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Mom2twohomeschoolers
Mom2twohomeschoolers Member Posts: 9
edited July 2016 in Just Diagnosed

Just got the call today - it's positive for infiltrating ductal carcinoma in my right breast. The words "small" and "slow" were used, but really won't know more til appointment next week. Of course the emotions are going chaotic right now but what seems to rise even higher than the fear and worry is the guilt I feel because:

1) This is terrible news for the whole family, not just me. My two young children are going to have a really hard time emotionally, especially since my mother died 2 1/2 yrs ago to pancreatic cancer (yes, I know, way different diagnosis). I am sure all the husbands also go through a very difficult time with worry. I hate that I am the cause of all this sadness in my family.

2) This is going to put such a stress on the family, in terms of time and scheduling. I homeschool my two children and the thought of potentially having to go through 5 weeks of daily radiation, which means 2 1/2 hours a day due to travel time, is really stressing me out. How will I ever be able to keep up with giving my children the education they need?

3) Lastly, but also weighing very heavily on my mind, is the financial side of it. No, I am extremely blessed and lucky in that I went through my county health department's BCCP program (Breast, Cervical Cancer Prevention), which means they will be covering the costs. A HUGE weight off my shoulder in one way, but on the other hand, we live in a very poor rural community and there are many people living here under the poverty line, without health insurance. I am only one, yet I am using a huge portion of their funds (ok, I am assuming here, but probably very likely). I hate that I am taking so much from my county's coffers when I know how little we have.

I do want to end on a happier note. I am glad I have joined this forum. Already reading through the many many posts has made me feel a bit calmer for the immediate future. So so many have been through this, it's almost mind boggling. I am looking for support and people I can talk to while still maintaining my privacy and some sense of dignity in a very small town where news spreads fast.

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  • Mom2twohomeschoolers
    Mom2twohomeschoolers Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2016

    Wondering if this pit in my stomach will ever go away. Terrible night sleeping last night, almost threw up, my stomach is tied in knots. Had the stereotactic biopsy 4 days ago and the incision site is painful (no other symptoms). All I keep thinking is they messed stuff up while in there and made it worse. Ever since my mother died I have become more negative and now I am sooo worried I won't be able to get out of all the negative thoughts. I believe very much in the power of positive thinking, but not sure how to get there. I know I wrote my first post late last night, but I sure wish someone would answer back; I am so not ready to tell people in my "real" life.

  • ElaineTherese
    ElaineTherese Member Posts: 3,328
    edited July 2016

    Hi!

    I'm sorry to hear about your diagnosis. However, to me, small and slow sounds awesome (probably because my tumor was big and rapidly dividing). You seem to be a planner who is trying to fit cancer into her already busy life. Yes, cancer will affect the others in your life, But, remember that it is very treatable, and if you're Stage I or II, your prognosis is very good (especially compared to pancreatic cancer -- my uncle was just diagnosed at Stage II, and only 50% of those diagnosed at his stage will be alive in five years).

    Please don't feel guilty about getting your medical care covered. All of us who have cancer do drive up the costs of medical care in our local pools. My employer covers my health insurance, and I'm sure that I'm considered a heavy user of services. But that's why insurance and BCCP programs exist -- to be there in the event of an emergency.

    You also sound very anxious -- have you considered asking a medical provider for anti-anxiety meds? When I have a hard time sleeping because of anxious thoughts, I pop an Ativan. I don't use it every day, but I feel better having some on hand in case I need it. As the ladies here say, "Better living though chemistry."

    A thought about long drives to radiation and home schooling. Maybe, you can buy some audiobooks and listen to them as a family on the way to receive treatment. I love audiobooks, and they've been a life saver for my daughter, who has learning disabilities.

    ((Hugs))

  • Mom2twohomeschoolers
    Mom2twohomeschoolers Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2016

    Thank you Elaine Therese. I did just put a call into my nurse navigator to request something to help. I won't be able to function like this (although I am sure it gets a little calmer). I also love the idea of the audio books. This would be great with history subjects. I will definitely go check out what they have at our library. Thank you for replying. I feel such a need to connect with others and hear other positive stories, but am so not ready to tell anyone I really know (other than family).

  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited July 2016

    It is the MOST difficult time right after diagnosis but when you don't have a treatment plan.

    It will get better when you at least know exactly what you are facing.

    Sending my best to you and your family!!

  • Mom2twohomeschoolers
    Mom2twohomeschoolers Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2016

    Thank you Denise. I just checked out your blog and read the first article on anger. Wow. Only Day 2 for me and I can see it. I don't want to be angry b/c I know anger destroys and I want to LIVE! I will keep your blog in my favorites and look through it some more. Thank you for reaching out.

  • dtad
    dtad Member Posts: 2,323
    edited July 2016

    All of your emotions are 100 percent normal. This is by far the most difficult part of the whole process. I promise you will feel better once you have all the facts and a treatment plan. From what you know so far your prognosis seems very good. As you said nothing like pancreatic cancer, but sorry for the loss of your mom. So for now try to stay busy and surround yourself with people that make you happy. Also do not hesitate to ask for medication to help get you through the beginning of this journey. Good luck and keep us posted. We are all here for you...

  • Lisey
    Lisey Member Posts: 1,053
    edited July 2016

    I was told that breast cancer and Pancreatic cancer have a link with BRCA... make sure you get tested for genetics, especially since you are so young. (I'm young too). Also...if you do end up being a stage 1, make sure you ask for the oncotypedx test. My insurance covered both the DNA testing for BRCA and 15 other genetic markers for BC, as well as the oncotype. (when that came back intermediate) I then asked for the mammaprint, which I will be paying for apparently.. but it's worth it to get a clearer picture of the tumor and if chemo is needed. Being young is a negative, but small and slow is a positive.

  • cive
    cive Member Posts: 709
    edited July 2016

    The BCCTP program is a federal program, so your county gets help from them. No reason to feel guilty because you will get the care you need or for getting bc. It isn't something you chose, you just got "lucky". Furthermore, you don't have to do, figure out everything at once, just take each step as it comes and you'll figure it out. The BCCTP program has been a quality of life saver for me and I don't feel guilty about that, just grateful.

  • hummingbirdlover
    hummingbirdlover Member Posts: 421
    edited July 2016

    Hello, I just wanted to offer support as I know how scary and overwhelming things are in the beginning. Try to take it all one day at a time and know you're not alone

  • Englishmummy
    Englishmummy Member Posts: 337
    edited July 2016

    Ugggh. I feel your pain and I remember all those feelings - fear, guilt and sadness, we have all been there. I am a 42 year old homeschooling mumma to 3 and I am also a little over a year out from a bilateral BC dx.

    Schooling at home puts another spin on this horrific ride but it IS possible. I went a slightly different route than it appears you will take (I did BMX, no rads) but it knocks you off schedule which ever way you go.

    We school year round with a one week break every 10 weeks but when I was dx last year, we took a month off as my surgery was only 10 days after my dx. I knew exactly what I wanted to do and the stars aligned with the BS and PS. However during this time, my children did read, practiced piano and studied their foreign languages every day but that is just a habit they have grown up with - I know all homeschoolers are an eclectic group and we all follow different courses:) 2 weeks after my bmx we were back in the school saddle full swing; I just couldn't lift my arms above shoulder height so they helped me a lot, with everything - they loved it! Children are amazingly resilient: do not be afraid (or feel guilty) that this will have a lasting effect on your children, from my own experience my 3 gained a lot of new skills - my son is now an expert vacuum-er (seriously, he does perfectly straight lines, far more meticulous than I have ever been), my eldest daughter now cooks and my youngest loves doing laundry. I never realized how much they are capable of and had this not happened it may have been a long time until I saw the light. They are more cognisant of what needs to be done without being nagged (I am not good at nagging, I'd rather just do it). All in all, I can look back and say it was a growing experience for them, and a very positive one. As hard as it is don't let the sadness creep in, I know you'll try to be strong and when you can, you can but when you can't - you just can't and that is A-ok. We had lots of cuddles, hugs and kisses.....the best medicine ever!

    I think I read your children are young so missing a few lessons/hours/days of school is NOT going to mar them in the big scheme of things. The great thing about HS is you can dictate when you do school: you could choose to skip school whilst you do rads, do less school, different kinds of schooling (work books vs. unit studies), make a lighter schedule and catch up later (if you really feel you should), do easy things like reading and narration, learning multiplication tables in the car (you'll be insane by the end but they'll likely never forget them!!!) and as Elaine mentioned audio books are always brilliant. Use the flexibility that HS provides, you can do it however you need but most of all, don't stress about it.

    Be kind to yourself - take time to relax, nap, snuggle - and just know, as far off as it seems now you will get to place of calm... hopefully, they'll fill your meds quickly;)and you'll arrive there even faster! I feel like a different person a year out. I lost my spark but it is coming back and many say brighter than ever - your children will be just fine - you are an amazing, caring mum. I still have not told many people, and I doubt I ever will. I don't want everyone knowing so don't allow that to add to your stress - it is very irrelevant. I did not even tell everyone in my husbands family in fact less than 10 people know including family. I chose that and I understand that it is different for everyone (BC.org members are also beautifully eclectic:) you will find your own sense of peace as things progress; most likely once you have a treatment plan in place and you begin to feel a little more in control. At that point, perhaps you could try some affirmations to help you with your internal dialogue - I know that helped me a lot, still does. We are all here for you.

    Lastly, don't feel the least bit guilty about the funding/money side of things...it is highly likely that if that money in the BCCP programme were not used, it would be cut so I would say you are befitting those who will follow you. If the money is used it will likely be replenished or increased. Regardless, you need the care they are providing, do not feel guilty, not one iota! You are worth every penny and more in that programme.

    Feel free to PM me if you want to chat about schooling and how to fit it all in or anything else:)

    Hugs, blessings and light.

  • twintwin2
    twintwin2 Member Posts: 54
    edited July 2016

    I too remember the overwhelming feeling of fear and panic when I first received my diagnosis of IDC.  That's all the doc told me, no info on size, aggressiveness or anything.  I felt lost and alone.  But soon enough you will get more information and have a plan in place and you will begin to feel a little less scared and more prepared to deal with this. I was diagnosed last month at the age of 42 and will be having surgery next week.  The wait has been excruciating but in the meantime I had genetic testing done which fortunately came back negative. I have a great nurse navigator who I never hesitate to call anytime I have any concerns or questions and that has helped a lot.  I too am not ashamed to say that Ativan has helped me sleep at night and there's no shame in asking your doc for it during this stressful time. Please know that you are not alone and that your feelings are normal for your situation. Wishing you all the best.

  • Mom2twohomeschoolers
    Mom2twohomeschoolers Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2016

    Thank you for your kind words and support. My appt is tomorrow to go over a plan so although I am nervous, I am ready to talk and get moving.

  • Mom2twohomeschoolers
    Mom2twohomeschoolers Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2016

    Thank you all for your reply. Since last week I have gotten a prescription for something to help with the anxiety. It is very mild, which is good for me, but it has stopped the jitters and allowed me to finally eat again. I have also been very busy, not only with trying to get all the paperwork necessary for the financial side, but also with family obligations. Got to take my son to state competition for 4-H presentations this weekend and he brought home a bronze medal, so that was a really wonderful distraction. I go to see the doctor tomorrow for "the plan". Rather nervous, but ready to get this thing going.

    To Englishmummy: thank you so much for all your thoughts on the kids and homeschooling side of it. I know that I worry way more about their feelings. I too underestimate their abilities sometimes, but you are right, they are strong and resilient and will help me. We are already a very close-knit family and I am sure this will only bring us closer. Although I said young, I guess in my mind they are still young, they are 9 and 12, and we too homeschool year round (6 wks on, 2 wks off). Luckily this year I have done a good job setting up a schedule in the computer and with a little training I am sure they will be able to do their studies more independently. Your words really helped me and I hope maybe we can "talk" some more throughout this experience. Thank you.

    I guess I should also clarify, I am not "young" either. I am 47, just waited til later in life to start a family. No biggie on that, just wanted to put that straight.


  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited July 2016

    Mom2two - praying for the right plan to be in place for you!!!  It will get better once

    you have that PLAN!!!

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited July 2016

    We all feel your pain. It's unanimous. We have all been there, done that and some of us are still doing it.

    I agree one day at a time. You have unanswered questions. It is the most difficult time of the process. You will be amazed how quickly it moves along once you know what your DX is.

    I was braced for the DX so not totally surprised when I was told I had the C word. I kind of moved around in a daze until I completed my radiation treatments months later.

    I don't have young children but I did have my 26 old son at home at the time. He took it really hard so I had to keep my game face on. The only time I really cried was when I got my Oncotype score. It came back@11so I dodged chemo.

    I will be 5 years out next month. Lots of survivor stories on this website. It was my lifeline from the start. BC doesn't define us. Just a bump in the road.

    Keep the faith.

    Diane

  • Mom2twohomeschoolers
    Mom2twohomeschoolers Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2016

    Thank you Diane! I, too, hope that I will be able to look back years from now and see this as just a "bump in the road." At this point, that is my deepest wish! Thank you for reaching out and I am so glad you are doing so well.

    Thank you too, Denise for the prayers.

  • msphil
    msphil Member Posts: 1,536
    edited July 2016

    sweetie things will calm down after treatment plan in effect i and most of us know what your feeling been there i too hah ativan to calm n sleep. But 4 Inspiration im now a 22yr Survivor Praise God. msphil idc stage2 Lmast chemo and rads and5yr s on tamoxifen.All while planning our wedding.

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited July 2016

    Momtotwo, Please don't feel guilty. It's not your fault you got breast cancer. You're not using up too many community resources--that's what they're there for and I'm sure you would never begrudge someone else using them. Be kind to yourself.

    As for homeschooling the kids, I get it. I homeschooled mine, too.  I wasn't going through breast cancer or radiation at the time, but I did have a rough 3rd pregnancy. I remember being so sick, lying on the couch while my 8yr old read his books aloud and my 1yo played at my feet.  And then after the baby was born he was very handicapped. We had 3 years of doctor and therapy appointments, sometimes 4 per week.  My kids took their work with them--we called it "road-schooling".  It was TOUGH, but we got through it and I bet you will to. Let the kids be as independent as possible in their work. They will rise to the occasion, I'm sure.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited July 2016

    Remember, community resources that receive government funding are not handouts and there is no reason to feel guilty: after all, you’ve paid for a good bit of them through your taxes. And everyone pays taxes--even if you don’t make enough to pay income tax, there are still sales & excise taxes, license & permit fees, property taxes (if you rent, your landlord passes some of the cost to you). And the community is investing in you--making sure that you stick around, get well and remain a productive member of society. You are certainly saving your state and local gov’ts a bundle in educational costs by homeschooling your kids. This is a two-way street, and a win-win in both directions. This is a functioning society at its best.

  • Mom2twohomeschoolers
    Mom2twohomeschoolers Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2016

    Thank you for reminding me ChiSandy. You are right. I once did some math on this because we used food stamps for a while. I tend to be a bit more conservative in my financial beliefs and this was a hard pill to swallow, but when I did the math, it showed to me that we were actually saving my state about $8,000 a year by homeschooling, while still using gov't assistance in food stamps. And, to top that off, I have been a very active member of my small community, volunteering hundreds of hours in trying to keep people informed. I started a hyper-local citizen journalist website where I went to all kinds of open gov't/community meetings, filmed them and posted with a written article to help and encourage those who could not make meetings to stay involved and informed. I only stopped at the beginning of this year after 5+ years of doing this with no compensation b/c I wanted to focus more on the family.

    So, thanks for knocking a bit of sense back into my mind. I also plan on writing a huge, although anonymous, letter of thanks to my health department and to the various large groups that make donations to our local BCCP program. Ok, enough said about the guilt, moving on to more important issues!!! :)

  • Mom2twohomeschoolers
    Mom2twohomeschoolers Member Posts: 9
    edited July 2016

    So, I had the appointment with my nurse navigator and the surgeon yesterday and we have the "plan." I can gratefully say that none of the terrible fears I had came true. It seems pretty "cut and dry" if there can be such a thing. Lumpectomy, radiation and hormone suppressing meds later. You all were so right and your advice, and not to mention the the meds I got, were helpful!

    I am soo thankful there is a local program for people with no insurance. I used to have it, but years ago, when it rose to over $500/mth for both my husband and myself, there was just no way. I am sure many of you understand the fear that you live with that something terrible will befall you and the system will just leave you to die. I do live in a very small rural community, where almost half the residents live in or near poverty and 20% of the county are on food stamps alone. Having a program such as the BCCP is a life-saver, God-send, however you look at it.

    A huge contention in our community is tourism. We have no industry left anymore and the leaders have hesitantly accepted that tourism is our avenue to economic stability (we live in a most gorgeous, awesome natural area), but there are many local old-timers that want nothing to do with it, even verbally outspoken on how things were better before the outsiders came in, wanting to change everything. I even read one man state they didn't need the charity of these groups.

    I am here to personally argue against that. Without the huge donations some of these groups (car and motorcycle) we would not be able to support these great programs, that really, so many of us women that live here depend on, natives, locals, and transplants alike. I have been able to get annual paps and mammograms b/c of this program and that was why this was caught so early. I will most definitely be writing some thank you notes in the near future!

    I wanted to let you all know how grateful I am we have this place to "gather" and help each other. I am not feeling guilty anymore and therefore want to stop writing under this heading. I am moving on! I am looking forward to checking out some of the other discussion boards and articles. I want to wish all of you the same love and encouragement that you have shared with me. There are a couple I will most definitely be getting back to - your stories really hit home with me.

    Thanks again to you all!

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