little bugger is an overachiever and needs to DIE!

    Pls try to keep calm. This tumor has been in your body for a long time, waiting a few days, a few weeks for surgery is not the end of the world. Think about how fortunate you are to have caught it now, instead of later. Eat a healthy diet, take care of your body and pace yourself emotionally - this is a long race. For me - cancer was actually the easy part. I didn't have to do anything. I showed up at surgery, the surgeon did his job, I took Tamoxifen for 5 years, no biggie. Even the mastectomy was not a big deal - yes, it looks really weird in the shower, and there is a certain sadness with parting with a body part, but hey - it had cancer in it, all I wanted to do was take it off and cry over it later. know that this will all be over fairly quickly. There will be a surgery, followed by your choice of treatment that will be recommended based on type of cancer/path report that your cells expressed. Then, after that treatment is over, you might be taking something such as Tamoxifen. Depending on the type of surgery you chose to have, breast reconstruction is typically discussed prior to. So, take a long deep breath be kind to yourself. Everything will be revealed and before you know it, you'll be able to reclaim your life. Cancer is no longer a death sentence - this most likely wont kill you unless you have a bad surgeon or are deathly allergic to any of the meds. But most likely, none of those things will happen. I remember that fear, that anxiety. Very normal, very expected back then. And now? I went and had a margarita after I read my path report. My only reaction was "ah shit, I should have had both boobs removed". You're going to be fine. Breath, calm down and get as much info as possible. My prayers are with you and everybody who has to come to this site for support, sharing, venting, etc.

  • klwils3
    klwils3 Member Posts: 5
    edited August 2016

    First of all I would like to thank each of you for your kind words of advice!! It helps so much as I am sure you all know.

    I had my appointment this past Thursday with the surgeon. As soon as he walked in the room his statement was.........."I am confident you are 100% curable!" WOW what confidence!!! It gave me hope!!

    So.....I have Stage I IDC that is ER/PR positive and Her2 negative, low grade. It is multi focal so I will need a mastectomy (which I am ok with)! I don't know a surgery date yet. I have an MRI scheduled to make sure everything else is clear and to determine if I want to remove the left breast also (my husband and I feel yes, we do). Then I will meet with the plastic surgeon to discuss reconstruction the 29th, following that appointment my surgery will be scheduled! As long as my lymph nodes are negative (will know the day of surgery) I will not need chemotherapy or radiation. I will have to take tamoxifen but that's ok!! The doctor stated that he feels my lymph nodes will be clear because on my imaging they look "normal" but he wont know until they are in the OR (they test them right there)! He said the chances of me having cancer in the left is very slim, and chances for me getting it there are slimmer! I am not comfortable with that!! I work in a hospital that has one of the BEST cancer centers and I know all too well what cancer can do!! I feel blessed that its not worse.

    I also discussed with my doctor the supplements I am on and what I have been doing and he said it is all ok!! He even suggested a couple more!! I took Enbrel (an immune suppressant drug) for several years so I need all the boosting to my immunity I can get. Boosting your immunity is not only good for fighting cancer but healing and during chemotherapy. The ingredients of what I am taking is all natural things.

    Thank you all so much and may God bless us all with good health, Karen

    Smile

  • thisgirlisonfire
    thisgirlisonfire Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2016

    Hello klwils3. I hope you are doing a bit better. I was diagnosed a little earlier than you, on August 4th, 2016. These weeks have been a bit hectic regarding my regular schedule and friends and family wanting to know how I am doing, but I am still fine. I know they mean well but sometimes is a bit overwhelming. I am greatful for having landed with doctors in which I trust, and things running smoothly in that area. My guess is that in a week or two I will be starting chemo. However, everynight I can't help some tears

  • klwils3
    klwils3 Member Posts: 5
    edited August 2016

    Hi thisgirlisonfire I am doing ok! I know how you feel about being overwhelmed. It is very sweet, nice, kind and thoughtful of people and I know they mean well but to return all the calls, text, emails etc can get a little overwhelming. My daughter has taken over replying to some of them for me. She feels involved that way. My doctors are so wonderful. I am seeing one of the best known doctors here in Lexington. He is wonderful and can also relate to my family (especially my husband) He lost his wife to breast cancer. That is what made him determined to become the best there is!! I feel very comfortable with his recommendations. I haven't started any treatment yet. I will have my MRI this coming week then see the plastic surgeon to discuss my surgery Monday the 29th. Good luck with your chemo!! I will keep you in my prayers. WE CAN BEAT THIS!! Let me know how things go, I will be thinking of you! HUGS!!

    #fightlikeagirl

    Karen

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    Hi thisgirlisonfire, I was diagnosed on the 9th, starting chemo in two days. One of the many papers in my folder of cancer crap was a website called caringbridge.org That has been a great way to post an update, and has cut down on the calls/texts/etc. You invite your friends and family to view the site and they can comment and wish you well right on the website. I'm no longer a "Facebook person", so this has been an easy way to address everything. I'm also following another board under Chemo-before, during, and after. I've connected with women starting chemo in August, and it's been a great help to be with folks going through it at the same time and getting feedback, advice, etc with the process. Hang in there....

  • Positive2strong
    Positive2strong Member Posts: 316
    edited August 2016

    I have just been diagnosed today, August 23, 2016. I am trying to understand my pathology report. Tomorrow I have an appointment with the oncology doctor. My results from my core needle biopsy were sent to my internist. The report says I have invasive ducal carcinoma with mutinous features. Tumor grade moderately differentiated Nottingham MBR grade 2/3 score 6/9

    Neg for lymphatic / vascular invasion

    Neg for carcinoma situ

    Estrogen positive progesterone receptor negative

    I have a trip planned for Italy. I will be back Sept 14. Should I cancel my trip?

    So new to all of this and appreciate the support. I will be seeing Dr. Chang tomorrow in Beverly Hills med center

    Linda

  • Positive2strong
    Positive2strong Member Posts: 316
    edited August 2016

    are you in Southern California. I live in Los Angeles. Just learned today I have IdC

    Linda

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited August 2016

    Positive, take that trip!!!!!! It could take a couple of weeks to get your OncotypeDX score (not a given that you would need chemo--mucinous is not an aggressive form of breast cancer, so the mucinous features might mean your IDC is slower-growing than “Grade 2” would suggest--especially since you’re scoring 6 points, not 7). Get as many wonderful experiences in as you can, while you still feel well--those memories will sustain you if you have tough times ahead (which again, you might not). We just got back from our second trip to Italy--Rome & Tuscany--and IMHO, you can never have too much time in Italy. (And France used to be my comfort zone). Where are you going? In Dec., 2 wks after finishing radiation and before starting letrozole, we took a Mediterranean cruise: Rome, Naples, 2 ports in Sicily, Sardinia, Mallorca, Valencia and Barcelona (where we had go straight to the airport upon going ashore, so we’re going back this Dec.). And last month we spent 5 days in Rome, 3 in a villa in Tuscany, and another day-and-a-half in Rome. Still not enough time!

  • Positive2strong
    Positive2strong Member Posts: 316
    edited August 2016

    chi sandy,

    I am trying so hard to remain positive and your words were helpful. I really have no idea what my report means. Where are you in this journey. I just saw that there was an earthquake in Italy. We are leaving this Sunday. We will arrive in Rome and have a wedding near Amalfi Coast, then to Sicily. Then we are heading back north to Venice. I will be back Sept 14.

  • doxie
    doxie Member Posts: 1,455
    edited August 2016

    Go on your vacation and enjoy it. A little delay here and there is not a problem in most cases. And the BC journey is filled with delays. Yours at least will be under your control.

    Ask the MO about sending tissue out for the Oncotype Score. When you get back the results should arrive shortly. In the meantime, you'll be enjoying something rather than fretting.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    Oh my gosh Postive and ChiSandy- I've never wanted to travel before, and after going through taking care of my mom with dementia (and she never went anywhere)- Italy became the place I want to see! So would love to hear the info- so sad about the EQ there. Positive please go- I need the info :) I follow someone that posts all Italy pics on Instagram, I just haven't had time to really research the country but love what I see online.

    Positive I'm in Orange County! I was diagnosed wow a lifetime ago now- on the 9th! Had my first chemo treatment this am- and I'm doing fine. I'm so glad I met with the Dr's so quickly and they had a plan in place. My oncologist is actually affiliated with UCLA, it's called UCLA health. Dr. Tetef. The team of surgeons, radiation folks, oncologists meet weekly and go over all their cases, so more eyes are on you and your suggested treatment course which I love.

    I hope your oncologist cleared up your questions and concerns and went over the pathology report so you understood it. Keep us posted. I'm on another board more often here, under Chemo, Before During and After. Someone started one for women starting chemo in August (which was me), and it's been so helpful and great and everyone is supportive. I've learned great tips for side affects, and questions to ask the Dr.

    Feel free to message me directly here if you want! It's so scary I know, but we all will move forward- our hiccup in the road.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited August 2016

    Positive, Rome did feel some mild shaking but wasn’t near the epicenter (the countryside of its state, Lazio, felt it more, especially closer to the Apennines). The Amalfi Coast was much further south, as was Sicily. Not sure how you’re getting back up NE to Venice, but it was outside the quake area. Flights to Rome, Naples, Venice, Pisa and even Perugia (in the affected area) are back to normal.

  • FI123
    FI123 Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2016

    I got my results this morning. Invasive ductal carcinoma, grade 2/3 with focal lobular with Ductal carcinoma in situ Positive for Estrogen Neg for Her 2 Help! Any help or advise would be so helpful. I am going to Dana Faber in the morning to speak with the surgeon.

    Jill

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited August 2016

    Hi Jill-

    Welcome to BCO! We're sorry for what brings you here, but we're glad you've found us, and hope you find this to be an informative and supportive place. Good luck eith your appointment tomorrow; we would definitely suggest writing down any questions you have beforehand so you don't forget anything you want to ask, and take notes during your appointment. You'll be given a lot of information over the coming weeks, and it's easy to forget or overlook something.

    Please keep us posted on how it goes!

    The Mods

  • klwils3
    klwils3 Member Posts: 5
    edited September 2016

    Jill your diagnosis sounds very similar to mine. My Dr told me that I should only need surgery to remove my breast (I have two tumors) and on tamoxifen until my ovaries stop producing. I hope you are doing ok and your appointment went well. I have chose to go with bilateral mastectomy (even though its only on my right) with immediate reconstruction and the Tamoxifen after. I wont need chemo or radiation if it isn't in my lymph nodes (which my doctor feels it is not). I wont know till I have the surgery. Big hugs!! We can beat this, one day at a time!!!

    Karen

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited September 2016

    klwils3, it sounds like you have a good plan in place so far. Your surgeon should be setting up a meeting with a medical oncologist for you. This is the person, along with you, who will determine the need for chemo. He/she will order the Oncotype or Mammaprint test to determine the aggressiveness of the tumor. This is the standard of care in ER+, HER2- tumors. Your tumor seems to have all favorable characteristics to avoid chemo, but sometimes results can be surprising, and the medical oncologist will help determine that. Hopefully the surgeon explained that. Medical oncologists are the experts on chemo, tamoxifen, and such and surgeons are the experts on surgery. It looks like you have a really strong team in place. Best wishes for a successful surgery, with good news on the pathology, and a swift recovery

  • Positive2strong
    Positive2strong Member Posts: 316
    edited October 2016

    imageimagehi, maybe we can meet one day. I love taking about Italy. I had a wonderful time in Italy. I wish I could be there a month. Every city and village is a picture postcard.

    My surgery is this Monday Oct 10 my surgeon is Dr Kristi Funk

    She said I will have one small scar by the nipple and one underarm. She says I should be good in 3 days or so.

    At some point she said there is a possibility I would have 3.5 weeks of radiation maybe 6 weeks.

    I hope you are doing well.

    Positive Linda



  • Positive2strong
    Positive2strong Member Posts: 316
    edited October 2016

    good to hear from survivors

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