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  • tsoebbin
    tsoebbin Member Posts: 474
    edited July 2016

    I had my lumpectomy in May joined this group. Then joined the June group for my June 29 mastectomy. And then joined the July group because I had emergency surgery on July 2 to stop a bleed.

    I'm grateful for having your posts to read in the hours when I could not sleep. The setback if the second surgery slowed my healing a bit but I'm stronger today vs. yesterday. Every day is a different experience.

    I received good pathology news and I'm grateful and recognize my blessings.

    The drains are a struggle, but part of that is because I am so overweight. I think if I was in better shape it would have helped. One is still putting out red/brown blood and the other 2 are clearee. Ugggh. Surgeon appointment on Tuesday.

    I'm fighting the iron bra feeling, remembering my correct posture and relaxing those muscles. Making laps around my small yard, glad it's not too hot here right now.

    Sending healing thoughts and gentle hugs to all of the may group. 😘

  • sensitivehrt
    sensitivehrt Member Posts: 359
    edited July 2016

    I still lurk and check in on everything going on. I had my BMX on May 6th. Went back to work June 19, work wanted me to take the full 6 weeks off to heal.  I opted for no reconstruction and have done well for the most part.  Just found out last Tuesday that my Oncotype score is 30, and the MO will be recommending chemo, I meet with her tomorrow to go over everything and make a decision from there.  My pathology status changed with Oncotype.  After surgery/biopsy I was ER+ 8 %, PrG -. The oncotype test is now saying I'm ER- but PrG +.  Will be interested in the explanation  of that Tues. 

    Hope everyone else is recovering well.

  • Mom4four
    Mom4four Member Posts: 117
    edited July 2016

    tsoebbin, the drains are a pain no matter what your body type! At least they were for me

  • myToyStory2
    myToyStory2 Member Posts: 162
    edited July 2016

    Tsoebbin - Today marks week #8 for my drain - and I put out 45 cc and 60 cc over the weekend - so I'm guessing we're going to be together until week #9. I feel your pain! What caused your emergency surgery in July?

    Sensitive - So glad you were able to take the time you needed to heal before returning to work! Keep us updated on your test results after Tuesday's appointment - sounds like you've got a big decision to make.

  • tsoebbin
    tsoebbin Member Posts: 474
    edited July 2016

    toystory... I had an internal bleed, passed out in my kitchen around 6 pm and they couldn't stop it in the ER with compression so I had 1am surgery and spent 2more days in the hospital.

    8 weeks... YIKES. Can I ask what the output looks like?

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2016

    Good to hear from some of our past surgery sisters! Glad some of you are doing better.

    Tsoebbin - yikes to you about that emergency surgery internal bleeding thing. Scary stuff.

    Re: this Stupid Infection - last week's bloodwork and cultures et al are back and all negative, meaning I'm clear. Except this particular test method has a supposedly ridiculous high rate of false negatives. And I don't FEEL fine yet. I'm supposed to meet the PS this week to discuss exchange surgery, but we're probably going to talk instead about how I've just now gotten into OT for the injury they gave me, I'm still rocking a bloody scab on one incision (two months out!), and I don't feel secure about this infection really being "over".

    Also we get to discuss the growing list of drugs to which I have terrible reactions. Who knew?

  • myToyStory2
    myToyStory2 Member Posts: 162
    edited July 2016

    Sorry about your complications, Tsoebbin! And sorry that your infection questions weren't answered, GreyKat! Ugh....

    I'm 3 weeks out from my latest surgery. The drainage started blood red, then lighter red, pinkish yellow, and currently straw colored. When my infections fired up the drainage changed color - became very cloudy and had pus in it. I was told that when Pseudomonas is present it can also turn the drainage a bluish-green color and give off a sweet smell. Hth.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited July 2016

    Hello All

    Thanks for all the support, so sorry Greykat no answers for your nerve damage. I appreciate your thinking of me with all you have and are going though.

    . tsoebbin sorry about your complications.

    Radiation is tough for me due to the breath hold, and every time they seem to have to re position me. I think because I thought if would be more in and out, and not so technical that is getting me down. My skin is doing very well #12/33. I do slather with aloe and then miaderm and aquaphor.

    I feel the same Greykat, I felt so good after chemo and before surgery. I just don't fee good now. It's seems to have been sort of downhill since surgery, especially with the nerve pain, hospital visit etc. Today almost sent me over the edge, I walked in with a good attitude, upbeat and then they had to re do everything and I was on that hard table holding my breath over an hour.

    This too shall pass. Thanks for letting me vent.

  • tsoebbin
    tsoebbin Member Posts: 474
    edited July 2016

    One of my drains is still red... almost brown colored. I guess the surgeon will tell us tomorrow what is going on.

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2016

    Aw, thanks ladies. I appreciate the support. It is frustrating when it's just one thing after another. My phrase for that has always been "Well, if it's not chickens, it's feathers." Surgery was wrapped up in the roof leaking, then sewage backing up in the kitchen, a sudden funeral, a clot-bleed-out, a rehospitalization, bad drug rxns, health problems with my partner cropping up and requiring dr visits, a nasty/scary infection, more bad drug rxns, more doctors, and of course that surprise waking-up-with-major-injury thing they sprung on me which has been on ongoing source of immense physical pain, mobility issues, and frustration getting the dr's office to agree to put in the paperwork for OT. Plus ongoing fills and pain from that.

    It has NOT been a simple two months. I just don't feel like I can handle a second surgery in the next month. I've lost 10% my total body weight along the way and have been struggling to eat enough to keep it up and stable. I am not "recovered" from all the complications and I just feel like I need more time, but I feel like the PS office is pushing me to schedule surgery.

    Just last week I started to have more good days but I am still fatigued from this infection and I am not operating at 100% yet.

    We just have to hang in there.

    Valstim - that sounds just awful, having to have everything redone everytime. What a frustrating process.

  • myToyStory2
    myToyStory2 Member Posts: 162
    edited July 2016

    Home from my weekly appointment. The good news - stitches came out and I finally got my first fill on my right side. Just 50 cc's, and so far no real discomfort, but that's some progress. The right side drain remains though....on to week #9 we go.

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2016

    ToyStory - I mentioned your case today to a woman waiting in the drs office with me - she's on week five of having drains. I told her I know of a woman who's going on week 9 and I think she felt a little better.

    Frankly, I was fine when I had them, but just looking at a drain chart makes me queasy now. I don't know how you manage.


  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited July 2016

    Have a large seroma, had 200cc of fluid drained from my incision area. Then went to rads. It just gets worse.

  • myToyStory2
    myToyStory2 Member Posts: 162
    edited July 2016

    Glad I could make your waiting room friend feel better, GreyKat! :) My drain site is starting to get very tender, particularly after a shower, so I'm keeping an eye on it today.

    Valstim - as much as I complain about the drains, I can't even imagine what you went through today! How many more rad sessions do you have? Hope you're near the end!

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited July 2016

    I have 18 to go. I'd rather have drains than go through what I did.

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited July 2016

    Hi everyone!

    I have continued to lurk here for some time but I've been busy and I hadn't posted. I'm still praying for everyone here and I hoped beyond hope that GreyKat and Raven and everyone else here would have gotten some relief from their ordeal they call surgery!

    I don't know if anyone remembers but I joined the April group but they couldn't get my insurance to approve anything. So, I joined this May group hoping things would get taken care of. Nope, then I finally got a surgery date for 6/15 and joined the June group. Surgery cancelled. Really?!? So on to the July group and I actually had my surgery last Wednesday! Having experienced the drains I'm totally blown away that some of you are going on 9 weeks?! I remember Raven and GreyCat had their drains for an extended period of time and what a battle it was for them! I had my mind set to deal with any draw backs with my drains and I know I would have lost my mind if I'd had mine that long! As it is I had my drains removed yesterday, 8 days out. I was only getting 8 to 10ccs a day so my PS reluctantly decided to pull them. We are both concerned about having them out so soon. I've been given a list of things to watch out for but I came back here as some of you have had such a hard time of it, I knew this is where I need to be. I'm still waiting for the other shoe to fall!

    I was hoping to find rainbows and unicorns but ooh my goodness the issues continue for all of you.

    (((GreyCat)))~ still no attention given to your nerve damaged hand?! That's unthinkable!

    (()Sensi)))~ I'm sorry to hear you may be going through chemo! I think you've had more of your share of bad news. Anymore lunches with the girls while I've been away?

    (((myToyStory2)))~ it seems your having prolonged difficulties with your drains. 9 weeks?!?!?

    (((Valstim)))~ I haven't gotten beyond my surgery yet, I can only imagine what you are going through!

    I have an appointment with my Oncologist on Tuesday. I hope my luck continues and he has good news for me... Or is this where the other shoe will land?

    You are all still on the prayer list at my church. I need to tell them to pray harder please!

    I'll need to go back a few pages and take notes. I know I've left some of you out but it's not on purpose.

    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • grandma3X
    grandma3X Member Posts: 759
    edited July 2016

    I was just going to post about how quiet it's been, and realized I have missed the last 10 days of posts! I'm still catching up, but wanted to let you all know that I think of you often.

    GreyKat / don't let them rush you into having the exchange. As the guy said "you've been through the ringer" - let yourself heal, get through OT and get some advice about alternative pain management options first. There is no reason to rush into another surgery so soon.

    Valstim - sending Hugs. I hope the rads gets easier for you.

    I had my final fill this week. I had thought that I would do one more but this last fill was very uncomfortable. I'm at 260 ccs in a 275 cc expander. The PA thought I should at least go one more but I'm already bigger than I was before surgery.

    My ankle and calf are still swollen. I saw a LE yesterday and was told that it's not lymphadema because my foot and toes are not swollen. My PCP wants to send me for a CT abdominal angiogram next. I'm like "sure!" until I found out what's involved (sedation, catheter, 4-12 hours in the recovery room lying flat on my back...) so I think I'll skip this one. As long as this is not life threatening I can live with the swelling. My cholesterol is good, Im not overweight, don't smoke, and my blood pressure is back down to 126/64. I'm hoping my daily baby aspirin regim will take care of any blockages and that this will resolve itself without further intervention.

    I had my root canal - painless (!) with only a slight amount of soreness the next day. Glad I had it done since the cold sensitivity is now gone :)

    I'm off for a week vacation in the Adirondacks with DH and the grand kids. Bikes, kayaks fishing poles and plenty of board games packed in the back if the truck :) It will be especially nice to escape the heat.

    Hugs to all. Have a great weekend!
  • tsoebbin
    tsoebbin Member Posts: 474
    edited July 2016

    Drains!!!! Uggghhhhhh... I have another question. Or anyone's drains taken out when the output was still red?


  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2016

    Hi WenchLori! I have to correct - I didn't have my drains for an extended time, had them out after 9 days or thereabouts. I was the one that ended up in the hospital again because of neurotoxic reactions to the drugs they put me on, and in THAT visit I picked up a nasty, stubborn infection. And I did finally start OT this last week and I love my therapist. He's like a-blinding-ray-of-sunshine-on-ultra-high-beam-positive All. The Time. It's so nice to work with someone who is happy. So here's hoping.

    Valstim - that sounds horrible. I send hugs and brownies. Hang in there.

    Grandma - I also finished my fills this week. We have the same size TE!

    My exchange surgery is scheduled for August, right after I'm done with OT, because I have to fit it (and recovery time) in before my partner is gone for an extended period. I'm trying to wrap my head around having a pre-op in two and a half weeks. I don't know what they're going to do different this time to prevent a repeat/new injury and I also carry a high risk of having this infection relapse or return, but I also can't not have exchange surgery.

    Also, I can't have most of the drugs they like to use, apparently. *frustration* So planning this is stressful. I'm getting no painkillers during surgery, I think, and they're limited in the recovery room as to what they can use, and I don't get anything stronger than something one step above 200 mg advil for at home recovery. No muscle relaxers, no tylenol products, can't have some opiods, and I'm not sure what's left for pain management. I guess I'll just have to tough it out.

    I'm just scared they'll hurt me again and disable me further and that this infection will come back and land me in the hospital and require more surgery I don't want to have.

    I'm trying to convince the surgeon to make exchange surgery as short as possible. He's thinking about doing fat grafting and I'm thinking of saying no, let's just get the squishies in fast and see how they look before I decide to do that and risk a third surgery. I already know he's got to do some pocket work on the left side that is a bit lopsided, and that can't wait. I know multiple surgeries are their own problem but I can't stand the thought of another long one where they crush a vital nerve for hours without noticing or caring.

    Also, I have a small fear of them goofing around and my waking up with teeny tiny breasts or DDDs, lol, and not the proportional normal size I was.

    I did make it absolutely clear that there would be NO STAPLING THE DRAPES TO MY BODY this time around. I am not happy with the ring of scarring I have all around my chest/upper arms from that nor that two of those staples went into bone and left me with two injured ribs that took 7 weeks to heal. All completely uncalled for and unnecessary. No staples! I said I want it in writing before surgery. It is stressful to have to stay on stop of stupid stuff like this that shouldn't be an issue at all.

  • myToyStory2
    myToyStory2 Member Posts: 162
    edited July 2016

    Thanks for the updates, Grandma and WenchLori! Great to hear from you! Keeping you ladies my thoughts as you continue to heal.

    A little jealous that some of you are done with your fills and looking forward to your exchanges! After having to start over on the right side, I've come to realize that although I thought I could be somewhat indifferent to reconstruction, I do not enjoy being flat. Total respect for the women who are happy with that decision, but it's not for me. Glad my fills have finally begun!

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited July 2016

    Thank you for the correction GreyKat, I hate starting rumors. I remember now what a horrible experience you had with all the medications making you so deathly ill. It sounds like you have a lot of difficult decision to make and I agree with with grandma3x don't let them push you into a surgery your not sure about. It's your body, not theirs!

    MyToyStory2, I'm glad you are finally getting your fills started! Yay! I may get my first fill next week it depends on how badly I'm hurting :-/

    Tsoebbin, my drains were removed while the drainage was still red. For a while today I thought I was right to be concerned about having them out so quickly. I woke up from my nap with drainage running down my side. It was a bit unnerving at first, luckily my hubby walked in the door just in time to help me. I tell him he's my Hero through all of this every day!

  • tsoebbin
    tsoebbin Member Posts: 474
    edited July 2016

    Thanks Lori. I'm tired and frustrated this morning. Another drain failed late last night. It was still putting out 50+ CCS per day and it's on the side that is still swollen and had the bleed the doc went back in to repair 4 days post BMX.

    Called the on call doc (cancer doc, but not a breast specialist) and she had my husband remove the drain.

    It's more swollen on that side this morning. Uuggggh.

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2016

    Tsoebbin - I don't know what's going on with your drains, but I really hope they stop causing problems and you can have a moment's peace. I'll be thinking of you and sending you good thoughts. Also maybe thoughts of deserts, the Sahara, sand, hot dry thirsty days, heat lamps, high speed fans, and other drying/dehydrating things...

  • tsoebbin
    tsoebbin Member Posts: 474
    edited July 2016

    Great idea GreyKat!

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited July 2016

    That's a wonderful idea GreyKat!

    Tsoebbin, your hubby is a very brave man! I hope your drains dry up soon! This is beyond enough is enough!

    I wish my bladder would go back to normal. I keep running to the bathroom every 20 mins or so. My hubby asked me if I had diarrhea? I told him no, I have peearrhea! Here I go again!

    Love and hugs to everyone!

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2016

    Oh goodness! Don't go *actually* trying to dehydrate yourself just to dry up your drains on my account! I just meant *thoughts* of it all. In case mind tricks work. Last thing we need is one of us to end up hospitalized for dehydration on top of everything else!

    I still hope your drains quit causing problems Tsoebbin.

  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited July 2016

    Hi, ladies! Been out of touch lately – so many posts to catch-up! I agree the board has slowed WAY down and it would be nice to get updates from those who have moved on to more "normal" lives (or at least the ones who haven't had complications like we have, if you can call that "normal".)

    Sensitivehrt, sorry about the Oncotype score and that you're headed for chemo.

    Tsoebbin – holy moley, that passing out episode sounds scary! Sorry you're having so many problems with your drains, too. I can't believe they had your DH take one out at home – he must be a very brave guy. My DH would pass out in an instant!

    Valstim52, I'm so sorry that the rads visits are such a pain. Mine were "easy in, easy out" and I was so hoping that yours would be that way as well, so I'm sorry it's not working out that way for you. Sorry too about the seroma. Enough is enough!

    GreyKat, I was going to say that you just take as long as you need to work up to the next surgery but then in a subsequent post I see that you're under a time constraint. I'm anxious about my next surgery in September and I've not been through a fraction of what you have, so I can only imagine your anxiety about another procedure. Fingers crossed they can address some of your concerns. And NO EFFING STAPLES. Good Lord.

    WenchLori, so happy to get an update from you! Fingers crossed that there is no other "shoe drop" for you!

    myToyStory2, I'm with you on not wanting to look flat. I'm telling you, it's absolutely shocking to me every time I look in the mirror. Although I can't stand wearing a bra 24/7 I just cannot abide not wearing my stuffed-on-one-side bra around my DH and kids because the uni-boob look has got to be just as shocking to them as it is to me (even worse for me because I have to see it WITHOUT clothes.) And what the heck is up with your drains? Still in???? I'd be beside myself at this point. I thought 7 weeks was awful, and you're on to nine! Guh! I hope like hell they come out for you soon.

    As for me, nothing medical-related to report, I'm happy to say. I guess eventually I'll be moving on to the September board once my next surgery is scheduled to re-try the TE on the right, but I still like checking in here to see how things are going with you all. I'm still a little sore on the right side where the infection was so I'm kind of concerned that it's not truly gone, but they'll put me on antibiotics before the next surgery so I'll just plan for the worst, but hope for the best. I'm back to my normal, active self – working, riding my stationary bike 45 minutes a day (trying to lose the 8 lbs I gained through this ridiculous process, plus the additional 10 I had to go before I sarted!), golfing as much as I can, taking tennis lessons, starting ballet next week, and just generally enjoying my summer with the DH and kids before I have to start stressing over the next surgery. I was joking last night at golf that my one "bionic boob" must be helping because I'm absolutely crushing the ball, and said I can't wait until I have TWO of them - imagine how good my game will be! I figure if I'm not laughing about this then I'll be crying, so trying my best to make light of it. Looking forward to a family vacation to Mt. Rushmore at the end of August as well.

    I'll keep checking in on all of you!

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited July 2016

    No Raven4MI say here. No rules says we can't keep this board going.

  • tsoebbin
    tsoebbin Member Posts: 474
    edited July 2016

    raven.. love to hear you're enjoying summer. Today I am too! I still have swelling on the left side from that bleed and may have to have another surgery to irrigate it and put a drain in.... BUT... We're trying compression first to see if my body will absorb the fluids first. I have an ace bandage on my chest with two breast fluffies on that side for added compression. I look odd but it may do the job and let me avoid surgery.

    THE SUPER AWESOME NEWS... Doc removed the drain on the other side so I'm currently drain free!

    Wowza!

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2016

    Raven! So glad to hear from you and that you're doing well and enjoying yourself for a while. I try to block this stuff all out once in a while to get some peace, but it's pretty much impossible and now I'm back to losing sleep over this next surgery. I just realized that I have to start the countdown today and start writing up a grocery list and figuring out what kind of clothes to pack.

    I have moments where I think it might still turn out ok with enough time, and other angrily frustrating moments with my partially-functional hand/arm where I want to cry angry bitter tears about how they've ruined my quality of life.

    So then I don't post here because that's not very uplifting or encouraging and we all have enough going on. But yeah, this really wears on a person as the issues and the pain and the awfulness compounds.

    At any rate, I've compared my TE measurements with the implants my PS likes to use, and the size he said he's going to start trying out seems to me to be about 100-150ccs too SMALL to get the same amount of projection and width that I'm happy with now. So THAT's going to be a talk. I will be bringing the manufacturer's specs along with me, and we are going to sit there and underline things and discuss this, along with the pocket revision that has to happen. I am going to be that pedantic, detail-obsessed patient, because as they've shown, they certainly aren't interested in patient protection.

    I do enjoy hearing from our May sisters who are doing well.

    Edit: spelling

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