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  • kbutler
    kbutler Member Posts: 66
    edited June 2016

    sawyer I had heart burn start a few days after I finished radsbut only lasted about a week or so maybe it was just coincidental. Paxton I was fortunate enough to get real cloth gowns. I always wore pants and shirts. Never thought about taking shorts or yoga pants. Great idea

  • PlanB58
    PlanB58 Member Posts: 157
    edited June 2016

    Ingerp- This week's theme song would be an old MC Hammer tune. "U Can't Touch This!" Very sore and itchy now.

    New Girl- I also find it amazing we have such different instructions for skin care. I was told today to keep at the aquafor,aloe,and cortisone. I was also told to try Alieve or Motrin for the pain inflammation.

    I am jealous of our friends with the Canadian Protocol. It seems to be helpful to get the full dose in shorter time probably due to the compounding effects of the rads.

    Here's hoping for no worsening SE's this week. 20 down 5 more WB 5 boosts to go!

    Have a radiant week everyone

  • Deaconlady
    Deaconlady Member Posts: 158
    edited June 2016

    #20 done! 5 regular and 5 boosts. My breast is darker and my nipple is practically black. Very sensitive to touch now too, We have knee length cloth gowns. I have to make sure the girls stay in. They do try to escape! 😁

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited June 2016

    I'm starting rads sometime in July, and wondered about the cold cabbage leaves? Has anyone done this? Any other cool down tips?

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited June 2016

    I have a hard time keeping up! Lol! Amazing how different all places are. I found the hydrocortisone helped tremendously with itching. I put it on first and let it soak in the skin real well, then put any other cream on. I had a hospital gown that opened in the front and wore tree he same one everyday, I left it hanging in my locker after every treatment. I just took one arm out for treatment. I had itching all over, so used the hydrocortisone all over. Yay to all finished with rads! To all still g wrt ting treatments, it gets better! I didn't really start seeing much improvement until about 2 1/2 weeks after. Almost 4 weeks done and still have discolored hair follicles, some peeling and discoloration, but at least the itching is gone! I don't care about the rest lol!!Special shout out to Grazy, mags, and loves!!!!!!! HUGS!!!

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016
    Normally I actually got to Kitchener Waterloo quite regularly, but right now I have some limitations on work and I'm not travelling that far. I wish I was cause I'd love to meet up! I'm sure I'm fine with the Glaxol base!
  • Katzpjays
    Katzpjays Member Posts: 237
    edited June 2016

    LTF - awesome new hair! I

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited June 2016

    Grazy--I am following you closely because you were on a similar schedule but a couple of weeks ahead of me. I have last whole breast today and am hoping that area peaks and starts to heal quickly. Please continue the skin updates. You're giving me a peek into my future. :-)

    Sawyer--I too have been asked about heartburn/difficulty eating/swallowing as SEs but have never really had issues with heartburn so am not surprised I'm not experiencing any. Maybe do what you read? Eat early, no spicy foods, stay upright for several hours after eating?

    PlanB--sorry for the current theme song. Maybe "Touch Me in the Morning" will be up next? Or "Smooth"?

    Valstim--I did buy a cabbage before starting but have yet to use it and doubt I will. I googled it before I bought it and apparently it's been a thing for engorged breasts (think nursing) for ages, and also for bum knees!!

    Just re: gowns, outfits, and such--I'm fortunate working from home so I wear fairly grubby clothes to tx. I just make sure my pants are fairly low (does everybody get the infrared camera sensor taped on their bellies?), I keep my shoes on, and I get one cloth gown--opens in back but I don't even bother tying it. I move the right-side tie over to left side and hold it in my left hand while I walk into the treatment room. Easy-peasy.

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited June 2016

    Ingerp, "Sisters in Radiation", we are ;) I'd say my skin peaked yesterday because this morning my boost area is also beginning to turn a light tan and the itchiness has subsided substantially - I'm four days post-boosts now. I do acknowledge that I got off pretty darn easy. The whole breast area never got more than a light pink and had already started to tan by the time I was mid-way through the week of boosts. Yay, for our shorter protocol here.

    Upon closer examination this morning, I noticed that I have some very, very tiny bumps on part of the boost area, which I presume are irritated hair follicles and that's what has been itchy, but as I said, the Glaxal Base cream helps to settle down the area (I'm just mildly itchy right now); setting a cold washcloth for five minutes on the area yesterday helped too. My issues are very minor. I had some sharp jabs in the lymph nodes yesterday and felt quite tired all day as well, but today I feel fine. Weird, weird, weird. I'm just goin' with the flow!

    You might as well make coleslaw now with your cabbage!!

    Wishing everyone a radiant day :)

  • Carlsoda
    Carlsoda Member Posts: 249
    edited June 2016

    Good morning! Today I go in for my simulation (as well as a bone scan - boo!) and am looking forward to getting to know you all. I have been reading your posts so I think I am somewhat prepared for this next step. Has anyone else felt like surgery was the easy part? I am so sick of going to the hospital for multiple tests with either X-rays or radioactive material injected into me!

    My plan is 30 treatments with the last 5 being boosters. I don't have a start date yet, just waiting for my oncotype test results any day now!

    And a hello to my Canadian sisters! I was born and raised in Ontario and now living in the States.

    Hope everyone has a wonderful day and finds something that makes you smile :)

  • Jacklin
    Jacklin Member Posts: 162
    edited June 2016

    Hello Canadian sisters, I'm also a southern Ontario girl. I start radiation on Friday and am SO looking forward to the end of treatment. This certainly has been quite the 'ride', one I can do without, that's for sure.

    Thanks for all the tips here, I'm going out later today to buy an aloe plant for sure.

    Carlsoda, not sure I can say surgery was the easy part, I'm still very sore, especially around the outer edges of what used to be my breasts. It almost feels like there's a fire going on in there. There's no signs of infection, and I've just finished 2 weeks of Keflex for an anaerobic skin infection just under the incision site. Like you', I'm tired of going to the hospital and even more tired of being poked. This leads to another question, did you find that you became more sensitive to needles during treatment?

    Here's hoping everyone has an excellent day today. Stay dry if you're in Ontario!!

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited June 2016

    Carlsoda and Jacklin - welcome and good luck with your rads! Hopefully neither one of you has to drive too far for treatment.

    Jacklin, you're not kidding about the 'stay dry if you're in Ontario' part, and we had a massive windstorm yesterday before the pounding rain came - I thought my gazebo was going airborne yesterday during those ten minutes, the thing was really rocking - whew! Instead, I just lost tree limbs The street my daughter's high school is on took a hit with a little twister and beautiful old trees were completely uprooted and fences were blown over, yellow caution tape all over the place blocking off side streets. Lot of chainsaws going this morning! Don't know if you got the same wind wherever you live in ON.

    LTF/Jill - next time I'm heading up the 404 through Richmond Hill, I should PM you and maybe I could stop off for a quick coffee! Would be fun to meet up and I could admire your new hair -- is it coming in any better yet?

    LG - your surgery date is Thursday, right? Correct me if I've got the date wrong! Hope you're holding up well- I've been thinking about you!! Hugs

  • New-girl
    New-girl Member Posts: 358
    edited June 2016

    So now we know how different our skin advice is from the doctors what about the routine for treatment?

    I go downstairs to what I call the dungeon.  No cell service.  I go into the ladies dressing room where two curtains are stocked with nice folded cotton gowns.  Breast cancer patients close in front, others I have noticed close in back.  Larger sizes are in the closet.  Once you have undressed and put your belongings in a bag they give you the first day, you wait in the room until your name is called.  No drinks or food is allowed in here and there is nothing to read and no tv so we all talk everyday.  We are allowed to keep our shoes on and there are 9 treatments rooms.  There is a monitor that tells you what rooms are running behind and which ones are on schedule.  We always have the same treatment room.  When we are called, we are escorted down the hall to our treatment room.  We give our birthday and they have a picture of us on the monitor.  We go into the room and leave our purses and clothes bag on the chair.  A soft sheet is on the table and most of the time there is no music or above table tv.  Sometimes there is so I am not sure who decides what to have on each day.  Every 6 days we have xrays along with treatment.  Normal day takes about 8 minutes once in the treatment room.  After we are done we go back to the changing room and throw our cotton gown into the dirty laundry bag.

    Before treatment started I was given a nice folder with a DVD and sheets telling me what to expect.  It had on it the three tech I would have everyday.  Since that time almost 4 weeks ago, each day has been new techs.  Somedays this is no big deal but there is one tech who takes very little time adjusting me and we get in and out very fast.  Today I had all new people who could not get the adjustments correct.  Finally they did but my arms were badly contorted and sore when I left.  Hope my favorite tech is back tomorrow.  Anyone else deal with musical techs everyday?

    Doctor visits are very inconsistent too.  My doctor barely is in the room before she shoots out.  Never has looked under my arm.  Last week she was gone so I had the one everyone seems to adore.  She examined me and looked at my back, underarm and forearm.  Sat in the room and answered questions.  Wow what a difference.  So again more inconsistencies. 

    Curious if the Canadian experience is as different as the amount of treatments they give.  Curious also about the shoe thing.  Cleanliness?  And definitely happy to get the cotton gowns. 

  • Paxton29
    Paxton29 Member Posts: 221
    edited June 2016

    Sheesh, I'm an outcast in my paper gown!

    I'm bummed because the machine was down today and I still have 15 more treatments; won't be done until the end of June. You Canadian ladies are lucky!

    My routine: most days I barely have to wait at all; some days they come grab me before I even sit down in the waiting room. There is a changing area with the paper gowns. Sometimes I have to wait a minute or two for the previous patient to come out but oftentimes they just send me right in. I leave my shirt in a locker in the changing area but keep my purse.

    My name is on the monitor. There is a sheet on the table and they stick a wedge under my legs and put a rubber band around my feet to keep me still. I have the same techs: Jean, John, Megan and sometimes Jake. All are pleasant. On bolus days they lay it on my legs until needed. If I have on a skirt they put a sheet over my legs, either for warmth or modesty I guess. I'm usually in the room about 10 minutes, a little longer on bolus days.

    My doctor days start with the nurse weighing me and taking vital signs. She asks me questions and looks at my skin. The RO looks now too and basically confirms I'm doing ok. He was on vacation last week and the visiting RO did look me over more closely and give some detailed instructions on lotion application (I wasn't covering enough ground), but it was only last week that I had any SEs. This guy also thought I had barely started filling my TEs and when I told him they were full he said, oh, that's great, some women want these ginormous breasts .... LOL. Not very good cover, doc. You just have to laugh.

  • iammags
    iammags Member Posts: 216
    edited June 2016

    LG- Hi, to you, too! Good luck on Thursday, I'll be thinking about you. I know that you'll do just fine. :) I won't be on here much for the next couple of weeks. My son is graduating from 8th grade (can't believe it. time has flown) then we're off to Mexico on vaca. Relaxing and having a couple of yummy drinks. That's life...at least for 10 days or so.

    So, be well and heal quickly.

    Have a great week and good luck to all.

    #Radiate(d)This!!! #LeavinOnAJetPlane #GoodLuckToAll

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016

    Grazy I would love that!

    I check in by scanning my barcode at a computer, and then wait in the waiting room. It is large and spacious, with Wi-Fi, knitting basket where people are working on scarves for charity, and there's a cafeteria attached so I can get a snack or drink if I want, although I don't always have time to eat it!

    I usually get there about half hour early (because I give myself an hour to get there, in case I run into trouble with traffic or parking, usually I don't but it's a busy hospital in a busy area so I like to be sure), and often they take me in early. If not they usually get in on time. Once or twice they've taken me in late but usually they don't.

    Once they call me I go to a waiting area outside the radiation units, where there is a change rooms. The gowns are in the change room, they are fabric I put one that opens in the back, and then another one that opens in the front. I don't bother tying either of them.

    Then I wait outside the change rooms, usually it's a very short wait before they call me into the unit. They confirm my date of birth and my appointment for the next day. Then the outside down comes often gets laid on the bed, and I lay on it they take my right arm out of the sleeve of the other one, to expose my breast for the marketing and measuring. I do not have a belt although I did have the option, so I just lay still while they check my measurements, and then leave the room while I get the treatment. Right before the treatment starts she always calls out my name, my birthday, and the words "no bolus no belt" and the other tech confirms.

    I am always in the same unit, there are 12 units and like somebody else mentioned there is a monitor in the waiting room that says which ones are delayed. If get there and see my unit is delayed, I usually go for a little walk.

    I always have the same techs. There are four in my unit, as well as two students that are often there, so most days I have to have the techs, and sometimes a student as well.



  • JoJo_1964
    JoJo_1964 Member Posts: 58
    edited June 2016

    Paxton & New-Girl ... good timing to read your stories about your clinics! Just met my RO this afternoon at the Cancer Clinic. This clinic felt very cold and impersonal lacking that sympathetic and caring touch compared to the other hospital where I had my diagnosis & surgery. Maybe I should not take these late appointments in the day as staff are probably fatigued. I was also disappointed that this system took it upon themselves that since 'external radiation was the norm' they did not offer me brachytherapy. Told the doctor I wanted to discuss all my options and make the decision. She agreed with me that I was a good candidate for brachytherapy but her expertise was external rad so I would have to wait to get another appointment to discuss internal rad therapy with another doctor who specializes in that field. WTF! For the first time since diagnosis, it felt like I was in the dark ages where doctors had all the power to decide what was best.

    To answer your question whether Canadian experience is different. My peer coach from a community Breast Cancer Association told me she had 21 rad treatments and they were done very efficiently taking 15-20 min total time (including the undress & dress). She did however go to a different much smaller hospital in the city than the huge teaching-hospital I went to today.

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016

    I am having 25 treatments, and booths are simultaneous.

  • PlanB58
    PlanB58 Member Posts: 157
    edited June 2016

    Chiming in on my routine. I am greeted by administrative assistant and go straight back to treatment waiting area. My app is late afternoon and often lately there is no one else waiting. I change into my lovely cloth gown, lock my purse clothes into locker and sit to wait. The waiting room has coffee, a beautiful fish tank and plenty of reading material. I rarely have to wait longer than 5 minutes. Friday is X-ray day and Monday is Dr. Day.

    They have 4 techs who rotate shifts so I have had them all. They are very friendly and am in and out within 10 minutes. There is only 1 treatment room and 1 sim room.

    A nurse is always available if you have questions and she is very approachable. At one point she went to talk with RO about question. I am very pleased with the care. In the beginning there were more people that I saw no time to talk but did greet. I guess they are all done!

    Ingerp- thanks for the suggestions hope they apply!

    Mags- Have a great trip!

    Deaconlady -Looks like we are on same schedule! Here's to the home stretch!

    Welcome to those starting this board has helped me. I hope you find it encouraging.

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited June 2016

    Mags, have a wonderful trip! Enjoy the HECK out of it!!!!

    Grazy, yes - my surgery is Thursday. Found out I will have bikini cut and they are taking everything out. I'm getting so nervous! Been thinking of you too. I have a great surgeon who is nice and laughs a lot Thank God! Nothing like a doctor that don't smile much or have a sense of humor lol!!!

    I'm sure I have missed lots in the last few days. Just want to say hi to all the newbies just starting rads. It's all doable and time flies before you know it. It won't always be easy, but I can say I'm a stronger person with all I've been through. It makes all the petty stuff in life not important anymore, that's for sure!! ###CANCER SUCKS BUT WE WILL KICK ITS ASS!!!### #RADIATE THIS!!###

  • Carlsoda
    Carlsoda Member Posts: 249
    edited June 2016

    Exhausted today after all the running around or maybe too much radiation :) simulation went really fast; 20 minutes at the office and a quick CT scan at the hospital. Friday I find out when I start; I asked for early mornings so I can get it done on my way into work. It was however super depressing sitting in the waiting area waiting for my turn. There was about 8 elderly people there talking about chemo/radiation and I'm like...what am I doing here?


    It is interesting to see how everyone's routine is different. Mine they just provide a towel in the actual room and you slip off your top and bra and leave it on a chair by your purse. They said I will be in and out usually in 5 minutes. We shall see when I start! Tomorrow is follow up with MO for all my million tests and hopefully oncotype back.


    Now sleep....I am wiped out!

  • Paxton29
    Paxton29 Member Posts: 221
    edited June 2016

    I go to a small clinic. They clearly know who I am so I don't have to give my DOB or anything, though I do see my name on the monitor so I can double check myself. They're busy but generally are very efficient. I just want to get this all done though and quit ruining clothes with oily stains!

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited June 2016

    Paxton I get the stains thing. It's a mix of all the gels/creams with the sharpie markings. Ugh.

    I really like that my medical care has been through the private hospital in town rather than UVA. I go into the RO waiting room, scan my card, sit down (I'm usually about 15 minutes early). Rarely have to wait for more than a few minutes before I'm called back by one of the techs who will treat me that day. I go to a private changing room where I get a gown and leave my clothes. I take my purse into the treatment room and have two techs who position me and do the treatment. There are two treatment rooms and I've always been in the same one. I think six techs work there in total and I've had all but one, who I think usually works on the other side. I always say no thanks to the warmed blanket and give them my name and DOB before they ask. :-) Wednesdays are the day I get weighed, X-rayed (although images are taken every day before tx), meet with a nurse, and then with my RO.

    After tx yesterday they did all the positioning/marking for my boosts, which my RO was part of. I'll be lying on my right side, up against a support thing that was formed to my back last week during the sim. Left arm overhead (like the regular zaps--getting a nice shoulder stretch out of all of this!). I have a lovely new outline of the boost area on the left side of my left hooter all around the surgery scar. First boost later today!!

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016

    I leave my clothing and bag on a chair in the radiation room. As far as I know they do not do any more x-rays or imaging since my first treatment, when she told me they were doing imaging and of course my mapping a few weeks before

    I see my doctor on Thursdays, I go into a little waiting room after my treatment and wait for him. It's usually a bit of a wait! He is very cute though, and he feels me up, so I don't mind I see my doctor on Thursdays, I go into a little waiting room after my treatment and wait for him. It's usually a bit of a wait! He is very cute though, so I don't mind.

    In your pocket LG.

  • Katzpjays
    Katzpjays Member Posts: 237
    edited June 2016

    LTF - Hysterical! Glad you love the free "feels".

    I go to my appointment and bypass check-in to a locker/dressing room area where I change into a cloth gown and put my belongings in a locker. I wait no more than 5 minutes in a small waiting room just for radiation patients. No TV, but lots of reading material. I have had the same two techs, Adam and Sam, for each of my treatments. I see my RO and a nurse on Thursdays. After my treatment on Thursdays, I go back to the waiting room (still in my gown) and the nurse comes to get me. The process is pretty efficient.

  • Jacklin
    Jacklin Member Posts: 162
    edited June 2016

    I will post what happens on Friday evening - I have my 1st rads on Friday afternoon. From what I've seen, our radiation department is very clean and bright.

    Crazy - we had high winds here yesterday, but not like you had by the sounds of it. Given your description, your area was posted on the news last night. Glad everyone is safe. Today is better, not as much rain, but man, is it cold!! I can't stay warm today despite wearing sweats and hoodies - oh well, this is the coldest day for us all, tomorrow it'll start warming up.

    When you're coming up to Richmond Hill, can I join you? I lived in RH for over 30 years and recently moved away to get to a smaller town, like RH was 35 years ago.

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016

    so cold today in ontario!! Grrrr

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited June 2016

    Jacklin - having a little meet up with the southern Ontario gals would be fun. I have no specific plans at the moment to head up that way but I will probably within the next month and then I'll be going up a couple of times more over the summer as I have family in the Newmarket and Lake Simcoe areas. Will keep you posted!

    cc LTF!

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited June 2016

    I cannot express how much you guys detailed posts are helping me. I'm scheduled for a mapping and ct on 6/14. What should I expect? I will be exactly 3 weeks from surgery, so hopefully i won't have to do contortions on that side?

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited June 2016

    Valstim--there was lots of in and out and back and forth and scans and measurements and pictures (which I told them I didn't want to see on facebook). I practiced the breathing thing since I mine is on the left side (it's a process to move the area they'll be zapping farther away from the heart). I was on my back the whole time. The RO came in to check it all at one point. And the three little tattoos which are just pinpricks. I wanna say it took 30-45 minutes? Mine was three weeks after surgery too. Really not bad.

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