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  • EmilyJane7505
    EmilyJane7505 Member Posts: 25
    edited June 2016

    Hootowl - For anxiety, I did a cognitive behavioral modification (self help) program a few years back that helped me immensely. www.stresscenter.com Also, I find that meditation and guided relaxation tapes are very helpful. I use an app on my phone called 'Calm'.

    Grazy- I think re: fatigue you were pretty lucky. I know a couple of gals who did breast radiation (no chemo first) and had fairly significant fatigue. I did chemo first and wasn't back to my usual self by the time rads started. I Have noticed on top ofof


  • iammags
    iammags Member Posts: 216
    edited June 2016

    My last radiation tx was on May 25th. I still have discoloration and a bit of itching but it's getting better. And, I'm getting my energy back, which is amazing! I'd like to tell everyone to hang in there. This part of life will soon be over.

    You know, this crazy BC ride was like speeding in a very fast car. Crazy turns right when I least expected it. Thought I was going right when, BAM, life turned to the left. And, now, after all of it, the brakes have been slammed, the ride is over (except for the Tamoxifen, which will go on for years). It's really pretty much over now.

    I saw my BS the other day and she says things look great. My next mammo is in one year (!!). I'll see my RO in July to check in and that's it.

    I do have other health issues that still need to be checked on but I am coming to terms with the BC chapter coming to a close.And it's weird to say, but I'm kind of numb. I was just diagnosed in February and it's been go, go, go since then. With research, and tx, and everything. I'm beginning to realize how PTSD can happen to BC suvivors.

    And, for all of you newbies, you've come to the right place. This site, and all of you lovely ladies, helped me so much along the way. I'm moving on, and so many are just starting this. Good luck to everyone.

    #RadiateThis!!! #CancerSucks #ThereIsAnEndInSight #YouAreStrongerThanYouThink!!!

  • JoJo_1964
    JoJo_1964 Member Posts: 58
    edited June 2016

    Hi! Happy to meet you all. Radiation treatment to begin soon. Meeting my radiation oncologist this Tuesday. Not sure yet which type of radiation will be recommended, external or brachytherapy, and which one I will choose assuming patient-choice is always an option. I know I shouldn't worry beforehand but I am concerned about the skin side-effects. I burn really easily & have sensitive skin (blistered bad with that surgical tape). The surgical wound is healing better than the blister ones. :(

    I've just started to read this thread and already have some good advice .. cortisone cream, aloe & lanolin, Miaderm cream?? Thank you so much for taking the time to post your journeys!

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016

    so my collarbone is starting to get pink and itchy. I was told to use Cortizone on it if it gets too, I have some, I'm just wondering how I do that with the lotion. Do I apply it under the lotion, over the lotio, separate from lotion?

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited June 2016

    Ingerp,

    Thank you!

    To ease up on the driving, I am thinking about doing a night or two at the Hope House. I've heard it's lovely. If there is anyone else out there doing long trips, there may be one in your area

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited June 2016

    Ingerp,

    Thank you! We are getting a week of long-awaited rain. My dry, sandy soil is happy, indeed. I don't know how you can stand those summers. For us here in Vermont, winter is the trade off.

    To ease up on the driving, I am thinking about doing a night or two at the Hope House. I've heard it's lovely. If there is anyone else out there doing long trips, there may be one to stay at in your area. It's free

  • PlanB58
    PlanB58 Member Posts: 157
    edited June 2016

    Jill- I use the cortisone cream when I start to itch. If I have aquafor or aloe on I just put it on over it and it seems to work. I typically have something on except before tx.

    Grazy- love the songs! I was a big fan of The TV show Ally McBeal. In that the therapist played by Tracy Ulman had her clients pick a theme song. I'm a social worker and found that hysterical! My husband who did not really like the show would just sort of look at me as if I was slightly off! Which I probably am!

    I have also started to use those oval makeup remover pads(no chemicals) over my irritated nipple to prevent rubbing on clothes

  • Hootowl
    Hootowl Member Posts: 26
    edited June 2016

    LovesToFly and EmilyJane7505 thanks for your advice on anxiety. Hope everyone had a good weekend to be ready for another round tomorrow.



  • Brea1
    Brea1 Member Posts: 1
    edited June 2016

    I'm in radiation testament now. My skin has gotten very bad and Rad. Onc. Is having me skip 7 regular radiation treatments and do the 5 boosts then go back and finish the last treatments. Nothing helps with the pain from the burns. I'm allergic to coconut oil and the vitamin E oil. She got me silvadene Cream and aquaphor. Didn't do anything fir me. Help Amy suggestions

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited June 2016

    calamine lotion is quite cooling for a little bit

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016

    Brea I've heard aloe with lidocaine can help? Also cold cucumber (umm, I mean cabbage leaves?

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited June 2016

    Grazy--I love the taking-a-walk concept. I was planning on taking my last day of rads off completely, then it got moved (up! hooray!) cuz of that one Saturday treatment I had and I have a meeting the afternoon of my new last day so instead I'll take the day after off. The good news is two days after that the first of my kids arrives for the big weekend. :-D (As a reminder and for the newbies, one of my kids is getting married at my house on the 24th, and we're hosting a pig roast for ~125 people on the 25th. It's been an interesting spring. . . )

    iammags--thanks for the encouraging words. They really do help.

    JoJo and LTF--first of all, listen to your RO. They have their own recommendations re: creams/lotions to help. I was told to use nothing for the first five days, then only what they give me. It started with aloe gel, then they added a lanolin cream, and last week when the "itchy bumpies" showed up, they said to use an OTC cortisone cream. This past weekend I've also added in the Miaderm that I bought before starting rads. I'm not sure it matters too much what order you put things on. When they added the lanolin cream to the aloe gel, they told me to put some of each into my hand and mix them. This past weekend I've gone fairly heavy, and more like three times a day, and spend a minute trying to rub everything in (and leave the area open to the air) until a lot of it's absorbed. (And LTF--you meant cabbage leaves, yes? I bought a whole cabbage before I started treatment but it's still sitting untouched in the fridge.)

    PlanB--I loved Ally McBeal too! I re-watched the whole thing several years ago on Netflix. And I posted the "Radioactive" song in a private facebook group after my first tx. Pretty funny. I'll have to figure out what a good theme song is for post-rads. :-)

    Alrighty. Off to my penultimate whole-breast this morning. I had my second day of noticeable fatigue yesterday, so really not doing too badly. Had a pretty big day on Saturday (in the garden--ugh!), so that might have something to do with it. Anybody out there who's finished notice skin and/or fatigue SEs start to improve when moving from whole breast to boosts? That sure would be nice. . .

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016

    Ingerp, oops I meant cabbage. Chemobrain is real lol!

    I was told to use glaxol base 3 times a day, otc cortisone for itching, and polysporin (instead of lotion) for anything that opens and that beyond that, they would tell me if problems arose. So far my skin is a little pink, and the skin around my collarbone is getting itchy and that's it. So I've been given no further directions, and I was just wondering if I should put the cortisone on before or after the glaxol base ( has it started getting really itchy yesterday, I will ask them at the radiation clinic today)

  • Kkubsky
    Kkubsky Member Posts: 231
    edited June 2016

    I am about 7 weeks post rads. Once it started healing it was quickly back to normal....well new normal. Physically all u see is a little scar about an inch above my nipple. I am going to draw eyes and a nose over it when I go for my fu with my bs. Will look likea frowny face.

    Hang in there. It gets better.

  • Lemint
    Lemint Member Posts: 162
    edited June 2016

    Brea1. I'm sorry your in pain. I was pretty messed up also. Red as a lobster with peeling skin all under my breast and arm. I was miserable. I ordered miaderm L from amazon. It has I believe 4% lidocaine. I also used domboro astringent soaks while I had a fan blowing on the area. It was very soothing. My RO prescribed Norco, which helped a lot.

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited June 2016

    LTF - even though I'm finished rads now (this is my third day since completion) my skin is continuing to react, as I was told it would for a week or two. The whole breast area (outside the boosts area) is completely settling down - no longer pink, more a light tan, however, the boost area -- 10cm x 6 cm -- is a deeper pinker, I've developed a few tiny little bumps and I have an itchy patch on my chest above my breast which is driving me a little crazy. So, I'd like to hear what you learn at your clinic today as far as the application of cortisone and Glaxal Base cream goes! I don't want to scratch the area and risk creating a teeny open area (my RO did say to use Polysporin, by the way, if that happens - I believe yours said the same thing).

    Some of you with longer treatment plans are really suffering though, and for that I'm sorry - I hope you can find some relief. Everybody who has significant se's are so good to share their tips. I'll cheer you all on as you continue along with this part of treatment.

    (Edited, as usual, for a typo.) ;)

  • Sawyer
    Sawyer Member Posts: 43
    edited June 2016

    Hi all - Haven't posted anything here for a bit....I am on radiation #15 out of 34 today. My skin is breaking down but dealing with it with the tips the RO gave me and its ok.

    wondering though: has anyone had any increase in heart burn or any difficulty swallowing? i read that at times the rads gets close to the esophagus and this can happen. I asked the RO about it as the heart burn started when the rads did but she didn't think she was getting close enough to the esophagus for this to happen....but a week or so ago I started to feel like I was having a bit of trouble swallowing....so I plan to ask her about it this week when i see her again but wondered if anyone else had this.

    thank you for any input!

    Sawyer


  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016
    So I asked about the Cortisone. They said if I'm using it at the same time as the cream, and I should use that instead of the cream on the itchy spots. Otherwise, I can use it before or after the cream.
  • Paxton29
    Paxton29 Member Posts: 221
    edited June 2016

    Sawyer, I haven't had trouble swallowing but my RO does ask about it as a known SE.

    My skin is definitely red throughout the radiation field now, but it doesn't hurt, just itches. I'd say I've ruined at least five shirts now thanks to the emu oil and Aquaphor. I have 15 more treatments left--on Thursday I'll be 2/3 through. So tired of having to wear separates all the time and gamble with staining.

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016
    I wear dresses sometimes. I have a pair of shorts in my car for those occasions.
  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited June 2016

    LTF - thanks for the cream info - I'm going to give it a go - cortisone surrounded by Glaxal. I find today that draping my "Cool Canuck" cooling towel on my chest (have you seen those?) helps reduce the itching, but of course I can't go out in public with that draped around my neck and tucked into my shirt. It's pretty nice for the hot flashes that I'm experiencing with my AI though (can't believe I'm going through those again; thought they were pretty much over with after being in menopause for five years) - I wear it around my neck and it cools me down nicely. It's a look, I tell ya ;)

    Paxton - when you say you are getting tired of wearing separates, do you mean you like to wear two pieces to rads so that you just have to remove your top for the appointment? I assume that's the reason; it occurred to me mid-way through my treatment that I could actually still wear a dress and just throw on some light yoga pants to wear with my hospital gown - I just kept them rolled up in my bag.


  • New-girl
    New-girl Member Posts: 358
    edited June 2016

    I have had to revamp my wardrobe because of the separate thing.  I thought about taking a pair of shorts too but I just typically want to get in and out as fast as I can. 

    I saw a new RO on Friday and she recommends doing nothing to your skin unless it starts to have issues.  She said there is no difference in the women who doctor their skin religiously and the ones who do nothing.  I find it so odd there are so many different opinions and instructions from the medical community.  If it wasn't for this website group, I would still be wearing deodorant everyday and probably putting cream on before I went to my appointment,  Just seems crazy to me.


  • Paxton29
    Paxton29 Member Posts: 221
    edited June 2016

    Yes, I meant separates as in top + bottom. I thought about bringing shorts but shoes I wear with dresses won't usually work and I don't want to bring extra shoes too. Yes, I am overly vain and clothes-obsessed, why do you ask? Also, do y'all all get honest to goodness cloth gowns? Mine are paper, are too big and don't exactly close.

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited June 2016

    We weren't allowed to wear our shoes into the treatment room - we had to wear those beautiful little papery blue booties - so having appropriate footwear wasn't an issue for me. Oh well, the wearing of separates is for a short time in the grand scheme of things, I guess :) I was always given a cloth gown that did up in the back and another one to wear the opposite way as a robe. Paper gowns sounds rather uncomfortable!

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016

    I wear two fabric gowns, one on the front and one on the back. They take off the back one to put down on the bed. I agree my shoes do not work well with the shorts, I felt pretty awkward walking around in yoga shorts, a hospital gown, and heels! Honestly, even if I am wearing a short skirt, you cannot see it below the hospital down so it didn't really make a difference. I've only worn dresses a couple times, but I like having the option.

    Yes it's interesting how they all give different advice. I was told to start using the lotion in advance, to prepare my skin. I actually use my strive for every day anyway, so it wasn't really much of a change for me, I just switched to unscented lubriderm (I use that at home and have glaxol base in my purse for after treatment, RO recommended either of them.

    I was realizing today that through all of this, I haven't seen anybody in a waiting room or treatment room my age. I know young women like me get cancer obviously, but we are still the minority even if it doesn't always seem like it. I was feeling quite old before I got diagnosed, but these days I'm feeling pretty young! Today a young woman in the waiting room smiled at me and I felt a bit of kinship with her, then her father came over.

  • JoJo_1964
    JoJo_1964 Member Posts: 58
    edited June 2016

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    What!!!! Please tell me I can get this cheaper!
  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016

    Jojo I just looked for it on Amazon, found plenty that were in the $40 range. Unfortunately for me, none of them ship to Canada

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016

    oh no, I just saw you are in Canada too. Same province as me. I live in Thornhill and go to Sunnybrook. I would love Miadem, but I'm not sure where to get it.

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited June 2016

    Chiming in as the only other Ontario gal on here, just to let you know that I got some Miaderm but only because my husband ordered it and had it shipped to his US office where he works Monday - Friday; it's soooo much cheaper in the States; I can't get over the difference in price to be shipped here. I had ordered it before I even started radiation and then my RO gave explicit instructions not to put anything on my skin until she advised me to do so, which was right before my last week, so the end of week #3. I've tried it twice now, but I find it quite watery and prefer the soothing thickness of Glaxal. Honestly, I'd just give one of you my tube of Miaderm if you lived close enough (I'm in KW) because it's sitting here unused!! :))

  • JoJo_1964
    JoJo_1964 Member Posts: 58
    edited June 2016

    LovesToFly, Grazy ... so comforting knowing I have RAD sisters from Ontario! Grazy that is so sweet of you to offer your tube of Miaderm. Seeing you were not a big fan of it, perhaps I will wait & see what RO recommends. I see we have Aquaphor (Eucerin) available at Shoppers which appears to be popular as well. If I get desperate for this Miaderm, my daughter's fiancee is an American so I will have it delivered to his place. I just ordered a cool towel so thank you for that tip!

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