Ovaries: Please respond if you had them removed

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NoWhyToIt
NoWhyToIt Member Posts: 87
edited September 2016 in Stage III Breast Cancer

Hi-

Curious about experiences with this surgery vs. Lupron: Better, same or worse in terms of side effects. Plus any other wisdom.

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  • fightergirl711
    fightergirl711 Member Posts: 300
    edited August 2016

    thanks for posting this, I'll be interested to read the responses. Just started lupron a few weeks ago, letrozole to follow after the second injection. I can't tell if my joint pain is from lupron or because I'm on the tail end of rads

  • HappyHammer
    HappyHammer Member Posts: 1,247
    edited August 2016

    Am prob older than you but had both ovaries removed in Sept. 2013 before the whole BC ride.  Really had no SE's to note at that time...I was 55...was having a lot of issues with cysts so that is the reason I had the removal.

  • mkinoly
    mkinoly Member Posts: 86
    edited August 2016

    I had mine removed and it seems the only side effects I have are what normally occur with menopause anyway.

  • NoWhyToIt
    NoWhyToIt Member Posts: 87
    edited August 2016

    How was the surgery itself?

  • sugarplum
    sugarplum Member Posts: 318
    edited August 2016

    I had my ovaries removed after I finished chemo so they could give me Arimidex instead of Tamoxifen. The surgery was done at the same time my port was removed and my expanders were replaced with silicone implants. It was a breeze compared to my double mastectomy! There was some abdominal bloating afterwards as they fill you full of gas so they can move around in there, and a little spotting during the night, but I didn't even need a pain pill the next day and drove myself home 50 miles from the hospital (we had bought a car & had to get the other vehicle home - luckily both had power steering!).

    My menopausal side effects were already well underway thanks to chemo, so I can't really distinguish if anything more happened due to the oophorectomy. I'm still on Arimidex nearly 10 years later...although my bones are paying the price!

    Julie

  • NoWhyToIt
    NoWhyToIt Member Posts: 87
    edited August 2016

    Thanks so much!

  • Karina121293
    Karina121293 Member Posts: 370
    edited August 2016

    NYT, I had mine removed at the same time as mastectomy. My doctor firmly believed that I need them off !! I recovered very quick from the surgery and do not regret. Menopause have been mild too. Altogether I am happy I had them removed, there is less worry about estrogen in my body. Gained some weight, but hey ho, should be some price to pay off to survive :)

    Wish you well !

  • Lucca06
    Lucca06 Member Posts: 69
    edited August 2016

    I had mine removed about the year after treatment as they found a cyst on one which they needed to check just to be sure?! I actually asked if they could remove them as they were doing the surgery anyway and I was already menopausal from the treatment. Any chance to limit the estrogen. The surgery was very easy (keyhole) and no ongoing problems as a result. I still take aromasin as back up.


  • ThinkingPositive
    ThinkingPositive Member Posts: 834
    edited August 2016

    Had mine out a year after mastectomy due to a cyst that had been there for years. It was an slightly elevated OVA1 test result that made me say Get them out! Surgery went well. No pain. Little bit of discomfort in the belly button. Negative for ovarian cancer as well!! Glad I did it.

  • YATCOMW
    YATCOMW Member Posts: 664
    edited August 2016

    I started first with the Lupron shots and Tamoxifen but I knew I really wanted to be on Femara so I had my ovaries out after nine months of being on Lupron/Tamoxifen. I had no issues with the surgery at all.

    My biggest issues are vain issues.....I gained weight and my skin has aged dramatically.

    Since reports have come out the Tamoxifen does not work as well with ILC breast cancer...it ended up being a very smart move.......I'll take the wrinkles with my quick move to Femara.


    Jacqueline

  • awnie1301
    awnie1301 Member Posts: 59
    edited August 2016

    Shortly after I finished chemo I started Tamoxifen and Lupron shots. I feel I managed those both quite well but I had already decided to remove my ovaries so that treatment was short lived. I had my ovaries removed 4 months after completing active treatment and started Letrozole at the same time. My hot flashes and achy joints were pretty bad but I stuck it out for about 2 years. My Onc tried to get me to change the AI several times but I resisted until just a month ago (I guess I felt it was a situation of 'better the devil you know').

    I changed to Aromisin last month. I am happy to say the achy joints are much better. Not totally gone but much better. I still have hot flashes but they come less frequently now. It's nice to know there are a few options out there so you can always try something different.



  • Hammie28
    Hammie28 Member Posts: 63
    edited August 2016

    I had mine removed in June (as soon as I finished radiation). Prior to that, I did 4 months of Zolodex shots. I'm happy with my decision. Going back to the treatment center for the injection each month was holding me back emotionally. I am ready (to try) to move past this! Plus it was inconvenient. I had a rough day or so after the surgery but nothing too terrible. Side effects for meare the same as the ovarian suppression.

  • Mommato3
    Mommato3 Member Posts: 633
    edited August 2016

    I started with six months of Zoladex shots before getting my ovaries and tubes removed laparoscopically. The surgery itself was fairly easy. I had surgery about 11 am on Friday and was at my son's baseball game the next morning. No bloating or discomfort. Side effects from the ooph were the same as the Zoladex shots. The hot flashes did seem to increase a little for a couple months after surgery and then they mostly went away. Now I just get some warm flushes occasionally.

  • Brenaj
    Brenaj Member Posts: 18
    edited August 2016

    I had mine removed May 27th. Surgery was on a Friday and I was back to work on the following Tuesday. So surgery and recovery was not an issue for me. I haven't experienced much in the way of menopausal symptoms, but chemo had already put me there.

  • NoWhyToIt
    NoWhyToIt Member Posts: 87
    edited August 2016

    Thanks so much!

  • sherry67
    sherry67 Member Posts: 556
    edited August 2016

    I had mine removed just hate the hot flashes.

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited August 2016

    had mine removed even though was already in menopause from chemo and on Femara. Just didnt want to take any chances.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited August 2016

    Never tried lupron, went straight for ooph, so I could go on an AI (better for lobular). The surgery was easy. They took my uterus too, because I had some massive fibroidss, but left the 'neck' and cervix for bladder support. My lovely surgeon also cleaned up some massive adhesions from a C-section 20 years prior. The menopause thing overnight was not so fun, butI adjusted. It was also a process to adjust sexually to not having a uterus.That took about six months to a year. Thanks to getting rid of the adhesions and fibroids, I actually feel way better than before.

  • Annette_U
    Annette_U Member Posts: 111
    edited August 2016

    Momine- I had the cervix removed with the rest, how do you conclude leaving it helps with bladder control? I have not noticed any difference in control since hysterectomy. Only thing I have experienced is vaginal dryness and loss of libido- which sucks enough!

  • grandma3X
    grandma3X Member Posts: 759
    edited August 2016
    I have an appointment with a GYN oncologist next week. A recent ultrasound showed a slightly thickened endometrium and my ovaries still had follicles (I went through menopause 5years ago). The endometrial biopsy was benign, but I may have the ovaries out just to not have to go through the scanxiety that comes with repeating the US every so often. My exchange surgery for breast implants is scheduled for the end of October and I would like to have them both done at the same time.

    For those of you with ovarian cysts, did they still do the ooph laparoscopically or do they make a larger incision so as to minimize any leakage of cyst fluid? If they do a larger incision, what is the recovery like?
  • ThinkingPositive
    ThinkingPositive Member Posts: 834
    edited August 2016

    I had mine out lapriscopically. Had a 3.5 cm cyst on one ovary for six years. After getting breast cancer I said take them out!!! Surgery was not bad at all. Should have had it done when I had my exchange surgery but I was afraid. Both ovaries and Fallopian tubes out.

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited August 2016

    I had mine out as well because of a cyst with thin septation that was getting slightly larger each US. I ended up having appendicitis so asked to have my ovaries and Fallopian tubes out at the same time. I was lucky they were able to find a gyno on call who talked with my gyno. Surgery was laparoscopically and was very easy. I was up walking around 7 hours later and they discharged me 12 hours after. No problems and only needed Tylenol. I did find that hot flashes increased (had gone through chemopause 3 years earlier) and after 6 months they are finally back to where I was before. I also noticed I'm a bit more emotional- tearing up more frequently but it's always been hard for me to show that emotion so it's a nice change! It was a hard decision and pathology showed they were normal but I don't regret my decision. It was troublesome not knowing if my ovaries were working against me and my Dr. Explained that the only way to be 100% sure was to have them out. I was made well aware of the studies showing that keeping ovaries prolong life but apparently that was a small study done on younger women. I'm 58.

    Good luck with your decision.

  • Mommato3
    Mommato3 Member Posts: 633
    edited August 2016

    I had a cyst on my right ovary and the surgery was still done laparoscopically. The incisions were very small so I guess it didn't matter.

  • AnotherMichelle
    AnotherMichelle Member Posts: 39
    edited September 2016

    I had the ooph + hysterectomy at the same time as lumpectomy. No more menopause symptoms than with chemopause. Easy recovery with robot surgery.

  • robyn31024
    robyn31024 Member Posts: 51
    edited September 2016

    I am debating this now also. I am trip neg but my onc still wants my ovaries shut down since i started back having periods after chemo, because says that you can still have a recurrence and it be hormone receptive. i don't know if i want to take lupron for possibly years. Anyone else just have a hysterectomy instead?Also i figure i wouldn't have to worry about a recurrence shooing up in ovaries or cervix, etc.

  • 7of9
    7of9 Member Posts: 833
    edited September 2016

    Had full hysterectomy at time of Axillary dissection. Good riddance to thick uterus and several fibroids, one over 5 cm. Ovaries were functioning per GYN despite Onc and reg doc thought I was in menopause. Some hot flashes, not much. Aches in shoulder where I had a lot of radiation hard to tell - but other aches and pains loosen right up with exercise and or stretching. I just walk and take hot showers! I wanted all that crap out of me when diagnosed first time but "your ovaries are good for you blah blah blah". Wish they took them the first time so they didn't FEED the leftover cells. Oh well. Procedure was a breeze, side effects minimal to me anyway.

  • pajim
    pajim Member Posts: 2,785
    edited September 2016

    I am someone who has done both. I took Lupron shots for 4+ years. When it became obvious that this needed to be a permanent solution, I decided to quit having the shots and get the operation.

    The side-effects were the same. I asked an endocrinologist I know about menopause. Every woman has a different timetable through menopause. I wanted to know whether I was "resetting the clock" on the length of time I'd have hot flashes. She said no one knows but she thought not.

    FYI I didn't have trouble with the shots, and the operation (laparascopic) was easy. Home the same day, back at work two days later. All I needed was a little Advil. [your experience may vary -- all I needed after my mastectomy was a little Advil]

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited September 2016
  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited September 2016

    I had one shot of Lupron (3 month shot) before I had my ovaries out, so I can't really compare the 2. I was peri-menopausal when I was diagnosed and chemo stopped my periods...onc didn't think they would come back but still put me on Lupron so I could start AI's. I will be honest, it is tough being thrown into instant menopause, even at 50!! The surgery itself was relatively easy...done laproscopic, day surgery. I took a week off work and needed just due to fatigue. I had bilat, then chemo, rads, AI's and ooph all in about 7 months.

  • NoWhyToIt
    NoWhyToIt Member Posts: 87
    edited September 2016

    A little advil after mastectomy? I'm impressed! Thanks for the info.

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