June 2016 Surgeries!
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I also think that the radiation choice for someone with a lumpectomy vs mastectomy is very different. I don't think I would question it if I had lx nota bmx. But yes every little percent is another day or week to add and that is what drove me. As much as I hated it:) and hate how my right radiated side is.
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Maya15, that's the same explanation I got from my rad Doctor, and I have been researching about TN; unfortunately, the triple negative cancer is agressive by its nature and treated differently for several reasons. Chemo is the only way to fight back, and radiation is recommended. My doctor gave me 10%increase of survival. At first I thought it wasn't worth the trouble, but reading more about the TN and learning that it has higher chances to come back on the first 5 years, I have reconsidered my position and I am going to do everything by the book. That will put me into 2018 for reconstruction , I guess... So be it
Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and experiences about radiation
Love and prayers to all🙏💪💕
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how did your surgery go?
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Scotbird, I was just diagnosed and only have had one consult so far, who recommended 2 lumpectomies (in one surgery;the tumors are too far apart to do in 'one scoop') and radiation. However, I am worried I will always fear the cancer is in there - so seriously considering double mas (I don't know all the fancy abbreviations yet). How did they determine to do the lift? With my saggy boobs (49) I wondered if the 2 lumpectomies would make it more disfigured.
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I am abou 5 1/2 weeks out from a BMX with NS, no reconstruction (yet) and am still really uncomfortable and swollen. How long has it taken for others to bounce back
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Lollipop, so sorry to hear that you are so uncomfortable. I had my surgery 5 &1/2 weeks ago too. I had BMX w/ TEs.i only started to feel better a few days ago. My doctor recommended anti inflammatory meds such as Tylenol to help with the inflammation. I think I am adjusting to the TEs. They're still uncomfortable, but I can tolerate them better. The TEs are the main source of my discomfort so I take an Alleve daily for pain control. Everyone heals at their own pace. Check back in with your surgeon to make sure you don't have a seroma or an infection. I would think that without reconstruction, you would be up an about and healed by now. If you had radiation, that may slow healing. Listen to your body and rest. Sending you healing wishes
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KdTheater, sorry to hear about your dx. My tumor was 1.8 cm and BS suggested lumpectomy. She also said that lumpectomy with radiation is as efficient as the mastectomy. I had the same concerns as you, I didnt want to wake up one morning and hear the doctors say that my cancer is back, so for me it was a no brainer, I had the double mastectomy. I feel more at peace right now as I know the whole thing came out. After surgery, although in pain, my mental state changed for the better, my panic attacks stopped and I don't know if lumpectomy would have done the same.
You need to listen to gut feeling and decide which way you'd prefer to go. Oh and of course, no more saggy boobs after mastectomy.
Wishing you all the best
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hey all... 4 weeks out since my BMX with immediate 650cc implants and I'm in more pain now than I was the first week or two. Now that nerve endings are starting to re-energize, and my back is so knotted from not being able to sleep comfortably and bad posture from the pain of a stretched and stitched pectoral muscle....I am SO sore! Still rock hard across the chest, so muscles obviously haven't relaxed over the implants, and my sternum is constantly burning. My incisions thankfully are closed and healing nicely.... I'm still using paper tape now that steri-strips have peeled off, and will start using silicone in another 2-3 weeks, but thankfully so far the scars look thin and flat. Hoping that continues.
I just wish I could get some relief from the tightness/chest pain! I go Wednesday to get my blood work and to find out my start date/regime for chemo and expect that will commence in next 2 weeks- and it would be really nice to be feeling a bit better before that starts.
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Hopefloatsinyyc, Wow, immediate 650 implants? Ouch! I would imagine your pectorals are pretty irritated being stretched that far. They are probably in a constant spasmodic state. I'm surprised your PS didn't put you on muscle relaxers.
Just curious, why did your PS go direct to implants instead of tissue expanders? Is it because you will be starting chemo soon?
Continue to take your pain meds if you need them. Once your chest settles down, you will be able to sleep on your side again. I have TEs. I'll be sleeping on my back for the next 4-6 months.
Gentle hugs and well wishes to you
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specter55, well I wasn't a big fan of using TE's as I really just wanted to get back to feeling like myself as quickly as possible. My PS said that he would make a game time decision on whether he would have to use TE's, dependent on how my skin looked, the condition of my muscle etc.... I was so thankful that I woke up from BMX and was told he was able to go direct to implant, but wow- wasn't prepared for the tightness! There is alloderm making a hammock over the bottom 3rd of the implant that is sewn to both the bottom edge of my pec muscle and my chest wall, which is contributing to the tightness too (this is to create a nice stable pocket for the implant. I tossed my wedge 2 nights ago in exchange for a body pillow and its allowing me to sleep at a slight angle and off my back which is like heaven! Voltarin is helping some, as is robax at night... But I may ask for something stronger if it doesn't ease up this week! I think this is payback for feeling soooo good straight out of recovery those first weeks!
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Hope... I'm using a bit of vitamin E oil above and below my scar to help with the skin tightness. It might help you too?
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I wanted to use kelo-cote on my scars. Nurse said no, it doesn't make sense using it now as PS will cut me again during the exchange surgery. Any suggestion if i should use it anyway? DO you guys think it will help to make scars less visible?
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Hope, oh my....650cc. I was dying when I woke up with 120cc. You might be my hero. I had my first fill last week and that fill actually made some of my pain go away. PS said my muscles were spasming on a hard bumpy surface (TE) and the full would smooth it out. She was right. She also said the fills get more uncomfortable (aka in Dr language as cause a ton of pain) when you are at the end of the fills. That's probably your story now. I hope the pain stops soon for you. Those spasms are no fun.
Theater, I'm so sorry you are having a hard time. I too had 2 tumors. When I thought it was 1 I was going to do the lumpectomy. I immediately decided on a BMX when they found the second. A BMX is not fun. I won't lie. But they ended up finding a total of 4 tumors. They wouldn't have caught the other 2. They were too small. If I had done the lumpectomy I would have never known about the other you more. That BMX saved my life. Go with your gut. And no matter what decision you make know that you are strong. God bless you on your journey.
Everyone is going on to their next treatments. I am so sorry for everyone long paths. I am 3 weeks out from the BMX and still seem to struggle. I can't imagine crossing the next bridge yet. I hope everyone does well and are soon past this part of your life.
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I thought I'd pop on with a question for my June ladies tonight- is anyone getting any side sleep with TEs?? I have found that now that I'm out of the recliner and into a bed, I'm rolling over onto my side and I'm horrified I might "mess things up in there"?!? Any thoughts on this- my PS seemed unsure about what to say when I asked her. I am just not a back sleeper and my body is rebelling!
Hope- I am still in a lot of pain too, similar timeline- I actually felt like I was getting better and now feel like I've taken a detour. Hugs to you, I hope healing is right around the corner for you :
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I gave up on ever hoping to sleep in my side while I have these TEs. The anchor sites beneath the armpits are so painful that I don't think that area will ever get better. I'm not a back sleeper either. I take two unisom at night, but I still wake up 4 to 5 times every night. I'm so fatigued during the day that I end up falling asleep on the sofa. If it weren't for the TE anchor site pain, I would be able to function at an almost normal level. I don't want to take prescription sleep meds as they have some unpleasant side effects like sleep eating, talking and driving. I wish I could take a narcotic at bedtime. It would help m with pain and sleep, but I'm allergic to codeine (👎🏼). I've just resigned myself to this life of discomfort. Staying connected to this board helps a lot
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What to do to make scars heal quickly and well? My PS said to massage all along the scars up to 5 times a day with oil or unscented moisturiser. The idea is to encourage blood flow to the area to speed up healing. I went very lightly at first but gradually increased the pressure, and my scars have healed really well. I had LX with a reduction and lift on both sides but I think it would work for any surgery. I'm six weeks out today and am not in any pain, feel completely fine have been exercising: weights, swimming, yoga, Pilates, I feel I have my life back to normal at last after nearly 7 months of feeling rubbish. Only temporary though as I'm starting a month of rads on Tues so am expecting it to get worse again before it gets better. XX
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Scotbird, good for you? Pilates, yoga???Wow, that's impressive. I still can't bring my arms all the way up. Hoping my PT will help but I don't see them until august 23rd.I can't wait to be to that moment of feeling normal again.
I started my hormonal therapy (aridimex) last friday and my legs, especially knees and joints feel so swollen and sore. I feel like I can barely get up or walk. I read somewhere exercise will help, so I am thinking of buying a treadmill just to get my blood moving until I am ready for more exercise. I am also having hard time sleeping at night. I don't know if i can handle all these issues for the next 10 years. Maybe I should have my MO switch my therapy to tamoxifen.
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FUBC, I have read that tamoxifen is sometimes easier on women... But still can cause joint pain. Exercise us definitely supposed to help,... I too will be doing hormone therapy for 5-10 years.... Definitely not looking forward to that. Hang in there and definitely talk to your oncologist about switching if the Arimidex is unbearable! Did they say why they chose it instead of tamoxifen?
Scotbird,Unfortunately I have had a lot of surgeries in my day.... So have had lots of practice in dealing with scars. I have found paper taping as well as silicone strips have been most successful in the past. I gave formed keloid scars in the past, but when using this technique, the result was flat and almost invisible scars after a year (yes... It does take time). For me; the creams and massages didn't work as well- but every body is different.
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Hope, MO gave me a choice between Tamoxifen or Arimidex and Lupron. I chose the latter because I was told one of the SE of tamoxifen is Uterine cancer and that scared me. I have a history of fibroids so I don't want to trigger something that might be dormant.
Also last night I went through hell and couldn't sleep. I finally took an advil and I think that made me feel better but seriously I feel like I am 80 years old.
Do you leave the silicone strips on 24/7 ? How often do you change them? Do you think I start using them now or should I wait for the 2nd surgery like the nurse said? Sorry for the million questions :-)
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FUBC, I too had massive fibroids, so much so that I was forced to have a hysterectomy at 39... So uterine cancer isn't sadly a risk for me when deciding on hormone therapy, but will have to do some research when that time comes... So frustrating that what's supposed to help us makes us more sick. *hugs*
As for scars, I'm using paper tape for 6-8 weeks and will then use silicone after that. In the past, I tried to keep them on 24/7... And to not allow sunlight on it when possible (which won't be an issue this time around since these babies won't be out in public for a while!!!) as for waiting for second surgery.... It is very rare for a surgeon to use the same incision line for another surgery, since blood vessels are compromised! The incisions made for exchange surgery are not across the breast like in your BMX (from what I've read)... So her theory doesn't make sense to me. I don't think there is any harm in starting to care for your current scars, but maybe ask your PS at your next fill?
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Thanks Hope.
I decided not to take the Arimidex today. I will call the MO's office tomorrow and tell them to switch me to something else. I am having anxiety attacks, my joints are sore already and I have been taking it for 3 days only. I have hot flashes but they are not bad at all compare to the rest of the symptoms. I am hoping MO will be ok with me staying off everything for a week and then hopefully switch to something else. I guess I will need to figure out which of these hormones will work best for me. Taking them for 10 years is a long time and there is no way I am going to destroy the quality of my life completely. There is a chance the SE are due to the lupron injection, who knows...
I am probably one of the first in our group to start the hormone therapy so I guess no one knows yet what I am talking about.
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FBUC,
I had a hysterectomy in 2008 because of a large (cantaloupe sized) uterine fibroid. My doctor was concerned that it was too big to remove without damaging other internal organs. He put me on Lupron to shrink the tumor. It was horrible. The Lupron threw me into a raging menopause with the worst hot flashes ever. I was absolutely miserable. I would wake up drenched in sweat. It was so bad I had to sleep on a beach towel. My doctor gave me low dose estrogen to ease the symptoms but it was still pretty bad. I've been on HRT since. I've tried a couple of times to wean off of HRT but the symptoms are just as aggressive as they were then. I know the HRT could have played a part in my precancerous tumor , but I couldn't tolerate the symptoms. Now that I have had a MX, I guess there is no need to stop it now.
Lupron is very strong. Will your doctor provide you with something to relieve the side effects? This is not an easy decision to make. Arm yourself with information. We're here to support you, whatever you decide. Gentle hugs
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SPECTER55, You might totally already know this trick but my nurse the first night I was in the hospital passed it on to me so I thought I'd share. There are two types of Unisom (blue gel capsules and blue or orange tablets) one is doxyalamine succinate and the other is diphenhydramine. She recommended I switch each night, gel capsule one night, tablet the next and on and on because it helps prevent the build up that makes them less effective. It works really well for me and I don't get that sort of hangover I used to get after more than a few days on one type
The armpit TE sites are what bug me the most when I wake up accidentally on my sides- holy moly it's like a hot poker right in my skin! You'd think all that hair I still can't shave would give me a cushion
Hugs!! (And sweetest dreams)
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Scotbird- I forgot to add this in my last post- has your PS offered you any "BioCorneum"? I used the silicone strips after my first biopsy because the scar was really raised and painful. It's a silicone gel that has the same molecular structure silicone but in this sort of creamy gel that is really easy to apply. It has SPF30 but I don't see these scars seeing the sun anytime soon
I find it a lot easier to deal with than the strips- so I wanted to mention it. It wasn't horribly expensive and I'm happy with it so far
Good luck to you!
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4BoysMama,
I did not know that about Unisom. Thanks for the info. Going out to the drug store today to get both versions. The only way I will get through this is to treat it like my last trimester when I was pregnant. I was uncomfortable and couldn't sleep then. My skin was so tight and my muscles (utters) kept contracting. Only this time, it's not a boy or a girl. This time it's twins!
Lol! Stupid auto correct! I meant to type uterus, not utters! Kind of ironic though
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I have never taken unisom... Does it just knock you out to sleep, or does it also reduce pain? I'm so sensitive to pain meds that even taking 2 Advil makes me groggy but then I wake because my back is so sore and my muscles are in spasms... It's why I am now trying robax with ibuprofen but I'd be game to try something else if recomended!
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Hopefloatsinyyc,
Unisom is an over the counter sleep aid. It's not a knockout drug, it just makes you drowsy enough to fall asleep.
You say Advil knocks you out, so you take ibuprofen? They are the same drug, one is a trade name and the other is the generic name.. The chemical structure of the drug is the same.
I'm taking Alleve. I only take one a day and my pain is controlled all day. Naproxen is the generic for Alleve.
Be careful not to take both Alleve and Advil/Ibuprofen as they are both non-steroidal anti inflammatory (NSAIDS). Taking too much can cause kidney damage.
Robaxin is good for muscle spasms and does have a side effect of drowsiness.
I hope this info helps.
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lol yes, I know ibuprofen and Advil are the same... Sorry for my poorly written post! I meant to say that at night, robax with ibuprofen has been my go-to since it knocks me out and helps (a bit) with the muscle soreness.... When I was taking daily pain meds, I was taking strictly Advil (ibuprofen) but I was always tired from it all day.... Now I don't take anything during the day and just the robax at night (it's a combo pill that contains both.
I was hoping there was some better cure out there but wishful thinking! Ha.... I do have to say that stretching now that my incisions are all well healed has helped A LOT! Even in the last 24 hours I feel an improvement... Hopefully this isn't just a temporary blip of relief, and I'm actually starting to see the light in this chapter.
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Hmm Specter, you really made me think about Lupron. I am suppose to take a shot every month. I am not taking my dose of arimitex today. I am going to do more research on all my options and maybe consider hysterectomy and stick with tamoxifen.
The symptoms just cooled down, I only feel the hot flashes right now as I type, but totally tolerable. I didn't think I would have such issues with the hormones I am taking especially Lupron. I have taken a lot of hormones during IVF treatments and never had issues, although I wasn't responded to the IVF injections at all, meaning I couldn't produce more than my own monthly egg thus never made it to retrieval.
Anyway, since I had fluids leaking from my incision, the horrible pain I had on my right side has cooled down tremendously. Today is the second day I haven't had any norco or NSAIDs, which is great as I have been able to go to the bathroom normally :-) The new stitches I got last Thursday hurt a little bit, but again totally tolerable. The right side still looks bigger or swollen than the left.
I wonder if you girls are still hurting due to the fills. If all goes well, I should have my next fill this coming Thursday. I hope the pain wont be unbearable again. I still have nightmares from what I went through last month :-(
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Thanks for the info 4BoysMama. I've not been offered Biocorneum and haven't had any silicon or paper strips either. My scars are doing OK so I'll prob just keep going with the massage and moisturiser but will ask about these other things when I see the PS again. Hope everyone's starting to feel much better and able to get some rest. x
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