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  • Kechla
    Kechla Member Posts: 231
    edited August 2016

    Thank you Karen. That is comforting to know. Thanks for all the tips too! I think I am most worried about the Neulasta shot. I had already decided to do the icing of my hands and feet. I will see how it goes. I also have Raynaud's so need to be careful... I'm also going to try to cold cap to try to ward off any permanent hair loss. All the talk around the lawsuits and up to 6% of patients with permanent hair loss is quite disturbing. Have you had good hair regrowth after your taxotere? It seems so random. I know the odds are good that my hair would come back, but I haven't had good luck with odds lately...

    I hope you are on the mend after your ordeal with radiation. I'm surprised by how fast my underarm is healing now that they are done with that area. I have 5 more boosts to go. They started using a bolus today. They said it was to get the radiation to focus closer to the skin. I'm sure they are trying to stay away from the implant.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited August 2016

    I concur with KarenC, you will find chemo very doable.

  • KarenInCanada
    KarenInCanada Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2016

    Kechla, my hair has grown back fine. It is darker than I have ever had with scattered silver throughout but growing fine and thick like it was. Some areas quicker than others but it is all coming. It is rare SE for the hair not to come in they don't allow anyone doing cold capping at the hospital I went to, not sure about the rest of the province or Canada in general. I would not have anyways just for fear of rogue cancer cells not getting all killed off by the chemo. It is all a personal decision for those who are allowed it.

  • ejmann44
    ejmann44 Member Posts: 89
    edited August 2016

    On Monday my RO decided to switch to the boosts and get those out of the way before finishing the 4 whole breast I have left. He ordered an antibiotic he said might help my breast heal although he said there was no infection.

    In the 4 days this week the area under my breast is all healed up. I think the new topical my mom and I used last week helped stop the breaking down of my skin and the antibiotic has helped too. I also had these Cool Magic Clear Hydrogel Sheets that I cut into a strip and put under my breast to cool it. It created a barrier between the two raw parts of my breast (I'm a DD) and really took a lot of the heat away. It goes on very cool and came off hot. I could not find it in stores. I had to order more at mpmmed.com If anyone decides to get them be aware it is like working with two sided tape. You need to peel the plastic off both sides and it is very sticky. I had my daughters hold the strip while I held my breast up and they put the strip under along the "seam" and then I put my breast on top. Another brand that was suggested is 2nd skin but I could not find it in any stores/pharmacies and ended up ordering it from Amazon so I could compare.

    So if I did this over again, I would make sure to have plenty of the cooling sheets, use Aquaphor and have some Sonafine (generic name) on hand because I'm allergic to sulfur. Sonafine was not covered by our insurance and runs $60/tube. I would drink Propel from the beginning. It really helped with the fatigue and I would start eating extra protein right away. I would start using the cooling sheets as soon as my breast gets hot. At one point I put a thermometer on my underside of my breast and it registered 100.9! I would clear my calendar and be prepared to spend a lot of time airing out my breast and under my arm. My mom bought me one of those little handheld fans you buy at amusement parks and it really helped. Amazon sells breast slings with pads. I bought the pads but they are a bit small for me. I will try them once I'm healed up inside my bra to stay dry. The key is to stay dry! The moisture trapped by the heat of your skin is what does you in. Keep your arm up when you watch TV and if you have to use some corn starch use it.

  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited August 2016

    EJMann, can you post an Amazon link to the breast slings? I'm a DD too.

  • jenniferjo71
    jenniferjo71 Member Posts: 19
    edited August 2016

    Ok ladies- I am going to see my onc. next week, but one of my bad boob sisters sees the same doctor- and she texted me that the on suggested maxi pads in the bra- I could have slapped myself in the forehead. It's obvious. Anyway, I started sticking those in the bra 2 days ago....much much easier than what I was doing, plus the absortion...nough said.


  • Carlsoda
    Carlsoda Member Posts: 249
    edited August 2016

    1 week update: have totally forgotten what going to radiation is like every single day! It is so good to be back to normal life again (well as normal as it can be!) and skin is healing up nicely. Not red anymore but deeply tanned (brown) and still putting on the aquaphor. I tried wearing a normal bra the other day but I am not quite ready yet. Soon though!

    Aquaphor is amazing btw!

    And I started tamoxifen yesterday. I was super dizzy all day but unsure if it was tamoxifen or weather/allergies. Time will tell.

    Hope everyone is getting through their rads, sounds like you all are finding ways to cope! Hugs!!!

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited August 2016

    So Happy for you Carlsoda.

    I can't say the same. For me it's the gift that keeps giving. Funny thing is I used aquaphor and calendula cream even when I did not have skin symptoms then BAM, it started. the deep red then peeling now open sores under where my breast was and my neck. The prescription cream really makes it feel better and as horrid as it looks it actually does not feel as bad anymore. My dr says one more week and it will heal so quickly I won't remember it was like this.

    I can believe it because one day ,my underarm was flaming and painful and overnight it was better and now healed.

    I believe it's like for those of us that went through chemo, some side effects affect some of us, and not others. Some breeze through the harshest chemos, others have almost every side effect listed. I think rads is the same way. Thanks to this thread and the spring thread I did not feel alone.

    thanks for everyone that posts and keeps us informed of how well, or sometimes not so well they are doing. It really helps to not feel alone when the worst happens to you. and then you read it gets better.

    val


  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited August 2016

    jenniferjo71

    I was on Tamoxifen the entire time I was doing rads. I asked my onc for the reason. She said..

    a) The Tamox and rads do not interfere with each other and

    b) If you are super ER+, then it's best to get on the hormone therapy ASAP.

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited August 2016

    Hello all

    I am three weeks out from rads and have begun feeling so much better! The burns are healing and I stopped putting the Betamethasone cream on about a week ago. Bras and swimsuit tops are still VERY uncomfortable around my arm pit.

    And now the healing from this treatment continues. Therapy with an oncology specialist, a full cognitive screening and PT are on the way.

    Take care of yourselves, ladies.

  • KarenInCanada
    KarenInCanada Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2016

    3 weeks out, my son says I look better and am getting back to my old self. I actually have some colour instead of the pale skin all over. I am still sore but the rads have all cleared up. Just my SNB and lumpectomy incisions are still sore. I do get very bad stabbing feelings through my breast. Does anyone else? They really hurt. I'm hoping it just all the healing going on inside.

    I am still very tired, seemed to have been worse this past week. I barely went out at all, but it was incredibly hot too.

    Hope everyone else is doing well

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited August 2016

    You ladies give me hope. 2 weeks out. My neck is still the worst and the center of my chest. I think because neck skin is thinner? Did you ladies have rads all the way up your neck too?

  • KarenInCanada
    KarenInCanada Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2016

    My rads went about as high up as the top of my underarm across my chest and right down the centre of my breasts. More concentration was on my side of my breast and all down under my arm is where my skin was the worst. It will clear up Valstim....although it feels like it takes forever! Mine is all cleared up now. Only tiredness and inside pains now

  • Marian13
    Marian13 Member Posts: 3
    edited August 2016

    Anyone have radiation after mastectomy and reconstruction? I had a close margin after mastectomy. I had prepectoral silicone implants placed immediately. I am on day 8 of radiation and worried about the side effects!

  • sarahrae
    sarahrae Member Posts: 86
    edited August 2016

    Karen,

    I have those stabby pains in my breast as well, they started at about tx 28. I am 3 days out from my final zap. Sounds like I need to get use to the stabs... :(

    let me know when the start fading.

    Glad your skin is getting back to normal.

  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited August 2016

    Karen, they didn't do your clavicle?

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited August 2016

    Thanks Karen, I'm hanging in there./

  • Kechla
    Kechla Member Posts: 231
    edited August 2016

    Marian, I will be finishing up this Wednesday with 28 whole breast/nodes radiation plus 8 boosts. So far my (saline) implant is good and staying loose, although my RO indicates contracture can occur for up to 2 years. I di have some scar tissue pulling early on at the lower portion, but that seems to have resolved.

  • Carlsoda
    Carlsoda Member Posts: 249
    edited August 2016

    Karen, the stabby pains I was told is the nerves healing. Mine is getting much better, but still bothersome every once in awhile.

    Still doing well over here. Skin color is fading dramatically but still using the aquaphor. I think it's helping with the healing. Still tired at times but a lot better. Now I just need a full 8 hours of sleep at night instead of 10 to 12 :)

    I have been on tamoxifen for almost a week and no side effects (yet)! MO office is checking up on me weekly for the 1st month, so I feel like I am not alone starting this drug.

    So glad to be on the other side! I am now a survivor not so much a patient anymore!

    Hugs

  • KarenInCanada
    KarenInCanada Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2016

    No LMV, they didn't go that high at all.Thank you Sarahrae and Carlsoda. Glad it's not unusual!

  • Marian13
    Marian13 Member Posts: 3
    edited August 2016

    Kechla, congratulations on finishing on Wednesday! Did you do any particular stretches or massage or use any cream that you think helped?

  • ejmann44
    ejmann44 Member Posts: 89
    edited August 2016

    Today was number 6 of 8 boosters and then I have to go back and do 4 whole breast. We had to take a break on the whole breast so my skin could heal and it healed great. My RO said the 4 whole breast should not make the skin bad again and he thinks I will be able to swim late next week! I'm so excited.

    I was doing well on the fatigue until today. I had an allergic reaction that required some Benadryl and it took me out for the entire day. After I slept off the Benadryl I was still exhausted and felt like my legs weighed 100 lbs! Now of course I'm wide awake and it is midnight. :( Argh!

  • jenniferjo71
    jenniferjo71 Member Posts: 19
    edited August 2016

    It is so nice to see so many of us who are there, or almost there. I have found that my skin is getting better by the day, not quite as horrified as I was a week ago on my last of 34. I have the stabbing pains in my breast as well, and actually have quite a bit of tightness in my wrist and lower arm as well. For now I am chalking it up to nerves repairing. I will ask my oncologist when I see her next week. I still use the aquaphor as well, and stretch my upper body as much as possible. We just took our dog for a walk at 9:00 pm our time, and it is still 102 degrees here. Vegas. I will be very happy to have the weather cool down, may help with the skin issue as well. Best to all of you. And to everyone who is just beginning this- you will get through it. I was so blue weeks 3-5, because I was already red and blistery, and still had (felt that I had) so long to go, and no matter how much someone tells you that you will heal, it seems beyond grasp at times, particularly after another long night of tears or sleeping in a recliner. BUT, it does, I am starting to heal. Exponentially quicker then I could imagine. Hang in there.

  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited August 2016

    Does everyone experience redness on their back on the side that is being radiated?

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited August 2016

    My surgeon says that the ice pick pain will subside - it is, indeed, the nerves repairing. Mine have subsided. I am now 3+ weeks out and I feel so much better, mentally and physically

  • Kechla
    Kechla Member Posts: 231
    edited August 2016

    Marian, I used mostly coconut oil (the kind you find in an organic food section) throughout. It is wonderful! I am going to keep using it to replace any lotions I've used before. Some other things I used as skin symptoms got worse were aquafor, triple antibiotic cream, hydrocortisone cream (for itching), and a sock filled with corn starch to dry up moist areas. I also had Miaderm, but did not use it as much due to liking the coconut oil so much. It helps break up all the dead skin as you are healing too. My last day is tomorrow!!! Woo hoo!!! My underarm is almost completely healed and it looked like road rash for quite a while. Once I started boosts, the healing began and happened fast. Under my breast is still a little crackly and rough, but looks so much better. My scar has been hurting now that I am on the boosts. Feels similar to a bad bruise.

    As far as my implant, I massaged the implant making sure it had good movement each time I put the coconut oil on. Mine are saline though. Not sure if yours are teardrop, so you may need to be more careful. I do have some swelling in my breast that may or may not be lymphedema from radiating the nodes. Time will tell. It has not seemed to get any larger over the past week. I am to take ibuprofen 3x per day to help bring the swelling down.

    I have also tried to keep my range of motion good. Even on my worst skin days when it was more painful, I stretched my arms up and out a lot to keep all the muscles and tendons loose. I also tend to sleep in about 50 different positions during the night and I have read somewhere that some belly sleeping actually helps keep the pocket stretched out (for saline - not sure about silicone). I have never been easy on my implants, and so far they are doing fine.

    Now I get to wait for the next couple years to see if contracture decides to set in. I did see a plastic surgeon prior and he said that they grade the contracture from a scale of 1-4. If 1 or 2, they leave it be and I learn to live with it. At 3 or 4, they would take out the implant, break up the scarring, and put a new implant back in. If the skin is bad, they would also have to replace the skin from somewhere else (my back?) That sounds lovely.

    I'm so glad to be done tomorrow! Anyone gain any weight besides me? Ugh!!! I gained 10 lbs in 7 1/2 weeks. So tired all the time. Just this week, I feel like I'm finally getting some energy back (I was yawning as I wrote that... Ha!)

    Next week I start Chemo. I'm very nervous about that, but have been glad to read so many success stories about minimal side effects (especially with TC).

    Good luck to everyone still working toward the end of their radiation. It will come soon and in a couple months will just be a memory. Love to you all!!!

  • alostlady2
    alostlady2 Member Posts: 5
    edited August 2016

    Hi, I have finished  23 whole breast treatments and 2 of my 7 boosts.  I am red all over the radiated breast and redness on my back. Surprisingly though my armpit is still white. I have pain like knives tearing the skin under the breast, on my clavicle, and on my lymph node incision. The RO is surprised at how well my skin has held up during treatment. He told me 4 times at my initial skin assessment that I would burn, I would blister, and I would hurt.  I had a compression blister the size of a half dollar to the side of my lumpectomy incision, that was barely healed when I started the treatments. The boost treatments are aimed at each side of the compression blister, I am praying that it can endure the radiation and not react like the under breast, clavicle, and lymph node incision.  I have woken up for the past 5 mornings with a stiff neck. I don't know if this related to treatment or my sleeping position; I haven't changed pillows or anything on the bed. 

  • Opt4Life
    Opt4Life Member Posts: 191
    edited August 2016

    Its great to hear so many of us finished or finishing up rads. So far, my dark skin just looks darker but my upper arm is tight, I have the occasional stabbing pains ( boy they hurt) and the underside of my breat (where my incision is) feels like a slight burn so I'm weating my super soft sports bras only. I haven't felt tired yet but I make sure I get at least 5 days of 75 min cardio so that helps I think.

    Got 5 treatments left but they have to be spaced out over the next two weeks because work has me on travel for a few days.

  • KarenInCanada
    KarenInCanada Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2016

    Kechla between chemo, steroids and rads I gained about 25 pounds. It's awful. I have lost 5 so far but am still so tired all the time it's hard. I do try to exercise though. I have to go back to work in October to an active job so walking and exercising is the only way I'll get there. Hoping I'll have more hair and less weight by then!

    I hear everyone on those stabbing ice pick like pains...they really do hurt. I am over 3 weeks out and still get them, but I have noticed the last few days were not as bad. Had Hercepton number 7 yearterday, 11 more to go lol. Will be a pain having appts to have to go to when I am back at work!

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