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  • tsoebbin
    tsoebbin Member Posts: 474
    edited July 2016

    It will be! Thanks FUBC!

  • Kawigirl1260
    Kawigirl1260 Member Posts: 60
    edited July 2016

    Good Grief, Traci, you're having quite the experience. Call me if you need anything! Still sending up positive, healing thoughts.

  • Maya15
    Maya15 Member Posts: 323
    edited July 2016

    Oh tsoebbin, another surgery! I'm so sorry...

  • Mom2fourplusmore
    Mom2fourplusmore Member Posts: 183
    edited July 2016

    tsoebbin, my one side didn't stay in either. The left side did fine. When they took out the drains the left side was long. I kept telling them that the right side was sore and it bothered me. When the nurse took it out she said it was barely attached and that's why it was bothering me. I don't know but maybe if they listened to me they could have fixed it in the beginning. But that side was producing more and they still took it out now it's swelling....hmmmm I wonder why? I'm sure it's because of how much it was producing. I'm just hoping it stops and absorbs. I don't want them to do anything else on my body. I'm done for a while. . I hope you do great and feel better.

  • Mom2fourplusmore
    Mom2fourplusmore Member Posts: 183
    edited July 2016

    clauclau, I'm glad they said the same thing to you about the other cells. Did you also have more tumors with different pathologies . I have mixed types and multifocal ( means that I have more then one tumor.) I'm glad you had the mastectomy too. Having that mastectomy absolutely saved my life. If I had gone with just a lumpectomy I would have missed the other cancers. I'm sure you would agree in your case too.I do not regret for a second having this surgery...however I do regret the stupid tissue expanders. I think they are the worse decision I've ever made.

  • tsoebbin
    tsoebbin Member Posts: 474
    edited July 2016

    mom2four... How much was yours producing when it came out?

  • Mom2fourplusmore
    Mom2fourplusmore Member Posts: 183
    edited July 2016

    it was in the 40s. The other side was down to 20. I was shocked that she took both out. She told us they would need to be down below 40. The only think I can think is that because I've been so sick she thought maybe that might help. Who knows what these Drs think.

  • tsoebbin
    tsoebbin Member Posts: 474
    edited July 2016

    I hope yours absorbs nicely!

  • silviah
    silviah Member Posts: 46
    edited July 2016

    I need advice....

    Since my diagnosis(june 8) - I broke down in front of my husband once and he said he didn't know how to act around me. So - my break downs now are when I'm alone. He's been a big goof ball since I've known him (30 years)...and it's totally elevated now.....to the point of annoyance. We don't sleep in the same room... I can't sleep in the bed since my surgery. He's always his phone - texting or googling. When I try and talk to him, he clams up. I totally get that BC is a lifechanger...not just for me..but for all of those around me too. I even understand if he just doesn't have the capacity to deal with this.

    Is this normal or am i over reacting?

  • FUBC
    FUBC Member Posts: 137
    edited July 2016

    silviah I hate to say this but it's not normal. When I was dx, my husband and I were separated but he came by my side, came with me at every appointment, he was around 24/7 calling doctors, hospitals Etc. He was cooking, he was cleaning my drains etc. And if and when our divorce will become final, trust me it won't be bc of my BC. If anything, I am the one that wants it more at this point than he does.

    I'm sorry for being blunt and hope I'm not hurting your feelings. You should tell your husband to learn how to be by your side during this difficult time.

    FYI, we'll always be here for you if you need to talk or vent. I had my share of venting a few days ago :)

  • silviah
    silviah Member Posts: 46
    edited July 2016

    FUBC....I love blunt... THANK YOU!!!!!! He has gone/taken me to every appt... I still can't drive. I will try again to talk to him.


  • Mom2fourplusmore
    Mom2fourplusmore Member Posts: 183
    edited July 2016

    a good friend of mine is a hospice Dr. She and I have talked about this very topic a million times even before I found out. One of the biggest challenges she faces is the families response to the news. Some people can't handle the information and if you throw it at them they will shut her down and not trust her. So it's a very difficult situation to judge when to say what to whom. I was very ill about 6 years ago. I really should have died I was that sick. My husband seemed cold, distant, and callus. When I got better this bothered me immensely. I mean how can you watch someone die in front of you and not care. If you met my husband you would say he's a great guy. So why didn't he show me he loved me. And now with BC he literally starting shaking and cried. My friend told me that seeing me like I was before was too hard and he had to shut down to protect himself . She said she sees that response a lot . Your husband could be scared and he knows he can't fix this and that is scary . You know your husband. If he's a selcentered selfish man then you need to find support besides him. You need to take care of you. But if he's a good man then you may want to consider what my friend says. Good luck and I'm always here if anyone ever needs an ea

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited July 2016

    Silviah, i just saw your post now. I don't know the dynamics of you guys as a couple but he might be telling you the truth when he says he doesn't know how to react around you.

    It's definitely not an easy issue to be around whether it's a kid, a husband, a patterned, a friend, a relative...

    I have been blessed surprised by the amount of support from my husband and my closest friends; however, my father never said a word about it. Not even to wish me good luck on everything... It hurt my feelings and I vented out with my daughter's adhd psychologist . I am ok with that now.

    So I guess my advise to you is that you suggest your husband to look for a couples therapy to help you both to cope with this emotional roller coaster together.

    Good luck to you!

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited July 2016

    Mom2four, my drains were around 25/30 when they were pulled out on Thursday 7/14. My PS said it would balance out to remove all drains and fill them at the same day. That explains why I had my first fill at the same day.

    So far I am ok. Today I removed the bandage during my shower to clean the place where the drains were and put some Neosporin. Everything is fine without signs of swelling.

    Different doctor, different procedure. I hope to share some information to you so you can bring to your doctor's attention if you feel it fits to your situation.

    In regards to the cancer cells, I don't have the written pathology test yet. The doctors normally break the news to me and I receive the paperwork a week later. Anyway, I can't remember the names and types of them, but you are right about my decision on surgery. There is no regret at all for doing a DMX.

    Now I am curious, why do you think the TE was a bad decision?


  • Mom2fourplusmore
    Mom2fourplusmore Member Posts: 183
    edited July 2016

    clauclau, I really didn't want them to begin with. Everyone kept saying I was too young and doing only one surgery is so much better and it really wasn't bad. They said it only made the first couple days a little more painful but that's it. That hasn't been my experience at all. I had nasty muscle spasms for a week and I know I traumatized my kids from screaming. I can't take pain meds at all so I had no relief. Now that they are not spasminh I still hate them. I feel like they are cement bricks inside of me. When I lay down I wake up with pain on my rib cage from the pressure. They pull, they cause pressure, they make my skin stretch and cause a stinging feeling. I HATE them. I don't care if I'm flat. I was never huge and this seems ridiculous to me. I have 4 kids I mad that I'm losing my time with them because I hurt. I just know I would be fine by now if I didn't have these dumb things in. I'm just angry at myself for not listening to my own instinct. Most people aren't like me so my Drs just wanted me to have all my options. I get it but I should have listened to my instinct. Grrrr,

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited July 2016

    Dear mom2four, I am sorry you are going through all these personal pain. Of course I understand your situation because I have the TE too. I thought the the same about the 2 cement bricks LOL. I just don't hate them ( at least not yet) and I didn't start from an objection as I think you did.

    I hope you feel better and the TE brings a better result to all of us ;)

  • Hockyparnt
    Hockyparnt Member Posts: 17
    edited July 2016

    mom2four

    I started out with they said a very small 0.4 tumor which then led to a 2.3 size tumor on the second lumpectomy so when the margins were not clear on that one I opted for the mastectomy. My pathology came back with more tumors and other pre cancerous on that side as well as potential cancerous on the other side. I was prepared for the onco test to come back aggressive as well, but fortunately it did not. It actually came back as a 7, VERY low, so now I don't need chem or radiation. There is still hope don't give up. Best to yo

  • SPECTER55
    SPECTER55 Member Posts: 77
    edited July 2016

    mom2four and clauclau, I think everyone has second thoughts about the reconstruction process because of the TEs. I've had several surgeries and always bounced right back. It's a lot easier having something removed than it is having a foreign body left in place. Today marks one month since my surgery. I am in no way feeling great, but each day is a little better. I could live the rest of my life flat if I had to, but I'm hoping reconstructed breasts will help me emotionally recover. These TEs are indeed awful, Im trying to stay positive. Hang in there ladies

  • Maya15
    Maya15 Member Posts: 323
    edited July 2016

    The TEs are horrible, mine is like a cement brick but it's not even round, it's lumpy. And I got the painful muscle spasms again after my last fill, and there's another one on Tuesday. But they're temporary, no? The final implants or flaps are much softer from what I've heard.

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited July 2016

    Maya15, you are absokutely right. TEs are supposed to be temporary. My PS said it takes 2 surgeries to finalize the process after the TE implant. I am assuming that we all have the same gummy bear implant with the port type, so here is what I know about it:

    1- The liquid can go horizontal and forward. The goal is to expand the chest area as much as possible ;

    2- There will be gaps not filled up and it's normal because we don't have the fat tissue inside. These are considered flaws that will be fixed by the fat transfer from your abdomen, dorso or butt on the second surgery;

    3- There are some appealing surgeries that can go along with transferring fat from your own body in contingency with the TE procedure such as abdomen ( you can get a tummy tuck), and the butt ( you can get a butt lift). The flap dorso seems to be the one with less recovery, but some people complaint you may be limited from movements around your arms....

    4- getting fat from your own body seems to have several advantages, but you will have more recovering than implants only.

    Ladies, it is all I know. Hang in there and trust your intuitions of what's best for yourself. Talk to your PS and good luck!

  • SPECTER55
    SPECTER55 Member Posts: 77
    edited July 2016

    Hello ladies,

    It's been one month since my surgery and I am finally starting to feel like I will survive this experience. I'm excited for those of you with TEs for reconstruction. Please stay connected to this thread and let us know how your exchange surgery goes. I think I'm going to be okay

  • silviah
    silviah Member Posts: 46
    edited July 2016

    I talked to my husband. He totally responded in a good way. I have always known that communication is SUPER important, I guess in the midst of all this BC crud - I forgot that!!

    I start chemo on July 29th - I'm glad I got this out before that!!

    Thanks for everyone's suggestions and support!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Mom2fourplusmore
    Mom2fourplusmore Member Posts: 183
    edited July 2016

    I just can't seem to get better. I have the worst headache ever along with stomach pain. I can't move my head. I can't figure out why I'm just so sick. The Drs say it isn't from the mastectomy and TE but all I know is that 3 weeks ago I was hiking and biking and painting my house. If I'm not holding up now I can't imagine how I will ever make it through chemo. The thing is that it takes a lot to bring me down.


    So I just talked to the nurse at the Drs office. Apparently I am going through withdrawal from the scopolamine patch. I've had too much medicine in my body and because they gave me so much and then took it off and then put me back on it and then back off. The medicine gives me blurred vision and now I'm shaking, vomiting, massive headache, and severe cramping. It's nasty. And apparently I get to do this until all the medicine leaves my body. Of course it's not typical but I keep telling these Drs I can't take much medicine. A little bit goes a long way. This has been a nightmare. I don't even drink or ever take drugs. I don't even take over the counter medicine. I can't believe I'm living this on top of the mastectomy.

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited July 2016

    Good morning ladies,

    Yesterday I had my first cycle of chemo. I was very scared although I knew I was very much prepared for all the possibilities that a chemo can bring to us. Luckily my oncologist nurse was great on every aspect of the process: from finding my best vein to making sure I was calm and had evrything in place. She sat down with me to explain the drugs injected and the possible side effects.

    Maya15, you asked me my regimen and I didn't know for sure. Here it is: I got the C+D for now and I will have the same combination 1x every 3 weeks (4 cycles total) ; then I will have 12 weeks of Taxol alone every week.

    Mom2four, I really feel what you are going through, and I am really sorry that you are feeling this way. I didn't want to say this but I will say it to you: we know our bodies better than doctors. You got something that you need to address to get better. Don't give up on yourself. This is how I feel, so please don't quote me on that. I would keep look for remedies to my pain whether it's through traditional or alternative medicine. Try to see an acupuncturist, for example. I don't know your location, but here in San Diego, CA - there is an alternative oncologist in town that I was given the phone number in case I needed. I put it somewhere, as I don't feel I need it but I can try to find it if you need it. Let me know if you would like to reach out to him. I am sending you tons of wishes for a good and speedy recovery. Hang in there, girl 😘😘

  • Clauclau
    Clauclau Member Posts: 88
    edited July 2016

    Silviah, I am glad you can cross one issue from your list! Good luck on your chemo, and chins up!

  • Maya15
    Maya15 Member Posts: 323
    edited July 2016

    Mom2four, that sounds horrible. Actually, what you're describing sounds worse than chemo. I hope you get this stuff out of your system soon.

    I'm just back from my third TE fill. I was expecting it to be very painful because the last one was, but it was the weirdest thing: it felt great. Like a weight was suddenly lifted off my chest and I could breathe deeper. And it actually looks like a breast now (round, as opposed to lumpy!) and looks good in a bra or t-shirt. I'm now filled to capacity (300cc), but they can be overfilled and my PS wants to do one or two more. I finally feel like I can live with this until the flap surgery at the end of September.

  • SPECTER55
    SPECTER55 Member Posts: 77
    edited July 2016

    Maya15, that's great to hear that your fills are not so bad. I had my first fill today. I'm having some awful neuropathic pain over my breasts. Even light touching is so unpleasant it makes me cringe. I hope this goes away. I'm going to pick a prescription for Neurontin. The needle was so creepy. I don't know how I will get through this process. The actual fill was not bad. She only filled 50ml. I have 500ml TEs with 300ml filled during surgery. The extra volume does feel better. It's like this tight internal bra is filling out. I'll be glad when I can fill out my tops again

  • 4BoysMama
    4BoysMama Member Posts: 25
    edited July 2016

    Hello ladies, I hadn't added my name to the group but I had a bilateral mastectomy with TEs placed on 6/21 and I'm 4 weeks out today. I had a few hiccups along the way- I woke up with no feeling in my left hand and after tests by the anesthesiologist it was determined I had a nerve injury in that arm. I have near constant pain on that side now and I'm being told to "just wait a few months, it should resolve". I think this pain, coupled with the fact that I still am having a very hard time sleeping comfortably- is really wearing me down. I'm trying to stop the Norco I've been on and all of the sudden I feel like a crazy person. I have intense bouts of anxiety and hopelessness and just rivers of tears. Maybe it's the meds? I was hoping anyone could share words of wisdom. I really appreciate it

  • SPECTER55
    SPECTER55 Member Posts: 77
    edited July 2016

    oh my 4BoysMama! I'm so sorry to hear of your complications. Nerve injuries can be temporary or permanent. It could be due to swelling or actual damage to the nerve. Only time will tell. Your surgery is still pretty fresh. I had my surgery 6/17. Yesterday was my first normal day. I am learning as I go through this process that a Mastectomy is a major surgery. Our bodies do go into a bit of shock.

    I doubt that you have a dependence on Norco after only one month. The emotions may be a natural response to the trauma your body has been through. If you are facing chemo and radiation, your strength will be challenged an tested. This is a big deal. Ask your doctor if there is a support group for mastectomy or breast cancer patients. Psychotherapy is not unreasonable either. You may be demonstrating an emotional response to your physical perception of pain. Maybe an anti anxiety medication may help as well. One thing I know for sure, EVERYONE here on these boards is so caring and supportive. Give yourself time to heal. I'm at the point where each day is a wee bit better. You have permission to go slow. It's not a race. Hugs dear sister

  • FUBC
    FUBC Member Posts: 137
    edited July 2016

    4boysmama, so sorry to hear about your troubles. Consider taking anti anxiety pills. I know how you feel about the painkillers etc. I try to cut down also although all doctors tell me not too...a few nights ago, I had another panic attack and grabbed 1/2 lorazepam which helped me calm down. Also, like Specter said, consider psychotherapy. At the facility I am getting treated, there are therapist that deal only with cancer patient. See if you can get to see one. Maybe PT will help also.

    I hope you find some relief soon. Keep us posted.

    Silviah , so happy for you. One less problem to worry about :-)

    Specter, 300 cc at surgery, ouch and lucky you. I only got 120 cc at surgery and my fills are going pretty slow. I read others in this board that say "low and slow" is best, but how long will it take with "low and slow". I would like to have the exchange surgery within the next 3 months.

    Maya, how did you get to 300 cc so fast? How many ccs did you get with every fill? Am I the only one going to slow?


    Edit: I forgot to tell you ladies, I have had some leakage from the incision of right breast in the past 3 days. Somehow the pain has gotten better also. I am a bit scared as to why the incision hasn't fully healed though. I hope I won't get an infection. Has anyone else experienced leakage from their incisions?

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