Just Diagnosed - I don't think I can do this

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TeleMiriam
TeleMiriam Member Posts: 14
edited July 2016 in Just Diagnosed

I have breast cancer.

Reading those words makes me sick. I don't believe it. I don't understand. There was no lump. I had a routine mammogram and ultrasound. I was told it was nothing, benign. I didn't need a biopsy. I could just wait and see. I'm not a wait and see person. After the biopsy, I was told I had nothing to worry about.

But I was told yesterday I have cancer.

I am 43. Four years ago, I had a stroke. Last year, I had emergency back surgery. Six months ago, I had knee reconstruction surgery. I was finally starting to feel "normal again." That lasted four weeks.

"You need to be positive. If you aren't positive, you will die."

"Everything will be okay. I promise"

"Everything happens for a reason."

"This is just another test."

I don't believe any of that right now.

I don't have the strength to fight. The pain is just too much.

The world is different today. I don't feel part of it.

MRI is Friday. Meeting with surgeon on Friday. Getting a second opinion with another surgeon on Friday too. BRCA gene test yesterday. I know it takes three weeks. I want a double mastectomy regardless. And if the prognosis is poor (stage 4 - less than 2 years), I will refuse treatment and travel until I die.

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  • DaraB
    DaraB Member Posts: 945
    edited July 2016

    TeleMiriam, I'm so sorry you're here and going through this, but know there are so many people to support you. I'm older (64) so know the decisions you're facing are different, but know that there are so many here who have been right where you are and are doing well. I empathize with your history. Beginning when I was 40 I've now had 3 hip replacements (yes, 3 even though we only have 2 hips), a knee replacement, shoulder reconstruction, and most recently a total foot reconstruction with metal plates, screws and joint fusion, and after 3 months non-weight bearing, it has now fallen apart and needs to be redone. Then I got my breast cancer dx. I too had the genetic testing, which I still haven't gotten results of, it will be almost 6 weeks when I get that back. Also awaiting my onco test to see if I need chemo first or "just" 6 weeks of radiation.

    I have a dear friend who was diagnosed at age 35,stage III, had bilateral mastectomy w reconstruction, chemo, radiation, and just celebrated her 5 year anniversary! I know whether and what treatment to do is a very personal one, but please know, this site is a tremendous help and support for whatever you go through. Please take care. Dara

  • HuskerFan
    HuskerFan Member Posts: 85
    edited July 2016

    TeleMiriam, sending big hugs to you. I am also 43 and was diagnosed in April. I still find it hard to say "I have cancer." It just feels so foreign and surreal. I Always kind of figured I'd get breast cancer as I have some family history, but I never dreamt it would be at age 43.

    You can do this. It's all very overwhelming in the beginning. I had a BMX 6 weeks ago and am going through reconstruction. I still cry, there's still fear, it's still sucks, but you can do this.

    Good luck to you.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited July 2016

    TeleMiriam-

    We know it's a difficult thing to process, especially in these first weeks. But just know that you are not alone, and while it's seems hopeless right now, you can do this. This community is here to support you, and help you through this. Sending you positive thoughts!

    The Mods

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited July 2016

    I was diagnosed at 41 in January of this year. I didn't feel a lump either. It was my first mammogram ever. What I have found through all of this, is that everything is doable. You will worry, feel like your going crazy, cry your eyeballs out, go through depression but I'm telling you that with some support, it's all doable. Prayers for you!

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited July 2016

    TeleMiriam, it is a shock especially at your age. We are here for you!!

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited July 2016

    TeleMiriam, great list of platitudes there. Forget 'em. Fight? You don't have to buy into that metaphor if it doesn't work for you. Just take it one step at a time. You are in the worst part right now, with all the unknowns. It may not be as bad as you fear. Whatever happens, it is not hopeless. Count on us to help you. I see two things already that you have going for you: You are being honest about your feelings. (You don't have to be "positive".) And, you made it through those other things, so that means you can do this, too.


  • justmetoo
    justmetoo Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2016

    I was just diagnosed today, I don't know the stage yet but I do know I'm bigger than what ever prognosis I get next week. I'm 45 and have a 8 year old son that I will fight for every day I wake up. When I sat in the room today I noticed that I'm not in this fight alone, the room was filled with women of all ages and races. Today I finally found my voice. I have breast cancer, breast cancer does not have me. I'm sorry your going thru this but your not alone in this. I'm only a couple of hours in it. Stay positive, be prayerful and Fight for your life

  • HolaSandy
    HolaSandy Member Posts: 85
    edited July 2016

    Telemiriam and justmetoo, I'm so sorry that you find yourselves here. I remember that terrified feeling after just being diagnosed. I am 32 and we were a month away from our wedding, 2 weeks away from the 9th anniversary of my brother's death, and we have a 2 year old. Needless to say, it was very overwhelming. You are allowed to feel like your world is falling apart!! Focus on taking it one step at a time. Do what you need to do to get through the days: cry, pray, eat ice cream, write, whatever! I still refuse to refer to this as "my cancer." I will never feel like it's mine or a part of me. Wishing you all the best as you navigate this road!!

  • solfeo
    solfeo Member Posts: 838
    edited July 2016

    Hi Miriam - You have received a lot of great responses, but there is one thing I would like to add if I can think of the right words to express it. Everything you think you know about breast cancer, and how you feel about it, and what you think you can handle when you first hear those words? That all changes with information and time. It changes in different ways for different people, but the one thing that is almost guaranteed is that you will feel differently about all of this as time goes on, as you learn more. You don't have to decide everything based on how you feel during this initial shock. You put one foot in front of the other and make one decision at a time, and then you take what you learned and apply it to the next decision. As you find your way through this process you will learn you are a lot stronger than you thought you were, and on those not so strong days, there will always be someone here to be strong for you. Lean on us. We have all been there.

  • MS08
    MS08 Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2016

    We can do this together! I'm so glad I found this community. I am 41 and just got diagnosed last week as well and am currently recovering from a lumpectomy for a malignant phyllodes tumor. I am very numb emotionally, but I am sure I have been given this challenge to make a difference some where on this earth. I love helping people. Miriam we CAN ALL do this! Let's all try to enjoy our lives and be here for eachother. I'm going to eat ice cream right now because that makes me happy. Blessings and love to you all! One day at a time with ice cream. ;)

  • Sjacobs146
    Sjacobs146 Member Posts: 770
    edited July 2016

    TeleMiriam, so sorry that you have been diagnosed with BC. It's the club no one wants to join, but the best people are in it. Everyone here has been in your shoes, so you'll get expert advice. All I can say is to not write yourself off yet. Take one step at a time, until the docs see you and the testing is done, you don't really know what you're dealing with

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited July 2016

    I agree! I gained a few pounds eating ice cream every day. That was my reward to myself for getting through the day without crying lol!

  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited July 2016

    I like ShetlandPony's post. You don't have to buy into all that rah rah stuff or promises everything will be okay. Not a Debbi Downer just a realist. No one knows what the outcome will be despite all those testimonials. Good for anyone doing well since their DX. As a matter of fact I'm one of those people. 5 years out next month but that's me. Not saying you shouldn't be optimistic but as Shetland said one day at a time. Hearing other women's success stories didn't do it for me either.

    Your feelings are your own. Doesn't matter what anyone thinks of those feelings. You don't need validation. They can't change your DX. We all drew the unlucky card.

    I kept my game face on most of the time so my family, especially my youngest son, didn't see the fear I had battling this disease. I confided in friends who were going through it or had gone through it. I saved my anxiety for them. They understood.

    I will say this website was my lifeline. Nowhere else can you go when everyone is here for the same reason. I have established friendships here and we do chat about other things other than BC. After all it doesn't define us or you.

    Good luck. Keep the faith.

    Diane



  • msphil
    msphil Member Posts: 1,536
    edited July 2016

    sweetie i was 43 when diagnosed God kust sent my 2nd hubby well we were planning Our wedding when diagnosed had so many feelings also But Praise God am now a 22yr Survivor my Faith n Positive thinking got me to this day. msphil idc stage 2 0\3 nodes Lmast chemo rads and 5yrs on tamoxifen. God Bless Us All.

  • TeleMiriam
    TeleMiriam Member Posts: 14
    edited July 2016

    Thank you everyone. It's taken me a while to respond because I am still in shock. I still keep saying "I don't understand" and "How is this my life now?" I still don't feel part of the world.

    I hate that we are all a member of this awful club. I am so sorry to read about everyone that is newly diagnosed. But I am grateful for the support.

    My MRI results showed a localized tumor. Actually, it didn't show the 7mm mass or anything else - just the clip from the biopsy. The biopsy removed a bit of the mass but obviously the cancer is still there. That's my fear. If the MRI didn't pick up the cancer, how can I be sure there isn't other cells there? I know there isn't answer.

    I want a double mastectomy. A lumpectomy has been recommended but I can't do this again. I know a mastectomy doesn't make me cancer free for life. Risk of recurrence is still real regardless. I know about the complications from a mastectomy. A close friend had so many complications it took three years for all her surgeries to be complete.

    I am lost.

  • VLH
    VLH Member Posts: 1,258
    edited July 2016

    I'm so sad for you, TeleMiriam. You've already dealt with so much. This all still feels surreal to me and all the irreversible decisions are so daunting. I'm having a bilateral mastectomy on Thursday and I'm completely unprepared because I've been paralyzed by depression. This is a great group and I know you'll find advice from experience, not textbooks, as well as empathy here.

  • grainne
    grainne Member Posts: 245
    edited July 2016

    i wish i could think of something to say that would relieve the pain and isolation. All i can say is nothing you are feeling is unique to you . The entire world shifts on its axis when you get your diagnosis. I don't think it ever can shift back. There is a new normal for each of us. You will adjust. There is help. Your seering honesty reasonates with us all and i am grateful for it, although it is painful to read. At the risk of giving way to cliche, your enemy at the moment is despair. This moment will pass. I will be thinking about you. I feel this is a very inadequate contribution to this thread but i wanted to let you know that we are listening.

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited July 2016

    Telemiriam, all I can do is think back to just a few months ago when my own journey started. Don't get me wrong, when I see so many women that started stage 1 with small tumors with high ER and PR, her 2 negative like me, diagnosed with stage four later on, it scares me!!!! Many of them had mastectomy AND chemo (which I didn't have), and still ended up stage four. Just remember that it's okay to be angry and cry your heart out. I did and I still have days of crying from worry and stress. I went with my breast surgeon and oncologists recommendations. I can't look back and keep questioning - it will drive a person insane. I feel like I've been stressed so long, that now it is almost over - I'm scared! I start tamoxifen this week after hysterectomy that took out everything AND ovaries. No more follow ups for 6 months after MO checks on me 5 weeks after tamoxifen to see how I'm reacting to it. Our lives will never be the same again. I broke down crying the other day because told my husband I'm tired of feeling miserable with the treatments, surgeries and all AND working full time also. Some days I STILL feel lost😢. HUGS!!!!

  • dragonsnake
    dragonsnake Member Posts: 159
    edited July 2016

    TeleMiriam, I felt exactly the same three month ago, and still feeling the same way. I do not understand why I stepped on the conveyer of the standard treatment knowing that one step  will lead to another. Just like you, I was struggling with health issues for the last three years, and was finally on the mend, even started working full time, and than I had a routine mammogram. I wanted to walk away from a biopsy, but my husband begged me to do it (or so I convinced myself). After the biopsy we found out that the Schrodinger's cat is dead.  I felt that my life as I knew it ended, and a different one has begun.  The thing is,  we are not in control of our lives. We do not know the purpose of our life- many generations of philosophers and religious thinkers struggled to answer this question. Some people live for others (kids, spouses); some truly believe that this is a trial, an obstacle, and take a resolution to fight it;  some have faith;  some have hope. Faith is a blessing upon a human being. Those who have faith have the easiest time dealing with whatever life throws at them. Hope is the hardest to deal with. No matter how dire the circumstances, deep inside we have this blind  hope, and we cannot sever the ties that hold us here. The thing is, we were not asked if we wanted to be born in this world, and the sad truth is we cannot leave on our terms either. One wise man said that we leave this world when our task here is accomplished, however, this task is unknown to us but may only reveal itself long after we are gone. The only thing we can try doing is choosing what feels right   every time we are given a choice. We can try minimizing the amount of treatment offered to us, and  we can try to accept the consequences of our choices.  There are so many unknowns in this disease, that we feel powerless. We beg the universe or pray to God for the most favorable outcome for the given   circumstances.  If you are like me, all these advices of antidepressants, counseling, and real-life support groups may not work. However, this site is somehow different: we yell for help and scream with pain, send a message to nowhere,  and somehow out there another human being receives our message, and rushes to help a complete stranger. Some just listen, some relate, some educate, some provide medical advice, some guide you through treatment, and you do not feel lonely anymore. They offer what they have with open hearts and compassion. They are willing to be there for us and hold space for us. I do not know if the pain of this diagnosis will ever go away, but for some  reason unknown to us we have to live.  And if we have no say in it, let's try navigating these treacherous waters to the best of our ability and without giving ourselves hard time.  

    I can also relate to you desire to do a double mastectomy. After two lumpectomies that failed to produce clean margins I'm scheduled for a bilateral mastectomy this week. Both 3D mammogram and MRI failed to produce a conclusive diagnosis  or the extend of the disease for me.  I do not know in what world I'll find myself after waking up.  Maybe, there is an infinite number of universes out there , as proposed by some hard-core theories,  and we experience them this way.   

  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited July 2016

    I was 53 and in the best shape since I was in college. I couldn't believe it. The world was crashing. I had a ton of appointments Breast surgeon, MRI, plastic surgeons. I had no family history, my mom couldn't believe it either.

    That was a horrible time, it got so much better. Cancer was removed I did DIEP and took hormone therapy. I did not do chemo that was recommended. I felt like a coward but my mind was saying no to chemo. Now I'm fine at 58.

    You are at the worst time, it gets much better.

  • grainne
    grainne Member Posts: 245
    edited July 2016

    how are you doing? We are all still here, thinking about you. I have been rereading the posts on this thread. You have provoked some very powerful and painfully honest responses. I am halfway across the would but i feel those of us posting here now are sharing something special. Please keep posting.

  • kb14372
    kb14372 Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2016

    I feel your pain and confusion. I was diagnosed with DCIS of the right breast in June and met with the surgeon and radiation oncologist shortly after that to discuss lumpectomy and radiation. In the meantime my Dr. ordered an MRI of both breasts which turned up 2 suspicious areas in the left breast that were biopsied just this week. I got the results on Thursday and they are both IDC Stage 1, Grade 1. To say I'm in shock is an understatement. Now the conversation has changed from a simple lumpectomy to a bilateral mascetomy and reconstruction. Have not talked to either the surgeon about this nor to a plastic surgeon, just my Doctor. Surgery was tentatively scheduled for July 25 but that was just for the original lumpectomy. I don't know what I should do. Should I opt for 2 lumpectomies (one for the 2 IDC's and 1 for the DCIS) or just go with the bilateral mascetomy and reconstruction? What's that like? My doctor says no radiation or chemo should be needed as everything is stage 0 or 1. No lymph involvement suspected.

  • Maya15
    Maya15 Member Posts: 323
    edited July 2016

    So sorry to hear about all of you to be newly diagnosed.

    Kb, that initial shock at what you are suddenly faced with is really terrible. I too went from discussing lumpectomy to mastectomy and then double mastectomy when scans showed something on the other side. The first thing to do before deciding is to have a new consult with your breast surgeon with the new diagnosis, and get their recommendation. If the 2 IDC aren't close to each other, they may tell you you need mastectomy. With 3 areas, they might also worry that there are more (tiny) cells that don't show on the scans. Knowing what your options are makes it easier to decide. I was told I needed mastectomy on one side and could choose between lumpectomy and mastectomy for the other side. I didn't see the point in being left with half a breast to terrify me for the rest of my life, so I opted for BMX and reconstruction.

    Reconstruction is a long process usually involving several surgeries. I was surprised how good the results can look, but you do lose sensation. I would start looking into the options for reconstruction to see what you would want if you end up going for mastectomy. Where are you being treated?

  • TeleMiriam
    TeleMiriam Member Posts: 14
    edited July 2016

    Thanks everyone. It's been hard to me to even come back to this site even though the words of support and encouragement mean a lot to me.

    I just finished a huge successful project at work and I should be celebrating, going on vacation and getting ready for my next assignment which was suppose to be Hawaii. But instead I am planning for surgery. The MRI was clear and didn't show anything else. But I know that doesn't mean that much as the test is not 100 percent. Even though the tumor is small - 7mm I decided to have a bilateral mastectomy with reconstruction to reduce some risk - although I really believe with my horrible life luck it will recur anyway.

    Surgery is probably in a month.

    I am convinced I am going to die. Not eventually but soon.

    I am a mess right now. I want the pain to stop.

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited July 2016

    Telemiriam, it sounds like you really could use some help. You sound completely overwhelmed, to the point that it's taking over your life. I would strongly recommend you seek out a counselor to help you process this experience and take back your control. Right now you don't have a plan, so it's too early to know whether you're going to die. You have a very small tumor in there. My money is on NOT dying.

    If you haven't called your doctor yet, you might want to do that. You might benefit from having some medication to help you cope with this. A lot of us here have needed that bit of assistance. Best of luck to you.

  • Lilyn
    Lilyn Member Posts: 282
    edited July 2016

    Telemiriam must love poodles is right u need to see your family doctor and ask about an anti anxiety med just to help u get through this difficult time. I was diagnosed eight years ago with bilateral breast cancer that was Her2 positive. I can remember exactly the disbelief and fear u are feeling. You will need to go one step at a time, surgery, any treatment needed, and u will get through this. U will look back like I am now and feel "wow how did I get through that time of uncertainty" but u will! Lots of hugs and support x

  • twintwin2
    twintwin2 Member Posts: 54
    edited July 2016

    Telemiram, I agree with the others. You should ask your doctor for a little anxiety medication to help you think straight during this stressful time. It helped me so much as I near my surgery date. You have a tiny lump in your breast that will be removed and treated. Although the mind wants to go to dark places try to remember all the women and men who are going through this with you now and who are going to beat this. I too should be on my vacation now and I know waiting for genetic testing stinks. Life certainly can throw you a curve ball when you least expect it but please know that you have a lot of support from all of us.

  • dragonsnake
    dragonsnake Member Posts: 159
    edited July 2016

    TeleMiriam, I just did a bilateral mastectomy, and anxiously waiting for the results of the pathology. I also have this feeling of doom. I was struggling about the choice between a single and double mastectomy right to the moment when anesthesiologist knocked me out. I asked my surgeon (who favored a third lumpectomy) if I was doing the right thing by choosing a double. He hold my hand, told me that it wasn't too late to reconsider, and that he would do what I would  ask him to do. He then looked at me and said that I thought about my choice for a long time. I woke up without two breasts.

    TeleMiriam, you will find the answer. At a time of my previous health crisis doctors pushed antidepressants on me, and these drugs did not agree with me. My mind and my physical body rejected them. Then  I was heavily sedated to stop continuous shaking that presented like a panic attack that never stopped. Sedatives put me in a deep depression. Counseling was a joke. Those measures may work for someone, but they didn't for me. I used the power of my mind to diagnose and resolve health issues, one a time. You need to be yourself at the time of crisis. You need to stay sane, and be tuned to your body and mind. You are doing exactly that. You summon all the courage to approach it rationally and you take one step at a time . That's a lot.

    I also see myself as an outlier, and I do not believe in my good luck. All my life I had to struggle much more than anyone else to achieve ordinary things. I also have had low-probability events turning my life upside down. I've been told that I did not deserve what I've accomplished. Every event in my life was accompanied by all possible bad side effects. Yet somehow I'm around, and this means that  I have to take another step, make another decision, do something for people around me. We do not live on our terms, and we do not leave this world on our terms either. Sensing our mortality, especially at the time of crisis, is what makes us human. You are staring into abyss. Many close their eyes, and turn away. I do not know how this thing will turn out for you. Statistics is meaningless. You just do what you have to, and let it be what it will be.

  • grainne
    grainne Member Posts: 245
    edited July 2016

    telemiriam, you are in a very bleak place. At your stage, all of us felt doomed. A diagnosis is like being touched by a cold finger. Some days i felt like cancer walked with me like a shadow wherever i went and i just couldn't escape it. I am telling you that so that you know feeling doomed does not mean you are doomed. It just means you have had a horrible shock and are reeling from it. It will get better. You have a tiny tumour. Your mri is clear. With a bit of luck, most women walk away from breast cancer. You've clearly had a lot of health problems but has your life really been all bad luck? You seem to have a very successful career. Have you told any friends about your diagnosis? You talk about tests not being 100% accurate. That is not just breast cancer, that is life. Get your surgery and treatment over and take a practical approach as if they are one of your assignments. Assess the evidence, consider the advice. Master your brief in the time you have got before surgery and don't be swept along by panic into taking a hasty decision. Please believe what every one of the women above are telling you.....this does get better.



  • ecehamm
    ecehamm Member Posts: 6
    edited July 2016

    You sound like me. Mine was, 3.2 cm. I'm having pre-op for my port this Thursday and I get my port next Monday. I'll receive my first round of taxotera and Cytoxan next Thursday. As soon as I typed taxotere in information about a lawsuit for permanent hair loss popped up. Of course I freaked. I was raised men like hair hips breast and thighs and I'm about to lose a few of those. Not exactly what I wanted to hear. You see my divorce was just finalized July 2015. I really haven't picked up the pieces to start recovering from that. Feb 26th I was chaperoning my daughters school field trip at a basketball game and a drunk man fell on my head. My C5 and C6 are herniated and my L4 and L4 are bulging. I also have alotta discomfort in my right shoulder. My general practice found tumors in my uterus on the MRI one which has been described to be the size of a babies head and possibly cancerous bcuz of the size. I followed up with my gynecologist and during my routine mammogram a spot was found on my breast. On my 45th birthday May 26th I had a partial mastectomy and about 3 lymph nodes removed due to invasive ductal carcinoma. Doctor didn't get clear margins so June 2pth I underwent the surgery again. I'm still in shock and struggling with everything that has happened to me. I have very little faith, which had pretty much diminished due to losing my husband, now this. Most days I'm depressed and feel so alone til I don't even worry or care about dying.I have four kids youngest 14 and the oldest 24. I haven't worked since May 25th.ive exhausted my PTO and I didn't have short term disability. I did have cancer insurance, but missing 3 paychecks has already a lost depleted that. Hopefully I will be able to return to work Aug 1st. My oncologist says the taxotera and Cytoxan are just a mild chemo and that I should be able to work through it. I'll have it once every 3wks for time. I'll also have radiation and hormone therapy. What was chemo with these drugs like for you? Please share with me anything you can I would really appreciate hearing it. Thanks and Belessed.

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