MRI - Panic attack ran out

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notsure
notsure Member Posts: 41
edited October 2016 in Breast Reconstruction

I had my reconstruction over 5 years ago. Doctor believes my implant in no longer in the pocket and causing me some issues. To confirm I need an MRI. I tried and freaked out the first time they put me in the machine. Tried a second time and complete panic attack. How did you do it? What other options are available?

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  • Wendiwithani
    Wendiwithani Member Posts: 108
    edited October 2016

    I am very claustrophobic, so I understand your anxiety. I had an MRI a few years ago and my doctor gave me some very strong Xanax....worked like a charm. I fell asleep the minute my head hit the pillow. Have they not offered anything to help you relax?

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited October 2016

    Is there a site with an open air MRI option? I had a a brain MRI a few years ago and that's what I did.

  • RebzAmy
    RebzAmy Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2016

    Me too - took diazepam (16mg) once and that helped but having a special CT scan tomorrow as I basically said I can't do an MRI even an open one. Apparently it's a special scan which you can have instead of an MRI - it's a brain scan with dye instead of having the MRI.

  • farmerlucy
    farmerlucy Member Posts: 3,985
    edited October 2016

    I was not prepared that first time either. Subsequently I have taken meds beforehand. I also go to my happy place mentally. Sometimes I go through a host of songs verse by verse in my head. Sorry you had so much trouble.


  • Jelson
    Jelson Member Posts: 1,535
    edited October 2016

    https://www.mycdi.com/knowledge_center/the_mri_experience/open_mri/ I just googled open MRI to get you an idea about what it is all about. This website finds ones in different zip codes.

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited October 2016

    My MRI technique--

    Take 2 mg lorazepam thirty minutes before the predicted time.

    Wear a lovely bean-filled (weighted) eye pillow, lightly scented with lavender. If I can't see the scanner walls, they're not threatening.

    Yoga breathing. Inhale 1-2-3-4, pause, exhale 1-2-3-4.

    Take myself mentally on a bicycle ride in the mountains. (Yours might be the beach, or getting a massage)

    Good luck!


  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited October 2016

    I've never experienced claustrophobia until my first MRI. My second time, I made sure to get a good look at the machine so I would not panic as much. I used the meditation techniques from my birthing class to help me stay calm. My happy place is Mauna Kea beach on the Big Island, so I spend time there when I'm getting an MRI. If I felt much worse, I would SO go for the drugs!! I'm wrecked for the rest of the day after an MRI. It's an ordeal. It's so nice to get a good report though!

  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited October 2016

    My first MRI was 30 years ago. My that tube was narrow and I had to go in head first. I did ok for the first scan, the machine made a loud rhythmic noise that kind of soothed me, but as soon as the noise stopped the panic set in and and I shot out the bottom like a cannonball. I thought, we'll at least it's over, but nooo, they wanted me back in the machine. They allowed my husband to come into the room and they opened a little window on the machine and I was able to see his face. They let him stand there till the scan was finished.

    For the open air mri, I couldn't stop shaking, anxiety I guess. Next mri, I want drugs.

  • chiefswife
    chiefswife Member Posts: 70
    edited October 2016

    My advice is to close your eyes and never, ever open them until they say " you're all done " That's how I got through it.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2016

    Chiefswife, me too. Hope to never have another one though.

  • Kcabrera
    Kcabrera Member Posts: 44
    edited October 2016

    I took Ativan and thy let me listen to my favorite music (Dave Matthews Band). It definitely helped.

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited October 2016

    I took Ativan and asked for a washcloth to cover my eyes. Yoga breathing helped. I totally understand the fear and won't even consider going through that without meds!

  • fleur-de-lis
    fleur-de-lis Member Posts: 107
    edited October 2016

    Is the MRI situation different for those who have breast implants ( either thru reconstruction or augmentation) versus those who get breast MRI's due to dense breasts, high risk, etc.?

    I have to get two breast MRI's a year....and they use a dedicated breast coil on the breast MRI....you are face down in the machine, and an area is open where your breast(s) literally "fall thru". First pictures are without contrast, then the contrast medium is administrated, and more pictures are taken. They can add compression to the breast to get a better picture of certain areas.

    Actually, there is no open air MRI for breast cancer screenings. Would be nice, but not available yet...🙄👀 Darn!

    Debiann....Wow....they must have really done things differently 30 yrs ago with the MRI....now, due to the magnets used during the procedure...no one else can be in the room for safety sake. You can have no metal in your body,either, for safety reasons.

    I have degenerative arthritis in my neck, L1-L4 area, and some degenerative issues in the sciatica region, so I use Valium to "hold still" for the test. Awhile back I tooka Xanax pre MRI, and I thought that I was doing fine...actually thought that I nodded off for a while....but I must have moved ever so slightly due to the neck, or back? issues.

    On the way home, I got a call from the radiologist, saying they had to re-do the test ( ugh!) because there was some slight movement!

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited October 2016

    I too close my eyes and don't open them until it's done. I also ask for the maximum amount of cool air, so it feels like I have a breeze blowing over me and it doesn't feel at all as through my body is enclosed in a tube. In fact I visualize myself lying on a beach chair with a cool ocean breeze blowing over me. My MRIs used to have me going in feet first but now they are head first (but still face down, thankfully). When the bed moves in, with my eyes closed I visualize it moving me all the way through the tube until my head is right at the opening at the other end. My last tactic is that I focus on the sounds. I count how many times each sound repeats, and I count the number of different sounds. I go I expecting 15 different sounds, which is the most I've ever had. Usually it's less so usually the MRI is over before I expect it to be. The most important thing for me is to occupy my mind so I don't for one second think about the fact that I'm in that tube.

  • notsure
    notsure Member Posts: 41
    edited October 2016

    Thanks everyone.....I was face down with my head at the top of the machine. The part I could not handle is face down, think of a massage table. Then they put a plastic piece touching your nose so it is not open to the ground. I literally felt like I would suffocate. I was prescribed Xanax, I may need it to sleep prior to the test. I have not slept since this happened. If only they would let me turn my head slightly. The tech had the fan on high, country music and I was breathing so heavy she said relax and that was it. I need to have my implant replaced and doctor is saying this is essential in determining the surgery. What if the Xanax does not help?

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited October 2016

    Notsure, the Xanax will help. Trust us.

    Don't you love it when a medical person says, "just relax?" YOU RELAX, YOU NUMPTY!

  • Luckynumber47
    Luckynumber47 Member Posts: 397
    edited October 2016

    Oh, notsure, I'm so sorry this happened to you. I've always thought I was a pretty tough cookie but that MRI scared me to death. My happy place was the beach and I mentally walked down every beach I'd ever been to. I barely made it through. Then theywanted me to have an MRI biopsy. Great! Scariest thing I've ever done and now we're adding needles. Luckily I found out I could ask for a Xanax right before they took me in so it was much easier to endure.

    It wasn't claustrophobia that got me, it was the sounds. For the second MRI I had ear plugs plus the hearing protection. That helped too. Our "seal-a-meal" makes similar sounds and I still can't be in the house when my DH is using it.

  • VLH
    VLH Member Posts: 1,258
    edited October 2016

    I'm extremely claustrophobic, especially after getting trapped in a bouncing elevator car not long after 9/11. A combination of an open MRI and the maximum allowed dose of an oral medication did the trick. Hmm, it was two mg, but I don't recall if it was Xanax or Ativan or ? The bad news is that you'll need a driver.

    Lyn

  • sandcastle
    sandcastle Member Posts: 587
    edited October 2016

    I, worried about the MRI a lot...but you did go in Feet First lying down....it turned out not to be too bad and they let my husband come in and be near my head....so it all worked out....Liz

  • fleur-de-lis
    fleur-de-lis Member Posts: 107
    edited October 2016

    you had an open MRI for screening to see if your implant is leaking or for a breast cancer screening?

    I ask because I could hold still for a open MRI without Valium or Xanax and then could drive myself. I have degenerative discs in my neck and lower back, and move slightly ( without even knowing it...but the tech notices when reviewing the slides...and I get called back in) I have an open MRI for a benign Pituitary tumor every few years, and have no call back issues due to movement, and it's a long, two part test.

    It someone is fibbing to me at my breastcenter...well, just grrrr!

  • VLH
    VLH Member Posts: 1,258
    edited October 2016

    My open MRI was for a hip pain issue so not breast cancer-related.

    Lyn

  • fleur-de-lis
    fleur-de-lis Member Posts: 107
    edited October 2016

    I actually called my BS for another reason today....and his office stated that, while all breast centers "do not" have a dedicated Breast MRI coil....most, if not all, are heading that way. So no open MRI's preferred for breast cancer prevention screenings in the near future, or so I was told.

    A standard MRI procedure can be used to check on breast implants, though. I am aware that some doctors do not prefer open MRI's unless you are claustrophobic, and the meds do not work for you.....I had to really push my Endocrinologist to order the open MRI for the brain imaging. She feels you get better views on the closed MRI.

  • VLH
    VLH Member Posts: 1,258
    edited October 2016

    My pain management specialist also mentioned that the quality of images from open MRIs is definitely inferior to the closed machines.

    Lyn

  • roofcat59
    roofcat59 Member Posts: 50
    edited October 2016

    Hello Notsure: lots of suggestions for you already - i'll just add my 2 cents. My husband had to get quarterly, then every 6 months, and now yearly MRIs for brain cancer follow-up. He has to lie face up in the tube with his head sort of strapped in and with a plexiglass box over his face - talk about feeling like suffocating - I'm sure he can totally empathize. He is a big guy and very claustrophobic. He takes 2 separate 1 mg Ativan (lorazepam tablets) about 1 hr prior to the procedure, which is always in 2 parts - once without contrast and then after contrast injection. Initially I would go in the room with him and hold his ankle just to reassure him with touch. Now having had them so frequently, the drugs work OK by themselves and I don't go in the room any longer.

    I am no stranger to MRI myself, including the face down one you had in a machine with a dedicated breast coil. I have had ones with my whole body in the tube with my face looking up at the inside - they are the worst for me. Ear plugs for the noise, rhythmic yogic breathing, and meditation on a "happy place" work the best for me.

    You might need something different than Xanax to really get you to relax. I would discuss with your doc before the next one for sure.

    All the best, roofcat (( ♥ ))

  • javamama
    javamama Member Posts: 119
    edited October 2016

    Bring headphones with music if they will let you. Aromatherapy applied under your nose. I kept my eyes closed the entire time I had my MRI and then again when they biopsied with MRI. If you can have someone else drive you and you can't get anti anxiety meds, do a shot or two before you go face down. I never thought of being in on a massage table although that is one way to get through it. I made myself think I was in a tanning bed or something similar. But then again, I can go into small spaces without claustrophobia. I do have a serious fear of heights, however. So I understand the anxiety.

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