Anyone Starting Chemo in June 2016
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DistrictGirl -- I'm 45. For the last few years I've felt nothing but the advancing of age, aching knees, graying hair, wrinkling... everything... and I was not handling it with dignity or grace. Now... I've got breast cancer, and everyone can't stop talking about how young I am. Go figure.
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Morning Ladies,
Hope everyone is feeling a little more positive about LIFE today and feeling healthy and well. Remember all of us are in the chemo forum now, so that being said, NONE of us actually have cancer anymore...this is something my wee dad says to me every single day. Bless his wee cotton socks! If we have had surgery then it is removed and even if in nodes, then the chemo is stopping it as we speak. I think we sometimes forget the obvious. In the UK, one of our TV journalists called Victoria Derbyshire, had breast cancer last year and on the evening after her operation she lay in bed and said this:
Her message is simple, but it is TRUE. I am now asking us all to start our day with a positive affirmation and that is: I AM CANCER FREE and IT IS NOT COMING BACK EVER.
Say it every morning and every night.
Breaking news over here in Scotland is that Dollydimples has started yoga!!! My sister is a very clever girl and in addition to her job she is also training for a yoga qualification. She has now said she will do yoga with me. We got started yesterday (I suppose the above paragraph gave it away really) and it was calming and soothing and wonderful. It helps reduce the rush of cortisol that comes with stress. It is this stress hormone that is apparently causing our bodies damage and cancer is one of those things that damages us. So I have decided to seriously undertake this yoga thing. I have not YET purchased dungarees and cheesecloth tops or started wearing open-toed sandals whilst eating brown rice...but there is definitely something in this yoga. I have enrolled at the gym to get to as many classes as possible.
NattyB, I have also done the cupboard thing and laughed at your remarks about-out-of-date tinned foods. Some of your stuff, sounds like the Imperial War Museum might would have been interested!! I ventured under my bed before chemo to hoover and clean out dust etc....jeez it was like a scene from Miss Havisham's banquet table. Once you start cleaning before chemo, it becomes an obsession and a task and a half. I suspect all chemo patients must have the cleanest houses haha.
Moondust thanks for comments about my hair. I certainly don't have thin hair (don't have thin anything!) and on this occasion and I am more than happy to say I have fat hair and long may it stay fat and chubby. I also have no probs with the leg hair or further down hair, going. In fact would make life easier. I think though that my eyebrows might bother me. I think I may look like a painted boiled egg. But hey...it is NOTHING. It is just hair and I am keeping myself alive by doing this. I am also not out that much. So will just Howard Hughes it, until I have hair all back.
Labscientist, say hello to your hubby from me!! We seem to be teaching in similar topics. I notice your name is Angela too....well.. well guess what my name is??? Go on, have just ONE guess! Glad you are feeling a bit better and happy and that I am not the only freak constantly touching my head and hair. I have visions of standing in the supermarket and then clumps just suddenly fall out all over the cashier desk or worse still, if I listen to Moondust, and have it fall first from any other region!! I may just shop for groceries online now. More pleasant experience for all.
Krekre, you are doing well. You are now being active and positive about taking moves to fight this thing off! The buying of your nail polish, slouchy hats etc is all part of that. And the crazy and fear and panic is a clear sign that you are normal and sane. Even the thinking that this will 'reposition' is normal too. But you need to be done with that. The brain is the most powerful thing in your body. I believe that if you get that right, then you will be cured. This chemo kills things....so it is going to kill any wee loose cells in your body too! BELIEVE that and it will be so. The majority of people get rid of this cancer and never see it again. So just remember that!
Revnet, hello. Hope the port op goes well and you are doing OK with this cancer thing, so far!
Helen...if you are cold capping, I might be tempted to keep hair the length it is. As said before it gives us the option of changing partings and moving it around the head haha
Dolly (will remain as Dolly so as not to confuse things with labscientist Angela)
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Spending today making appointments to try on wigs! Can't wrap my head around the vision of me without my "mermaid hair" but gotta get real here. I didn't know there were SO MANY different types of wigs! Anyone have any suggestions as far as material (human hair, synthetic, lace-front, etc.)?
*hugs* all around!
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so I met with my PS today for the all clear and the stitching on the left boob is not not staying closed 😟
The next step is installing a PICO device for negative pressure wound therapy. I'm having that done tomorrow morning and then after that my bone scan. A busy day! I'm just a little depressed that the suture is not healing like we want it to. If I wasn't scheduled for chemo it would be no big deal. I'm triple positive so we are reaching the 60 day mark that we should be starting chemo but at the same time I want to be all healed up. Did I say I feel like screaming! On another note ever since my port surgery on the right side I've had this tender area at the top of my right bicep. It feels like it's pulling from the port. It's not a clot but they want to X-ray it so I'll probably have one more test to add on for tomorrow. Sorry I'm feeling crabby and I just need to vent !
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Oh Heathet! I feel your total frustration. Please vent all you want! I wonder why the stitches are taking so much time to heal up. Make sure to eat extra protein to promote healing. My port caused a few strange sensations at the top of my bicep for a few days but now it feels fine. Maybe yours will improve with time too.
KNardo, I went with synthetic wigs. They are much less expensive than human hair and easier to care for. My insurance will pay for one wig, but I ended up getting two. You cannot style synthetic wigs with a curling iron, so if that is important, you need to go with real hair. But most of them are pre-styled, and the wig shop can cut the length to what you want whether real or synthetic. The wigs I bought have a very light, open weave cap for summer. I also got a Hair Grip, which is a band that velcroes around the head to help hold the wig tightly in place. I got wig shampoo and conditioner also. The American Cancer Society has a nice wig and head covering catalog - www.tlcdirect.org. Their wigs are very inexpensive. I am tempted to try one of theirs too, once my hair goes.
Dolly, I'll be checking the UK headlines for an update on your yoga endeavor! But I would be worried about attending a class when my immune system is down. During chemo, I am using an online trainer to keep me exercising. I will do two 30 minute sessions a week in the comfort of my home. He is very reasonable ($20 a session) and works with any equipment you have, or no equipment at all. For make up, I went to a class that taught chemo make up. We learned how to draw in some eyebrows, etc. People won't even give you a second look if you draw in some fake eyebrows. There is a lot on youtube too. Have fun with it! Victoria's message is one every breast cancer patient needs to take to heart!
Angela, I'm in your pocket tomorrow! Weekly infusions must be such a hassle! I had some diarrhea yesterday after I took dulcolax to help with the constipation. It worked rather too well. Today I seem back to normal.
Welcome, revnet. If you have time, please fill out your profile and make it Public so we can all be reminded of your diagnosis and treatment. My memory was bad to start with and is only getting worse.
Krekre, your photo must be from 10 years ago. You do NOT look in your 40's! I'm glad you are finding such good support with the therapist and the house cleaners. My house is beyond hope. I'm just praying my weakened immune system is so used to all the dirt and germs that it will keep on truckin'. I think you will feel better mentally once you have the first treatment under your belt.
I'm not feeling too bad today, but the scale went down again, to 118.5. WTH! I don't think I have weighed that little since I was 10 years old! I track all my food, so I know exactly how many calories are going in. Yesterday I ate 2750 calories, Saturday was 3300 (milk shake, peanut butter, subway tuna sandwich, etc), and Friday was 2300. No way I should be losing. Maybe it is dehydration although I'm still forcing myself to chug water and milk. My energy has never left but I'm not doing anything strenuous. Yesterday I mowed part of the lawn and did some cooking. Today I'll do some organizing. All my insurance mail is sitting in a pile for me to go through and file.
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Moondust, I have watched Victoria a lot on youtube as she is a good advert for chemo and BC in general. I hope we ALL remember her message on our bad days. Have you any clue why you are losing so much weight? Are you eating fattening foods? I watched a clever video on youtube about what to eat during chemo and they were pretty much advocating a diet that they said they would never advocate for a BC survivor after they are off chemo. Get munching on creamy puds and custards and chocolate.
Heathet, I am so sorry to hear about your wound. Do they know what is causing it to take so long to heal?
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Heathet, trust me I know how frustrated you are. I had a tissue expander infection 2 weeks after my surgery and then had to have it removed on Memorial Day! Now, I am uniboob. Today, I went in to get my port flushed and the nurses couldn't find it. Now, I have to go back tomorrow to general surgery to see if they can find it. If my husband wasn't there, I would have been a puddle. It's bad enough that this jerky cancer had to mess up my summer. With all of the complications, I am waiting for the next shoe to drop! I just want to start chemo already to get it over with.
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Dolly, I am eating foods I have not allowed myself to have in years! Grilled sandwiches with cheese and butter, ice cream, milkshakes, peanut butter, waffles, etc. Still trying to fit in my veggies, but I'm having them creamed rather than steamed
I am a diligent food tracker, so I KNOW that I am eating plenty of excess calories. Maybe it is just water weight leaving. There's no way I can drink any more. My eyeballs are floating most of the time.Cwhitney, how can they lose a port??? That is amazing and distressing!! Please keep us updated as to its whereabouts, and I'll be in your pocket tomorrow for the procedure. I'm so sorry!!
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Moondust, That is great that you are cramming fatty stuff in. I hope you are enjoying it...I absolutely am. I think you will be the size of a bus soon enough. You certainly sound like you are eating very well and drinking lots of water, which is my downfall. I am more of a coffee addict and diet coke addict. I am going to try tomorrow to be more like you and drink lots more water.
CWhitney, I am with Moondust. How on earth is a port LOST? I mean I get that it might move position, but losing it in a sort of Bermuda triangle type way...I don;t get that at all. Are they pretty small things? We don't use ports too often here in UK. Probably to do with money. I asked about having one and they said no need and to use veins first!!!
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Hi krekre, I am a clinical laboratory scientist, so I work doing lab testing on patient specimens at a hospital laboratory, and also in the blood bank. I am not usually someone who wears nailpolish (much to the relief and joy of my husband, who loathes the smell of it). however, I can do research, here's an article: http://blog.birchbox.com/post/19790488420/protect-...
basically says that most nail polish has UV blockers but mentions a top coat to also protect. SO, sounds like a good idea to me. Hope that helps. I am using the clear nail strengthener that came with the AVOPlex from Amazon. It seemed like an easy thing to help my nails be stronger. I guess nails falling out is a rarer side effect of the taxol, but I would like to avoid that if possible. I was quoting Dr.Seuss on one of these boards recently, (I do not like it, Sam I am) and I have to say, it seems very appropriate, becasue this whole process IS very crazy! Weird and surreal and crazy! I am thankful for many friends and family that are so amazingly supportive and encouraging. I am taking it one day at a time and leaning on Jesus. Not sure how else to do it...well, I could be running around screaming, but that isn't really very helpful for anyone.
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CWhitney: what a total bummer and if it were me, I would be screaming, you LOST it?? so did your body get good and p**d off and eat it? LOL, this is just too weird, you can't make this stuff up! What an incredibly stupid, crazy thing. I am so sorry.
to Dolly: the port is about the size of an american quarter, or the circle you make with thumb and finger to say OK. They are supposed to make a little pocket between the skin and muscle for it, and then put permanent stitch or two to keep it from moving. I am glad to have mine, it took them 5 times to get an IV for the port surgery. The thought of doing that every week is terrible.
Heathet, do eat more protein to help with healing! Hopefully you can start chemo soon anyway. I do think the doing is better than the waiting.
Moondust: I have been reading a lot on weekly taxol vs every 2 or 3 weeks, and the research is good that it is as effective if not more so. Less side effects and allergic stuff, which evidently as an irritant people get a lot, and also weekly addresses that the chemo only shoots down cells as they are dividing, so its getting in there more often to do its dirly work. The science sounds good to me.
Dollydimples (Angela is such a good name!): I agree, the cancer is gone, and I am doing this so it never comes back! Kill it all dead. I make everyone laugh when we talk about specific prayers (Jesus says we have not because we ask not) so asking for folks to pray that the cancer cells shrivel up and DIE!! I am feeling better today, no horrible stomach cramps like I have alien growing inside. I took my son to karate camp and went to the chiropractor and even the grocery store. My guts are still spitting stuff out without doing much with it, but at least I am not flat on my back or on the toilet like yesterday. Hope the medicine makes a difference soon, and my infusion tomorrow doesn't set it off again! Moondust I have been losing weight too, but eating healthy. Maybe we are using more calories building new cells where the healthy cells are shot down with the cancer.??
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I just had first Taxotere/cytoxan chemo last Friday 6/10. By middle of day on Saturday my face neck and chest were very red and flushed like I had a sunburn. Two days later it's not any better. Does anyone know if that is from the chemo or the decadron? I just finished my last dose of decadron last night at 10 pm.
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For those trying to keep your weight up, you might want to try avocados. My naturopath has me eating at least one a day. They contain good fat and lots of calories. I eat grain free and dairy free and struggle with maintaining my weight. My plan for chemo days is to have lots of chicken soup and avocados and fruit popsicles. Plus coconut milk. That also has a lot of calories. You can use it in place of water for smoothies plus use it as milk in your coffee/tea.
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CarolAG: I had the same thing the day after chemo as the benedryl wore off. The infusion nurse I called said it was from the steroids. (she says, Oh, I didn't mention it because not everyone experiences it.) She went on to say it can make your skin break out too (isn't that lovely?!?) Mine went away as I stopped taking the steroid. I have been only taking 1/2 a dose the day after chemo and it seems some better. If it's still there tomorrow it wouldn't hurt to call infusion center or MO and ask about it. I have been cleaning my face well with Simple wipes inthe evening and Simple cleanser in the shower. So far no breakouts. Yay, you are a soldier killing cancer!!
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Labscientistmom: Thank you so much for your reply. The nurse did mention I would probably get some flushing but wasn't expecting it to be so red. I had 20 mg decadron infused before starting the Taxotere and then they prescribed two more days of 4 mg twice a day. From what I've seen others posting that seems like quite a large dose. Maybe explains why it's hanging around. Does that sound like a high dose of steroid to anyone?
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CarolAG, you are soooo welcome. These boards are such a blessing to be able to share this process with sisters going thru it. I am happy when I have a chance to help others too.
So I take 8 mg the day before, 8mg the day of, and 4mg the day after. Ask if you can pass on the 2nd day after. Also its better to take the dose all in the morning as it disrupts sleep less. (that's what the infusion RN instructed me.) Now, that said, I have to have a CAT scan this WEd, the day after my infusion, so I get to take the full dose on Wed and 4mg on thurs to be sure to not have a icky reaction to the contrast dye. Getting my scan done, YAY, taking more steroids, BOO
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Hi all, been catching up on all your posts. What a lovely positive bunch of women in here. Love all the support going on

KNardo88 - About wigs, I tried a bunch of things and wasted some money before I was happy. Synthetic is for sure way less expensive but I like my real hair one the best. I just ended up getting one that was shorter than my natural hair was (less $$), but it actually is a cute length. I like my synthetic ones too, they just have a bit of different shine to them. Either way the monofilament tops make them look way more natural because they can part. Lace front is also really natural looking. I figured I now have options for a variety of settings.
I also LOVE the baseball cap I bought with hair attached. You can get ones with ponytails on them as well. It's about the same weight as wearing a hat and I wear it every day for my walks. I got it from headcovers.com along with some soft caps and wig care products.
Well...counting down until treatment number two on Thursday! Trying to eat healthy and keep moving. Love to you all!
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Dollydipples123- they're not sure why it's taking so long to heal. My right side has healed and looks great. My PS has a theory - he said that he noticed in patients injected with the blue dye for the sentinel nodes they tend to heal slower on the side they were injected. He says it's just his observation. On my left side they took out 7 lymph nodes so maybe that's why it's still a little swollen and not healing. I am upping my protein intake so hopefully that will help.
Cwhitney- I am so ready to get the ball rolling too! These bumps in the roads are no fun - it's the waiting!
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Labscientistmom: good luck with your CAT scan. I am allergic to the contrast dye so they normally just run without if they can. Hope it all goes well.
And yes I'm taking in total of 36mg of decadron vs your total 20mg. Thats a huge difference. Yes next appointment I will tell doc about this and see if I can't slow down on the dosage. Thanks for the advice.
Take care
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Here is a question. I notice lots of people talking about scans and cat scans and MRIs etc before chemo. I asked the oncologist about all of this and was told I did not need these. Anybody know why? I would imagine they would want to have a baseline of my lungs etc before chemo.
I also have not got a stage yet (I keep forgetting to ask huim!) Anybody know what sort of stage I might be with a 1.5cm lump, grade 2, also 1/3 SNLB (micrometastases) and ER and PR positive and HER2 negative. At the time of my multidisciplinary meeting they were unsure as to whether to give me chemo or not and then decided to based on my age and fact I could handle it.
I would love to be a 1B....but only coz I had thought I was 1A to start with.
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CarolAG,
I asked if it was absolutely necessary for me to have steroids as I have diabetes and they said no and that they could work out other meds for me which did not include steroids. I did have steroids in the infusion, but none before and none after.
I also had a face like a raspberry after chemo.
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Heathet,
I have heard about blue dye causing problems at times. My surgeon did not use blue dye on me. Think he used some sort of radioactive tracer pen or something and think it was due to diabetes and fact that they did not want wound having any probs healing as diabetic wounds can be difficult and get infected etc.
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I was just reviewing my steroid doses. The day before, day of, and day after I take four 4mg pills for a total of 16 mg. I also get 10 mg more in my infusion. That comes out to 16 mg day before, 26 mg day of, and 16 mg day after. That is a total of 58 mg! A lot more than you, CarolAG and Angela. I didn't seem to have a reaction to it, although the tenosynovitis in my wrist felt a lot better for a few days. It is weird how every place gives a different amount - a little disconcerting. My nurse also recommended taking the second pill dose early so it would not keep me awake.
Dolly, after reading the stage descriptions on this site, I would guess that you are Stage 1B. What are you doing up so late? I guess it stays light until very late in Scotland! Do you get a break from teaching during the summer?
Elocea, I am thinking about getting the baseball cap with bangs and a ponytail. Do you take steroids the day before infusion, or does AC not require that?
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Hi Dolly - I would guess Stage 1B too along with Moondust since your tumor is <2cm and the B for the node but ask your doc. I'm not diabetic but I was told I would only get steroids as a pre-med, none for home use. I asked if they were negotiable and she said, yes, a lower dose. I'm sure she saw that I was envisioning myself as a hot air balloon. I have no prescriptions yet for nausea or anything so I'm hoping they give me a doggie bag when I go on Wednesday, good times.
Heathet - geez. Sorry about your wound - my bad side took a lot longer to heal and my drain holes are still kinda gross and scabby and sometimes leaky. The other side is totally healed so what your Ps said makes sense to me based on my healing. Hugs to you.
Knardo - I went to a wig store and tried on about 20 wigs. It was crazy. I also stood outside in the daylight to see what they looked like in natural light too at the advice of the wig lady. I went with synthetic since the maintenance is easier and while not cheap, they are less expensive. The had a natural hair one in there that was several (like 5) thousand dollars. I asked if it was made from the hair of royals - she didn't think I was as funny as my mom and sister did:) I purchased one (my insurance supposedly covers one) and then I came home and ordered the other one I was interested in online (pay attention to the brand and color when you are shopping)- for about 180 less than the wig store. Kinda ticked me off that I paid too much in the store for the other one. I did the lace caps and the hairline is really amazing. Check out Wigs.com and wigoutlet.com (same company). My hair guy said there is a powder you can use to reduce the shiny so I will look into that.
Krekre - I hear you all the way around. I'm loving hearing I am young but the only women I know who had Bc were younger than me (they are both doing pretty well) and there are so many women at the breast center it's like being at a good sale at the mall.
Elocea - I'm intrigued by the hats with the hair. I'm looking for a few decent ball cap style that comes down lower, haven't seen any yet. There are so many of the cloche (?) styles that look cute on the models but not on my dome - I look like I'm playing dress up:)
Welcome to the new friends - sorry you are here but glad you are HERE:)
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Moondust - I take 4mg of dexamethasone the day after my infusion and the next two days. Apparently that's just a small dose and I'll be taking a ton more once I'm into my 12 weeks of taxol.
NattyB & Moondust (and anyone else who is interested!) - I snapped a quick picture to show you the coverage of the hair on mine. Since it has more than a ponytail and covers the 'sideburns' area, I find it's really hard to tell the difference from my old hair, even in person. I wore it grocery shopping today and had no funny looks at all! The only annoying thing about it is I find the hair either wants to flip in or out, and you can't use heat on it because it's synthetic. I just need to take the time some day to wet it and/or steam it out a bit to get rid of the flip.
Anyway, hope that helps you gals!
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Nextyear sorry for the delayed response... Yeah days 3-5 for me I am just out of it. Can't concentrate on anything. Would be nice to be able to chill on the couch and watch mindless tv but I can't concentrate long enough to focus on even that! I can't remember a thing from Friday around 8pm until Noon on Sunday... Honestly it's just a blur of sleeping and weird dreams. But thankfully I am coming out of it now and I feel "normal" again... Like the fog is lifting.
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I had BMX ( I think that's the abbreviation for bilateral mastectomy) on June 1 with axillary lymph node removal on the left side. Also reconstruction began with expanders being placed during surgery. I have not had my 1st fill yet. I had 2 drains that both came out on June 8th...7days after surgery! My surgeon had originally told me the right side would probably come out earlier than the left..but they took them both out the same day. I was excited & relieved at first, but now I'm wondering if it was too soon. My right side (prophylactic side) is fine but the left side where the cancer was is swollen...I'm so stiff & tight on that side it starts under my breast area & goes around my side where a bra would sit between my arm pit & rib cage it is very tight & swollen when it gets closer to my back it is very loose & jiggly. It has taken a few days but I'm pretty sure it is fluid. I see my surgeon this Thursday but not sure if he can do anything about it because he told me everything to do with drains etc is in the hands of plastic surgeon now & I don't see him until the 23rd. I'm thinking I will make a phone call tomorrow because I can't even put my arm down...I'm walking around like a weight lifter that is so built he has to keep his arms held away from his sides lol...my hubby thinks it's kind of funny when I say that that. Anyways I start Chemo later this month or early July my MO said it's up to me. I will be on the Ac-Taxol chemo...AC every 3 weeks for 3 months (a total of 4 treatments) & then I start Taxol 1 treatment a week for 12 weeks. I am so new to all this I have no clue what to look forward to. I felt like a mac truck hit me coming out of surgery but it had gotten much better & if I didn't have this fluid/swelling or whatever it is I would feel 200 times better. If anyone has any advice I would greatly appreciate it.
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First chemo infusion in 3 days. My sweet husband took me to Cheesecake Factory for a date so I could enjoy a wonderful meal with no side effects. Then tonight a burger and fries at Applebee's. I almost hope I don't have taste buds for a few days after chemo so I can loose the weight I have gained! It seems like lots of waiting to begin the dreaded chemo. Surgery was March 10th and lots of complications to delay. Before cancer I was 50 years old with no health issues at all. Now.... A new journey is before me. So many people ask me how I am..... Truth is it changes from moment to moment. It still doesn't seem real. As if the surgeon telling me I have cancer, the partial mycetomy, infection, wound care, cellulitis and lymphedema weren't enough. Soon I will add the infusion of chemo drugs to the list. It is about to get real. I pray we all experience healing from this disease. I pray we all experience the grace, peace and love that only Jesus can bring
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Dollydimple by the Breast Cancer standard big pamphlet I got from the surgeon, you are Stage 2A, with invasive cancer less than 2 cm and in 4 or fewer lymph nodes. also, re: scans, if your tumor markers are negative, then technically you should not have any obvious cancer growing anywhere. I am getting a cat scan becasue both my mom (colon) and sister (Breast) were stage 4 at diagnosis with stuff in their liver, and it came back there on both of them. My mom died when I was 6, and my sister just a couple years ago. I am getting abdomen/pelvis CT because I asked, and my MO says chest xray was sufficient to check my lungs. If you want it, push for it, just may need authorization like I did depending on insurance. Hope this helps, A
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Llroseworld- I totally understand where you are coming from! I was diagnosed May 10 & had a bilateral mastectomy June 1. Prior to this I was a 36 year old with no health problems...none...no medications for anything...Ithe had been really hard to swallow & often doesn't feel real. I go for a heart scan tomorrow ro be sure my heart can handle the squeezing as my Oncologist put it & then I have to have a port put in (I'm not sure why they didn't put it in during surgery) & chemo will start within the next few weeks..I'm scared, freaking out...trying to be strong so I don't freak my teenagers & 10 year old out. People ask me how I am doing & how I feel & I agree it changes from moment to moment. I'm just ready to feel normal again! Good luck to you.
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