It's surprising how many people don't notice that you're flat.

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ravzari
ravzari Member Posts: 277

I say that in a good way; I don't mind being flat, and I actually prefer it greatly to the DD chest I had before. I always thought they were fairly prominent and obvious being that size. My day to day clothes are generally just relatively fitted t-shirts or a tank top, so no layering or masking anything before or after breasts for me.

Prior to my BMX, I used to wear some pretty heavy duty push up bras as they were the only things that really gave enough support for my shoulders, so they appeared to the outside world to be even bigger than a DD. TL;DR: They were pretty dang obvious.


Earlier today, I was chatting with a co-worker that I usually speak with at least for a few minutes every day, we regularly interact and he sees me face to face on a daily basis; got asked how recovery was going, I said it was fine though I'm getting tired of the compression binder (my left side still swells up a bit without compression after a few hours, so I'm still mostly wearing it) and am kind of tired with not being able to lift many things.

He asked if I minded if he asked what I had done, as he only knew I'd had surgery, but not the reason; I must have given him a completely dumbfounded look.

"What's the look for? Was that a stupid question?"

"C'mon, *name*...seriously?"

"...you don't have to tell me what you had done if you don't want to!" He thought I was angry at him.

"How did you not notice that I'm completely flat chested?"

He looked down at my t-shirt, blinked a few times, then kind of did a sudden startled double take.

"Man, they were out to HERE before! How did you not notice that change?" as I demonstrated how far they stuck out prior by pulling the front of my t-shirt foward.

"I probably wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out!"


I've had similar, "You had what done? OH! OH! You ARE flat chested!" reactions from a lot of the women too, it just seems nobody really pays that much attention to whether or not someone else has breasts. Makes sense, as I don't often stare at peoples' chests when I talk to them.


One of those 'nobody really notices it as much as you do' things I guess.


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  • Wicked
    Wicked Member Posts: 141
    edited August 2016

    There's a lady (Sandy) at my pool who is flat. She always dresses in the shower, so none of us ever knew. I had a huge hematoma after one of my biopsies, and my breast looked like I had been in a car accident. Everyone was looking at me, so I explained what was going on. Sandy said she had had breast cancer twice and a BMX. I never noticed! None of us did! And we saw her in a swimsuit and everything. One lady said to her, "I just thought you were flat (meaning small), like me!" Now, I'm staring a BMX in the face and I think I will also go flat.

  • floaton
    floaton Member Posts: 181
    edited August 2016

    I really was so very concerned about this at first. But with time, necessity (I have truncal le and right now it's easier to control with no prosthesis) and realizing no one else really cares I've been going half flat for months now. I even had someone at my cancer rehab program last year ask me (completely seriously) what kind of cancer I had. I was so surprised becauseI figured everyone there knew and was so self conscious they'd all noticed I was lopsided. Turns out they were just focusing on ther exercises :)!

  • CrawfordsMommy
    CrawfordsMommy Member Posts: 68
    edited August 2016

    Nobody in the world notices or cares that I'm completely flat. They probably just assume it's because I'm skinny.

    If they notice, they don't say anything. I mean, who would, really?

    My husband doesn't care that I'm flat although we haven't worked out that whole sex thing yet.

    At the gym, when I'm able to go, I use the "Gender Nonspecific" locker room to change in because it's private. I'm not yet ready to change in front of people with my big flappy mastectomy scars (which need a trim, later) and my chemo port sticking out.

  • Jacklin
    Jacklin Member Posts: 162
    edited August 2016

    I have found exactly the same thing - it's really me who's self-conscious about me being flat-chested. I also had a conversation with several co-workers and they didn't notice.

    I've recently sewed myself a pair of micro-bead prostheses and they've been wonderful, no pain in my shoulders and they stay in place with the right shelf bra from Amoena. Now I can choose whether or not to wear them and I love having this option. Sometimes it's really nice to just put on a T-shirt instead of putting on a bra first.

    It's really about how I feel about myself.

  • ravzari
    ravzari Member Posts: 277
    edited August 2016

    Yep, that was exactly it; I wouldn't say I was personally self conscious as I was never enamored with them to start with (they were a source of chronic pain due to fibrous/dense/cyst-y tissue), but I have to admit I was surprised at exactly how few people noticed anything unless I specifically pointed it out.

    It makes sense, really, as most people don't stare at someone's chest while talking to them and, to some degree, there's kind of a social 'imprint' that tells us, "That is a woman, she has breasts" and we kind of automatically assume they're there--and if they're not 'obvious' the default assumption is usually 'she has small breasts'--without bothering to look (which would be creepy anyway!) since most people are just used to even the idea of them being there.


    Shirts in general are fun, because I'm not that far out from my BMX, my brain still has this, "Hey--hey, you're forgetting something, guess what it is?" thing going on after I leave the house.

    "I don't need a bra anymore, brain, settle down."

    "Okay, understood, got it...but...you totally still forgot to put a bra on."

    I'm loving the shoulder freedom, and it's been interesting feeling different shirt textures on my chest as the feeling comes back to it. It's also nice not to have bra imprints on my ribcage at the end of the day. :)

    For the first week I didn't have to wear the binder, I had this, "Oh--but what if people notice I have NIPPLES?" thing going until I looked around the office and realized that on every single guy who wasn't wearing an undershirt, you could see the outline of his nipples in a t-shirt and nobody was fussed by it, so no need for me to be fussed by mine!

  • magiclight
    magiclight Member Posts: 8,690
    edited August 2016

    I wish I could say the same about my not noticing. I do notice. It is not the flat chest that concerns me body image wise, but the fact that now I'm pear shaped. Prior to my BMX I had a relatively flat stomach, but now it seems all my fat cells have descended to my lower abdomen and I cannot tighten my stomach muscles because that pulls on my already iron bra feeling throughout my chest. Wishing I were brave enough for a tummy tuck, but one major surgery has put me off any optional surgery. Oh well, I guess I'll just add more scarfs to my ever widening collection and now that one drawer is full of scarfs will sort out other stuff and move on to drawer #2. My collection of tunics from various online retailers likewise grows each month and that is not a bad thing as I love online shopping!SillyHeart

  • ravzari
    ravzari Member Posts: 277
    edited August 2016

    I turned into a pear too! I mean, I had wide hips and a narrowish waist before, but it wasn't that obvious because the breasts balanced it out and made me look more hourglass.

    To be perfectly honest, I knew I was a little overweight (and had a little gut). I didn't think it'd be that drastic, as I'd worn chest binders before for doing cardio and was already semi-used to how I looked with a very nearly flat chest, but man--I underestimated how different surgically flat vs. binder flat was!

    There are a few shirts I've put in the, "Not until I drop about 20lb" pile because of how very obviously pear shaped they make me--and how much they emphasize that gut that was not as small as I thought it was! Looks kind of like I have a beer gut going on. :D

    I know I'll never have a flat stomach or no saddlebags from experience; at one point about 10 years ago I got really into going to the gym and dropped down to a size 0-2 but still had (to me) a pretty noticeable lower belly pouch and saddlebags; lipo is probably all that would get rid of them but, eh, not really that much of a problem for me and after seeing how lipo is done and reading up on the possible complications even when it's a very skilled doctor doing it of it the risk outweighs the benefit for me.

    Thankfully, most of my wardrobe is either mens button down shirts or mens t-shirts as I have wide shoulders (size 40 with a mens jacket) and that + the DD breasts made most womens shirts just straight up not fit me right. If they fit my waist, they didn't fit over my chest or shoulders, and if they fit my chest and shoulders it usually meant I had to go into plus sizes or a good 8+ sizes up from the rest of me so I ended up looking boxy or like I was wearing a maternity shirt, so I just switched out to wearing mens shirts.

    Since I tend to wear a lot of leggings or yoga pants, most of those shirts are also oversized which helps disguise the belly a bit too.


    I haven't yet tried on any of the old womens t-shirts I have, they're mostly in that 'babydoll' style and looked pretty good with the breasts to balance everything out; my guess is I'll have that look that makes people ask, "When's the baby due?" if I wear them now though. ;)

    I didn't wear them often to begin with, but I'm starting to get kind of curious as to how they look on me now; might have to take a trip away from the laptop to put a couple on and see.


    Edit: Tried one of them on; it doesn't look half bad. I did notice that, when wearing that style, I no longer stand leaning out to get more 'projection' from my chest though. :D

  • littleblueflowers
    littleblueflowers Member Posts: 2,000
    edited August 2016

    It is weird! Even health care professionals don't notice, and I do nothing to hide my flatness.

  • ravzari
    ravzari Member Posts: 277
    edited August 2016

    It got even funnier today!

    I had a lash lift and tint done today because, well, why not?
    I rarely wear makeup, but I always liked the look of mascara as my natural lashes are very pale and straight.

    While the procedure was being done the lady doing them and I were chatting back and forth, talking about family, her kids and my pets (as I don't have kids), general life overall and I mentioned that I had surgery done back in June; she asked what I'd had done, which initially surprised me as:

    A) I was laying flat on my back on a table with...

    B) ...a fitted tank top on.

    So, in my mind, it should have been super obvious that I was flat as a board in a way that wasn't just, "really tiny AA cups".

    "I had a double mastectomy for cancer prevention; I'm high risk and it runs in my family, so I thought it best to just have them removed before they could try to kill me."

    She got quiet, and I figured it was more because that probably wasn't what she was expecting to hear (eyes were closed, I couldn't see her), then I hear, "Oh my god! You're TOTALLY FLAT! I can't believe I didn't notice that before! Do you mind if I ask how big you were before?"

    "I was a DD before."

    "Oh wow, that must have been a huge change! I bet your shoulders and neck hurt a lot less though, mine grew to a triple D after I had my son and I have grooves in my shoulders all the time from my bras, it's awful and I'm considering a reduction."

    Then it turned into a discussion about what the surgery was like, how healing had gone, if I liked being flat (oh man, the answer to that was a big yes for me, after having the big ones prior), and overall just a nice conversation; nothing she asked was rude or prying, she was just curious about the whole procedure as she'd never met someone who'd had their breasts removed before.

  • kle
    kle Member Posts: 317
    edited September 2016

    Today is day 9 for me of flatness. I just had a left MX, and my silicone right implant from MX ( 8 years ago) removed. I'm not really out in the real world yet, but so far not interested in anything but a bit of the optical illusion the gathering or folds a neckline gives you. I've been shopping a bit, and will be interested if this illusion I see in the mirror, is what others see. We shall see how this goes!

    Kl

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