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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    Hi zaroyka,

    i don't know if you were posting to me or Quinn, or both, but..

    i like to do all the things you mentioned. trouble is, the walking is now bringing on rib pain. i think i need to rule out a stress factor yeah?

    if ct/bone may not show anything..would a pet scan do it?

    or as you say..if it doesnt show..no need to bother about it?


  • zarovka
    zarovka Member Posts: 3,607
    edited August 2016

    Astrid - I missed your post. I was responding to Mom.

    If I were you I would go to an oncologist and tell them you are concerned because of the pain and you feel it is time to do a CT/Bone scan. If they agree you need it, have them order it. I suspect they will scan you given the history of cancer. But it is certainly a reasonable request. CT/Bone scans do miss very small mets, but that is not a reason not to scan.

    The scanning you do for cancer is a bit different than if you are looking for things that chiropractors understand, like arthritis. Medical doctors and chiropractors make mistakes when diagnosing cancer. I was mis-diagnosed for 9 long months during which my cancer probably spread quite a bit.

    My response was to Mom who I believe had a clean scan but still feels pain. You have pain, but you haven't been seen by an oncologist recently or scanned. Different situation. I would definitely see an oncologist and I won't be surprised if you and the oncologist agree that a scan is a good idea.

    And do watch the stress. These periods of diagnosis and re-diagnosis are terrible.

    >Z<

  • Mom2fourplusmore
    Mom2fourplusmore Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2016

    Barbe and Zarovska, thanks for the advice. I feel better knowing that although the scan could have missed something small it probably isn't what I'm dealing with. I've been considering going for a massage. I think I've only had 3 my entire life but maybe this is a good time for a fourth. I do a lot of hiking. That has been a big help for me emotionally. I was once told that just 30 or an hour outside in nature walking is equivalent to 50 Prozac pills. I guess I won't be depressed even though my head and neck may explode. Lol.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    thanks so much zarovka.

    I appreciate your reply very much.

    astrid

  • GooniesGirl
    GooniesGirl Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2016

    dlb823- I took your advice and called dr to add contrast thank you so much for your opinion and advice

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    Hi ladies, I just happened to read this thread, and although there has been a response and many of you have more experience than I do, I have a thought for Mom2fourplusmore. I found that after my BMX I had shoulder pain and determined that it was a posture thing because I was carrying myself differently. This summer I began reconstruction, and now during the TE fill process I am having neck and shoulder pain. Although it has been explained to me that as I'm stretched in front, it pulls on the back/neck muscles. (Of course, my mind did go there, and I was concerned for a while.) A chiropractor has helped me a great deal, so although a massage was mentioned and sounds fabulous, I wanted to throw the idea of a chiropractor out there too.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited August 2016

    Astrid...I was waiting for a few days before I posted news about my rib / intercostal pain. I decided to take some Napoxen (anti-inflammatory) and it mostly disappeared. That was two days ago. I'm taking that as a good sign. It was soreness rather than a throbbing pain type of thing. I'm pretty resistant to extra radiation unless absolutely necessary as I am brca2+. I'm not sure if that is poor reasoning, but I am also prone to scanxiaty. Have you tried drugs for your ribs?

  • Mom2fourplusmore
    Mom2fourplusmore Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2016

    Wildtulip, I never thought about that. I'm doing the reconstruction and I could very well be holding myself differently. I have a lot of nerve damage and muscle spasms so I flinch from pain quite a bit. I didn't consider that it could affect my neck. A chiropractor would probably be a good idea. Thanks.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    Hi Qinncat,

    yes. I find ibuprofin helps a lot. the panadol osteo doesnt do much.

    I have to say it was worse yesterday. definitely time to get to the bottom of it. Almost certain it isnt chostro.as it feels so different to that. As it is not worse at night, and not waking me from sleep..no big weight drop, I'm not thinking the worst. I'm thinking strong possibility of stress fracture..or bad muscle strain??

    oh dear..I 'd like to crawl back to bed and hide for awhile quite honestly!!!

    astrid

    (will keep you posted with scan news..I know there is radiation from scans, but in the bigger picture...well...you know! sending a gentle hug your way)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    Mom, I hope you find relief from your pain! Take care. Hugs!

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited August 2016

    Mom, I didn't know you were getting recon! You have a big factor affecting your pain. Have you talked to your recon team to let them know you are in pain? They should be able to help you.

    Wildtulip, you get radiation just from being outside in the sun! Don't be afraid of getting tests for that reason. I was blasted with 9,500 grays of rads this year (normal is 5-6,000) but knew I needed to do it to save my life. You have to balance risk.

  • wam
    wam Member Posts: 168
    edited August 2016

    I got my pet results. A lymph node in my lung lit up. I didn't even know I had lymph nodes in my lung. It is off to CAT scans for me. Thank you all for your support.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited August 2016

    Fraidycat, I'm so sorry about the lymph node lighting up. Hopefully -- if it is in fact a few errant mbc cells -- whatever they put you on will zap it quickly! Let us know what the CT reveals. And not sure where you're being treated, but with UCSD not too far from you, a second opinion on your scan results and tx recommendations can't hurt. They're absolutely top notch. (((Hugs))) Deanna

  • wam
    wam Member Posts: 168
    edited August 2016

    Thanks Deanna. I will call them today! I was kind of on auto-pilot when I was in treatment. I need to get proactive. My Onc is good but too busy. Maybe they all are hard to reach!

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited August 2016

    Let us know what happens. And if you're calling today, you might wait and let them do the CT. I know too many women -- myself included -- who got to a bigger institution, only to find out there were issues with the scans or other tests done elsewhere. My bio page details some of my experience, but I had a similar thing happen when I was re-dx'd -- UCLA said the CT that was done locally wasn't really very good.

  • Mom2fourplusmore
    Mom2fourplusmore Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2016

    Dlb, I didn't realize that tests could be different at different places. That disconcerting. I read your bio and noticed you also have IDC and ILC tumors. I was recently diagnosed with both. I sent a PM if you don't mind. I'd love to talk to someone with a similar diagnosis.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    Barbe, I didn't post anything about getting tests, so maybe you intended comment for someone else?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    sorry to hear bout your node too fraidycat.

    best of luck with ct.

    astrid

  • GooniesGirl
    GooniesGirl Member Posts: 14
    edited August 2016

    Well I waited to post till after my bone scan. Looks like I have mets to ribs hip sternum and femur! I have biopsy scheduled for Monday. I will update when I know more and have plan in play!!!

    Thank you again for all the responses to my post!

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited August 2016

    So very sorry. Here's hoping for a plan that will knock the heck out of those bad guys!

  • wam
    wam Member Posts: 168
    edited August 2016

    GooniesGirl I am in your pocket for your biopsy! I am so sorry to hear your news. It is so unfair

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited August 2016

    Ah, thanks Wildtulip, it was Quinn my comment was for. We get radiation every day just being outside. In fact, just yesterday at the hospital I saw a chart that shows how much each radiation test equals being outside and getting radiation from the sun. A brain CT was the highest at equal to 8 months of being outside.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    I'm so, so sorry for your news GG.

    Having a plan and a routine will help steady the ship.

    sending gentle hugs and prayers your way

    astrid.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited August 2016

    Dear Goonie, sucks. I had to wait to post until I was sure what I wanted to say. It sucks. You are not alone, sweetie.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited August 2016

    kayb - did your vision deteriorate suddenly? i hope you get good news. Thinking of you.

    barbe - as far as radiation, I think I am forever fearful of it as I had a clavicle X-ray a few years before BC and on the same side as BC. Right after my dx, I saw an article on the brca2 gene with a diagram demonstrating one example of how the only good copy of the brac2 gene I have (it's a tumor suppressor gene) could be destroyed and they used Xray-----> cell as the catalyst! I'm of the school why add fuel to the fire. In any case, I often have symptoms that come for a few days to even weeks, then they just go away. Shortly after chemo I had horrible back pain and my MO sent me for a full spine MRI. Nothing was found and it lasted for months. My theory, I had neuropathy in nearly every part of my body from Taxol (still have in feet).

  • wam
    wam Member Posts: 168
    edited August 2016

    I need some input. My PET/CT shows nodules in my lungs and several lymphnodes in my neck and chest. I just finished treatment so it seems this doesn't bode well for me. Has this happened to anyone, good or bad? Am I Stage31/2 now...lol! I have more tests in September. My Onc just gives me her somber face

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited August 2016

    I personally have had nodes light up but have been told it's a reaction to treatment and they will settle down. Do you have a scan booked for 3 months or so?

  • wam
    wam Member Posts: 168
    edited August 2016

    Thanks Barb. I have a scan in September. I am hoping for infection or something else. The SUV was 4.9 or higher on the nodes. One nodule in my lung was spiculated. Disturbing but I still have hope. This all happened in one year and during treatment so I am concerned. Thank you for your help! I see you just had a recent shock! I am so sorry for your bad news! You are so gracious to come here and help us

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited August 2016

    Thanks Fraidy, yep the other shoe fell recently.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    Hi Barbe, I see we are sisters in birth year. I am November of 1958.

    I am unfamiliar with papillary breast cancer, and will look it up for info.

    I too am sorry you had a recurrence. Forgive me, but your info has confused me a little. Have you had a local recurrence of papillary form in the other breast?

    Have you had further spread than the local recurrence? I know it says stage 4, but when you look at the notes, (I hope!!) it is a local recurrence only?

    I'm posting to update a little on my rib pain saga.

    I had an xray done through my chiropractor, whom I was way overdue to see. She has xrays done every few years anyway, as a check on how your spine is looking, so we got rib views looked at as well.

    Today, I received the report.

    No evidence of right sided rib fracture.

    9 x 4mm oval shaped opacity is seen in projection of the left scapula/left third anterior rib, only visualised on the frontal view. On the right rib x-ray and lateral view this opacity is not clearly visualised within the scapula or ribs and therefore might be located within the left lung or anteroposterior chest wall.

    If this lesion is new, further work up with ct chest recommended.

    Well, I spent an hour looking up wording, and checking all my previous ct, xray and bone scan notes.

    Nothing mentioned about a nodule in them, soooo...I will book an appt tomorrow with surgeon(overdue for checkup..)ask for ?? As rib pain is still bad, I guess ct of chest wall, and bone scan?

    astrid


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