20 Questions for Your Oncologist, and word from the wise

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agness
agness Member Posts: 576
edited June 2016 in Just Diagnosed

I got a link to this in email today from Radical Remission author, Kelly Turner PhD. This set of questions is really important for you to know up front.

"My friend (and Radical Remission survivor) Chris Wark recently created a free guide for cancer patients called "20 Questions For Your Oncologist."

It's a 1-hour audio podcast where Chris explains the 20 questions, along with a printable list of the questions. I found it to be spot-on, and think every cancer patient should be asking these questions. I hope you also find it helpful. (Note: It's free, but you have to provide your email address)."

http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/20-questions-for-yo...


Me? I was where you were almost two years ago. I did ask many of these questions and I engaged with a FABNO naturopathic oncologist and a Chinese Medical practitioner who also knows medical qigong. I had a complete response to a new chemo but cancer cells from HER2 like the central nervous system and I almost died of a misdiagnosed brain tumor this summer (cancer didn't run in my family, I was young, still they thought I was metastatic at diagnosis -- and it turns out I was but asymptomatic and they don't check the brain of there aren't symptoms).

I have now spent a lot of time on boards with stage 4 patients, a place I would have been uncomfortable two years ago. What I am learning from these ladies and others who have been through treatment includes:

  • The drugs you take do affect outcomes -- but docs sometimes offer you the "standard of care" and it isn't the best targeted. One gal reported that after a successful course and tumor control with one set of drugs the next one cause rapid tumor growth beyond where she had started.
  • They talk about "individualized medicine" and you would think cancer treatment is cutting-edge but a lot of it is a crapshoot. In stage 4 treatment it is obvious that they don't know what they are doing, they make suppositions and guesses and sometimes they are wrong. My friend went from stage 1b HR+ to HER2+ lung mets 5 years later. They gave her anti-HER2 therapy but they failed to tell her there was a 1 cm patch of cancer in her hip. It's a year later and now she finds out about this patch and it is 6cm now and the anti-HER2 therapy didn't touch it. Bone mets are more likely HR+ And worse is knowing that if she just got rads to her hip last year it would probably be gone.
  • There are more tests that you can ask to have done. My naturopathic-onc typically checks serum levels of: magnesium, copper, zinc, ferritin, vitamin D. My hormone positive chemo group members also felt at a loss after treatment -- what hormones weren't they processing well? Doctors won't offer these tests but they don't cost that much relative to treatment and you are probably going to be getting lots of bloodwork anyway. It is your body and your wallet and you should insist or find someone who will check for you.
  • You can also get other testing done if you want, they don't tell you and insurance likely won't pay for it but for a few thousand dollars you can have your tumor tissue tested by Foundation One and you might find out you have some novel mutations. You might find better treatment options. I have found my report to be helpful in understanding that I don't have factors associated with chemo resistance. Oncology hasnt caught up with what to do with the reports yet but you know what? That isn't your problem. You deserve the best access to data about your disease because you might spend $350,000 ontreatment -- and besides it isn't their ass on the line, it's yours.

http://foundationone.com


BTW, Bestbird has been collecting the latest on breast cancer treatments, tests and complementary therapies here. Download her guide as it has top notch info that is often leagues ahead of anything your doc knows or will offer and it contains lots of info appropriate to any stage of breast cancer.

https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/8/topics/...


Also know that they hope you are cancer-free after this but no, they aren't looking for mets. They won't tell you. Their post treatment monitoring is fairly crappy (tell me about it) and they miss things all the time. Feel comfortable asking for more tests, ask around the boards and you will get lots of input as to whether you are approaching the problem correctly


Breast cancer, any cancer, is for sh!t anyway. But it isn't about baldness (you can protect your scalp BTW with cold caps -- look on the treatment boards) and pink ribbons -- this is about trying to save your ass. Do it well, do it better. Don't let them get in your way.

Go! Fight! Kill! Win!

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  • agness
    agness Member Posts: 576
    edited June 2016

    PS - they are learning more that cancer cells, CTCs (circulating tumor cells, basically his cancer spreads in the body, have instructions to look for certain tissues in the body. Where a recurrence is likely to happen for you is based upon the type of cancerous mutations, if treatment was targeted well, and if they got it in time.

    ----

    Breast cancer biological subtypes and protein expression predict for the preferential distant metastsis sites : a national cohort study
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3262199/

    From the abstract:

    "Luminal A cancers had a propensity to give rise first to bone metastases, HER2-enriched cancers to liver and lung metastases, and basal type cancers to liver and brain metastases. Primary tumors that gave first rise to bone metastases expressed frequently estrogen receptor (ER) and SNAI1 (SNAIL) and rarely COX2 and HER2, tumors with first metastases in the liver expressed infrequently SNAI1, those with lung metastases expressed frequently the epidermal growth factor receptor (EGFR), cytokeratin-5 (CK5) and HER2, and infrequently progesterone receptor (PgR), tumors with early skin metastases expressed infrequently E-cadherin, and breast tumors with first metastases in the brain expressed nestin, prominin-1 and CK5 and infrequently ER and PgR."


    PS - HER2, triple negative and certain lobular breast cancers have a propensity for the central nervous system.

  • agness
    agness Member Posts: 576
    edited June 2016

    PS - here's the latest from the San Antonio Breast Cancer Symposium.

    http://drsusanloveresearch.org/blogs/cvo-report-sa...

    You doc is not going to be up on these practices yet including:

    Lymph mode dissection does not improve overall survival. Rads to lymph nodes is sufficient and carries a lower risk of lymphedema.

    Lumpectomy has a better survival rate than mastectomy -- less is more

    Mastectomy with reconstruction is twice as likely to develop complications than with lumpectomy and rads.

    And to reiterate -- make sure you know what you are fighting, it can be more than one cell line and getting the right treatment matters

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