January 2016 Chemo!

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  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    Hooray MissBee. So happy for you and all the others .

    My surgery so far has gone well. Rads are next in July.

  • Smurfette26
    Smurfette26 Member Posts: 730
    edited May 2016

    Congrats MissBee123. Have a wonderful time with your "bestie".

    Glad you are recovering well Valstim52.

    Thinking of everyone and sending love & light. Donna.


  • Frill
    Frill Member Posts: 311
    edited May 2016

    Hi, everyone. :) I wish I could say everything has been peachy and that's why I've been absent, but, I've been prey to this neuropathy and nail crap, too. I have one fingernail that got a yucky fungus under it, to the point where it smelled and pus was oozing out the top. I think the MO was only concerned because it was on my lymphedema arm. His response was to tell me to soak my hands in vinegar & water 3x a day. The script for the cellulitis probably helped my fingernails. My nail person said one nail - the culprit, looked like it was lifting, but to be careful with it and see what happens.

    As for the neuropathy that I managed to avoid until almost 12 weeks of chemo was over, I was prescribed Gabapentin and Oxy. Oh, and sent to the Pain Clinic for more evaluating. That doctor said this neuropathy crap could last up to TWO YEARS?

    That was during the mass exodus of my eyebrows and eyelashes, which I think - the lashes anyway - I took harder than my hair. I think it's just the last bit of normal looking-ness. Now I full on look like cancer hell. And again, 9 weeks before the END of chemo, lol.

    And finally! The MO tells me there's really nothing to do about my lymphedema, except maybe a lymph node transplant. I was like - so I will not wear a normal size wedding ring, my hands will never be the same size again - and he said no. Well, I just about lost it. Then the swelling in my hand started going down. I would love to see what the physical therapists say about what this is all about, but my insurance has been huge JERKS about PT for lymphedema, so I don't have another appointment with them until mid-June. It's almost back to the size of my other hand, when - it was about 2cm larger than the other hand.

    That's not the only little silver lining I've had. :) The new chemo is making me so sick I've lost more than 10 pounds. Maybe that's what has made my hand go down.

    I only have 2 treatments left, and this business doesn't even seem close to finishing. I didn't start reconstruction before treatment and didn't even get to do the other MX, so there's that whole business to go through.

    BUT YAY FOR THE CHEMO FINISHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just can't even imagine what it's going to be like. Doesn't it feel like right now like cancer is a second job? Maybe it's the PT and the 5 million dr appts. The week before last I only had to go once, and everyone at work, me included, couldn't believe that I was in the office so much. I can't wait to be done with chemo. I won't even know what it will feel like!!!!

  • jensgotthis
    jensgotthis Member Posts: 937
    edited May 2016

    happy for you Miss Bee and everyone else finishing and nearing the finish line!

    I had a unilateral MX last week and am recovering fairly well. I've finished three weeks of rads to bone mets; next up rads to my left breast then reconstruction. And then a big fat vacation

  • Frill
    Frill Member Posts: 311
    edited May 2016

    Jen, it's nice to know I'm not the only one doing reconstruction at the end. Maybe I should start thinking of it as my treat? Lol!

  • DFWFLYGIRL
    DFWFLYGIRL Member Posts: 146
    edited May 2016

    MissBee-awesome..you look great! I also finished this week...woop woop! Special time with family and friends this weekend celebrating the end of that chapter!! Looks like you are doing the same enjoying the Colorado mountains. We need to have a virtual celebration. I am onto radiation..no further surgery for me. I know this is a chemotherapy group but hope we can all stay in touch and keep supporting each other as we head into surgery, reconstruction, rads, more chemo or getting back to a new normal. Gratitude MissBee for starting this group.....really helped me thru:)image

  • DFWFLYGIRL
    DFWFLYGIRL Member Posts: 146
    edited May 2016

    Jenn- Great to hear you are recovering well from your surgery:))

    Frill- So glad see your post and update but sorry to hear about your nail and neuropathy issues. I have been doing weekly PT since February to help with mild lymphodema and pain and have also added acupuncture and those two together have helped a lot. Hope to continue doing it thru radiation. You do have to push your insurance some. I hate that you are also having other SEs. I also lost lashes and brows so while hair on my head is sprouting back...my lashes and brows are slower. Hope you can turn the corner on your healing..only a few more right before MX? Positive vibes coming your way!!!!!

  • Cathytoo
    Cathytoo Member Posts: 667
    edited May 2016

    Miss Bee...CONGRATULATIONS on finishing...FINALLY‼️ You look beautiful and healthy. And, THANK YOU SO MUCH for bringing us all together. I will never forget the help and support I found here. We are a great group of women.

    DFWFLYGIRL ... CONGRATULATIONS to you, also on the end of chemo. Isn't it a great feeling? I agree with you when you say that you hope we can all stay together. Our journey isn't done yet. Hope we stay in touch offering support and caring to each other. All you wonderful women have become my little BC family.

  • LifeAloft
    LifeAloft Member Posts: 150
    edited May 2016

    Big congrats to you all who finished up!!

    I have two more weeks of Taxol, I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel, I can't even imagine what it's going to feel like to be finished!! So far just a little numbness/tingling in my fingers and toes. I want my eyebrows and eyelashes back too!! On to surgery July 12.

    I too am very thankful for this group. You all have been a wealth of information and help. Even though I haven't posted a lot, I'm not sure how I would have gotten through all this without you all.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    I so hope we can all keep this thread going, no matter what our next journey. This got me though the darkest days.

    I have hopped on on other chemo threads and they are going strong.

    I'm on to rads after I heal, which I seem to be doing nicely. I keep getting clots in my drains but they get them out (ugh).


  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    Frill, so sorry for you SE's. Here are gentle hugs for you.

    Yes the eyebrow and lash loss bothers me more than losing my hair. I feel like so now I look like what I've been for months, a cancer patient.

    Plus I suck at drawing in eyebrows.

  • Paxton29
    Paxton29 Member Posts: 221
    edited May 2016

    Congratulations to those who've finished, and for those who aren't quite there yet, that day will get here soon!

    At just over 9 weeks PFC, I have a full (though very short) head of hair, and my brows are growing back in; I had lost about half, but that didn't happen until maybe two weeks ago, so I'm glad I'm seeing growth. Same happened with my lashes and those are growing back in too, though slowly. I have 20 more radiation appointments (16 down), and after that, implants, but I have to wait for the skin to heal and the RO says 6 months :(. But so far I have no SEs from rads and hope that continues, though I know it's cumulative.

    Oh yeah ... I'll have to start Tamoxifen too. But I'm still looking forward to the day that I can go weeks, even months, without seeing a doctor!

    Thanks to everyone on this thread who have all been so helpful. Knowing you're not alone is priceless.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    BS gave me good news. My path report shows PCR and clear margins, so my chemo did it's work. They took out 17 lymph nodes no traces of cancer. Considering my PET scan in January was lit like a Christmas tree, I'm very pleased.

  • jensgotthis
    jensgotthis Member Posts: 937
    edited May 2016

    Valstim that is amazing news. So very good to hear!!!!!

    Do you mind sharing a little about the clots in your drains? I'm wondering if that's what's happening to mine to

  • fightergirl711
    fightergirl711 Member Posts: 300
    edited May 2016

    Valstim52 So happy to hear, what terrific news! What a relief!

    Congrats MissBee!

    I'm sorry you've had such a hard time Frill. It sounds terrible what you have been going through. And yes, it does feel like a second job.

    I had a minor complication over the weekend, couldn't get my first Herceptin treatment Thursday due to low counts (only 2 weeks PFC), spiked a fever Friday and ended up in the ER Friday afternoon / evening. After even MORE antibiotics, they sent me home. Only to get a fever again on Saturday. My MO and I deduced it was the Neupogen prescribed Thursday causing me stress, so, no more of that. I did get Herceptin on Sunday without incident, and it was a loading dose too (Dana-Farber is open on nights and weekends.)

    I'm scheduled for a re-excision and lymph nodes to be removed next Tuesday. Had my pre-op appointment today. Fingers crossed, and praying like crazy that chemo did its job!


  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    Jensgotthis,

    I noticed my output was less, and when you look at the line closely you can see a darker line, that is a clot, and it's long like snot, sorry if tmi, some say as long as it drains should not be an issue,

    I feel so much better when they get the clots out. and then i drain more.

  • jensgotthis
    jensgotthis Member Posts: 937
    edited May 2016

    oh boy, the snot analogy very accurately describes what I'm seeing in my tubing, and my output is lessened by about 50%. Hope the visiting nurse actually visits today and can help me out with this...

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited May 2016
    Hey everybody! Congrats to those done chemo, Frill I'm sorry you're having a hard time with that FEC.

    I'm now about six weeks pfc, I've got a lot of fuzz on my head but it is very fine and sparse, I cannot wait until it looks like I have a very short her a haircut instead of looking like a cancer patient :(

    My eyebrows and eyelashes are still MIA.

    I have been on tamoxifen since May 10, the first week I felt kind of tired and disoriented a lot, I'm not sure if it was the tamoxifen or residual effects of chemo or what, but since then I have felt perfectly fine and had no side effects from it.

    I've had 6 radiation treatments so far, finding the process quite easy, no side effects yet but of course it's still quite early on and I heard a could take a couple weeks.


  • Paulinek
    Paulinek Member Posts: 117
    edited June 2016

    yay for everyone who has finished chemo!!! MissBee I can't imagine the relief you feel after a year of treatment!

    I started tamoxifen last week and back come the hot flashes :(. It also seems like my hair growth halted once I started it, but that could be my impatience with wanting hair to grow back faster. I've had to start shaving my legs and other areas. If it can grow so fast there, why not the head?!

    Jen I remember having clots in my drains. The visiting nurse taught me how to "milk" the drains to get the clots moving. Hopefully you get the drains out soon.

    I have three more weeks with these awful tissue expanders. I am actually excited to have surgery just to get this exchange done.

    Good luck to everyone as they continue on this journey whether it's surgery, rads, etc. I agree with what has been said already about how much this group has helped me. I am so grateful for all of you ladies and the awesome support.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited June 2016

    Jen, my visiting nurse was a post op nurse so she really works the drain angle. She has milked them and got it all out a few times. I tried as she showed me, and didn't get it out They got it out today at the BS office, but i see it clogging up again. Yuck

    She did tell me a lot of them don't get the clots out as long as you have some output, but I want as much output as possible because that fluid is stuck in my body.



  • Paxton29
    Paxton29 Member Posts: 221
    edited June 2016

    For those of you enjoying these wonderful hot flashes [/sarcasm], how many pe day do you have? I don't think I go two hours without one. At night I generally wake up 2-3 times. Weirdly, I find that in the early mornings I'm likely to be very cold before the first hot flash of the day. We don't keep the AC low enough to explain it and my part of Texas is definitely hot this time of year (and we're about to hit the hellacious three to four month period of constant 90s/100s temps--I never understood why people enjoy summer, I love where I live but summer SUCKS).

    Back to the hot flashes: I'm still taking Vitamin E and I hope it's helping some. My husband thinks it may be helping my hair growth, which he finds impressive. I ventured out this past weekend with hats only, no wig, trying to ease myself into it.

  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited June 2016

    my hot flashes were only at night. Several in the evenings, some overnight.

    I'm still getting over the hives I got last Wednesday. The only place they are now is on my face. My sister is here, but she says no one can see it but me. I was supposed to see my MO this week, but now she has a meeting, so I will see her PA. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to continue with my 3 days of neupogen or not, since the dermatologist told me to stop everything.

    So jealous of everyone who is finished. Still have 7 more taxol to go. :-/

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016
    I am woken by hot flashes once or twice a night. I don't get them in daytime.
  • buttaflydiva
    buttaflydiva Member Posts: 88
    edited June 2016

    i have hot flashes at night too. I go to bed freezing cold, then wake up around 3am burning up. I have very few eyebrows left and just a few lashes hanging on, my face constantly has this nasty rash, and I stay tired as hell. I haven't had much neuropathy, BUT I just have 2 taxol treatments left then on to Herceptin every 3 weeks and rads, so I can deal with it. And my hair (or peach fuzz I should say) it is soooo white. My hair was a medium brown before this all started, so who knows what its going to end up like. But you know what? I don't even care anymore because im so excited about having a little fuzz on my head that I started going out this past week with no hats or wigs, rocking my white head lol

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  • jensgotthis
    jensgotthis Member Posts: 937
    edited June 2016

    this will sound ridiculous but I'm worried about my hot flashes because they've lessened so much since finishing chemo. It makes me nervous that the estrogen is revving up on my body again and feeding the cancer. Never thought I'd be hoping for worse hot flashes than what I'm experiencing. I've gone from waking up soaked from my knees down and on my neck to waking uP and feeling just a little too warm

  • LoveMyVizsla
    LoveMyVizsla Member Posts: 813
    edited June 2016

    Jen, my hot flashes ramped up during AC, but I haven't had many at all, if any while on taxol.

  • Milwmama
    Milwmama Member Posts: 115
    edited June 2016

    Congrats to all done with chemo! Today was suppose be my last but too many setbacks moves it to June 30. But it's still in June 👍👍

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited June 2016

    Jen my hot flashes have gone down a lot too, I still get them but far less than I did when I was on chemo, and they don't seem as severe. I'm on tamoxifen and I've heard hot flashes are often the worst side effect, I don't know if it means anything but I'm not really getting them too badly I do remember when I started tam my oncologist said that how bad people side effects are or are not has nothing to do with how effective the medication is, it's just how we respond to it. Hopefully that's true and not having bad hot flashes just means we are lucky.

    Sorry for the delay mil, you're almost there.

    I took this picture of my hair yesterday to show someone, I think it came out pretty cool. I finished chemo on April 19 but my hair started growing back a few weeks before.

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  • MissBee123
    MissBee123 Member Posts: 186
    edited June 2016

    Paxton, I probably have about one an hour during the day, one every 30 minutes in the evening, and 4-5 during the night while I sleep. I do know that your body releases a hormone upon waking that triggers hot flashes; I always have a hot flash within 2-3 minutes of waking up.

    Jen are they putting you on Tamoxifen? I would assume you should be on some sort of hormone suppressant.

    Frill, welcome to the Egg Head club! My eyelashes are back but super blonde so they're no help, and my eyebrows are still not interested in growing. I can't believe a lymphedema specialist can't help you with your arm? Can you request a peer-to-peer with your PT and insurance? (But hooray for weight loss!)

    In good news, for me, my new doctor retested my slides and it turns out I am estrogen negative! They believe the DCIS was E+ but the invasive was negative, so…no Tamoxifen! That means that after Herceptin next I am well and truly done with all treatment! I can even consider trying to conceive in another 18 months or so, which is great news as our adoption process has been sooooo slooooow.

    I will admit, though, it makes me so nervous that no further scans or tests are done. My MO told me that research has shown doing scans (PET, MRI, etc) does not improve survival, tumor markers are not reliable, and since the surgery I have no need for mammograms. I honestly didn't believe her but when I went home and looked it up she was right. I have to admit I'm now scared to death because without scans it means any detection of a recurrence will likely come at a late stage. Did anyone else receive similar news?

  • Paulinek
    Paulinek Member Posts: 117
    edited June 2016

    MissBee my MO told me the same thing. It makes me so nervous that there's no way to reassure me that it's staying gone or a way to catch it early if it comes back. My husband is in remission from testicular cancer and once a year he gets a CT, MRI and bloodwork.

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