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  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited June 2016

    Day 2 of rads. Still long time on table with positioning etc. They say it will get shorter. The actual treatment is no time though.

    So far, slathering on aquaphor as directed, no SE's yet.

    SpecialK you are right on the money. My MO thinks it's neuropathy and told me to start back on my l-glutamnine and b-12 and 6. Not really sure why I stopped.

    Papillon1 sorry about the burning.

    Raven4mi, thanks for the well wishes. and hello to all

  • Papillon1
    Papillon1 Member Posts: 308
    edited June 2016

    the smooth bra under the sports bra has worked wonders!!!!'

  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited June 2016

    Valstim52, hang in there on those first few rads appointments. I recall that the first 2-3 took a long time for the reason you've experienced - positioning and getting everything just so. After that, I was often in and out in less than 15 minutes. Some days I waited longer than the actual treatment!

  • myToyStory2
    myToyStory2 Member Posts: 162
    edited June 2016

    Sending best wishes to all of my May sisters as we try to solve these new mysteries brought on by our changes. Love reading the updates and the helpful hints!

    I'm wrapping up 13 days of hospital living in June, from two separate stays. Hoping to go home this evening.....I'm ready! My body is feeling pretty beat up after multiple surgeries and so many days of being poked and prodded. The thing I've missed the most is sleep - so I plan to savor my first night back in my own bed with my comforts of home and no one waking me to change a dressing or empty a drain! Can't wait to get home to my kiddos, and even the dog, too.

    Speaking of drains, I did finally get my original left drain out - 37 days after my BMX surgery....hurray!

  • myToyStory2
    myToyStory2 Member Posts: 162
    edited June 2016

    Question about bras for those of you going through the reconstruction process - how are you buying bras as your size continues to change? I haven't had to worry about it because I've lived in my compression bras for the past month due to dr orders. Just curious what your buying process is. Thx!

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited June 2016

    Toystory - 37 days with one drain! Yeeeesh. You've had a real time of it, and I'm glad to hear you're going home.

    Re: bras during recon - my PS goes for compression garment for the first week or two, and then tight sports bras after, 24/7. So that's what I wear. I found 3 different styles of front-close sports bras before surgery and tried them on in-store, buying what fit then, because I don't plan on going up in size any. So I'm just wearing, washing, wearing 24/7 as the weeks go by. Kind of limits the clothing - the straps show and they're cut rather high in front, so they peek out of necklines if I don't wear a top high enough. As long as the band fits, the "cups" of the bra will stretch as the TE fills expand.

    Watch out though - one my TE is lower than the other and lower than my natural breast was (this has become more and more obvious as fills increase the TE size) so it pulls (more and more each week) unevenly on the sports bra. Which is to say I had to toss out one of my sports bras because the non-adjustable straps are too short now! I hope the squishies end up even and where they're supposed to be...lopsided is not a great look.

    So that's my 2 cents. Make the band fit and watch the strap length if you need tight compression/support during recon.



  • myToyStory2
    myToyStory2 Member Posts: 162
    edited June 2016

    Thanks for the tips, GreyKat! Hope your journey is getting a little easier!

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited June 2016

    Thanks ToyStory. I'm currently battling an infection on top of feeling really discouraged about the damage to my hand/arm nerve, and you know, being disabled for life because of their carelessness, so I'm pretty glum right now. But I am happy to hear that maybe there's a light at the end of your tunnel. I still can't get over that you had a drain for 37 days as everything else was going along. That seems like a huge infection risk, and I don't know how you managed it.

  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited June 2016

    MyToyStory2, glad you're heading home for some much needed rest. And yay for getting that darned drain out! My right side was in for seven weeks, so I totally understand the relief.

    Had another follow-up with PS today. They filled my left side with another 50 CCs for a total of 600 CCs. That side is good to go until the exchange surgery now. I don't go back to see the PS now until September 8th (unless something comes up and fingers crossed nothing will) and then we'll start over on the reconstruction process on the right side. So I'll be rockin' this uni-boob for 2-1/2 more months. I'm getting pretty good a "matching" the size of the left with my stuffing - now if I could only get it to stay at the same level, I'd be good.

    In other good news.....I can start golfing again. That makes me very happy - even though I'm not very good! It's just one more step toward "normalcy".

  • grandma3X
    grandma3X Member Posts: 759
    edited June 2016
    Raven - that's great news about the golfing! My arms have gotten so flabby. I can't wait to get back to the gym. I'll be 6 weeks postop next week, so no more restrictions on lifting.

    In the mean time I have an appointment with an endodontist next Monday because my dentist thinks I need a root canal, and I go to my PCP tomorrow to see why my ankle and calf is still swollen from surgery a month ago. The MX is now the least of my worries.

    GreyKat - I also have lopsided TEs with lefty an inch or two higher than righty. I am hoping it will look less uneven as the fills progress.

    MyToyStory - I do hope you are home by now and able to enjoy the rest of the summer!
  • LRGO2016
    LRGO2016 Member Posts: 242
    edited June 2016

    Wow grandma3x, talk about similar experiences! I had to have a root canal today. I'm home resting and recovering from the procedure. My tooth went from being mildly annoying to excruciating last week, so they did the full job this afternoon. The numbness is wearing off now and I'm back on strong pain meds for a few days per the dentist's orders. I must be on a drug abuse watch list now after all these different pain meds I've been prescribed since my BMX 6 weeks ago!

    I will say, the worst part of the root canal is getting the numbing shots. After that it does not hurt. Having the mouth propped open is a mere annoyance. My dentist does same day crowns. He has a 3D Camera, scans the mouth to determine what the tooth should be shaped like, then sends the info to a computer and automated crown cutting machine. The crown is custom fit in less than an hour. That is the way to go if you have that option.

    Hang in there! My tooth pain was as bad or worse than the nerve pain caused by my drains. The root canal did the trick! I'm feeling so much better now! Hope your pain goes away too!

  • LRGO2016
    LRGO2016 Member Posts: 242
    edited June 2016

    For those of us with lopsided Te's. My PS says not to worry. During exchange, he will adjust the implant positions to obtain symmetry. The PA described that my PS will sit me up during surgery to see how the new girls hang and rest. Then they make any necessary adjustments to get things even. As the implants settle, additional adjustments may be necessary. So I am forewarned and prepared to undergo iterations of surgical adjustment if necessary.

    Ask your PS to explain how they will fix a currently mismatched position. Please share what they have to say if you are willing. I'm so curious about how this process works and how other surgeons perform their procedures.

  • grandma3X
    grandma3X Member Posts: 759
    edited June 2016
    LRGO - thank you so much for sharing your experience! I've never had a root canal and I think I'm just as anxious about that as I was about getting a mastectomy, LOL!
    As for getting the girls even, my PS explained that it's easier to lower one side than to raise the other. The scars from my MXs are even, but the bottom edge of my left TE is about half inch above the line. My PS said something about pulling the stretched skin down to the incision for coverage, so I think she will remove the half inch of skin between the incision line made by the MX and the bottom edge of my TE, then bring the skin down to the line. I'm not sure if this is really true and plan to ask the NP next time I go in for a fill.
  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited June 2016

    LRGO - Yes, they sit you up in the process of exchange and see how things hang/look/if the size looks right. I already discussed that with my PS because I find that being treated like a rag doll in surgery really adds to the degradation of all this.

    Given the disabling damage they have caused me, I am not willing to undergo more surgery than this exchange unless there's an exceedingly above-all good reason, because they've proved themselves careless and incompetent at patient protection. So they better get this right the first time. If these TE were permanent and didn't look so funky, I'd quit right now just to save myself the risk of them disabling me further with their carelessness and ineptitude.


  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited June 2016

    Not all surgeons sit you up during surgery, my first PS was one who didn't. Unlike an augmentation, reconstruction implants don't move much after placement so some surgeons find the sitting up thing unnecessary. If you have concerns about being moved during surgery you always have the option of stating so on the consent you have to sign prior to the procedure. If you specify it, sign next to it, and have the doctor sign, they are prohibited from doing this routinely and can only do so in an emergency.

    grandma - yes, they can pull the skin down at exchange - I have had this done twice.

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited June 2016

    SpecialK - I just want to add there is an alternative to being able to write out the sitting-up part in the consent form: you can voice how much you don't want that part, and would like to veto it, and the surgeon can refuse to do the surgery in any other way. Like mine has said.

    They don't *have* to agree - they can refuse to do the surgery at all.

  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited June 2016

    Went golfing for the first time yesterday. Played in a couples outing with my DH called the "Ball and Chain". Yes, it's as funny as it sounds. There's a lot of "Oops! Sorry honey!" to be heard around the course on that day. All is well today. The only things that are sore are where the drain incisions were on the right side - probably because I had so many and for so long - and my left knee, because I'm not used to the pivot motion anymore! I really feel like that was a big step in getting back to "normal" - or at least my new normal.

    Hope everyone is having a great week-end.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited June 2016

    Hello All

    Finished my first week of rads. Skin is good, but I am using aloe gel and aquaphor as directed. Hopefully it all will past quickly. Still having finger issues, have appt with lymphedema specialist, but MO thinks it's neuropathy.

  • Papillon1
    Papillon1 Member Posts: 308
    edited June 2016

    I also agree to get a sports bra with adjustable straps - the one the hospital gave me wasn't adjustable and I felt

    I wanted the straps shorter. I bought one size that almost fitted (an exact fit seemed tricky) and am Sticking with it and washing it fast,since it was so expensive and I hope to lose weight once I can excercise.

  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited June 2016

    Valstim52, glad you're skin is doing OK during rads. I never had any problems - slight redness, no worse than a mild sunburn. Fingers crossed it will stay that way for you as well!

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited June 2016

    Raven4mi you are such an encouragement. I appreciate it.


  • MoreShoes
    MoreShoes Member Posts: 322
    edited June 2016

    A question:

    One month after the BMX I still have fluid in the right side, the drains went out right after the op. They've emptied it once but now they say let the body absorb it. I don't see any difference. Will it ever go away by itself? What is your experience with something like that?

    Thank you

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited June 2016

    @Moreshoes - I don't have a yes or no answer for you, nor personal experience, but I can pass on what I learned from the drs in the beginning of this mess when I had a small complication and was asking questions. The idea is that the body doesn't like empty space and fills it with fluid (esp. with lots of tissue removed like breast-sized tissue). As TE expand and puts pressure on it and fills the space, the fluid might reabsorb into the normal tissue; just so the cavity stays filled one way or another. Compression helps restrain fluid and favor absorption, but if you're still in your post-surgical garments than I'm sure you've heard that already.

    That might not be helpful but if you've got TE they might be counting on the expansion process OR you might just need more time. I can't imagine fluid absorbs very quickly once it's between tissue and in a cavity. We're already made up mostly of liquid. I'd keep an eye on it though so it doesn't get forgotten as things progress for you.

  • myToyStory2
    myToyStory2 Member Posts: 162
    edited July 2016

    I'm sensing a theme in our recent posts - it's been long enough since our surgeries that we're all ready for a little more "normal" to return to our lives. We're ready to have our exercise routines back, our clothing fit us comfortably, our hands and feet to stop feeling pain, our drains to come out and our swelling to go down, our sleep routines to get back on track, our outcomes to become more predictable. "Normal" sounds so good. Cheers to us as we keep pushing our way toward some version of "normal"!

    I had my first follow-up appointment with the PS since my most recent hospitalization. Everything was looking better. One of my right side drains was removed, so I'm down to one last drain on my right side. It actually felt quite uncomfortable coming out - I wasn't expecting that - as the others have been a non-issue. The final drain is scheduled to come out next week (at the 8-week mark)...I'll be so ready! Then fills should start the following week....finally! Of course, this whole game plan was a 'deja vu' of my PS appt the day before my infection roared again earlier this month, so I treat it with guarded optimism. But I'm motivated by the dream of getting back to "normal". I did jokingly warn my PS, who is headed on vacation for 2 weeks, that holidays seem to be my triggers - I was first readmitted over Memorial Day weekend, then I had another surgery on Father's Day.... I'm already starting to fear the 4th....

  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited June 2016

    myToyStory2, here's hoping that you're "third-time-lucky" on the holidays and you don't run into any more problems! Glad to hear things are improving overall.

    And, yes, we're all ready to get back to "normal", and for the most part I'm back to all my normal activities and day-to-day schedules, but I'll tell ya right now, I'll never feel like my old "normal" again. I just stepped out of the shower and the sight of only one breast - and not even my own breast, but a weird-looking TE-filled breast - combined with the shriveled, puckered up mess that is my right side is quite a shock that I'll never, ever get over. I hope to God that when I get to retry the reconstruction on the right in September that it works because I'm not sure I'm mentally prepared for having that one flat side for the rest of my life.

    Hope everyone in the U.S. gets to enjoy a wonderful holiday week-end!

  • HelenWNZ
    HelenWNZ Member Posts: 485
    edited June 2016

    it's the weirdest thing to be recovering from surgery and have people ask how your going and your looking well. I don't feel sick but am so dreading the next few weeks when the cure is going to make me sick. I have my first oncology visit on 5 July and can't wait to start to catch any escapee cells.

    I am struggling with being lop sided and wish I had had both boobs off but that wasn't to be. Later down the track will check out options.

  • myToyStory2
    myToyStory2 Member Posts: 162
    edited June 2016

    Right there with you, Raven! ;)

    Good luck to you, Helen!

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2016

    I hear you. I miss "normal" severely. Been fighting for one month now to get into OT and FINALLY today the drs office put in the paperwork to get it approved - nearly 8 weeks after surgery/injury.

    If I have to hear the pollyanna-ish "well you'll find a new normal" one more time - I know it'll be a new normal, I'm missing body parts now! But then everything else, complications, and this infection I've had for five weeks now that isn't responding to antibiotics...ugh. I am so tired of pain and pills and trips to the hospital.

    Normal was so much better than this.

    Good luck to you Toystory & Raven & Helen. We just keep going, don't we?

  • MoreShoes
    MoreShoes Member Posts: 322
    edited July 2016

    Greykat, they've actually put in my file: "the patient doesn't want to hear "you've to accept it" anymore"

    Yep, I was getting sick and tired of having everyone telling me to accept the situation that I freaked out once and said that i NEVER want to hear that phrase again. I'm a frequent flyer at the hospital, unfortunately and I think they've put my name in red :)


  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited July 2016

    Moreshoes - you know what, that's kind of funny, that they actually stuck a note in your file about that. I needed something to smile about today. Thank you.




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