May 2016 Surgeries
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Thanks so much LRGO, hello all. Gentle hugs to those recovering and about to go into surgery
Greykat, special hug.
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GreyKat, unfortunately that's exactly what it sounds like to me – they're only giving you the "learn to live with it" option which, as others have said, cannot be the only option. I would start practicing my hissy fit right now if I were you.
Momof6, so sorry about the shingles! Ouch!
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had my 8 day check with BS and I am healing fine. She suspected my fatigue is linked to the last 3 months (caring for then losing my mum, caring for my 3 kids and planning surgery) as much as the surgery. Which makes lots of sense. Painkillers now paracetamol, mefenamic acid and a hint of Valium. Am still not to use my arm above 90 degrees but I am getting used to it. I'm content. Appointment with my plastic surgeon next week. I think I love him a little bit
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Papillon--those look really good. My friend just had her direct to implants BMX and is really happy with the look.
Greykat-it's tough to go "there" but should you consult an attorney?
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papillon - you look great! Your PS did a nice job:)
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Papillon, you look great!
Greykat, hoping you get some answers soon.
I just got back from getting two of my drains pulled. So I have one left on each side and I'm hopeful that I'll get them out next Monday at my first post op dr visit. They really haven't given me any problems, but it will be nice to not have to deal with them
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Papillon - I think you look fantastic! Especially for 8 days out.
Re: attorney - I don't know yet.
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Looking great, Papillon!
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GreyKat - The experience you've had with your hand was my greatest fear when deciding to have the BMX. I play piano, and any nerve damage or a lymphedema diagnosis would be devastating to my future as a musician. I'm so sorry you're going through this whole ordeal...what a nightmare!
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Papillon, it looks fantastic!
I've asked the BS to do nice scars but forgot to tell him to do them symmetrical! I thought he could think of that himself. On the other hand, I had very uneven boobs due to the previous operations, so he might have an excuse. After 8 years of losing hair, losing breasts, getting hair again, dyeing no pigment hair to a clownish red colour, lymphedema and I don't know what else...I've stopped caring anymore.
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Papillon absolutely wonderful results! I may need to take a trip to Switzerland if I need to!
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Momof6 - My husband had shingles this winter and was miserable for a couple of weeks....my condolences to you!
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Papillon1, you look great! I hope my ultimate result looks as good!
I had my first follow-up appointment with the PS since the removal of the TE on the right. Flotsam 4.0 was removed (I was down to virtually zero output.) I'd like to get excited about that, but the last time I celebrated having a drain removed I ended up with the first of two emergency surgeries due to the infection. I know in my head that the infection had nothing to do with the drain removal but the two events will forever be linked in my brain so I'm a bit gun shy about celebrating. (I do intend to have a celebratory glass of wine or two tonight, nevertheless.)
Speaking of the infection, I told the PS what I found in my research in that the particular strain of bacteria that infected me is almost exclusively hospital-acquired and asked him how that gets reported to the proper authorities, and he said "Oh believe me, they're all over this." There is an infectious disease officer at the hospital and they've already contacted my PS as he's the first person they'll investigate since he was the surgeon of record for the procedure. I know in my heart that it's not from him, though, so it will be interesting to see how the rest of this investigation proceeds.
And can I just say how much I adore my PS? I had a moment during the examination today where I was getting a bit teary and he held my hand and consoled me for quite a while. He's absolutely a "patient-first" kind of doctor and after jokingly apologizing about ruining two week-ends in a row for him I promised to try not to ruin a third!
He's putting off doing any further fills on the left side for at least two more weeks. Until I've finished the course of antibiotics for the right side he doesn't want to make any more "wounds" on the left, just in case.
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GreyKat, I work with occupational therapists and physical therapists - at least in my work they split the clients in that the ones that need help with large muscle movements like walking - get PT and the ones that have need for small muscle help like writing - get OT. Maybe this is the case for you? Still it sounds like other things like nerve issues are going on and it would be good to see the neurologist.
Papillion- Your surgery really looks great.
Today I saw 3 doctors -the oncologist - she was 20 minutes late to the appointment and then went on and on about tamoxifen and I had to remind her that I already used that my first time with cancer and I thought we were going to try something different this time... Frustrating.
I saw the nutritionist - but was late because of the oncologist - She was great so much information and I can see her again. She gave me great ideas on how to eat healthy for cancer and specifically for estrogen positive! I learned tons.
I saw the plastic surgeon - she is awesome. I had the second fill today. I am at 120 cc total. The radiated breast is a little sore. I may get my next surgery in July.
I came home and had to take a nap. I have to travel to the doctors so that is why I have so many in one day
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Mom4four - can I ask who the nutritionist is? I had an appointment with a cancer nutritionist a few months ago but it was truly a waste of time. I had several questions about bone health (I'm on an AI) and about eating healthy for ER+ breast cancer and all she did was Google my questions and read to me whatever came up on the computer! I'd love to see someone who can really give me good advice but I'm not sure where to start. The nutritionist I saw worked at a cancer center - you would think she would have been up on things.
Raven - congrats on losing Flotsam 4.0 -
Mom4four. I second grandma3x's question. I'd like to hear more about the nutritionist. I have 5 daughters and truly aweful family history of breast cancer. nutrition sounds like a good thing to start with in educating them about all of this.
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Genie Bra question. I looked on line and there are lots of options. Is it the classic one everyone gets?
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Raven - Enjoy that glass of wine tonight! Congrats on your progress.
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Yay, Raven! I'm glad the IDC is all over your situation, they should be! Goodbye Flotsam 4.0, hello wine 101!
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About the nutritionist, I will post info tomorrow as I am in bed (it's midnight here) I just wanted to check in one more time. I will see if I can figure out how to scan the papers she gave me so we can all share. I am going to a cancer center also. It was interesting to hear how estrogen is "produced" from the fat and sugar we eat. Also she said that getting 20 - 25 grams of fiber a day is helpful in estrogen + cancer because fiber binds with the fats and sugars so it is elimated from the body. And one last thing I remember is she told me to use a certain kind of seaweed to make beans less gas producing for me.
Now I am just saying what I remember so tomorrow I will post better information and her name.
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Mom4four, that is the EXACT same information my nutritionist gave me, but reverse it all to say for triple negative. Interesting.
I figured it can't hurt to watch sugar and fat, and to increase fiber and good protein.
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About the nutrition - I do know that estrogen is produced in fat, so lower body fat makes sense. I didnt know the roll of fiber. That's interesting. Also, so many folks go fat free. But the fat free fiasco of the 80's and 90's should be a warning. When you cut fat, you tend to increase carbs. And any excess carbs get turned into fat!!
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Nutrition - that was exactly what I was told, about cutting out sugar, as soon as the gene results came in, by my PCP. Cancer cells apparently can steal their own blood supply to fuel their growth and then can requisition more sugar than normal healthy cells, use (so the theory goes) so they can grow ever faster. And also, fat and estrogen, big link.
For what it is worth, I have a cancer cookbook I love. It's called "The Cancer Fighting Kitchen: Nourishing, Big-Flavor Recipes for Cancer Treatment and Recovery" by Rebecca Katz and Mat Edelson (2009). I love it because of the variety in it and one of her favorite spices is curry - mine too. If you hate curry you might want a different book.
Back when this began I ended up at the public library checking out a bunch of cancer cookbooks - some help with suggestions of food to manage side effects like sore mouth, or low appetite, or problems with high fiber food digestion. Some like the one I got are just more general cookbooks. At any rate, you'd want to vet the nutritional info in them (old, outdated, etc) but it's a cheap way to get some good ideas for ways to incorporate better food choices into your diet that are specifically cancer-themed.
I wish I could speak with a nutritionist. I've got some questions too, about phytoestrogen foods, and what to avoid.
Also, Raven - I will celebrate having your drain out - YAY!! Now you can't be jinxed because it's us being happy for you and not you overdoing it celebrating.
And guys, my arm is tormenting me. Nerve pain is no joke. Holy cow. Just existing hurts.
As for up top, that little baby fill yesterday made me sore by nightfall and stiff and sore today. I feel like I've been set back a week on my mobility now that the muscles are all tight again. This is so frustrating.
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GreyKat - thank you for the cookbook suggestions! I find myself examining everything I put into my body these days. I've laid off alcohol completely since my first surgery and find I no longer have a taste for it (this is going from a must have wine everyday lifestyle). I eat a lot less bread and pasta (my 2 other favorite things in the world), but I have not given up dairy completely. I drink skim milk and eat fat-free plain yogurt pretty much everyday for the calcium, but ice cream is no longer allowed in my house (my favorite bed time snack in my pre-cancer days). I may have it easy in some ways as my husband does not drink alcohol and does not eat sweets due to reactive hypoglycemia, so I don't have to watch him indulge when I can't.
My first fill on Wednesday also went easy, but I was sore by nightfall and then had a pretty low energy day yesterday. I am much better today and hoping will be the same for you by tomorrow.
Momof6 - your comment about going fat-free is so true! I have been told that some fat is necessary to help your body absorb nutrients, so I try to eat nuts along with fruits and veggies for snacks now, and add add nuts and berries to my fat-free yogurt (I know - it's counterintuitive, but I'm just trying to avoid milk fat, which has some estrogen in it...).
Raven - your PS sounds like a winner! I have not seen my PS since surgery and won't see her until 2 weeks from now. I'll have some pretty specific questions for her like how come one side is 2 inches higher than the other? I had them done at different times, but sheesh, I'm going to have to live with this unevenness until I have the exchange surgery in October... I'm also pretty sure she is not the holding hands type - just hope she's good for the final exchange!
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Valstim, I'm interedted in hearing more things from the nutriotionist, if you have time. I'm also TN. I've cut down sugar, processed meat and eating more salads. Reduced the amount of dairy too. And stopped snacking after dinner time. I've already lost 2 kilos.
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Moreshoes, I will dig out the pamphlet and share. One thing that stood out was that I was not to take my antacid (prilosec) with vitamins. I was to stagger them. She said the vitamins negate the effects of the antacids. Who knew.
Additionally, the constant thread with both the naturepath and nutritionist, was less is more. Natural sugars, meats etc in moderation, no processed foods. whole grains etc.
The reason I personally (i'm no expert, and it's just my opinion) I became a vegan after my first breast cancer diagnosis 24 years ago. lost a ton of weight, began running. I can really say the last 24 years I've been whats termed totally healthy, both inside and out. Then in my other breast, I got the most aggressive cancer you can get without being a stage IV. Stage III Inflammatory breast cancer. I felt for a while nothing matters, because I had regular mammograms (not seen on a mammo 9 months earlier) even a few diagnostic ones over the years, no alcohol, healthy living and eating? I was totally bummed for quite a while
So though I felt great during those years, my diet and exercise did not one thing to help to prevent cancer, but i can say those years i felt good, and maybe it's why I've done so well so far with harsh chemo and now surgery (my MO says this is a key factor)
Now? Do I personally think the way I eat will affect a recurrence? Nope, but that is me and my personal opinion. Also, I eat a pretty lean healthy diet now, so I would never go to the other side of excess.
I do eat lean and clean, but have steroid weight. If I want a glass of wine, or a treat, I'm doing it.
Just me, and my 2 cents. Well maybe 3.
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Valstim, I know EXACTLY what you mean. 6 months before nothing to be seen in the mammogram, then TN IBC for me too. Do I believe that the broccoli and the green tea will help me from recurrance? Not really. BUT I'll lose weight, have radiant skin and hair (when and if it decides to come back) and I'll have more energy. I don't plan to give up my once a week glass of wine or cocktail. What I do want, is to lose the belly fat. Being flat (with no recon possibilities) and big belly is not a good look :-))
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I agree. I feel pretty good, and felt great before this dx. My stomach is slowly deflating. I liken it to a beach balloon being deflated. No I'm not having reconstruction, but I am having a tummy tuck if i'm still ned next year. For sure.
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I'm sorry your hand/arm is hurting you so much GreyKat. Thank you so much for the cookbook recommendation. I think I'll call my PCP Monday and see if he'll put in a referal for me? It couldn't hurt, right? My DH and I have started the "Cut the Crap" diet. No processed foods, no wheats, rice etc (pasta is my cryptonite!) but I gave them up pretty easily. Just fruits, veggies, some meats, good fats and nuts. I've gained 4 lbs, go figure.
I'm horrible about sugar and always have been! I've given up Mt Dew 1,000s of times but can't seem to make it past 3 weeks. I need to Just Do It!!
I used to drink alcoholic beverages A LOT when I was younger and I still have a glass of wine several times a week. My DH loves his beer so it's always in my face, but he's such a happy person with a beer in his hand. I can do this
Thank you for letting me ramble on!
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Still hanging out at the hospital trying to keep the right side TE viable. I've been here since Wednesday and it looks like I'll go home tomorrow. Lots of book reading, movie watching, and visitors to pass the time. Things have improved since my second surgery, but I've been told I'm not out of the woods yet. Definitely not how I envisioned my post-mastectomy healing to go, particularly with my non-cancer side, but still trying to keep a positive attitude and hoping for the best.
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