Summer Rads 2016
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More X-rays today...that is 2 days in a row. She said something shifted. It is a bit unnerving when the tech comes back into the room half way through treatment to remeasure and you can hear the machine making its typical noises
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Had a large seroma from my masectomy drained this morning and still had rads.
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First RAD in the bag, can honestly say it was more overwhelming than I expected. Maybe because they had to do X-rays & they tell me after I'm laying down and I'mall strapped up that they were going to put a wet towel over my breast for 1/2 the treatment and then they remove it for the other half of treatment 😳‼️ My brain immediately went in circles trying to see if I recalled anyone mentioning this process on here, so I think that's when panic set in as I didn't have any information & the RO didn't tell me about last week.
Jacklin- thank you! Tomorrow I am going to try to sing a song and see if I can take my mind off of the little monitor I have to look at (I too wear the snorkeling device (great name by the way LOL) as my tumor was also on the left side. I felt like the nose clip was too tight but I didn't want to say anything because I didn't want to move, & since it was my 1st day I didn't feel comfortable at all with anything so wasn't sure if that's how it should feel. I am going to speak up tomorrow for sure!
27 more to go! Hope the nose clip is the worst part 😊
Allie
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Had the dry run today, I start tomorrow. Bummed going through this in the middle of the summer since I love the beach, but it is what it is!
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Carlsoda - I get 2 X-rays every day, one at the start for the lymph nodes and then another X-ray before the whole-breast radiation. Sometimes, if the positioning isn't right, I get more than those 2 X-rays - each time they make an adjustment to my physical position, they take another X-ray. That X-ray has to line up with the simulation before the actual radiation takes place.
Allie, be sure you ask the technicians what the wet towel is about, you have a right to know and should ask. What's the monitor you have to look at about? Is that to help you with holding your breath? Glad I could help with the singing of a song suggestion. Wouldn't it be nice if the nose clip is the worst thing about the whole treatment? What I find annoying is right after the technicians get me all set up, I have this mysterious itch that makes its presence known. Like, behind my left ear, or my nose - seriously? Now? If I move, they have to start all over to set me up so I don't, but I can hardly wait till the rads is finished so that I scratch that itch! Or, maybe I'm the only one who experiences that. On a more serious note Allie, you will feel more comfortable as you complete more treatments but I would encourage you to ask any and all questions. The nose clip is very snug and sometimes they don't quite position it correctly (and then it can be a little painful) so I do adjust it before they start, but they always ask to make sure it's ok. Hope rads #2 goes more smoothly and let me know what song you sing, ok?
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Hi all, I'm Dara. I've been reading your posts all month, but haven't posted as I haven't been told yet if I can go straight to radiation or if I need to do any chemo first. I find out Monday and have my RO consult next Friday (just in case.) My cancer was also on the left side. Why the nose clip?
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Nose clip is to hold your breath if you are not able to do it on your own. They gave me a choice of the snorkle gear, or testing me doing the breath hold. The gear gave me anxiety so I'm 15/33 done as of today and the breath hold works for me.
Glad I was given a choice.
Ask all questions you have the right. I ask about everything.
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6 left to go! Last whole breast tomorrow and then on to my 5 boosts next week! Have some itchiness on my chest so was told to use hydrocortisone if needed to help the itch and only in that area with no other cream. Haven't had to yet since I got home but tonight I probably will need to. I've had a total of 15 so far and really just find the occasional pains in my breast the worst. Counting down the days!
Left the house without drawing on my eyebrows when I left this morning lol....will be nice to get them and my eyelashes back!!!
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6 down, 21 to go! So far no issues, but the nurses told me I'm more likely to have problems because of my size (but hah, my 46 Ds seem so small after the breast reduction!
I'm slathering up my treated ta-ta with Miaderm, My Girls cream, and calendula oil several times a day, so we'll see how it goes. Any of you larger ladies have any experiences to share?
So far, I love rads compared to chemo- 10 minutes and I'm back to my day! My hair is coming back, my energy level is normal, life is good!
Carlsoda- I was told I'd have x-rays every week.
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Had my Sim today -- four tattoos... those HURT! Start rads this Wednesday.
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Jacklin- thanks today I had a zillion questions LOL & I felt more comparable, the RO said the wet towel mimics real skin and therefore it makes the radiation go deeper since I have expanders. Called bolus 😬, which I have seen mentioned in other post but the method may be different. Can you believe I couldn't think of ANY song!! Finally the only song that came to mind was row row row ur boat LOL! 🚣🏽 The monitor is to watch the breathing range. You are so right something always wants to itch, I too will not move bcz I don't want to have them start again.
Valstim52- I'm so glad you were given the option.I can't believe my hospital didn't give me the choice. It may be their practice bcz I hv a friend that I met in chemo who is also doing this method and didn't get the option. The snorkeling gear is making me so uncomfortable I prefer to hold my breath on my own. Tomorrow I will ask if that's an option!
Today wasn't that bad I am sure this gets easier as it progresses. It's just not routine right now so I'm still a little off.
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As strange as it sounds, it makes me feel better that each of us has a completely different experience with the type or procedure of the radiation treatments- they really are custom made for each of our unique situations.
I didn't feel the tattoos at all, but that may be due to the location.
I have made a few friends as we all have our daily appointments next to each other. I have the longest treatment plan out of the three of us, so we plan to all get together when I am done to celebrate.
Tomorrow will be #18 for me. I hit my 1/2 mark today. Baby steps and deep breaths. I have found this to be a test of patience, and more of an endurance run than a sprint.
Hang in there everyone, and heal over the weekend for next week!
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hi girls 10 down 23 to go no issues so far. I just read that you have to hold ur breath?? Why? Its new for me they never asked anything like this from me they just want me to relax and stay still. On the sim they measured the belly movement while breathing that was all. The tattoo was painful for me too but so far I am well. Just went back to the Gym after 6 months chemo it feels soooo goood
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Hey my friends - hope you are all doing well. wanted to tell you of a concern that I have. since the second week of radiation I started with a cough and having a hard time swallowing. I thought it was a cold so I did not think much of it, but it was dry. still exists and I have 4 more rads left. I asked yesterday the rad onc and they told me NO way could it be related to the Radiation. Now everything I read says it is. Plus many of the people that are at radiation say it is. pause for concern.
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Hey there Allie, nice song!! I was thinking of you yesterday when I had my rads, wondering what you were singing . I also get a bolus but mine is like a thick layer of gelatine/rubber. If you're getting a bolus to the skin, you may find that you get a rash/blisters on your chest around #20. Just keep doing the saline soaks and I also add aloe from my aloe plant (and let it dry) before putting on the flammazine. Are you allowed to do the breath-hold? I know it's an option at my cancer centre, but I am able to use the snorkel-gear and find it helps me stay focussed. I also find that when I'm home, I got shirt-less so that my skin can breathe as much as possible, this also prevent any friction from my clothing.
Lovemyfamily - 3 of my 4 tattoos didn't hurt, it was the one near my breastbone, in the middle of my chest, that hurt like crazy! It didn't last long thankfully.
jenniferjo- making new friends in the waiting room is great, isn't it? I find that the women with breast cancer quickly make eye contact and suddenly there's a group of us chatting away. This is how I found a woman who lives 5 minutes away from me, in the next town over so now I have a new friend. We'll be keeping in touch after I finish rads today. Yup, it's my last day, yippee!!
Daisy - the breath hold is for when your cancer is in the left breast. When you inhale (and hold your breath), it pushes your heart towards your feet and out of the way of the radiation beam so that you give minimal radiation exposure to your heart. If your cancer is in your right breast, you won't have to do the snorkel/breath hold.
Frances, I also have this cough and issues with heartburn, big time. I was also told it had nothing to do with rads, maybe I was eating too spicy (not), too much coffee (not) etc. I found that the women here were a wealth of information and so just left it at that. For sure it is pause for concern......
Have a great day everyone, my hubby and I are off to celebrate the last day of rads with a nice dinner tonight. I have 4 weeks off until I start round 2 of chemo, sigh.
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More on the breath hold,my center also has the red laser light, that will shut the machine off if you cant hold your breath.
I had a cough the first few times, and my RO said sometimes the esophagus is affected early on. It has gone away.
Yes my bolus is a gel like covering, but they stopped as of treatment #14. I'm glad, because that was causing me the most angst because they never seem to get it positioned right and have to keep realigning me.
My skin is now pink and stings a little.
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Frances and Jacklin - ask if the rads are hitting your lungs at all. I asked to see the mapping yesterday at my first rad appt, and I saw in order to fully get the chest wall the radiation is sort of "skimming" my lung. The RO said it could some coughing but it will go away. However as a result it will create scar tissue on the lung. He said no long term effects of breathing or anything. What irritates me is that I had to ASK about the mapping, nobody told me about the lungs. Of course my concern was about the heart since I'm receiving rads on my left breast. They didn't recommend the breathing technique either, but according to the mapping the angles of radiation aren't close to the heart. I'm going to ask my regular MO about it.
Meantime, I only had two rad appointment, and I feel heartburn and a burning inside my mouth similar to what I experienced during AC. I'm only two into the 28! I'm going to call them about it.
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fightergirl, mine is also on the left with no breathing apparatus but I did see the treatment plan and it's not near my heart. It is skimming the lung and I was told about it during my first appt. I actually saw it twice because I kept asking (hehe)
I have 12 left...just amazing how fast it is going. But I am getting super tired, so tired that a nap seems to make it worse. It is so weird! Today I am lacking appetite too, but I can't imagine it being related to rads.
Now it's the weekend and time to recoup!
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Thanks Carlsoda, good to know I'm not the only one. At least they told you about it, here they didn't even allude to it.
I called and asked about the sore mouth, throat, heartburn thing. They said no way it has to do with radiation. I am not entirely convinced, after seeing this board here, so I called my MO's office at DFCI and left a message. It happens right after the appointment. I know I'm a nag but I feel like I'm being patronized by the RO.
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I'm amazed at how much is NOT due to rads, but a lot of people have it. At least my RO warned me about the lung, coughing towards the end, dry mouth etc. I got to see my mapping at the very beginning. I truly think it is because my daughter is a pharmacist and a trained RN and she goes back with me, all the way to the machine. (they couldn't stop her)
He was correct that it does get better, but that was very hard to see the first 10 treatments. My RO also mentioned due to them radiating lymph nodes in my neck I would get a sore throat.
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Fightergirl, I hate to say it, but I tend to trust some the the very intelligent women in these forums more than some in the medical community. It makes me angry as well that we often have to be the ones to ASK. If we don't know about the research or experiences, we don't know what to ask. It really makes me need/want to research everything possible to my bc. Even though I haven't started rads yet, this thread has helped me so much know what needs to be asked, discussed and decided. And how many of the ROs and techs have actually gone through what you are going through?
Thanks to all on this thread who are helping even those of us prep for rads. I'll hopefully be starting soon (if I ever get that darn onco results back!)
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Hi all! Just had my lumpectomy and SNB yesterday, and looks like I'll start radiation in mid August (not sure how long yet). I've just moved back to the US from Australia - left my job in Australia Feb, traveled through Asia with my family, back to California April and have been enjoying time off. Got a GREAT job offer beginning of June, and managed to get a start date of August 8th so that I could enjoy a summer off. Since then got the BC diagnosis (had absolutely no idea!). I've heard folks say you can work and get radiation, but not sure if starting a brand new job (which will be fairly full on - I'll manage an org of around 60 people), and starting radiation in the same month is wise. I want to be open to my new manager and plan to talk to him next week about what is going on, and bring up idea of delaying start date by a few weeks. Has anyone else started radiation while starting a new job? Appreciate any advice from those who are going through radiation now.
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Well, still not feeling well. Very tired, forcing myself to eat and had a bad headache this morning. Last weekend I didn't feel very well either. I wonder if it's rad related or something else (seriously could I catch a virus two weekend in a row?) My husband thinks it is time now to cut back on work, but work is a good distraction! 12 left....2 & 1/2 weeks
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13 down! I do feel tired a lot. I'm still swimming in our pool and managed to find a rash guard shirt for my plus size on Amazon. Yay!
I was having issues with my two kids and I decided to lay down the law. Until Aug 12, my last session, it is all.about.me. It is about what I want, how I feel and they will have to just wait until then. They started off good and this past week they made things miserable. DH is backing me 100%.I'm not sure why this is making me so tired but it is and I have tried too hard to push through it so now it is just relax and get through it as best as I can. The rest will have to wait.
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Elaine, it's tough parenting while going through bc, especially when they are school-age and on summer break... I have to bite my tongue sometimes to avoid saying "bad mommy" things that would land my beautiful DDS on the therapist's couch for years. What I think: I'm dealing w bc and you can't water the plants (or, pick up your toys, or put your dirty clothes in the laundry room, etc.)? What I say, repeatedly, until it happens, "Please water the garden." Mine are 5 and 10. Yours?
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Mine are 10 and 11. They were taking advantage of me being so tired. They know what they need to do. We homeschool year round and have a pretty regular morning routine. I decided to give them time off from the academics while doing radiation. They have pretty basic chores to do and they were simply neglecting them and watching TV and playing electronics all day. I am strict. I do expect them to contribute to the house. Having BC is not an excuse for them to stop feeding the dogs. So after a week of being nice, doing gentle reminders, etc. I just changed all the passwords on the electronics so I have to log in for them to use them and I put the remote away out of reach until all chores are done. The 11 year old is allowed attitude as long as the rest of us are not subjected to it. She gets natural consequences for mouthing off. I arranged for time with friends several times last week. They had hours away from the house playing with kids. I told them they needed to do things before they could leave and when they didn't do it on Thursday they simply didn't get to go. Same on Friday. By Friday night my 11 year old wrote an apology letter (on her own) and served me a plate of Vanilla Wafers when we were watching TV. Her tone has been a lot better this weekend.
I truly feel kids need to learn they are part of a family. That everyone needs to work together to make things run smoothly so we can do fun things. If it doesn't get done we can't do the fun stuff. DH is very good doing the shopping, making dinner, etc. He took up the responsibility of taking care of the minis horses because I'm avoiding the extreme heat we are having in FL by staying inside as much as possible. Normally that is my job.
When the girls are sick, I encourage the one that is not sick to pitch in and help. I told the girls that to heal I need help. They seem to really let that sink in on Friday after we talked and they have made more effort. We have a housekeeper every other week. I am not asking them to do the big stuff. I am asking them to do the same tasks they have been doing the past few years and to do it without attitude.A long time ago I read a report about how more women die of serious illness than men. It is because they feel the need to do it all for their family and they don't receive the same care a man does. I guess I decided that I'd rather be here 20 years from now than to continue my children's very privileged lives for 2 months like nothing is wrong. They can pitch in. We snuggle and watch fun shows and play Slither.io. We read, bake together, cook together and I make sure they keep up figure skating and their instrument lessons. Right now I'm spending this extra time inside the home sorting pictures and putting together some photo albums they requested. I use Shutterfly and I need to sort through 10 years of digital pictures to decide what to include. Both girls will have photo books at the end of this ordeal. Once this is over we will do a Disney cruise for my birthday (a compromise on my part...I was hoping for Norway) and we will go back to the very busy schedule we have as homeschoolers with play dates, homeschool programs around the county, hikes, beach days, etc. They need to learn that sometimes is really isn't all about them. I was nice about it but I made sure they know they are a big part in this healing process and should be helping more with the right attitude. They got it.
With a 5 year old I would put it in age appropriate terms but that is not too young to sort clothes, pick up shoes, etc. And there should be consequences when they don't. -
I feel for you ladies with young kids. My first go round my kids were 3,5 and 8. They had no clue why mommy was tired. Or daddy was sad. It was horrible.
Now they are taking me to treatment, cleaning , cooking and are the best support I could have ever wished for. I do hate they are facing this with me again.
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Elaine, I love your parenting philosophy and chuckled when I read your post. It sounds like you've done a great job with them since it only took a few days to get them back in line! My parents were the same when I was growing up, and we are all so very very close as adults. As mothers, I think we sometimes over-compensate and fee badly when we can't do the normal things. I too really feel for those with small children (or any children!) still at home. I'm fortunate that my son and his family live less than 5 miles away, and they are awesome. In fact, he AND his DIL are going with me and DH to my fist oncology appt tomorrow. Should be cozy in the small dr offices! :-) They are very protective of me now and don't think I'll tell them the truth about limitations etc. And what a wonderful positive thing for you and the girls to have with the photo books at the end of these treatments!
You and LMF keep it up. Sounds like your families are so lucky to have you as their mom!
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My first treatment was July 5. I have 34 total to do. I'm having Proton therapy and my doctor gave me Miaderm for skin irritation. So far I'm doing good, but I'm getting tired.
Is anyone else getting worn down from treatment?
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Yes Amie0215, I did so well during chemo, and the downhill started with surgery and now i'm 16/33 rads and it seems I can't get a grip on things. So tired. I now understand a dear friend who years ago with BC gathered all her fiends and family and said if it recurs there will be no more treatments. It did recur 5 years later and she did not have any treatments. She passed in 3 months but peaceful and happy. I really personally was angry with her choice, now I feel the same as she. What a circle life is.
I also think I personally underestimated rads.
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