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Hang in there SanFranKitty - symmetry or near symmetry is possible with the skills of a good surgeon and sufficient patience. I'm hoping you achieve yours soon!
I agree with you kingster. I used to travel for my company, have been inoculated for all the forms of Hep, so I test positive for the antigens...This has not limited my ability to donate. I will be asking my Dr about the tatoos and donating though. When done by a medical professional, we should expect and receive sterile conditions. I suspect we are clear to donate afterwards, but will verify before donating in the future.
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Hi Wildtulip the answer to your bra question varies depending on your circumstances, procedures, how your body heals, your PS and of course what works and is comfortable for you ultimately.
As for me I ended up with some extra work being done and will be wearing one 24/7 for awhile. Plus I don't have two implants I have one made from flap and one implant so I'll always wear a bra just like pre- MX . I am well balanced but with having natural tissue on one side I want to keep it that way.
I am sure there are others here who can give you other situations as well and share their experience
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wildtulip, my PS said wear a supportive bra for 6 weeks post exchange, then I'm free to go "free" for the rest of my life if I wish! (I've had BMX, with a plan for complete recon with anatomical silicon implants).
So I guess the recommendation depends on your surgeon and the techniques he/she uses.
BTW, I love my implants! They are comfortable, sit up perky, and look and feel darned natural. I'm looking forward to being bra-free for the remainder of my life! Hate those restrictive bands around my chest!
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Thanks LRGO
. I don't like the tight bands either.
WildTulip, I think each situation is different. When I went in for my two week appointment, the PA told me that the PS had said "she's going to need to wear a supportive bra like forever". I was like what do you mean "forever"! Then she said well at least for a few months. I have been wearing sports bras 24/7.
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PS, wildtulip and Sanfran, my PS has two PA's working for him. They each gave me opposite answers about bras... one said forever, 24/7. The other said 2 months, 24/7 except when taking a shower. So I Asked My surgeon, He Said 6 weeks 24/7. Then FREEDOM! I like his answer the best. But the variance in my team's individual recommendations is food for thought.
Do they really know if it makes a difference?
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Okay that is weird LRGO. Maybe they are giving you a standard answer that they give everyone? If so that's not very good individual care. But I think I'd go with what the surgeon said. He did the surgery after all.
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agreed Sanfran.
I've chosen his answer, he is the lead Dr In this team and a local top-notch board certified surgeon. Both PA'S have opinions but are not as trained or accredited to the same level as the PS. So I'm going with his answer. I intentionally asked each Dr this question independently to see how much their answers would vary. More than I expected!
In the end, I will listen to my surgeon, over his assistants!
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Thank you, ladies! So interesting!! I specifically remember when I interviewed my PS that he said when I'm all done I will not need a bra, which I'm very happy about. I went flat for a while after BMX, then prosthesis. Although I liked the shape of prosthesis, I didn't like going back to a bra after getting used to not wearing one. I have read on other threads that larger implants should be supported with a bra, but I'm not going very big. My PS has a great deal of experience and I completely trust him, but my concern is any potential complications that would change the long term bra need. I guess I'll just have to wait and see.
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Hi everyone I too have been hanging around reading everyone's posts. I will see a PS next month to set up for exchange. My first PS left for another position in another state pretty far away. She had told me I would never have to wear a bra again once I was done
I don't know what my knew PS will say. He is with the original group where my surgery was done and is supposed to be good.
I wonder if it makes a difference whether the implants are above or underneath the muscle. My TEs are under. Also I can't even wear a bra of any kind now because of excess tissue under my arms and deep dimples under there too. Looks a little like 4 boobs. Not comfortable at all!
I already feel and look at myself so much now I hope I don't get worse after exchange. Ha! Catch myself sometimes in public about to adjust or rub the area. I tell myself it's because they are uncomfortable but I think it may be because they still feel a little like they are someone else's. You know no feeling it the skin. I have noticed every since my April surgery I have felt like I already have a tight bra on.
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Hi Seedsally! Oh yes the numb feeling is weird. I am started to get some feeling back in certain areas, but I don't think all of mine will. My two front teeth are also numb from a surgery years ago, so I feel like a patchwork person. I'm sure you're foobs will look a lot better after your exchange! what type are you going with?
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San Fran I don't know for sure what type. I was originally told that 800cc Mentor rounds high profile was recommended. My TEs are 750ccs. I have no idea how much tissue was removed but I was a D and sometimes DD cup 36-38" band. I am tall and a little overweight so I didn't look that large. I'm thinking about silicone instead of saline for a more natural feel. I worry because I can feel ripples and dents where my skin is so thin. I hope the implants feel better.
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Jessie...yep. I get my seam ripper...make a small slice in the outer part...and just pull out the wire. I find that with the good quality bras, that there is plenty of support from just the "wire casing", that I can wear virtually all of my bras all day long (12 hour shifts), with my no more wire underwire bras, lol. I did that with a swimsuit as well. So much more comfortable;) Platex full coverage, maidenform comfort devotion and vs body by Victoria, Olga are my favorites. Also, cloud 9 warners is very soft. The inside material has to be soft and not itchy. We must be careful because of all the numbness post mx to prevent skin damage. Burlington, Gabriel bros, and vs are my favorite bra places. Soma is supposed to be good, but expensive...and I don't like spending a ton of $ on bras.
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Seedsally, my TE's produced a tight feeling too. I had deep creases and dents, and the shape of the expanders was too round and way too out-like half grapefruits under my thin skin. I exchanged for anatomical silicone. Went from 450 TE to a 495 implant. The doc fat grafted and filled the deep dents. The size and shape are perfect now after the swelling went down. The comfort is amazing. I don't even notice them any more.
My deepest dents will need a second round of grafting. Not enough of the fat survived this first graft. Good news is I have plenty to donate for round two, or three, or four.... whatever it takes.
I actually think th lyposuction was more painful than the exchange. Feels like a BAD sunburn....
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For me lipo hurt more than the exchange too. In fact I still have sore areas on my abdomen, and have not been able to wear jeans yet. I went with round saline, which I think I already mentioned. I like the shape a lot. I do have a slope at the top like a normal breast and actually they are kind of soft. They don't feel or look like TEs. But I have this weird feeling my fat took more on one side. I know that they put 360 on one side and 370 the other. But the outer area of the right foob looks fuller on the side than the other. At first I thought it was swelling, but now I wonder. Maybe I need another fat graft, but at 5'6 and 116lbs it might be tough to find. Bring on the Ben and Jerry's I guess!
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hi SanFranKitty,
It sounds like overall you had good results with your exchange. I know my ps said that they would do the fat grafts or revisions until I was satisfied. How long has it been since the exchange? How did you come to the decision to go with saline. That was my first inclination to go with but I was told there could be a lot of rippling. I didn't even mind the little rippling I had with the tissue expander. At least they projected and looked in proportion to my body and even looks quite natural. I am so overwhelmed, impatient but I just am perplexed when I read on the reconstruction thread that what implants my ps picked for me. Others complained about the naturelle 410 style being so flat and no projection and was probably not a good fit for a thinner body frame as mine. I wanted a round look but natural. Thanks for your support. It is so appreciated.
Remi50
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Hi Remi50,
I thought I'd share my current experience with the 410 natrelle. I'm also very, very thin and small on top (this being one of many factors leading to the implants I have) and she said rounds would simply look artificial on me (more than one reason for this, too). I have the LX410 290 extra full projection which are not very big by any stretch of imagination. I had my surgery 1 1/2 weeks ago. My PS warned me that I might feel smaller when I first looked down as these implants are less full on top, while my round TEs were more evenly full top to bottom.
Anyway, my first look down I was surprised to have the opposite reaction than she thought I'd have. I thought I looked bigger and these guys seem to project more than my TEs did. To be honest, I'd be surprised to have felt differently. These implants are competing with nothing to project off the flat surface of my chest. She padded around the top with fat and I can't say for sure how much that is adding to the look.
One additional note; she showed me the options prior to surgery - round saline and the silicone anatomical. Her main point in that was to talk about rippling and that there would be less with the silicone. My implants are above the muscle so rippling is a greater risk, I think, for me with only my skin covering it.
I'm wearing a 32D currently, but I don't think that's correct. I just tried to get something with the underwire (needed for my healing period) not sitting on the implants. My best guess is I'm a 30D (although my daughter's 30D didn't fit correctly but think that's a strap issue - she has broader shoulders than me). I tried on several 32B, C sizes and I filled out the cup in the C and B without gaps in the cup - just the underwire wasn't correct.
I have not looked at many pics online and I'm not sure I'm comfortable sharing mine, but I'd be surprised if anyone would be able to easily guess these are anatomical vs. round. I keep feeling them and they feel full and pretty roundish to me. I know a picture would be most helpful, but maybe my description helps a tad.
Ok, I'm editing this to add that I just stared at them for quite a while and from the side I can see the slope of the anatomical design. It's just pretty slight and gradual and that may again be due to the smallish size.
It's kind of confusing, isn't it? Best wishes as you make your final decision!
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Remi, I sent you some pics. You can see that they don't look like two coconuts on my chest. I don't have a lot to compare them to of course. Like most of you, I don't have any friends who have gone through this type of thing, and it is different from breast augmentation.
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I actually have some rippling on the outer part on one side. That is the side where I don't think the fat took
. I am going to discuss it with my PS when I see him next. No rippling on the cleavage area. Thank goodness! I went with smooth round saline because I'm a worrier and have fatigue issues. I knew I would always be stressing out if I had silicone, and blaming the silicone for health stuff. PS said it was no problem and they didn't want me to have to worry about it all the time either. Also I'm kind of obsessive about my cosmetics and food being free of this, that and the other. So it's just easier for me this way. I did kind of worry about what they would look like. But they turned out to look fine. Luckily these days we do have choices, and I think there is something for everyone.
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Hello all....scheduled to have latisse dorsi flap surgery on Oct 3. I see my plastic surgeon on Tuesday. He is not sure at this time if he will put in another tissue expander, or if he will be able to put in implants. Have others who have had this surgery had hospital stats, or is this outpatient. The Dr. Said I would be in 2 days, my my insurance company says it can be done outpatient. I was looking for others and their experiences....
thanks
gabby
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Hi Gabby, I had LD flap with TE placement this summer. I stayed two night in the hospital. The LD flap surgery is pretty major and I would expect to stay at least one night.
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hi Jessie Jake ,
Will respond later.. So tired.. Thank you!!
Remi50
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hi Jessie Jake,
Thanks for sharing so much with me. That's ok if you don't feel comfortable with showing me pics. Your description was quite good. My ps basically said the same thing as yours. She is highly recognized and I wanted to trust her judgement. However, mine are under the muscle so I may not get the projection you experienced going over the muscle. She felt I may be disappointed with the size after exchange. She felt she would only be able to put in 360cc. My skin just could not stretch anymore. This is so anxiety provoking. I research so much about all aspects of my treatment. I even started to work with Whippitmom for sizing etc.. But then the ps and pa said that she would be trying different sizes shapes when I was in surgery and she would pick what she thought would work best on me. I felt that I would leave it in her hands and pray for a good outcome. So far that isn't happening. I am looking for encouragement from my bc sister's along with anyone who may have close to the same style and size implants and what their final outcome was. I appreciate everyone sharing their info with me. Naturelle 360 cc , 410FX anatomical silicone under muscle.
Also good luck to all you other bc sister's that are experiencing different issues that I don't have the experienced myself. You woman are phenomenal with your outreach and support that are passed around these threads. I hope I can help others after this next phase passes. For now.. I'm still hanging on that ledge.
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hi jessiejake,
Didn't mean to make it all about me. I am so grateful you shared with me what size and style implant you just had put in and the reasons your ps felt that would be a good choice for you. It sounds like you will be very happy with the overall results!! I will continued to try to remember what you have told me when I start to get anxious about my exchange. I will continue to keep you posted. 💕
Remi50
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Hello Remi50, I have 475 Natrelle 410 FF annatomicals under muscle. I am 18 months post EX. I am very happy with my results. I haven't had any problems with my implants. Yes, trust your PS. I had the choice but like you, I didn't want to look unnatural and wanted the best outcome possible. PM me if you want. I am willing to send pictures if you would like.
Robin
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Hi Remi, no worries - You can be all about you right now! I totally get it. It is very confusing and anxiety provoking (as I think you said exactly!). I didn't even know I was worried until about a week before exchange surgery - Way more worried than before BMX which seems a little backwards, doesn't it? I also had a limit on the skin stretching which left me at my smallish size. It was kind of fun during the expansion process to watch my chest grow and I started getting a little greedy. It is probably for the best that my skin put a limit on the expansion. LOL, I may have ended up a little tipsy top heavy on my frame!
At the end of the day, it's all so individual as our body shapes are all so unique. Robinblessed, that is so nice of you to offer your pics! I bet that will help you a lot, Remi, since hers are under the muscle.
Sometimes I find when my expectations have been set low I end up more pleased with the final result. Maybe you will be fortunate in that way with this! It's great you are having open communication with your PS. That will help to make sure you are both on the same page.
Good luck and best wishes for perkiness!
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hi robinblessed54,
I am new to this thread as I just had my exchange surgery 9/15/16..last Thursday. I have been conversing with jessiejake and SanFranKitty that have been a savings grace. I had an exchange to 410 FX( high profile & high projection) silicone anatomical implant .. 360cc's. With fat injection at time of exchange. I was so disappointed when I woke up because I did not have any where close to the projection I had with the tissue expanders. Looking down in the compression bra they look flat like pancakes. Can you give me any insight how your implant exchange looked with having the same style implants that my ps chose for me.
Thanks,
Remi50
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hello again to all that are helping and supporting me on this thread.
Robinblessed54... You beat me to the thread. I am still on all the pain meds and not myself with thinking what I have read and posted.. I keep having to review the posts to keep it all straight so forgive me if I seem confused.. You have 475cc's if I remember or close.. So I'm at 360cc's otherwise the same implant. Did you notice a big difference between the new implants and the TE's with upper pole project or just overall what difference or similarities stood out to you? I was greedy too with liking how the te was expanding just like jessiejake.. (Lol)... Then to wake up with such a flat looking chest and not feeling feminine at all has me devastated and not feeling so good. It's sounds awful that I should just be grateful that I have something. But to have a taste of perkiness and the te size complimented my shape .. Basically just gave me fullness and I looked balanced.. I hope I see an improvement and I become pleasantly surprised. I know you all feel like me in the sense of researching and finally climbing to the next phase and the constant decisions that have to be made. Undoubtably an overwhelming situation for us all . It so nice to have all of you to turn to. Thank you all for being so kind and compassionate.
Remi50
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Hi Remi, I bet the effects of the anesthesia are also making concentration difficult. That combined with the pain meds. The first few days after my exchange are a bit of a blur for me.
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no doubt... I think that with this whole bc diagnosis it always seems to leave you second guessing something. I will let you know how my follow up visit goes on Wednesday . Again, I thank you all for your support and will try to nap for awhile!!! Feeling grateful..
Remi50
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Hi Gabby56b,
I had LD flap with TE's in April after a BMX last September. Mine was done outpatient and I had no problems. My DH was home with me the day after but I didn't really need him. Most of my pain came from the TE fill at the time of surgery more than the incision on my back. I am scheduled for my exchange on the 27th and looking forward to it. I hope this helps if you are forced by your insurance for outpatient surgery.
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