Do you buy clothes, furniture, plan for the future?

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Jojobird
Jojobird Member Posts: 203
edited July 2016 in Stage III Breast Cancer

I have stage 3c TNBC and am currently in adjuvant chemo, then rads. This may seem odd, but I am having trouble thinking about the future. Should I buy, keep, or toss my clothes? We could get some furniture but what's the point if the prognosis is uncertain? I am not talking about financial recklessness, but there is a level of uncertainty that comes with this diagnosis. Anyone relate?

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  • sugarplum
    sugarplum Member Posts: 318
    edited July 2016

    Boy, do I ever! I didn't even want to buy a new pair of shoes - just seemed like such a waste. I wondered why my plastic surgeon would take the time to do my reconstruction - why should he expend the energy? I hesitated to book our vacations more than a couple of months in advance - why would my poor widowed husband want to go by himself? You know the story...

    Now from my vantage point of 10 years, I do allow myself to look a year or so ahead - and am even humoring my husband when he talks about retirement. Being superstitious, though, I'm still convinced that he will probably outlast me!

    All my best wishes as you move through the many phases of recovery -

    Julie

  • LM070917
    LM070917 Member Posts: 323
    edited July 2016

    I thought a lot about that but then I think to hell with it, no one who's how long they've got. I waited for some recent scans which came back clear and the bought myself a brand new vw golf! A kind of present to myself for everything I've been through the last year which is partly financed for 3 years. I plan on being here that long and longer.I'm not saying be reckless but plan ahead, life's for living

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited July 2016

    I am stage IV and have been so since shortly after original dx. I only hesitated to "live" for about 5 minutes. Then I thought f** you cancer and proceeded to live my life with joy. It's been 5 years and I'm still not dead 😜. My only advice is to buy travel nsurance that covers pre-existing conditions. Don't put your foot in the grave even one minute before you have to. Now, go treat yourself to something that makes you happy

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited July 2016

    I was diagnosed at Stage IIIA, not IIIC. I assume that I will be here for at least 5 -- 10 years, so I have no problem with buying new clothes, planning my teaching schedule for three years out, putting money in retirement savings, and so on. I guess I don't see myself as doomed, just unlucky to have had a big and aggressive tumor.

    Hope you begin to feel less anxious at some point!

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited July 2016

    I will be 5 years out in October. My sister, Stage 3 also, is almost one year out. We just had this conversation the other day. She asked me your same question.

    I am JUST NOW able to plan a little more, buy a little more, plan vacations etc. It took me a long, long time. HOWEVER, I was able to buy a new couch almost immediately after chemo. I spent so much time on that couch I could not stand looking at it!!



  • dragonsnake
    dragonsnake Member Posts: 159
    edited July 2016

    I buy what I immediately need.  I also start buying books, mostly poetry,  that I was hesitant to buy before my diagnosis.   

  • SusanRachel
    SusanRachel Member Posts: 68
    edited July 2016

    IIIA here. I have spent my entire life living to the max. That has not changed. I did have two very rough patches, first when I found out I was upstaged from IIB to IIIA right after surgery and second, when I read the pathology report and saw that my initial grade from the biopsy listed as grade 2 had been revised on surgical path to grade 3.

    My theory is that I could get hit by a bus tomorrow or I could be around for 40 years. If I am around for 40 years, I would be pretty mad if I got that far only to realize that I had spent the entire time waiting to die instead of living.

  • live_deliciously
    live_deliciously Member Posts: 346
    edited July 2016

    oh my. You are worth it! We all are. Please don't ever think different. Live well, laugh often, love much! At first we all go through those thoughts because it seems like doomsday. And honestly it was depressing as hell. I started buying all those things id put off like a corvette, wave runner, etc. and i started doing my bucket list. I've been fortunate to do lots of travelling and plan to do more I've worked too damn hard all my life to not enjoy so I figure I'll do my bucket list and then if I am fortunate to finish it I'll keep adding to it. I figure either the life insurance will pay for anything I bought and didn't get paid off or I'll be here to pay the bill anyway. I'm 51 and was diagnosed at 49 too damn young to give up now. We are here for you.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited July 2016

    If you stop doing things or buying things that brings you happiness, if you put living on hold, then bc wins. If you keep living with joy, until you absolutely can't, then you have triumphed. That doesn't mean you can't have down periods or be overwhelmed by the stuff that comes along with bc, butwhy stop living before you have to? I have had a rich and fulfilling 5 years and plan to keep going. What's really sad is to imagine all the wonderful things I would have missed if I stopped living when I was dx'ed

    Breast cancer has stolen bits of my body, but I refuse to let it steal my heart, mind and soul.

  • Jenwith4kids
    Jenwith4kids Member Posts: 635
    edited July 2016

    Please live. I'm 2.5 years out from a stage III dx. Just had a conversation with my onc- she assured me that I will very likely die from something other than cancer. That's enough for me,

  • BlueKoala
    BlueKoala Member Posts: 190
    edited July 2016

    My doctors all assure me I am not going to be dying of breast cancer any time soon. I'm either IIB or IIIA, but I guess I'll never know for sure because I've had neoadjuvant chemo.


    But, I could die tomorrow of something else.


    I've taken the view for the last five or so years that when I do die, I don't want to leave my family with all my stuff to do deal with, and for that reason amongst many others I became a minimalist (well, a work in progress). I only buy what is going to make our lives better, not just for the sake of it. Nothing's changing now. I'll live my life and enjoy it, and I enjoy it much more without a house full of stuff I don't need!

    One of my doctors the other day also told me (in regards to drinking wine) "we're not saving your life for you not live and enjoy it!"
  • Jojobird
    Jojobird Member Posts: 203
    edited July 2016

    Dear ladies thank you for all the responses! You have inspired me to plan a vacation after my chemo. I am so glad to hear I am not alone with this... The body changes (mastectomy, hair loss) are hard enough. So hard to know if/what to plan but I want to go somewhere tropical! So, I will forge ahead and plan.

    I am recovering from a terrible stomach bug (while on chemo-ugh) but will start looking when my energy is up. Thank you for the inspiration!!

  • AmyQ
    AmyQ Member Posts: 2,182
    edited July 2016

    Jojobird,

    It's easy to have a fatalist attitude but like Caryn said, then cancer wins so I have and continue to make long-term plans. My latest is putting in a swimming pool. I hope to be around a dozen years to enjoy it, only time will tell. But when the day comes that i know I'm on my last leg, I don't want to look back and realize I stopped living by not looking to the future. I want to look back and think, I'm glad I made these memories and had hope for the future, so please don't let cancer steal what life you have.

    Amy

  • jenni__ca
    jenni__ca Member Posts: 461
    edited July 2016

    after my 6th round of chemo my dh and i drove two states away for christmas ..... left right from chemo and got back in town 2 weeks later to do number 7 .... then finished up with 8-12 ...

    hang in there .... as dory says keep on swimming !

  • Michellelynn875
    Michellelynn875 Member Posts: 21
    edited July 2016

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    I'm going through the same thing. I'm not sure if I should be planning my future or my funeral! My husband gets upset when I express my fears. My doctors just say "live for today, enjoy everyday you have." Yet every ache or pain I have, causes me to fear the return of cancer. I also am stage 3c, grade three...

    So I do understand how you feel.

    I said the heck with it and went out, bought a fifth wheel and plan spend as much time as I can with my husband and children. Beachfront on the weekends! I'm not going to wait till it's to late and say I wish I had! Try and enjoy your life. Create memories, we all have uncertain futures, with or with out cancer.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2016

    I'm a former Stage III who jumped to Stage IV and I still live like I am living, not like I am dying. I actually researched all my treatment options, made a flowchart and came to the conclusion that my current options will tide me over until MBC becomes a chronic disease...and that will tide me over until there's a cure...and I'll ultimately die in my sleep at the age of 95.

    And those of you who are Stage III, remember you are Stage III still. Don't treat yourself like you are Stage IV unless you are. And if it does happen, don't treat yourself like you are dying unless you are. Of course, as others said, be responsible. I second travel insurance for expensive trips, keep good health insurance, make plans for any dependants (which everyone should do anyway, regardless of health status)...and enjoy the hell out of life..

  • Outfield
    Outfield Member Posts: 1,109
    edited July 2016

    Definitely I felt this way. I am now 6 years out from diagnosis, and when I think about longterm plans, like my retirement, there's still always that "if" in the back of my mind. But at some point, I stopped letting that "if" hold me back from doing things. At age 49 and 5 years out, I started training for a more specialized profession - something I've wanted to do for a long time.

    About the clothes, I'd say hold off or buy something cheap right now, unless the chemo hasn't affected your weight at all. Furniture? Depends on your finances. I myself was far too sick during chemo to have any interest in talking about buying furniture, but if that's not you and you have the money, why not consider it?

  • wrmbrownie
    wrmbrownie Member Posts: 114
    edited July 2016

    I'm so jealous Michellelynn875! I'd love a fifth wheel too!! Have fun with your family!!!

    I plan for the future. During treatment, my kiddo had an assignment (and I did too) to put a letter for him in a box thing to be opened up in 5 years. I just couldn't do it. I was so afraid I wouldn't be there (or that he'd read my fears at that time.) Now, I'm much more hopeful about the future!

  • weesa
    weesa Member Posts: 707
    edited July 2016

    In 2004 I bought a really cool, hot car--a metallic gray Porsche--and took out a five year loan. I looked at the loan application where it said it would be paid off in September of 2009 and I thought, ha ha! My husband is going to get stuck with the last few years of payments because I can't possibly last til 2009. Hope he likes the car.

    I still have the car, paid off for so many years I can't remember the monthly payments. It has taken me up and down the winding mountain roads around here, handles so well on tight curves. It has bailed me out of a couple of tight spots like the time the guy turned in front of me going the wrong way on a one way street and I grabbed the steering wheel and did an amazing quick maneuver and missed him. I have never been stuck in him, even in the snow and mud. I'm a realtor and have taken him bravely to many a construction site without getting mired in mud. He has carried hundreds of home buyers around to dozens of counties and has lots of miles under his belt.

    I have cried in him, screamed in him with the windows rolled up, and thrown up in him a couple of times. He has been thru several sets of tires and little else. However, he is starting to show his age. There was the really bad hail storm a couple of summers ago, hail the size of golf balls pretty well banged him up. I eat lunch in him every day and there is a collection of frightening food items between the driver's seat and the console.There was the day I carted my microwave to the repair place and ripped the leather seat getting the oven out, but at 12 years old, he still gives me a cool feeling when I crank him up and feel his throaty growl, and zip him thru the gears until we are going really really fast, low to the ground, stable, heavy, handling solid, like a Formula One car.

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  • Traveltext
    Traveltext Member Posts: 2,089
    edited July 2016

    Great discussion. As a diversion during chemo I undertook a carport building project, and since then have caught up on lots of maintenance and done home improvements. Two other men I know with this disease are renovating the crap out of their houses. I'm certainly aware of making x number of dollars last x number of years, and I'm prioritising things that make life comfortable and fun. I often joke with my partner about not buying such a high quality whatever since "it won't need to last that long". Someone mentioned sorting things out because you don't want to leave a lot of stuff behind regardless of when you go. I'm doing that, plus selling, giving away, or throwing out extraneous items. Probably a healthy thing to do regardless of your prognosis.

    Finally, I don't see cancer as the worst way to die now that I've lived 65 years and seen people die suddenly in accidents and with heart issues. We at least get months or years of treatment with plenty of opportunities to tick things off the proverbial buckets list.



  • LM070917
    LM070917 Member Posts: 323
    edited July 2016

    Love your story weesa! Just picked up my golf, not quite a Porsche, but onwards and upwards 😀

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited July 2016

    Right after my diagnosis of Stage III, I sorted my closet with the thought that I would just keep the clothing I needed for a little while and donate the rest. I didn't want my husband tasked with cleaning out my closet. It was a sad, tearful activity. But I ditched a lot of clothes I never wore.

    Fast forward a couple of years...surgery, chemo, more surgery, radiation, more surgery...and while I was home recovering from my DIEP recon, I became the crazy internet shopper. Never before in my life had I wanted so much to dress well and look beautiful. Jones New York, Chicos, Travelsmith, Sierra Trading Post, Zappos...it was just nuts. I bought a pair of red patent leather stiletto heels because I wanted them. (I have since named them "Perky" and "Set" because of the pain meds I was taking when I ordered them). It was a short mania, thank goodness, but I think I'm past the belief that I'll only be here for a short time.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited July 2016

    My birthday was a few weeks after my bmx. My family bought me an iPad as a recovery/birthday gift. As my older dd was pregnant with my first grandchild, I went on an Internet baby clothing shopping spree. Boy, was that fun and that baby is now a 4 year old delight

  • Jojobird
    Jojobird Member Posts: 203
    edited July 2016

    Weesa-Love the car!! Hope it brings many more years of joy to you.

    Travel text- I can so relate to home improvement! Not sure wh this is bringing out home improvement impulses but they are definitely there.

    Sbelizabeth- You go! I am all over the facial/spa stuff once this treatment is over. Hope you enjoy your clothes and stiletto heels!

    Exbrnxgrl- Babies are definitely to celebrate and shop for. So much fun, and congrats!! Enjoy the now 4 year old.


    Love the support and stories, ladies!!

    Jojo (NOT the bachelorette!)

  • sbelizabeth
    sbelizabeth Member Posts: 2,889
    edited July 2016

    There should be a "like" button here. I love the stories of hope restored.

    I was diagnosed before my DIL became pregnant. My granddaughter turns three TODAY and my grandson is one. Blessings I did not know I would see. God is good.

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  • Jojobird
    Jojobird Member Posts: 203
    edited July 2016

    What beautiful grandchildren! May they continue to bring you joy.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited July 2016

    Ladies,

    Beautiful children! Besides my 4 year old granddaughter, I also have a 3 month old grandson. If I died tomorrow, the time I have had with my grandbabies has been the best thing ever. Of course, I have no intention of dying anytime soon 😊

  • NineTwelve
    NineTwelve Member Posts: 569
    edited July 2016

    I was diagnosed at IV in September 2014. I remember a couple of months later standing in a paper goods store thinking, "I wonder if I need a whole calendar?"

    Then I went through a phase where, if I wanted something, I bought it.

    Now, I'm on a decluttering bend. Read the book about Konmari tidying. Now, I only want to see things around me that bring me joy. (A long way to go, with that, but I keep chipping away at the accumulated unwanted possessions.)

    That 2015 calendar? It was deconstructed and now it's lining my cubicle walls. (Yoga collage and mindfulness quotes.)

    As for planning my future, I was always crap at that. Nothing's changed there.

  • fightergirl711
    fightergirl711 Member Posts: 300
    edited July 2016

    Last winter I brought my kids out for an early dinner Valentine's Day weekend, of course there were many couples, maybe 20 years older than me out celebrating. I instantly thought I will never make it to 60, let alone 65 or 70, and started tearing up, trying not to cry in front of my children.

    I haven't bought anything, or traveled. I'm still under treatment. I still save for retirement. I have been going through the purging of the clothes that I never wear, or just don't want anymore. I want as little clutter as possible, but I've always been that way. My house needs improvements, but as the primary breadwinner, I worry that if something happens, it will be after my life insurance expires in 10 years, leaving my family in a lurch with a mortgage and other bills.

    Then I read posts like wessa's story about her Porche and I'm ready to say, "Screw it!" :)

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