Anyone Starting Chemo in June 2016
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Awe thanks Knardo. I am not sure of the chemo meds just yet. I am guessing it will be AC for 4 infusions over 2 months then Taxol weekly for 12 weeks. That seems like the standard. I will find out Monday when I go in to MO to find out the plan. No matter what the plan is, or length of time, the fact that I have to have this at all is terrifying. And my hair--NOT my hair!!!
So a question about your side effects. You mentioned taking a week off after AC treatment. Did you find you needed that whole time to recover? That's a scary thought for me. Treatment will be on Friday and I have help at my job on Monday, but the rest of the week I am on my own. Just not sure how to cope with this! Sorry to sound like I am whining, but I really feel like I am being sent to the torture chamber. Really!
Just looked back on this board and saw your recent photo. Congratulations on finishing chemo! And you are beautiful by the way and I love your hair style. It's very similar to mine. I have a wig lined up that looks very very similar to my real hair, just a lighter shade of brown.
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I just thought of a question for all of you experienced ladies. Do you get a break after AC infusions before starting Taxol. Or is it finish one one week and start the other the next. I just want to get through this as fast as possible!!!! It's already torture and I haven't even started yet!
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seq24: we are all glad, I am sure to share with you, and tell you that no matter how crazy it seems now (and the crazyness is still there, you just get used to it.) I remember it being the hardest at first when I was waiting for surgery and not knowing what kind of chemo was coming, how long it would last, etc. Your ER+/PR+ status makes a difference, there are hormone linked treatments you are eliglible for, but others you can't get with your HR2- status. Did you get your genetic testing done yet? That often makes a difference in treatment for er+/Pr+ status patients too. If you are getting taxol, you will most likely get benedryl as a premed before taxol infusion, and if you do, then you CAN'T drive yourself home. Some folks have mentioned that they negotiated to get another kind of antihistamine that allowed them to drive, you might talk to your oncologist about that when you see him. I personally didn't see an oncologist until after surgery. I had my surgery before chemo, a lot of people have the chemo first to try to shrink the tumor. Your Stage 2A like me, so that's probably why you had surgery first too.
Take deep breaths, you can do this!! Your most important thing right now is taking care of YOU, and getting through this process so the cancer NEVER COMES BACK. Chemo and rads are for making you stronger and killing all the cancer seeds that may be lurking anywhere since there's evidence of it in your lymphatic system. To prep for chemo, go on the chemo discussion board and look for tips for surviving chemo. There is a ton of good info there. Losing hair SUCKS, there is no going around it, but 1) its easier to not be attached to your hair when its fallling out in huge spidery, hand-sized chunks, and 2) you can grow back hair but not a liver or a brain. This too shall pass, we are all in this together, I am so sorry you are here with us, but we can all help each other get thru.
I would suggest strongly you join the "starting chemo is September" discussion board to hang with other folks going thru it @the same time. It helps a LOT, although we are glad to encourage you too!! blessings, A
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I did taxol first, just did my first infusion of A/C but got an extra week after the last taxol cause I got sick. I think it just depends on you. Another benefit of being on disability for me was not being at a germ-filled laboratory where my compromized immune system had more chances to get sick.. I actually stayed really healthy during the 3 months of taxol, just got bronchitis at the end. I had taxol first because City of Hope new protacol has taxol first for triple negative as its more susceptable to taxol than A/C.
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Thanks labscientistmom--I actually joined the September board too, but thought I would check this one out too so I know what you all are experiencing up to this point. I am the type of person who always has to know what, when, where and how something is going to happen so I can prepare. Thank you for your encouragement and support. I've experienced every possible emotion in the last month and a half since this started as I am sure you can relate to. Well, every emotion except being happy. I have actually had people say to be "you should be really happy about this. It could be worse". My feeling is that it's bad enough and couldn't get worse because I am the one that is having to go through it. I will find out my final treatment plan on Monday with the oncologist. I pretty much already know it's AC/Taxol because she mentioned it in my very first visit. She told me there was a type of chemo medication that does not make your hair fall out but that it's also not as effective. Not even sure if that would be considered an option at this point. I want this OUT of me and dont ever, ever want to go through this again. Once has been torture enough. Surgery was very easy (I was driving in 36 hours and back to work in 72 hours) but what lies ahead is sure to be the worst
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Hi Seq,
We are all on this board and nearly all finishing up our chemo regimens, although many others still have months to go on Herceptin.
I seem to be a similar case to you going by what you have added to your profile. You are Stage 2, grade 2, small lump and most likely had a lumpectomy - yes? First of all you need to know that you will get through this.
You are an early stage cancer and it has been caught quickly and your surgeon has already cut that cancer out. You are now getting chemo as a reassurance. It is 'belts and braces' approach. They are making sure no wee blighters have gone anywhere else and if they do then they are kicked off by chemo.
Now let's get onto that chemo now...It is not what you think it is going to be. It is not the samae image you will have in your had of films showing chemo patients in the 80s with their heads stuck down toilets for weeks on end. You might feel sickly on day one but you will be given lots of meds to make sure you are OK and then after about day 4 or 5 you should be good to resume normal activities...well maybe not climbing mountains, but certainly doing the shopping and going out to lunch with friends.
I have a story I wrote for a newspaper recently, that you might like to read. It is meant to be positive piece and explains what we all go through. I tried to make the point that chemo and breast cancer are totally doable in this day and age and you do not ever give in to it. YOU WILL GET THROUGH THIS. I can send on the link if you'd like to read it?
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/opinion...
DD
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seq24 welcome to the board! I would suggest reading the June Chemo from page one, it will give you a really good idea of what to expect with chemo.
I was given the option on AC or TC. I chose TC because of the possible heart issues with AC. I'm 46 and have a lot of life to live so I didn't want to add congestive heart failure to my fears in the future. But what you WILL find is that everyone here has made it through and like Dolly said, chemo isn't the 80s throwing up version any more. I worked full time through my entire treatment but also had the ability to work from home on days that I just couldn't do it. You'll have no problem working the day of chemo if you aren't too bothered by the steroids or antinausea drugs (some can make you drowsy). Most side effects begin day 3 (with chemo day being day one).
Just read through starting with page one and if you have any questions after that let us know!! I think most of them will be answered by reading all of our posts 😊
Much love to you!!
-Keely
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Anyone seen/heard from Lj2016??
-Keely
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Is LJ not on the facebook site? I get so mixed up with names now on here and other site.
D
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Yeah LJ is defo active on FB
D
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Thank you everyone. I knew this would be the place to come after most of you have gone through the process already. I'm also part of the board of newbies starting in September. Dolly, I will read your article now and the rest of the board tonight or tomorrow. Thank you all! This is just very scary for me! Maybe I'm being a big baby (as someone on another site already told me and to just "shut up and quit whining"), but I really am finding I am a much weaker person than I ever thought. Thank you all!
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Seq
Of course you are frightened but know this, you will have the most amazing doctors and nurses looking after you every step of the way. My lovely nurse even called a taxi for me on Friday after treatment...they do absolutely everything to take care of you.
You WILL manage this. As I said at bottom of paper, cancer and chemo are doable these days. You will do this and do it well. Even the ladies on here have had the most beautiful wigs and looked absolutely gorgeous in them.
Think Clark-blue is right and read through this like a book from page 1, you will learn so much.
DD
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seq, you are wrong....you are a much STRONGER person than you ever thought. We have all found that out about ourselves! You can do this
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Seq- You are not alone here! I joined in a bit behind. Looks like I may possibly have the same treatment plan as yours? Lumpectomy first? Just finished AC. Starting 12 weeks of taxol September 12. I will have radiation after. Everything as you say is what I called a scary giant whirlwind! But really these ladies experiences are so supportive, real, and helpful they are incredible. The one thing I can say for now is they are right it is not the 80's constant sickness. I did not drive to and from AC chemo but I could have. I was usually amped up from intravenous steroids for first 3 days. Then a tired day or 2. I think Keely said it. Read back on some posts and you'll gain much.
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I was told recently by my doctor that I could NOT drive myself to infusions
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Seq- Do not let anyone tell you to stop whining - you whine if you have to, cry if you feel the need and even get angry once in a while - then let it all go. We all do it and it helps us manage what we are dealing with.We are all frightened of what could happen, but we try to not focus on that - focus on the good and positives in your life.
you are a strong person, no matter what! You will find out how strong you are during your treatment. You will have ups and downs, just like all of us do. You will overcome them and move to the next step, closer to being cancer free. Cancer is an experience we have to live through, we do not want to make it who we are.
The information from this thread is amazing and the women here are strong and supportive. I am blessed to be here with them, all heading to the same finish line of cancer free! I am glad you found our group and expect you will find the support you need. I whine all the time still, but allow myself only 10 minutes tops, then I have to let that feeling go and focus on the good things and there are a lot of them!
I have posted this pic before, but here it is again, it makes me smile.
May everyone have an uplifting day with no SEs.

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Since joining the fb group I think I kind of forgot all about these boards...maybe chemo brain is in full force! Lol. I go for my last AC this Tuesday coming up & then in 3 weeks start 12 weekly treatments of Taxol....my last Taxol will be Dec 6...the day after my husband & I's wedding anniversary. It's so crazy to sit & think that all of this started for me 3 months ago...in 3 months I have conquered so many things & fears...mammogram, ultrasound, biopsy, diagnosis, test after test, scan after scan, surgery with reconsteuction, tissue expanders that feel like i have an iron chastity belt across my chest sometimes, chemo & the silly things that come with it, hair loss, returning to work, the death of our 12 year old beagle, historical flooding in our community, going out in public with nothing on my head!
I am told that the AC chemo is more harsh than Taxol & that makes me happy, however my MO hasn't said anything about benadryl before or during Taxol, is that common protocol? I usually have someone accompany me to my treatments but alot of times it is my 16 year old son because he likes to drive & he is back in school now. I was hoping that I could do my Taxol & return to work the next day since it is weekly. When I do my AC infusions I work Monday & have infusion Tuesday & take the rest of the week off mostly due to the steroids, I have steroids in infusion & then take 1 a day for 3 days & 1/2 a pill for the last 2 days, totalling 5 days of steroids & they kind of make me loopy & scatter brained. Are steroids part of the protocol for Taxol too?
A few of yall recommended L-glutamine while doing Taxol which I plan to take, I discussed it with my MO & he recommended B-complex & Omega 3 also. He said the all help with circulation & nerves & that his recommendation are usually those 2 & if I would like to add L-glutamine I can. So it looks like I am going to be taking all 3!
I hope everyone is doing well! I see some new names & wanted to say hello! I'm sorry I haven't been around much, I will try to be better! I find that face book is so much easier & I'm always on there keeping up with family from out of state & such. It has been crazy here with all my treatments & work & my kids started school, went for a week & we had historical flooding here in Louisiana (over 30 inches of rain in 3 days caused rivers & bayous to swell & areas that never flood were flooding like crazy). Some homes had water 8 feet high in them! Total losses to so many people, it's so sad. We didn't get water but it was all around us & we couldn't get out to Dr's or work for a week because roads were flooded. Now the traffic is so bad from all the emergency people here helping that my normal 20 minute ride to work has been taking 1 hour & 15 minutes! Crazy! Anyways school starts back tomorrow & some schools were flooded so they are combining those kids into my kids Schools making their school day shorter & traffic much worse! Ahhh it will be a nightmare!
Back to my house work & prepping things for the week...back to school this week & my last AC this week! Woohoo!
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Hello Everyone,
I just got my genetic testing benefits info from Kaiser, (I was negative): total cost, $ 3850. They paid $ 950, and my cost was zero. I am told it used to be a more expensive test. I am very happy with Kaiser's treatment and my out of pocket cost so far, which has been minimal.
I'm on vacation this week, but tomorrow I'm taking my husband in for a colonoscopy, and the next day is my first AC treatment. Do we know how to party, or what??? Nothing against old people, but we are very like old people at the moment. At least I can manage my SE's without trying to work all of the time.
After 12 weeks of Taxol, I notice that my SE's were manageable, but very uncomfortable sometimes: back pain, extreme fatigue near the end, weakness in my legs, aches and pains, neuropathy that came and went, shortness of breath, hot flashes, and rashes. The weird thing is that the SE's presented pretty much in pairs only. If they had all come on at once I would have been a mess. The hot flashes were constant last week, and one of the nurses told me they were from the steroids. Thank goodness they calmed down this week.
SthrnYankee: I took steroids (instead of Benadryl?) during my Taxol treatment. To my knowledge, they never gave me Benadryl. My husband drove me for every dose. I could have gotten home on my own, but I always had to sleep within 1 -2 hours after treatment. That night, the steroids would kick in. I could usually work the next day - but not for the entire day. I would take Thurs off, and work a full day on Fridays. Those Fridays were tough, though. I went home by lunch time with this past one. In the early weeks, I had a lot more stamina and showed up in person a lot more. Now, even talking too much gets to me on a bad day. I have become an energy hoarder, and have found that when it comes to work, "don't overdo it" is excellent advice.
Labs: Thanks for sharing that City of Hope protocol for 3N. I haven't been able to feel my tumor for weeks, and it's nice to know why we have this special order of treatment. Glad I finally saw you on FB, and that you're doing OK.
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Hi Lily: will be thinking of you and praying for you tomorrow. everyone thinks the Adriamycin needs PR makeover, it needs to be a friendlier color, like lavender or pale blue. Remember to think of the chemo as big guns to kill your cancer!!! its a tiny bit less scary that way. God is with you, blessings tomorrow. Hope your husband's colonoscopy goes well today. I didn't feel too bad on the day after treatment, I think the steroids and two IV antinausea meds they gave me helped. Just be very vigilant to take your antinausea meds right on time!! Also helping me to keep taking zantac as the reflux is bad like the taxol. Cytoxan dries you out big time, keep drinking!! blessings and {{HUGS}}, A
Dolly: hope you are still doing well after infusion Fri. only one more for you !!! Huzzah!!
LIttle red, Moondust, Acie, SouthernYankee, ClarkBlue, , hope today is filled with joy and not many SEs. I am headed to take a nap!1
bbg: glad to hear from you, stay strong and keep eating and drinking. So glad you are doing better. Let us know when your surgery is scheduled so we can be praying for you.
seq: I agree with BBg, it isn't whining when its super scary!! Its ok to be scared, just don't be a slave to fear. Remember that chemo & radiation is part of the healing process to get past cancer. Gotta kill every last mutant alien cell!! Being brave is doing what needs to be done despite being scared. You are strong and courageous, and stronger than you know. Blessings and {{hugs} A
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seq24 - how are things? Have you had a chance to catch up? I know it's not the most exciting reading... let us know if you have any questions so far!
-Keely
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Hi Keely,
I'm still working on it. I stopped after the first few pages the other day because I got too scared! I was actually, just now trying to find where I left off.
I got the bomb dropped this morning. I have to do chemo, no other options. 20 weeks of AC/Taxol starting next Friday, just like I thought. Did I mention I am scared silly?! The dr. made it seem like a very easy process and that I would have very few side effects, but by reading everyone's stories on here I know that is absolutely not true. I'm kind of numb right now but know I have hours of crying ahead of me yet today.
Thanks for checking on me. I appreciate it!
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seq24 - just keep reading. We were all freaked out in the beginning too... You will probably have some SEs but they are manageable and many don't have them!! Remember, most of the posts here are from women who are having SEs - we never hear from the ones who go on living with minimal affects from chemo - there is no reason to post that, right? So remember that this site is fairly lopsided when it comes to being a true representation of the BC population. You'll be okay, really. I know it's scary, believe me we all do. But you'll be okay!! You WILL get through this!!
Much love,
-Keely
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Thank you Keely. Here is the start of my tears!
I was wondering about if anyone posted if they had no, or minimal side effects. You just answered my question. I truly hope I can maintain a halfway normal life style through this. Right now I feel like I am going to be 100 until this is over. The dr. kindly reminded me this morning that "don't forget when chemo is done, you still have radiation to go." then 5-10 years of hormone therapy after that.
Thank you for your encouragement and kindness!
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seq,
I have had barely any SEs. I'm doing FEC80 so possibly different chemo from yours. However, I have been very surprised st how easy chemo has been. Don't panic. Just stand firm and get your body ready for chemo. Convince yourself you will be OK. When are you starting chemo?
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Sorry for being MIA so much. I've been super busy with my son and his wife home from Korea and staying with us for a couple of weeks. He'll be stationed in Seattle next, and needs to be up there by the 15th of Sept.
Wednesday it will be three weeks from my last infusion and I will see my MO. She is willing to get me on the name-brand Arimidex which costs $30 per month on their special program. My right wrist is still affected by the deQuervain's syndrome, which I think developed because of the generic arimidex I was on for 8 weeks, and I will also be going to my regular doctor to see about a cortisone shot for that.
I'm glad no one is real sick right now and everyone seems to be coping okay. Labmom, which do you think is worse at this point, the taxol or the AC? I still feel fatigued but that's about it for SE's at this point.
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Seq, Clarkblue is exactly right! I have had very minimal side effects on A/C which is what everyone complains about. And I am much older than you, I am sure (67). You are young and healthy and busy, you will be fine. Just ignore the dramatics and focus on the tips to minimizing side effects, the ice chips, OTC meds, etc. Put your exact chemo info in your byline so we can help you better. Your surgery is behind you, rads and meds aren't that bad. You probably have 12 taxol which is easier than the 4x dose dense
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Moondust,
How lovely to see your face pop up here. I hope you have had a lovely time so faar with your son and his wife. That must have been a real treat for you and one that this year was very well deserved.
Is Arimidex your hormone treatment? When do you start this? I have been told I will have a 3 week break after last chemo before I start RADS but was never told when I will start Tamoxifen. I am assuming they don't put you on it the same time as RADS??
I got a call today from a nurse who is doing the aspirin trial at my hospital. I fitted the pattern for this trial and so they were calling to give me more info about what will happen when I go on this. I told her that I did not want to do the trial, but that I did want to do aspirin and would still like to speak to doctor about this. I was told they could not advise me on this as they were not able to say if it worked or not and if it was safe or not??!!!! I got a feeling of, if I was willing to be a guinea pig for them then great, but other than that, I was not going to get too much advice. I have pushed for futher info and informed her that I will be going on aspirin and so will need further advice and assistance on this after chemo.
What things have you been up to since last chemo? Do NOT feel bad for going MIA, enjoy your freedom!
You will be impressed to hear I finally paid my membership for my fabby gym and start exercise tomorrow.
D
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Labs,
I am doing great thanks. This infusion was very easy also. That is only one out of 5 that were naughty infusions!!! I feel very lucky to be able to say that. I have last one on 15th Septmeber then according to Clarkblue, my hair should start to grow within a few weeks. It has got a lot thinner over the last few weeks, but you know what, I am so over this hair thing now, I am not even bothered anymore. I am so fed up getting anxious about every hair that comes out. ENOUGH and NO MORE. Come on chemo hurry up and let's get this finished!
How are you doing? You are naughty not using FB, it's much easier to chat on that!!!
How many more chemos? I know you finish about two weeks after me. I bet you are looking forward to this so much.
I have put on too much weight now, as have been a fatty batty. I have been lazy and moping around and lying on sofa and eating. I now have had a talk with myself. It needs to end and so sadly and with tears in my eyes, I diet tomorrow hahah
D
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Labs, Thanks for the kind wishes and advice. I agree absolutely - they make that AC seem so menacing. I will think about it going after what's left of my tumor, and squash the SE's with my meds.
My husband's colonosopy went very well, but he was so whiny about fasting and drinking the solution. Glad that's over, and that he's OK. He's been really good about taking care of me, and this thing lasts so long, but I can't imagine him doing what we're doing. We are all absolutely amazing.
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Hey Lilyp
Is husband OK? Sounds like test went well and results were fine too. I do hope so.
Good for him taking such good care of you.
D
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