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  • car2tenn
    car2tenn Member Posts: 515
    edited August 2016

    Absolutely not. Even the stupid radiologists cleared me from a mammogram. 8 weeks later, I found a lump and it turned out to be Stage 4. Yep it was missed by lots of folks. But almost 3 years later I am still doing well. Hope it continues...blessings to you . Carolyn

  • corky60
    corky60 Member Posts: 726
    edited August 2016

    No clue, no lump. Radiologist saw that a group of calcifications had disappeared so ordered an ultrasound. A few days later I went back for a core needle biopsy. She said that IDC "eats" calcifications so she suspected IDC and she was right. The core needle biopsy removed the cancer. No cancer found in the tissue from the lumpectomy.

  • Loula1304
    Loula1304 Member Posts: 1
    edited August 2016

    Hi,

    I am finding this to be an interesting thread. A week ago, I felt the lump in the shower, and froze. I thought immediately that it was cancer, and have been convincing myself back and forth ever since. I check it a few times a day-trying to determine if it is or isn't, by touch. I have a mammogram scheduled for tomorrow, so I guess I will then see if my original instinct was right or wrong.

    Loula

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited August 2016

    Hi Loula1304,

    Welcome to the bco community!

    Sorry your concerns have brought you here but we're glad you decided to join us and reach out to other members.

    Good luck with the mammogram tomorrow! Let us know how it goes.

    The Mods.

  • leftduetostupidmods
    leftduetostupidmods Member Posts: 620
    edited August 2016

    For a year before I felt anything I had this horrible feeling of impending doom every night I went to bed. Also, my whippet dog was extremely clingy.

    After I had the stereotactic biopsy that showed DCIS, the "impending doom" was still there and I was sure that it was not just that. The post BMX pathology proved me right. Once I had the BMX I didn't have that feeling anymore.

    On the other hand, after the BMX, I also KNEW that my lymph nodes were clean. Post-ALND pathology showed that I was right again.

  • hsant
    hsant Member Posts: 790
    edited August 2016

    As soon as I got the call after my routine mammo that there was "an area of concern" I knew it was cancer. Even when I told the radiologist who analyzed my second mammo (digital? Can't remember the name) that I had a strong history of BC in my family, he said 80% of the time it's benign. I knew it was cancer.

    I've been getting mammo's since my early 30s, but when I turned 40 I thought for sure I had cancer, but the mammo came up clean. Cut to 8 years later, I'm diagnosed with DCIS with a possible borderline micro-invasion, and opt for a BMX. A 1.5 cm tumor (IDC) was found in pathology. I asked my breast surgeon how long he thought it had been hanging around, and he said 8 or 9 years. So my instincts were right that there wasn't something right during that time

  • fightergirl711
    fightergirl711 Member Posts: 300
    edited August 2016

    Last summer I felt off. I went through our wills, long term disability options, and life insurance. I even got a dog "in case something happened to me" for the kids. I would purposely go outside at night and look up at the sky to remind myself there was a lot more to this earth. I wasn't even going to get my mammogram last fall, I had no symptoms, I was running around between kids, work, you name it. When I was diagnosed at Stage 3 in December I was convinced I was going to die. I freaked myself out so much I spoke to the hospital social worker about it, she said she heard stories like that all the time.

  • LM070917
    LM070917 Member Posts: 323
    edited August 2016

    I knew something was wrong with my body 2 years prior to diagnosis. I started feeling really fatigued, was overweight, depressed, developed skin conditions (rosacea and white patches on my skin, that the docs could never diagnose), increased asthma attacks and then boom...BC..my body or immune definitely wasn't working properly in the lead up. They were alarm bells that I simplyignored. However since then I have completely done a 360 and changed diet and lifestyle and best of all, I don't have any of those issues anymore. My immune seems to be working better than it ever did, because I'm finally listening.

    Research says a lot of people who suffer from autoimmune diseases are at a heightened risk from cancer and I believe this to be true, an alarm bell if you will.

  • Worrywort11
    Worrywort11 Member Posts: 9
    edited August 2016

    Hi to all!

    Just to be clear, I have not been diagnosed yet. I have my first appointment on Friday with my specialist after my ultrasound came with BI-RADS 4B. I had a really big scare in 2013 where the doctors found pre cancerous cells in my cervix (after my genius OBGYN missed it for several years, long story). I was really freaked out and after the surgery the doctor said that if I had waited a few more months it would have definitely been cancer. However, this time its all different. I know something is up and I have been able to place changes in me which I attributed to just life. For instance, I postponed getting the ultrasound until after I came back from vacation. I really felt the urge to get some good R & R before having to face this issue. I have been having pain in my breast since February. At first I thought it was my menstrual cycle, then I thought maybe a muscle I pulled. Then I finally figured out, yeah this is not going away and its not normal. Then during my vacation, I thought I was just tired but I have been just exhausted and extremely tired and fatigued. I thought it was just life. Then I have lost weight, like six pounds for no reason cause I am still eating everything that is not nailed to the wall! All this happened before I got my ultrasound done. I will definitely let you all know what my diagnosis and I will let you all know if I was just ignoring my body for a few months even though it was trying to tell me something was wrong.

  • mara51506
    mara51506 Member Posts: 5,088
    edited August 2016

    Nope, neither time I got a diagnosis. The breast did not come up til family doctor noticed some subtle skin thickening. It started as DCIS so there was no discernable lump. Can't say I felt tired or anything.

    When the brain met was diagnosed, the symptoms for me which were caused by brain swelling were just general nausea "I feel crappy" sort of feeling and it was there probably from my first diagnosis. I have never had what I would call "pain" that led me to any diagnoses I have had.

    I finally went to emergency due to volume of what I thought was vertigo but turned out to be incredible pressure in my skull. Cat scan revealed tumour and MRI confirmed the diagnosis.

    I fully believe some people are able to tell they are sick but for a lot of us, it does not work like that and a different symptom may cause the diagnosis than what a person expects.

  • ml143333
    ml143333 Member Posts: 658
    edited August 2016

    I felt a lump on the side of my breast one night in July when I put my hand under my armpits because I was cold. The lump was unusual, didn't hurt and I just knew it shouldn't be there. On Monday morning, I went to my GYN. He said it was probably fibrocystic changes and nothing to worry about, but went ahead and set me up for a DX mammo at my insistence. Two weeks later, went for the DX mammo, stayed for an ultrasound and then a biopsy. Good thing - two days later I was diagnosed with BC. I knew it in my gut from the beginning.

  • Wicked
    Wicked Member Posts: 141
    edited August 2016

    My doc found a lump during a breast exam. My immediate thought was, "no good is going to come of this." That lump turned out to be a cyst, but the subsequent mammogram led to stereotactic biopsies on each side, a hematoma on the right, LCIS found on both sides, two lumpectomies, and a finding of ILC on the left.

  • minmom24
    minmom24 Member Posts: 20
    edited August 2016

    I was diagnosed with Intraductal papilloma and LCIS. I told both the surgical breast oncologist and the medical oncologist that I thought something more was going on, but neither found any clinical evidence. I had a prophylactic bilateral mastectomy for 58.4% lifetime risk of invasive breast carcinoma due to my LCIS and two sisters with breast cancer. The biopsy of the breast tissue showed invasive lobular carcinoma. I wasn't surprised.



  • etnasgrl
    etnasgrl Member Posts: 650
    edited August 2016

    I was supposed to get my annual mammogram in August of 2015, but ended up getting a job interview for the same day, so I rescheduled it to a date in September of 2015.
    When that date rolled around, my son was sick, so I rescheduled once again for a date in October of 2015. While I was on the phone, rescheduling, I had a very strong feeling to NOT reschedule again. I never experienced anything like that before.
    October rolled around and I went im for the mammogram. Two days later, my doctor called, wanting me to go back in for an ultrasound. I wasn't concerned as this happens to me often, usually every year. I went back for the ultrasound and when the radiologist came in to let me know that she saw an area of concern, that she wanted to biopsy, I instantly knew it was cancer. I just knew.
    One week later, it was confirmed that I was right.

  • Bagsharon
    Bagsharon Member Posts: 200
    edited August 2016

    Even though I found the lump myself, I still didn't think it was anything but a cyst until I saw the BIRADS 5 on the mammogram results in the patient portal.

  • radgal
    radgal Member Posts: 100
    edited August 2016

    I had been tired. It had nothing to do with cancer.

    I took the day off for lab tests. "Would you like a mammogram too?" she asked.

    No, not at all I thought to myself. I debated with myself further...oh alright, might as well since I took the day off work for these lab tests.

    "Sure, might as well" I replied.

    It was only the second mammogram I had ever had.

    A few weeks later I got a call that the radiologist wanted additional views.

    Additional views, an ultrasound and a biopsy confirmed stage I breast cancer.

    Wow! That blew me away!!

    I never thought I would be a member of the pink ribbon club.

    No symptoms, only my second mammogram (that is how convinced I was that I would never have breast cancer)...had no clue.

  • Oakmoss
    Oakmoss Member Posts: 28
    edited August 2016

    This is sort of an eerie question for me. I've had a chronic illness since I was 30 years old, and one of the things it does is drastically reduce Natural Killer cell function, and cause various other immune perturbations. My specialist had warned me that I was at a greater risk of cancer than a normal-health person. I understood this, did the best I could to take care of myself -- I've been eating tons of organic vegetables for years now, never smoked, etc. -- and I remained hopeful, and didn't worry too much. Until about May of this year, and I heard of another woman diagnosed with breast cancer, and I just shivered and had this feeling that my turn with the disease was coming. What seemed odd was that my regular self exams had never turned up anything and then suddenly, at the end of June, I did feel something and it was alarming. The doctor thinks the tumor formed deep and then rose closer to the surface where I could palpate it. The night that I did feel it, and looked and saw dimpling, I was pretty certain it was cancer and I felt sad, but not really surprised. Now, as the weeks pass, my sense of stress is building.

  • suzygirl
    suzygirl Member Posts: 22
    edited September 2016

    Even when the radiologist said she was concerned with a new area of micro calcifications on my diagnostic mammogram I was totally convinced I did not have breast cancer. After all, I had had almost annual "call backs" over 25 years of mammograms, I had had many ultrasounds over the years and I even had had a negative excisional biopsy at age 48, as well as plenty of cysts over the years. Well -- to make a long story short, I turned out to have Stage 1 IDC in both breasts and a large amount of DCIS in one, LCIS in the other. So the long run of false alarms finally ended. At no time did I have ever have any sense of being other than in perfect health. The only indication that something might have been "off" was that two weeks before the fateful mammogram, my dentist sent me to my primary care doc because he thought I had too much bleeding around my gums given my good oral hygiene. She found nothing amiss, but after the bc diagnosis he said he thought the bleeding might have been caused by a heightened immune response to the cancer! During my consult with the radiation oncologist, he told me cancer tumors throw off all kind of weird chemicals, and that it was perfecly possible that caused the bleeding. After my BMX and post-surgery recovery, my gums went back to normal. During the whole process, I never felt sick in the slightest.

  • Bonniebleu
    Bonniebleu Member Posts: 71
    edited September 2016

    Nope, no idea. Just went in for my normal mammogram.I had very dense breasts and all previous mammograms required me to go back for ultrasound etc. and lots of worry, so I just chalked it up to that. Until they told me I had to schedule a biopsy, then my heart dropped.

  • Michellelynn875
    Michellelynn875 Member Posts: 21
    edited September 2016

    I honestly believed them when they said it was a swollen milk duct. I wish I had something nagging me to get a second opinion. When I went back 12 months later for my follow up. I was already a stage 3c, ten positive nodes. Now I worry that since I trusted their diagnosis a year earlier, my life may possibly be shortened since the cancer was given an extra year to spread.

    Michelle



  • amygil81
    amygil81 Member Posts: 165
    edited September 2016

    I knew I had cancer the instant my fingers touched my breast lump. I'd survived bone cancer as a teen 19 years before, osteosarcoma in my left leg, so the possibility of cancer coming back was never far from my thoughts.. Been there, done that, now I had to do it again. Sitting on my shower bench, a breast in each hand, I felt a lump on the left that wasn't on the right. I called my primary the next day, they pulled some strings because of my cancer history, and got me right in to see the breast surgeon. You know the drill: mammogram, biopsy, diagnosis (multifocal DCIS), then off came the boob. There has to be a better way than this.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited September 2016

    Nope, and no palpable lumps to point my thinking in that direction. I felt fine.

  • SillyMe0114
    SillyMe0114 Member Posts: 11
    edited September 2016

    Yes, both times.

    The first time I felt my lump, I was in the middle of caring for a granmother who had come out of remission with multiple myeloma. Not having time or resources, I made jokes with my fiance about "my tumor" for two years plus some before I began to have nightmares about it every single night and went to get it checked. I was very young and healthy with seasonal allergies and a couple of accidents requiring stitches or a cast. I knew it was cancer when my PC first checked my normal breast and then my problem. For a fraction of a second I saw something on his face that told me all I needed to know.

    The second time, my cancer doctors and OB-Gyn all suddenly got strange looks on their faces when they would get to the spot where my first tumor was. I had scar tissue there from wide excisional biopsy, followed by a lumpectomy for clean margins and radiation with boost to the tumor bed. I was again busy with care giving and work during the recession, and kept thinking "scar tissue". I decided to really check for myself to see what exactly they were concerned about. (I had missed doing regular BSEs because of other worries and too busy.) When I checked, I knew but waited again. After almost another year, it was clear and frightening, and I finally did something about it.

    I have very dense breasts and no family history. Every mammogram I've had said that my problem breast was fine, even when it had a 3 cm tumor in it. (Twice now.) Ultrasound showed the tumors clearly. Without Breast Self Exams by myself or a medical professional, I probably wouldn't be here. My first OB-Gyn told me I had a cyst with the first one, a few years before I could feel anything. I'm not sure what she felt, but I never went back to her again.

  • bluepearl
    bluepearl Member Posts: 961
    edited September 2016

    Yes. Both times.

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited September 2016

    i had no clue. I went to Vegas with my girlfriends to celebrate my 40th birthday. Came home for an annual physical and my doctor suggested a baseline mammo. Got a call back for clusters of microcalcifications. Then I needed a biopsy. My doctor kept telling me not to worry. Then brought me in her office and said "I'm so sorry, you had like a 1% chance...but it's cancer". I was all by myself cause I thought it would be nothing. 4b should have tipped me off but it didn't.

  • Arizonahiker53
    Arizonahiker53 Member Posts: 5
    edited September 2016

    My lump fit textbook cancer description ( hard, did not move easily )- I knew for sure it was cancer after my ultrasound due to the reaction from medical team. And then of course biopsy confirmed it .

  • Lita57
    Lita57 Member Posts: 2,437
    edited September 2016

    Absolutely no clue. No BC history in my family, and my previous mammo, exactly one year to the date b4 Dx showed NO CANCER.

    I'd been having horrible back pain and rib pain, but just figured the back was either arthritis or a bulging disc and that I'd strained/pulled a muscle to account for the rib pain. When the pain became intolerable, DH and I finally convinced my dr to give me a scan (she had REFUSED to do one three times when I asked for it). They found multiple mets in my spine (that was causing the pain and compression fractures and also compressing my spinal cord, which was the WORST pain), also mets in my pelvic bone, hips, and ribs and mets in multiple organs.

    I was shocked, and went to all the other scans and biopsy like a drugged zombie (they put me on opioids immediately for the pain). It's been about 6 mos. since Dx, and I still have a hard time believing it.

    I have what they call a "ghost" cancer that cannot be seen on a mammo. It's "occult" (hidden), "amorphic" (without definitive shape). It can only be seen on a dye infused CT scan. When I had my biopsy, the tech doing the sonogram had to use my dye CT scan as a guide to find the area so the dr could do the core biopsy. I never felt a lump, never felt sick, just tired for months prior, and I chalked that up to being a 57 year old woman.

    I also have a cardiac arrhythmia, so I was always more concerned about keeling over from a heart attack than getting cancer. The Fates really have a sense of humor.

    So, here we are, Lita


  • HelenWNZ
    HelenWNZ Member Posts: 485
    edited September 2016

    I had a recall from my routine mammogram to be told I had cysts and cysts were our friends. This was August 2015. In February while getting dressed in front of the mirror I noticed one breast was different from the other which looked odd. I had no clues until I checked online and saw that I had other symptoms and then I knew all was not going to be good. After all my testing I said to my surgeon straight off I'm looking a stage 3 aren't I and he said yes but not sure to we operate just how much it has spread. Really pissed off stage3c.


  • Mitzy71
    Mitzy71 Member Posts: 1
    edited October 2016

    I knew as soon as I felt the lump. I was putting on lotion and felt it at the top of my breast. I don't have lumpy breasts but they are very dense. I was not at all surprised when they did the ultrasound and the tech asked me not to get dressed because the Dr would probably want to come in to talk to me. It wasn't my Dr but the one at the clinic. She scheduled an MRI and biopsy as soon as their next available appointments before consulting my Dr. Honor Health in Phoenix gives all biopsy results within 24 hrs which is great. Virtually no waiting. 1.9 cm invasive ductile carcinoma grade 3 triple negative BRCA negative age 45

    The irritating thing is my gyno had ordered a mammogram AND ultrasound 2 yrs earlier due to dense breasts and when I went in to get it done the CLINIC (not honor health) decided I didn't need an ultrasound because they didn't see anything on the mammo. I don't know if anything was there then but I do know it's still hard to see my tumor on the mammogram but it's very clear on the ultrasound. It could easily have been missed when it was smaller. I tell everyone to request the ultrasound.


  • Lita57
    Lita57 Member Posts: 2,437
    edited October 2016

    Mitzy: I totally agree, get an ultrasound.

    UCSF Medical Center breast cancer specialist, Dr. Laura Esserman, was featured in an article in Prevention magazine months ago, and she said mammograms are totally worthless. My mammo didn't detect my Stage IV cancer. Come on! Stage IV, and it couldn't detect it?? And what about all the women freaking out over getting false positives when part of the breast may have just been folded over on itself? And more women like me are facing an early death because of false NEGATIVES. My radiation oncologist figures my BC has been there for at LEAST 18 months, possibly longer, judging from the size and extent of all my mets. It was probably already Stage II last year when I got my annual mammo in April, which they said was negative/clear.

    I'm really pissed about that, but I have to accept it because I can't go back and change anything. It is what it is. Yes, I will live a little longer than a woman Dx'd with Stage IV cancer forty years ago, but I have to face the facts that I won't make it to 85 like my dad or be able to watch future grand children graduate.

    Fun times,

    Lita


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