Anyone Starting Chemo in June 2016
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Hi all! I don't have an exact date yet, but I believe I am starting my first of four cycles (TC) on June 23rd. I am 25 (just barely! May 24th birthday) and was diagnosed in April. I felt a lump in the shower one day, like a little marble under my skin at the bottom/underside of my right breast. It was fairly small, 1.4 cm, nodes were negative, clear margins. There was some DCIS in the right side as well. I had a fibroadenoma in my left breast but no cancer. I had a bilateral nipple sparing mastectomy on 5/19 and have tissue expanders in now. My Oncotype is intermediate, not sure the exact score. I'm also at the end of an egg retrieval process which will be done on Tuesday to freeze my eggs, just in case. Then I'll start on Goserelin, and two weeks later start chemo. I am going to try the Penguin Cold Caps during my treatment and I'm hoping they work for me!
Cancer is a scary word, but chemo might be more so. I handled the diagnosis just fine, and the mastectomy went great and I am feeling practically back to normal now. But chemo terrifies me. I do think that the anticipation and the image of what it will be like that I have in my head will be much worse than it actually turns out to be, but the not knowing what to expect is driving me crazy. So I'm thankful to have this forum to get tips and advice so I can face it head on and prepared. I'm trying to stay positive and channel this "fear of the unknown" energy into educating myself on what to expect and planning what I can do to make it as comfortable as possible.
I'm glad I will have you all to chat with during this experience! Good luck to everyone!
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Hi everyone,
Everyone seems so full of emotions. I'm not really feeling anything and worried that I may be facing a crash. Sick since 8/15- uterine cancer, then thyroid issues, now breast cancer, but a recent growth in my back is being investigated. Port and chemostart 6/8. Suggestions why I'm just going along with no real ups and downs?
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LJ, I had my port put in last Wednesday. There are no stitches, just glue. There is some sort of steri-skin painted over the top that I am supposed to leave alone. I was told it could be used the next day but it's better to let it heal because it will hurt more when newly inserted. Mine looks like a giant tadpole crawled under my skin
Yours might be placed farther toward your arm. I wanted it inside so I could still wear my daypack for hiking. Here's a picture:
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It's like being kidnapped, or hijacked from your life, but still have to do laundry, buy groceries, discipline your kids, etc. Suddenly to be pulled into this world of "You have cancer'. Yes, someone wake me up, cause this is just still so weird. Had surgery 7 weeks ago, been off work, which is overall better, but, ...I LIKE my job, and I am good at it,...will have my third round taxol next Tues. ...no it STILL doesn't seem real.
LJ2016, yes there are two small permanent stitches on my port, one at base of my neck to anchor the catheter, and one on side of the port to keep it in its "pocket". Otherwise, I had disolvable stiches and glue over that. The glue came off withing a week. Tiny little incision at base of neck to thread the catheter, then about 1 1/2 inch incision below collerbone for the port "pocket." Its been 3 weeks since my port surgery, and it still hurts sometimes, weirdly will start to feel very heavy. Infusion nurses say its healing well. Here is a link with info about ports: http://www.veins4life.com/downloads/pdf/VFLspotlig.... Hope it helps. I also found a hospital in Canada by googling "port placement for chemotherapy" with a step by step description for the port surgery. I was not completely out in "twilight" as I recall a lively conversation with the surgeon about U-tube videos.
Hope this helps!
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I am starting chemo June 10th. I am hoping to be able to continue working through treatment. I am feeling confident after researching and reading previous posts. Good luck to all.
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My first chemo is Wed. But i still have the drains from surgery and earliest they come out is Tues. Hopefully that won't delay the start.
I was diagnosed in early March and everyone thought it was very small and a lumpectomy/rads would take care of it. I was supposed to be done with everything by end of June. But no....my cancer (lobular) hides and is sneaky. The 2cm tumor was actually over 8 with no clear margins anywhere. Then add in the lymph node tumors.
Now I've had both of them out and expanders in their place. The plastic surgeon doubts I'll ever have feeling in left breast due to the amount of tissue removed. So surreal.
Im trying to go into chemo with a positive attitude but sometimes I slip. We went shopping for a lot of the stuff recommended on the prep list. I need to go back and read the AC side effects. Is that the treatment where people do cold hands/feet to protect from neuropathy?
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Sadiemaebr - I can't remember the anti nausea I have, but will look tomorrow as I am snuggled in bed LOL. I know that I have 2, one is Zofran that is to be used if the other isn't doing the job. I found as long as I took the other every 5 hours I was totally fine. I don't have a port - I too figured that I would be able to handle 4 treatments especially spread out over 3 weeks. I admit I was scared to even think about a port!! I did not have the Neulasta patch, I went back the next day and had them give me a shot - my only reasoning was that the cancer center is pretty close by, and I always take the next day off from work, so I had no reason NOT to go there and have them administer it to me. I don't think it matters though so whatever is most convenient!
I will say for those that are looking to pack a chemo bag, I packed a lot of stuff, but didn't use hardly any of it. But that's probably because I brought my laptop and worked, and my hubby was there to chat and keep me entertained. :-) Volunteers came by pretty frequently to offer free snacks and drinks. I made sure to eat a bowl of oatmeal before going (7am) and was done by 1:30pm, so I think I may have had a banana to tide me over. I drank a TON of water - I was so thirsty! But my tastebuds changed after my first treatment, so water is no bueno now. I find that I can drink a flavored sparkling water with a splash of cranberry now, but plain water is just awful - so I will make sure to bring something to my next treatment this coming Thursday. I brought books/magazines... didn't read any of them. LOL But again, we are all different, do it's probably better to be safe than sorry and pack things just in case.
I had to buzz my hair yesterday... right on time. They say with the Taxotere hair will begin to shed by day 14 following 1st treatment. It did, and by day 16 I had to buzz it very short as it was shedding so much that when I took a shower it came out in clumps and ended up getting in a HUGE knot... hahaha. I really should have done what Heathet did and cut it short first!! I thought I would be more emotional about it - but I did okay when it actually fell out. I loved my hair and now it's a short, gray military cut. I am angry that now I LOOK sick - even though I don't feel it, and the cancer has been removed. I had some turbans that a friend had given me, so I put one on and ran up to Grand Rapids to a costume store that participated with the ACS wig bank - the owner is an 11 year ovarian cancer survivor so it was lovely to meet her and give/receive encouragement. I got the wig free, and washed it earlier today - dried it and flat-ironed it. It's pretty cute, I think I may be able to pull it off!! My permanent wig hasn't even shipped yet - and when it arrives I still need to have it colored and cut by my stylist. She had me buy a VERY long human hair wig in a color lighter than what I had. That way she could color it and cut it they way I had mine before. Apparently the synthetic wigs can't be colored?? I was able to get one for around $220. I also bought a halo wig - one of those wigs that is a ponytail only - and you just throw a baseball cap on when you just want to run to the store. Can't wait for that one to arrive!
Now that I've been through my first infusion, I am no longer fearful. I look back at my journey since February and how I've been able to push through my fears each time. Not because I'm anything special but merely because we MUST - what else can we do? I'm too young to give up - I've got a lot of living to do! I was SO frightened of surgery - I had never had surgery before. Then I was frightened of the chemo - that was my worst fear! Just taking things day by day and pushing through is all I can do. I have a lot of people praying for peace, and I can honestly say that I no longer wake up and think about breast cancer as my first thought.
I will keep you all in my prayers - I would recommend checking out the earlier Chemo groups to get an idea of SEs and experiences - it's very educational and I feel like I know all the ladies there - like when you read a book and feel like you know the characters :-)
On a good note - hubby and I have decided to install a pool in the backyard - I'm so excited! It's something I've wanted for 17 years! He said when we start having grandchildren, and we have a 3.5 month old granddaughter now, so no more excuses! Gotta start the refi process and pull permits, assessments, etc. I know it will be a pain in the ass, but darn it if I'm not excited!!
Off to bed - gotta go get my Facebook fix for the night...
Hugs and Kisses,
-Keely
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Coffee-lover, my friend with ILC couldn't get clear margins either, had several lumpectomys then ended up doing both sides BMX with implant when she tested positive for BRCA. All her lymph nodes were clear, so she didn't need chemo or rads.
Also, no the taxol or taxotere is the one that causes neuropathy. I iced my hands last week, had less noticable tingly, achy in my fingers. Sadly, had a lot more of it in my feet this week. It is a surprise to me that they are starting you with chemo when you havn't had the drain out yet. I hated my drain (placed between the axillary disection and the partial mastectomy incision). Did they tell you that you will have a permanent dimple where they drain went in? I am headed to bed, tomorrow is my premed steroid day before round 3 of taxol.
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Hi coffee-lover- I'm starting chemo Wednesday too! Fingers crossed for both of us.
Anyone know if nausea meds should be taken regardless so symptoms don't develop?
Also- if water will taste horrible after we start infusions, what have people put in it or been drinking instead? I'm sure wine is out!
Cleaning my house today since I probably won't feel like it later. Everyone stay well, or at least better than they were yesterday.
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I've been sick with sore throat and cold since Friday, scheduled for port tomorrow. Will they still do it, do you think? No fever....
I'm stage 3C and its already in my lymph nodes under my collarbone. I'm afraid of this taking too long and it spreading to stage 4!
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Heathet and Coffee-Lover,
I am type 1 diabetic and so was pushing to have no steroids AT ALL as my reading had shown that they raise the blood sugars massively. So I asked about other types of medication for sickness. I was told that I HAD to have steroids out in the infusion, but that I could get away with other anti-sickness meds after that. I was given Metoclopramide and Granisteron. I have to admit, that I have even been naughty here and NOT even taken much of these. My argument is that I would like to not hammer my liver too much if it is not needed. I may very well get a row for this but fortunately it has worked out OK so far.
I came in on Friday evening after first chemo and was OK til 11pm. Sick just ONCE and then slept well. Got up following morning and took only two tabs that day instead of 6, I was told to take. Lasted til 6pm, said hello to the bathroom floor again and then had a bath and had something to eat and bed. This is now my second full day since chemo and I am up this morning, have hung out washing, done dishes and cleaned kitchen. I have eaten an ice cream (still not brave enough to have adult food) and tried to drink lots of fluids.
Heathet, I was diagnosed about 7 weeks ago. Not staged (been too terrified to ask) but had a tumour measuring 1.1cm x 1.5cm. Grade 2 tumour, ER and PR positive and 3 lymph nodes removed and ONE out of those 3 came back showing micrometastases. This is why I am now on chemo (FEC80) for 18 weeks. Followed by radiotherapy and then Tamoxifen for either 5 or 10 years. I am doing OK so far. Just cannot be bothered with all the hospital visits and poking around.
I am not working at I am a teacher and doctor thought it best I stay away from any chance of infection. That has been helpful. All I have to do it just work on getting myself better. I have amazing family too and my mum has moved in with wee...wee lamb she is. I also have amazing friends who are willing to visit and even wash hands and use my Spirigel hand sanitizer AT the door. OMG...do you think I am being a little OCD about this?
I am planning on staying in the house except for walks around the garden and the odd drive to seaside. But I am attempting to make sure I DO NOT have to go to hospital with infections during my days 10-15 when the WBC could be really low.
I hope everyone on this thread is doing well and trusts that things WILL be OK. Nothing is impossible. WE WILL ALL GET THROUGH THIS!
Dolly
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Thanks, Moondust! The picture helped a lot...I like your tadpole!
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Thanks for the info and link, labscientistmom! I like to research and be aware of what will go on..seems to help me be less anxious
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Nextyear - I found that I could drink flavored sparkling water (which I hated before) with a splash of 100% cranberry juice as long as it was COLD. I know that water is so important, so I figured I'd suck it up and drink that to keep the toxins flushed out as much as possible. I drink LeCroix brand - it comes in many flavors - no sugars or artificial sweeteners, so it's safe to drink for us. :-)
I stayed home from work today - I guess I just couldn't bear wearing my wig yet... I hate that at 46 I'm still so influenced by what others think of me. Not everyone knows that I'm going through chemo - people at work do, but not customers/clients - 2 guys from work shaved their heads AND beards in solidarity... wasn't that sweet?? My scalp has been a little sensitive since losing a lot of the hair - It feels like when you wear a ponytail for too long - that achey feeling?? I think it's just the follicles are traumatized from the hair shedding so fast. It didn't hurt coming out at all, I just think the poor little guys are like, "where's the hair???!!" LOL - I've been putting coconut oil on my head the last 2 nights and wearing a cap. Seems to help a little...
My hubby is home with me today - it's such a beautiful time of year here in Michigan - high 70s to low 80s, breezy and so far very little humidity.
Have a great day ladies - I'll check in later!
Love,
-Keely
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hi all!
I'm 4 days past my first treatment. I'm wondering if anyone else feels like this-
Day 1 and 2 I felt totally fine. I think the dexamethazone steroids helped.
I stopped taking the anti nausea meds on day 3 because they were making me feel like a zombie! I was in a fog. I am now just taking the Zarxio.
Anyone stop taking the Zarxio? It's making my bones ache soooo badly! I'm also really tired, but I don't know if that's the chemo or the Zarxio.
I am taking the Claritin with it too, and Tylenol. No help
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Thank you Clarkblue- going to get that stuff now.
Icandoallthings- where did u hear about the Clariton? Is that for nausea or something else?
Did anyone go on a vacation after their first chemo? My son is being recruited and Iwanted to join in the fun. It's an 8 hour car trip, three days at ahotel and then home. Will ask my doctor but was wondering if anyone else felt ok enough to go on trip three days after first infusion?
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My doctor told me it helps with bone pain, and some people on the forum have confirmed that. It doesnt seem to be helping for me though :-(
A vacay could be good in my opinion. Im feeling really low energy though, and Im 4 days out. So I would say it would be nice if you are going to lay around on the beach or something... but if its a sightseeing trip I would pass.
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Nextyear and Icandoallthings - You're right the Claritin is for bone pain associated with the Neulasta shot. I took it with Tylenol and well and still had a lot of discomfort - I finally broke down and took some Alleve (Naproxsen) 2 for first dose, then 1 every 12 hours for about 4 days beginning with day 5 - I won't wait that long this time. I found the bone pain kicked in on day 3 around 4pm for me (seems to me in correlation with the steroids wearing off). But PLEASE make sure it's okay to take an NSAID with your doctor - they all told me they would prefer that I take Tylenol, but were okay with me taking NSAID if I absolutely needed to.
I don't know what treatments you both are on so I can only speak to Taxotere and Cytoxan... As long as I took EVERYTHING as prescribed, I had VERY little trouble with side effects with the exception of the bone pain, which ceased once I took the Alleve. To me, I'm already pumping my body full of toxins, so I might as well be comfortable - it's only for a short time. So as far as taking a vacation, I guess not knowing how you will react is iffy - I definitely could have gone knowing what I know now - but at the time I don't know if I would have taken that chance as the SEs are SO different with everyone.
Keep us posted!!
Love,
-Keely
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I begin dose dense w/taxotere and cytoxan in10 days. It helps so much to read the posts here about your experiences. I have IDC Stage 2 HR+ and HR2-. Partial mycetomy was on March 10th followed by sernoma, wound care, cellulitis and mild lymphedema. Now ready for chemo. This experience has already changed me. I hug my son and husband a little tighter and longer. I breath in the fresh air more deeply, I notice the sunsets, fireflies, smell of the summer mornings.... I am 80% at peace and 20% whinny butt.
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Llroseworld - Love that, 20% whineybutt! that varies for me somedays I'm bulletproof and others I'm crabby that we are all going through this. Today I'm 30% crabby because I went to the dentist pre-chemo and he did a number on my gums and I'm numb and sore at the same time. I'm ready for things not to hurt, I'm over it. So sorry you went through wound complications - yikes! Totally agree with you that I'm enjoying the little things and trying to give my husband a lot more attention than I have lately, he's done such a great job and I have kind of taken that as a given but I know it's hard for him.
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My chemo will start Wednesday. I'll try on some wigs tomorrow.
LJ, I think they will still place your port if you have a cold, but they probably won't want to start your chemo until you are over it. But that' just a guess.
Keely, did your MO order the Neulasta as a matter of routine, or did you have some special reason for getting it? Mine will not order it because I am not 65 yet and don't have any co-morbidities. I think she'll order one if my blood counts go down too far, though.
Does anyone have SE's from the steroids yet? Fluid retention? Extra energy? Extra appetite?
Good luck, everyone! And HUGS!!!!
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Moondust, my lovely steroid gifts are racing heart, like I drank 5 cups of coffee, and red flushing & feel sunburnt on day after chemo. It is on y face, chest and the inside edge of the breast where I partial mastectomy, rad onco dr says its lympedema that reacting to the steroids and yes, she said that is weird. evidently, weird stuff is par for the course when you take steroids and stuff to keep you alive as you are poisoned!!! wait, that's not weird, is it??
NattyB: good job going to get your dental work done!!!! You will be so glad, I did that too at recommendation from friend who's a 3 yr survivor, she met me for lunch and dished on all her experiences, brought me samples, etc. Then the dentist says, wow!! what a good friend to tell you that. I too went WAAAY to often in the course of 3 weeks to the dentist, but I am glad now. I had a rotten crown that was festering, so glad to get it out and its healing nicely now despite chemo. Be super obsessive on rinsing your mouth with biotene and the saline/baking soda/water mix. I made it up in a water bottle and labelled it so no gets a salty surprise and it lives in the bathroom. I fill as needed. checkout the chemo tips for the "recipe" Like another poster, my tongue feels tender but no sores. Yay!!
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Today's the day. A/C chemo treatment #1. I'm a wreck! My stomach is doing flips. I don't want to get dressed. Couldn't get myself to go to bed until midnight. Ugh! I don't want to go.
BUT I will. I know it's my best shot at getting rid of cancer.
The almost funny thing is, I'm worried about what to wear and it has nothing to do with my port.
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Maryannb88 - thinking of you today and praying for an uneventful experience. Take all your prescriptions and drink LOTS AND LOTS of water. Check in later when you can!
Hugs,
-Keely
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Maryannb88 - Praying for you to have peace and strength. You are starting the battle and you will win! Please let us know your experience, for those of us who still haven't started yet.
Moondust - thanks for the reply. I'm looking forward to the port, because it's the 1st step of treating this.
Labscientistmom - thanks for always making me laugh, and for the great info.
Hugs to all of you...glad I have you to "talk" to!
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Maryannb88 - you will be fine. This beautiful chemotherapy is to keep you safe and well. I hope you have a good next few days and feel OK. I had my first round just on Friday 3rd June and was up and fine by day 2. I have even done house work and cooked. AND...I took no steroids after infusion and only a couple of anti-sickness meds. I suppose I have been lucky. However, one person on this forum told me just before my treatment started that this chemo is not the way the films and TV programmes would have you believe it is. You do NOT spend your life with your head in a bucket. Chin up lady and get through the next couple of days and walk on strong to the next one!
Dolly
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Maryannb88- The day will be over soon and you will be a survivor of round #1. Hang in and good luck. I follow u tomorrow.
Moon dust- don't know if this is a strange SE from steroid or normal, but I feel like I have a mild flu/cold with a low grain headache. Not at all hungry. Tummy doing flips.
Lirosewold- love that breakdown. I'm 85% cooking/feeding/over caring my kids and 15%-fuzzy. Feel better forcing everyone around me to eat the things I can't. We joke that my family will need to diet when I'm done all this!
Keep going everyone!
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Hi All,
Please add me to your list! I just found out, yesterday, at my follow-up appt. with BS that I ,might, start chemo as early as - next week! (Originally thought I would begin chemo end of June or beginning of July, but that's ok - just want to get started!)
I have an appointment with the onc. on Fri. and will find out more.
I got the port put in last week (when I had my axillary dissection done) and bought some wigs.
I feel like I don't know what to expect and worried about how it will impact my job and taking care of my daughter. But, feel very ready - at the same time - because I just want to kill whatever cancer is still in my body - more than anything!!
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scared67- hang in. Keep the mantra "this will help me" and "it's only for a few months." Ten years ago I was diagnosed and my kids were young. I remember movie nights at home in bed with their favorite treats, sitting in back yard in chair with water balloons and water guns. Any activity where they could do while I sat and participated. One child did my make-up and gave me temporary tattoos! This time, they r older but still sittingwith me. You will do great!
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nextyear - I love your memory. Thanks for sharing.
My chemo has been pushed back a week to allow drain incisions to heal (drains removed today). I'm anxious to get started.
Good luck to you maryannb88 - I'm glad your journey is officially underway. I'm hoping for no bumps along the way for you.
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