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  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited August 2016

    wow! I hope you feel better... It sounds like a painful thing. I am sending you gentle hugs on your way.

    Funny that you mention that. I went to PS for another fill and he was ready for another 100cc to be added until I mentioned some uncomfortable stabbing pain on top of my ribcage ( right under my right breast). He immediately took another approach and add just 50cc on each. I am now 400cc. I feel I am almost there. I keep thinking of me running my next 5k with these new breasts, and the thoughts of having them too heavy scares me. I don't think I don't want to go too mug further into the 500 or 600cc. I am going with what I see...

    Tomorrow I have another blood withdrawn ( my 2nd one) in preparation for my infusion on Monday. I hope I have all my counts where it should be.

    Has anyone been turned down to receive another round of chemo because the blood count wasn't adequate? Any tips on how to get ready for the next chemo day?

    Maya15, i am going to the hairdresser tomorrow. I need to get the final adjustments on my wig. I have lost 75% of my hair in 3 days. I think the remaining of my hair will fall by next week. By the way, I only had 1 chemo infusion so far.

    Hope, I do have the AC on my chemo regimen and IV was the adm form suggested in order to avoid interference with the TEs. I will have 4 rounds of it and then taxol for 12 weeks. I am glad you are happy with the port. Good luck with everything !

    Gentle sideway Hugs to all 😘

  • FUBC
    FUBC Member Posts: 137
    edited August 2016

    Ouch Hopefloat, so sorry to hear. I hope it gets better soon. Who would have thought these stitches could be an issue almost 2 months later

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited August 2016

    Hi girls,

    I got my blood counts today for my 2nd chemo on MOnday, and I was told my White Blood cells are below the normal ( 2.8) and the minimum required is 3.8. The doctor didn't cancel my next chemo with hopes that the numbers will change during this weekend; however, when I asked if I could do anything to improve the numbers, the response was " nothing you can do to increase the numbers because these cells die too fast and regenerate too fast too!" ... I am so disappointed at the speed of my recovery! Any tips on what to do? I read that garlic is a natural booster for WBC. Also Zinc, Folic Acid, and selenium... but the doctor are not allowing me to take any vitamins ( other than D3 and calcium) because she is afraid that they will have conflicts with the chemo...

    On top of that, my hair officially decided to fall off. I went to the hair dresser to fix my wig, and I had to leave her salon with the wig on.... I left the hair on her sink! Now I am using the chemo beanie at home ( and I sleep with it), and I will save the wig for my public appearances :) I will put a picture of my new wig next time when I have my cellphone nearby. xoxo

    This is all for today. I hope you all have a great weekend!

    Gentle hugs to all

  • Maya15
    Maya15 Member Posts: 323
    edited August 2016

    Clauclau, aren't you getting neulasta shots after the chemo? My MO says that's the only way to rebuild the white blood cells for the next chemo.

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited August 2016

    Dear Maya15,

    Thanks for coming to the rescue and for having a suggestion! I wasn't told to do anything even when I asked. I am doing the extra food and packing up the extra calories because I am under the impression that quantity was my problem; not quality of the food. I spoke with the doctor's assistant that said only time will help me to reach out to the right numbers. I looked at the initial numbers ( before chemo started ) and it dropped from 9.5 to 2.8.

    The normal range is 3.8-11 for WBC

    I know what I need to do to get my immune system to be higher. I just don't think that I will bounce back every time within 3 weeks to be able to receive another round of chemo - and this is just my second one!

    Wish me luck!

    Gentle hugs to all,

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited August 2016
    • imageas promised, here is a picture of my mom and I .
  • SPECTER55
    SPECTER55 Member Posts: 77
    edited August 2016

    What a lovely picture of your both. Thanks for posting. Gentle hugs and well wishes to you.

  • 4BoysMama
    4BoysMama Member Posts: 25
    edited August 2016

    ClauClau- you look gorgeous! It's so lovely to see the faces behind these supportive words and virtual hugs :

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited August 2016

    Thank you, Specter55. I thought I was going to cry when I saw all the hair in the sink and all over the floor,and I still refuse to shave my head... Seeing the remaining of the hair still there gives me somehow a little control of the situation, and having my mom around me during this tough time is also part of my medicine to a positive thinking. Wish you all a great weekend! :)

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited August 2016

    thank you, 4boysmama!

    That would be a great idea. Let's all put a picture behind these words of support and let's all feel good about how far we have come invluding all we have accomplished so far. Time to congratulate yourself as you are a hero !

    Xoxo brave sisters!


  • SPECTER55
    SPECTER55 Member Posts: 77
    edited August 2016

    Aw, Clauclau, your hair is indeed beautiful. I can totally understand why you feel the way you do. There is no correct way to handle the hair loss. Do whatever gives you control.

    This site has been a lifeline for me during my mastectomy. My surgery was prophylactic so, I am not facing chemo or radiation. I don't feel I have much to offer when I read the posts about the difficulties with chemo and radiation. All I can offer is a listening ear, a few kind words, and a gentle hug from afar.

    I will post a photo tomorrow. I don't have any pics of min my tablet.


  • Mom2fourplusmore
    Mom2fourplusmore Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2016

    ClauClau, what a great picture. You look so strong and healthy. Having your mother with you will help you in so many ways. My Mom is my best friend. I have gone through huge health issues in the past and my mother was my lifeline. At one point I was so sick I couldn't get up from my bed for weeks. She didn't live near me but she would call me and we would watch "Golden Girls" together and laugh with each other. It was simple but just having that to look forward together every day got me through the pain. My Mom is not in good health now so I am trying to protect her from the stress. I am her rock now. And I wouldn't have it any other way

  • FUBC
    FUBC Member Posts: 137
    edited August 2016

    ClauClau, we all know you'll look gorgeous without hair also :-) Lots of hugs to you and your mom. We know how much our mothers suffer seeing us injured. Mine left yesterday, crying...although I kept telling her I am fine. She will be back before my next surgery.

  • Mom2fourplusmore
    Mom2fourplusmore Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2016

    FUBC, I'm so sorry for your Mom. As a mother of 4 kids I can't imagine what she is going through...what all of our Moms are going through. My Mom always says "hurt me but don't hurt my kid". That's exactly how I feel. I can handle all this as long as my kids are OK. Give your Mom a big hug. I hope you both can find some good in all this mess

  • FUBC
    FUBC Member Posts: 137
    edited August 2016

    Thanks Mom2four...I don't have kids but I can only imagine what mothers feel when their kids hurts. Although my mother never broke down in front of me (until yesterday), I overheard her cry many times while speaking to my sister and telling her what was going on. This journey is very tough on those that love us :-(

  • Maya15
    Maya15 Member Posts: 323
    edited August 2016

    Clauclau, good luck for tomorrow! You look gorgeous. And such beautiful hair, I would say I'm envious except for the fact you're in the same boat as I am with losing it.

    Ask your MO explicitly why you're not getting either neulasta or neupogen shots. That's the only way to bounce back with the WBC before the next chemo, and it also helps protect you against infection. I have heard of a few women on this site who didn't get it for the first chemo because insurance requires "proof" that the WBC have dropped before agreeing to pay for it, so maybe that's what's going on (the drugs cost thousands of dollars).

  • Lunderwood
    Lunderwood Member Posts: 125
    edited August 2016

    I haven't posted for some time but I have been following our June group as everyone tries to recover from June surgeries. My thoughts and wishes for strength and healing have been with you all.

    I am recovering well for the most part although I still have more fatigue than normal. My oncotype dx score was 17 so I won't need chemo but I will continue on arimidex and faslodex injections. I am also receiving Prolia injections to combat potential bone loss due to the hormone therapy. I was diagnosed with osteopenia in December. One concern right now is my low WBC. Throughout the 7 mos prior to surgery I generally was usually in 5-7 range. My WBC the week after surgery was 6.8 but a month after surgery my WBC dropped to 3. This seems strange since I was not taking any meds the month after surgery. Hopefully this does not mean there is some underlying issue causing the WBC drop.

    On a positive note, my tissue expander has been filled to 250cc (the max for me) and the exchange surgery has been scheduled for September 29th. I am thankful it is an outpatient surgery. Somehow I missed the detail that this surgery will also result in the dreaded drains! I am definitely not looking forward to that experience again!

    I returned to work part time at 4weeks post surgery and am now back to full time. Fortunately I have an understanding medical team and with their approval I was able to resume running (slowly) on my treadmill at 2 weeks and ran my first post surgery 5k at 6 weeks. It felt so great - even though it was much slower than my normal pace. I am also doing light weight lifting and incline pushups. The tissue expander is annoying and somewhat uncomfortable but doesn't impair my activities too much. I believe part of my fatigue issue is due to difficulty sleeping - for whatever reason the tissue expander bothers me most at night. I look forward to the future when I won't have to sleep on my back!

    This group will continue to be in my thoughts.... you have given me so much support and I am so inspired by your courage and fortitude.

  • FUBC
    FUBC Member Posts: 137
    edited August 2016

    Lunderwood, Im pretty sure I was told no drains with the exchange. are your going for DEIP?

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited August 2016

    Hi Ladies,

    Thank you all for the kind words.

    Maya15, Thank you for letting me know about the insurance behind the scenes... I will definitely ask my MO if I can have any one of the drugs that increase WBC count for next time.

    FUBC, I am sorry for your mom. I hope she sees you doing so well that she will have no more reason to cry over this issue. Let us all be thankful for the opportunity to be able to take care of the disease with advanced technology, and let's enjoy our family's company to the fullest: kids, siblings, parents, partner, etc.

    I will keep you all posted when I get a chance ( assuming that I will have my chemo tomorrow and I will be back sleeping from it AGAIN) .

    Have a blessed night!

  • Lunderwood
    Lunderwood Member Posts: 125
    edited August 2016

    FUBC - I am only having an implant, I didn't have enough fat for anything else. I am also having a lift and slight augmentation on the remaining breast so there is a better match. Hopefully the drains will be in for very minimal time!

  • Mom2fourplusmore
    Mom2fourplusmore Member Posts: 183
    edited August 2016

    question for everyone. I was diagnosed in May. Had my surgery June 30th. I saw my oncologist 2 1/2 weeks later and she said she wanted to redo the OncoDX test because it only tested one tumor and I have 4 tumors. All of them were small and as of right now she thinks I only need to take tamoxifen but we haven't started it yet. I am now 6 weeks out and I haven't had a call from the Dr and I haven't had any treatment at all. This is 3 months after finding the cancer. Is this normal?

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited August 2016

    hi mom2fourplusmore,

    I would call your doctor's office again until I hear something that makes sense, or even get a second opinion at this point. I like to know what's going on with my body, and what the doctors' plans are - even if the plan is doing nothing for awhile, I need to be on the loop...

    Well, That's me and my opinion.

    Good luck girl! Keep us posted.


  • Lunderwood
    Lunderwood Member Posts: 125
    edited August 2016

    Mom2fourplusmore, my MO waited also waited until the oncotype dx results were back and also delayed so the research team could determine whether I qualified for continuation on the clinical trial. I did not resume treatment or therapy for about six weeks post surgery. My medical team were very good about keeping in contact so I did not worry about lack of plan. I had met with the MO about 2 weeks post op and at that time the preliminary pathology reports were all still on track that the tumor was a grade 1 so I knew it was a slow growing tumor. I definitely would contact your MO and discuss the delay.

  • FUBC
    FUBC Member Posts: 137
    edited September 2016

    Hey girls,

    just wanted to say hello

    how's everyone doing? I have been thinking about you all, especially about my june sisters that are going through chemo and radiation.

    Stay strong girls and enjoy the labor day weekend

    XOXO

  • SPECTER55
    SPECTER55 Member Posts: 77
    edited September 2016

    FUBC,

    Thanks for checking in. Here's my update:

    I finished filling. I am overfilled at 600ml/500ml TEs. Exchange surgery is scheduled for late Sept. Nerve pain is finally improving. Counting the days now. Initial surgery was preventative, so no further treatment for me. I too am sending love, hugs and positive thoughts to all the sisters going through treatments at this time. My guess is that they have moved on to boards specific to chemo and or radiation. I hope they know that we are thinking of them.

  • kellychameleon
    kellychameleon Member Posts: 100
    edited September 2016

    Hey - thanks for the check in. I'm doing pretty well. Surgery-wise, I'm pretty well recovered. I'm having to follow up surgery with some extra chemo that I wasn't expecting, so that stinks. I'll be done with that in December, and it looks like I will be able to do rads while on Xeloda, so I'll probably start that next month. I'm looking at February or so for my reconstruction. So ready to be done with the TEs!

  • Maya15
    Maya15 Member Posts: 323
    edited September 2016

    Hi all, I'm just back from vacation. Things are going fairly well except for the chronic side effects of chemo. I finally finished PT a few weeks ago. My MO threatened me with a scan on the other breast today, so I told her she'd better do it quickly because I'm getting ready to have it removed. I'm having the second mastectomy and bilateral DIEP recon on 9/29. That means the TE is going too, sure won't miss that. Trying not to think too much about the big upcoming surgery.

  • Blinkie
    Blinkie Member Posts: 169
    edited September 2016

    Hi gang -

    I had surgery on June 6th (lumpectomy left breast) and then radiation, which ended about 3 weeks ago. I started taking anastrozole on September 1st. Next week I go back to the clinic for a radiation follow-up to check on my healing and to meet with (my fav) nurse practitioner who works with the medical oncologist. I think it is a survivorship meeting. After that, they tell me I will be coming in every six months, seeing the radiation oncologist one time, and the medical oncologist the next.

    From reading the posts, I can see how everyone responds in their own way to their crisis. The main thing I want to do when I get energy is to get All My Ducks In A Row. By that I mean go through all of our estate planning and update everything, deal with our family heirlooms and family archives, get rid of all the accumulated junk in our house, etc etc. I'm hoping that if I get all that stuff done that I will be able to spend my time enjoying life, making art, sewing, knitting, exercising and not thinking about what I 'should' be doing. If / when cancer returns (this is my second primary) I will at least have "AMDIAR." Quack quack.


    [edit: fyi - just changed my user name to be more anonymous]

  • Lunderwood
    Lunderwood Member Posts: 125
    edited September 2016

    Hello June surgery friends!

    It's been some time since I last posted. I am almost 3mos. post UMX and for the most part back to all normal activities. I am still fighting fatigue issues but believe that is due to continuing on (as part of a research study) anastrozole and fulvestrant injections. Although the tissue expander is uncomfortable at times (mainly at night) I generally don't notice it. I resumed my favorite stress relieving activity, running very soon after surgery, but it's been a battle to get back to the pace and training level I was pre surgery. Finally this weekend I ran one of my best 5k's of the year!!!! There is hope!

    So just when it seems like my life is settling down to an almost normal feel , my exchange surgery is scheduled in two weeks. Not long ago I couldn't wait to get through the tissue expander phase and into reconstruction now I almost wish it was longer. Part of my anxiety is due to the PS decision to schedule surgery for the larger UTSW Clement hospital rather than the smaller Outpatient surgery in the building he offices. It is still planned as outpatient surgery but he prefers the hospital to allow for longer recovery time and any potential issues. That's a bit worrisome to me! In addition to the exchange I will have a small augmentation and lift to the native breast. I also dread having drains again. My PS is certain they help the healing and recovery process.

    Have any of the June ladies had their exchanges yet? Was it out patient? Did you recover quicker than your MX? How long was your exchange surgery and were you able to have nerve block for the exchange? I totally depleted all of my vacation/PTO time for MX so need to return to work as quickly as possible. My hope is to only take 3 days off after surgery. Not sure if this is realistic. The PS just tells to be sure to follow all the lifting restrictions. Any experiences that you can share? You would think I would be less anxious going into this second surgery but I seem to be going through some of the same anxiety I had previously.

    I have been thinking of all you dear ladies who are each dealing with these new and challenging issues and am awed by your bravery and fortitude! Thanks for understanding and listening!!!!

    Laurie

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited September 2016

    hi Laurie and June community,

    I too haven't been posting for awhile. I am still dealing with chemotherapy and I have been filling up the TE every 3 weeks. My chemo regimen ends in December and I have decided not to have radiation after that. I should have my exchange right at the beginning of 2017, and it will be at an outpatient clinic - so I was told by my PS.

    I have no idea what's coming next, but I will probably re visit this thread for answers. I am sorry I can't help you with your questions. Wish you luck !


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