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  • Sher0402
    Sher0402 Member Posts: 51
    edited July 2016

    I am premenopausal and have been on Tamoxifen for 4 months with no noticeable side effects except the occasional hot flash. My grandmother took it for five years staring in 1998 and she had no side effects. She actually was very helpful for me when I had concerns about taking it.

  • amylsp
    amylsp Member Posts: 188
    edited July 2016

    TTfan, I've been on Tamoxifen for almost 15 months with only minor side effects that I can tell. It's definitely hard to tell the difference between post Chemo 'permanent' SE's, Tamoxifen, and just general run of the mill menopause SE's. I have generalized muscle and joint pain, most of which was present before treatment, but has definitely gotten a bit worse. I seem to be more prone to and have more difficulty healing after minor joint and muscle injuries. The only SE I can definitively pin on the Tamox is dry eyes, which is annoying, but not bad enough to start up with the drops. I'll be switching to an AI drug come fall and am definitely nervous about having bad SE's. Won't know until I try though.

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited July 2016

    I take tamoxifen and have very few complaints. I have a hot flash from time to time, but honestly I don't notice much of a difference between "before tamoxifen" and now. Zoladex made the menopausal stuff a little bit more pronounced, but if you're post-menopausal, that's a moot point.

  • Jumpship
    Jumpship Member Posts: 305
    edited March 2019

    TTFan-I have been on Tamoxifen for two years. I do have side effects. What I want to share with you was that the generic brand of Tamoxifen can make a difference. There's a thread about that too. I was ready to give up because I couldn't see clearly. I took a break from the drug and then switched manufacturers. I still have side effects but I can see clearly! So, if one doesn't work try another one (Teva, Mylan, etc).


  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2016

    TTfan...I was on Tamoxifen for just under three years. Biggest SE for me was horrendous hot flashes especially in the day. It was awful. My ob/gyn is not a tamoxifen fan, so he did a vagina ultrasound every six months to keep an eye on things. A couple months under the three year mark, my annual pap came with with endometrial cells in the pap smear. Not cancerous, but noted unusual for a person my age, etc. He called my onc, while I was in the room and the two of them talked and decided it was time to switch over to Arimidex.

    The good was that the hot flashes were far fewer. Still have them but manageable. The bad is joint pain...a lot. I take cymbalta to help and it does, but suddeny in the last few weeks, my hips are killing me when I first get up. I haven't been exercising as much so I am hoping that is part of the problem.

  • Tresjoli2
    Tresjoli2 Member Posts: 868
    edited July 2016

    i have been on tamoxifen and Lupron for ten months. My feet hurt, especially when I first wake up. But that's it. And I

  • TTfan
    TTfan Member Posts: 176
    edited August 2016

    Thanks for all the Tamoxifen responses - I really appreciate hearing your experiences! Sounds like it is worth a try, with the hope I'm in that group with minimal to no SE.


  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited August 2016

    I am hoping some of you can help me out.

    I am a teacher involved in a summer workshop. We are learning how to prepare students for a science fair. As part of our requirements, I need to conduct my own research project. I chose to do a survey about how a breast cancer diagnosis impacts our thoughts about death and dying.

    I am hoping that YOU will help me. The information I receive will be anonymous and it will only be viewed by other teachers in the workshop.

    Participants need to be female, stage 1-3 at diagnosis, and have no evidence of recurrence.

    Thank you so much to any of you who chose to help me.

    Here is the link to the survey. It should only take a few minutes to complete. The deadline for participating is Monday, August 8, 2016.


    Survey Monkey

  • ashla
    ashla Member Posts: 1,581
    edited August 2016

    Hey we told you so.....

    Anastrozole and carpal tunnel syndrome....


    http://www.medpagetoday.com/reading-room/asco/brea...

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    im Going to wave this at my oncologist, who keeps telling me some of my issues might be due to menopause and not necessarily arimidex

  • ArleneA
    ArleneA Member Posts: 1,309
    edited August 2016

    Since we are talking about Arimidex/Tamoxifen, my five years on Arimidex ends September and October I'm due to switch to Tamoxifen for another five years. A bit nervous doing the switch because I have minimal problems from Arimidex.

    Anyone else doing the switch?

  • willa216
    willa216 Member Posts: 165
    edited August 2016

    Hi all:

    I've posted this question on another thread, so sorry for doubling up.

    Has anybody done adjuvant TCHP 12x using Taxol instead of Taxotere? I'm currently doing Taxol/Herceptin and have finished 2/12 weekly treatments. I got a second path opinion that shows the tumor size as larger than the original path stated. The tumor was 2.4 cm instead of 1.4cm so this moves me from Stage 1B to 11A. I have a very tiny spot (4mm) of secondary cancer and micromets in 1 of 4 lymph nodes but am told the micromets don't count as lymph node involvement. Given the new path report my oncs what to do TCH or TCHP - they are not in agreement and I'm confused and uncertain. To top it off, I am very sensitive to drugs and having a hard time just with Taxol/H weekly. I can't take anti-nausea meds due to potential aggravation of a suspected neuro condition so I am scared about what I hear is terrible nausea associated with Carboplatin.

    Any advice or insight would be greatly appreciated. I'm worried about the risk/benefit of adding the C and P as well as the use of P adjuvantly. Are many people doing that? What I am learning (slowly because I apparently am not so bright lately...) is that we are expected to make our own treatment decisions in the midst of all the chaos.

    Thank you for being here.

  • fightergirl711
    fightergirl711 Member Posts: 300
    edited August 2016

    Hi Willa - sorry you have found yourself here, but everyone is extremely helpful. This is a tremendously stressful time, but you'll get through this.

    From what I understand, primarily from the boards here, Taxol is better tolerated than Taxotere. There have been many good results with the Taxol + Herceptin combo:

    http://www.breastcancer.org/research-news/20140207...

    Perjeta is usually give neoadjuvantly, however there are instances where Perjeta is also offered, which complements the performance of Herceptin. It is a very good thing if you can get this drug, usually you need node involvement, but you might want to check the TCHP threads, this one is a good one:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/80/topics...

    I can't speak about Carboplatin because my MO recommended a different regiment for me, although it incurred more SEs / risks the advanced nature of my situation warranted it, IMO.

    I tend to get allergic to things, not dangerously so, but enough. With Perjeta I got a rash that was treated simply. I needed IV Benadryl and Pepcid every time I got Taxol. I also had some neuropathy. But I am on Herceptin-only now with very few side effects.

    I hope this helps!

  • Blownaway
    Blownaway Member Posts: 760
    edited August 2016

    On the news last night, there was a very short news story re hormonal therapy following breast cancer causing hot flashes and weight gain - DUH...... However, also mentioned breathing problems. I have complained to my oncologost, to my PCP and to my cardiologist who put me through many expensive tests last year. At no time did anyone suggest that my shortness of breath could be caused by tamoxifen. I just saw my onco and she is giving me a 3 month rest from tamoxifen. She said it should be out of my system in 2 weeks but my breathing has slightly improved already. I also have joint stiffness and pain (my wrist literally locked up one night and I could not move it - next morning it was fine other than the usual.

    In 3 months, she will test my hormone levels and do a bone scan to see if I can take one of the AI drugs (have had osteoporosis in the past, hence the tamoxifen).

    I guess what I'm leading up to is that the doctors want us to stay on these meds and tend to downplay the side effects. Has anyone had better health by making this switch?

  • Colleenroberts913
    Colleenroberts913 Member Posts: 3
    edited August 2016

    I have triple postive breast cancer and currently undergoing TCPH treatment. I just had treatment 3 out of 6 and am still so sick after treatments. What I wondering is, has anyone had there oncologist change their treatment plan midway through? I have a mri next week and I have a feeling they will see that the tumor is gone. I can't feel it anymore. My sister had breast cancer last year and spoke to her oncologist today about my situation and he was very surprised that they hadn't switched my treatment up.

  • Musosgirl
    Musosgirl Member Posts: 387
    edited August 2016

    colleen, my Taxotere was switched to Taxol half-way through and then, due to an allergic reaction, Abraxane. Also my Carbo was cut in half for one treatment half-way through, partiallyreduced the next time, and dropped entirely for the last.

  • Colleenroberts913
    Colleenroberts913 Member Posts: 3
    edited August 2016

    Musosgirl thank you for your response. Did you notice a difference in how you felt after those treatments?


  • debiann
    debiann Member Posts: 1,200
    edited August 2016

    Colleen, are you going back for any extra fluids? I after ending up in the ER round 3, starting round 4 I had extra fluids on day 3-4 after chemo and I felt so much better. The doctor in the ER explained that sometimes just drinking fluids isn't enough. In my case, although I was drinking a lot, the fluids were going right through me and flushing out the sodium, so my sodium levels were too low and I was still dehydrated. IV fluids worked much better. Hope things get better for you.

  • Musosgirl
    Musosgirl Member Posts: 387
    edited August 2016

    Colleen, I did. The side effects didn't change, they just weren't as bad. I think our MO's will do anything to get us to keep doing treatments, anything to keep us from quitting. And when I went to the weekly treatments on Taxol, I made a new friend, another young chemo patient like me--we are dear to each other now and it's because I switched meds and we had a weekly "date!" Also, always make sure your MO and the nurses know your side effects--there are lots of meds to counteract those

  • willa216
    willa216 Member Posts: 165
    edited August 2016

    FighterGirl - Thank you so much for your comments and links. Really helpful. I'm seeing a lot of good info on the TCHP thread too!

    Colleen- I'm sorry you're having such a difficult time. I hope you get an updated regimen in place so you can feel better. This is all sometimes so hard...

    Take good care, everyone.

  • Why2015
    Why2015 Member Posts: 38
    edited August 2016

    Still on Herceptin q 3wks, and started on Tomoxifen because I have osteoporosis. It has been a hell of a year since diagnosis in August 2015. I'm going through this process all alone, and somehow I'm getting through it. Other than a friend dropping me off at the hospital for the day I had my surgery and someone else picking me up and dropping me off at my apartment, I've taken myself to every chemo session, radiation session, infusion appointments, various doctors appointments, 4 echocardiograms thus far! Have traveled by car, train, and subway to and from some appointments. So ladies when you're feeling low and feeling down know that there are others that have to do it totally on their own and carry on. Some people said you're stronger than you think. It must be the case. I was the person who would rather be dead than ever take chemo. I found the thought of it so revolting and so frightening. I made it through, however, and you will too. Yes I have neuropathy as a result of the Taxol. Yes, it is very hard to lose weight which is very discouraging. I'm careful about what I eat, and I make sure that I keep active with walking and lifting weights. As someone mentioned the MO's will seem to do anything to make sure you go to the appointments and, I have found that you aren'treally told about how intense the side effects can be. I found that many of my questions about side effects were just brushed aside. I only recently learned how high my Oncotype is, almost 60!

    Wishing you all strength and whatever peace of mind you can find even if it's for a few minutes a day. That has to be a reason to all of this. Stay strong and be your own best advocate

  • Bird-of-light
    Bird-of-light Member Posts: 167
    edited August 2016

    Blownaway, please share the station and news affiliate so we can find the story. Thanks!

  • Blownaway
    Blownaway Member Posts: 760
    edited August 2016

    It was on ABC locally in Houston.

  • ashla
    ashla Member Posts: 1,581
    edited August 2016

    Blownaway...

    Thanks for the information. I've had issues with both the Aromatase inhibitors and now tamoxifen but I had no idea about breathing issues. I too have had them and now that I think about it..they started when I switched to tamoxifen. I've just gone through a battery of heart tests too! I've had PVCs ( premature ventricular contractions) for years. It quite common but since I went on the anti estrogens it is much worse. Cause and effect? Have no idea.

    Although I'm better on tamoxifen than on the AI's, I too have debilitating musculoskeletal problems. Can't cut or dice in the kitchen for fear of cutting my fingers off as my fingers cramp and lock up. Understand there are vision issues too.

    Feel like a marionette with all the strings(muscles, tendons) getting tangled up :(

    Gonna meet my new oncologist soon . Let's see how he sees this but I may be done.

    We're all different. I was fortunate to have had a fairly decent time of the chemo/ Herceptin/ rads.year. My troubles started two years into the hormone therapy.

    Please let us know how you're doing off the tamoxifen. And best wishes. You've certainly had a tough go of this miserable ride:(

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2016

    Arlene...I did the reverse. I was on tamoxifen for just under 3 years. A weird pap causes my onc and ob/gyn to decide to switch me to arimidex. Differences for me...


    Tamoxifen...horrendous dripping hot flashes, a lot.

    Arimidex....hot flashes but way better, a lot of joint pain, and several arthritis related conditions. Can't swear those are all due to an AI. but I had none before I started.


    Willa...I had taxol for 12 weeks with herceptin. I tolerated it pretty well. Some neuropathy in feet and finger tips....mostly they were like ice cubes all the time

  • rozem
    rozem Member Posts: 1,375
    edited August 2016

    hi my triple positive lovelies!

    just stopping by to say hello - so glad to see some of the originals contributing to this awesome thread

    I'm 5 years out this month, and although my MO always reminds me that 5 years for hormone positive BC is not "in the clear" I'm going to enjoy this milestone anyway

    thanks to all you ladies, this thread and BCO who helped me tremendously through treatment. Still on T so technically still in "treatment", come back to the site to check updated news on hormone therapy etc - so even 5 years out the information and support here is invaluable !

  • LoveOfParks
    LoveOfParks Member Posts: 2
    edited August 2016

    I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this ..... I completed 6 infusions, still receiving Herceptin and I had my lumpectomy - one margin was "close" .5mm. When my doctor called to give me the path report she said we needed to discuss if Carboplatin should be part of the treatment as well as radiation. I see her tomorrow - but I'm wondering if anyone else had additional chemo suggested after their surgery?? I am getting a second opinion as well in a few weeks. Chemo was far from fun, but I'll do additional chemo if it increases my survival and no-recurrence stats ..... anyone? Realized key information missing is that I had a partial result to chemotherapy - not a complete result.

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited August 2016

    LoveOfParks,

    More chemo was not suggested for me after surgery, but I've sometimes seen that happen to triple negatives who didn't have a pathological complete response. I always thought that was because chemo is the only systemic treatment available to most triple negatives, but who knows? Best wishes!

  • Jerseygirl927
    Jerseygirl927 Member Posts: 438
    edited August 2016

    i cant take tamoxafin because of blood clots, i had terrible side effects with arimidex, now on letrozole its better but bp is up and down so not sure if its the drug or my body? On a 2 week hiatus from drug to see if bp comes down? BS suggested another A1 inhibitors so we shall see if MO picks another. Or stays with this one. Not to many side effects with letrizole!

  • kdtheatre
    kdtheatre Member Posts: 159
    edited August 2016

    Hello all - I am new to this group, but have been enjoying the discussion and support from the Lumpectomy Lounge for the past month. I just found out last Friday that I am now Her2+. My biopsy of one mass showed as ER/PR+ and Her2-, but after my surgery - the path showed differently. So now - I am meeting my MO for the first time tomorrow to find out what the plan is. For some reason - I am so incredibly anxious and worried about this. The nurse did share that I would be on Herceptin for a year - while doing my chemo and radiation. Once my nodes/margins were clear - I thought I would be doing oncotype testing to see if I even needed chemo...so when she called and said this about my Her2 - I was sorta shock and numb ALL OVER AGAIN. Is it true there has only been one study so far about Herceptin?

    I am not worried about losing my hair - but more about getting a port and what kind of SE will I have for my stomach. I am very prone to C-Diff and have diverticulitis. I am worried the chemo will totally destroy the lining of my stomach and intestines - which is already so fragile.

    I don't know why I am having such panic attacks about this latest diagnosis change... I had been doing so well prior, but now I am incredibly nervous.

    What other things should I be prepared to ask my MO tomorrow regarding treatment?

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