May 2016 Surgeries

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  • Midwest
    Midwest Member Posts: 34
    edited May 2016

    Papillion, is it funny or maddening, this should be science not just preferences. I had 10 days of heavy duty antibiotics, 3x a day, so glad when it was over. Don`t even want to talk about the drain differences.

    Grandma3x, so glad you were firm about having them removed at the same time, why would that change from your first experience?

    Specialk, thank you for your explanations. I did start seeing the PT Lymphedema lady two weeks after surgery and she even undid some of the cords but no relieve yet, it is probably like a fishnet as the pain is the same, thankfully, only when stretching a little higher than shoulder level and only in some directions. Would not describe the underarm pain as burning just painful at touch, but it does not seem to get better yet.. Also, how long should be the drain spot still sensitive at touch? Drain was removed over two weeks ago.

    Huskersfan, what is the role of the vac chest? Glad you are feeling so well.

    Ispy, so I am a half Barbie too.

    GreatKat, your doctor should be happy to give you the cream, he would not want you in distress anymore.

    Have a nice day (or evening) everyone!

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited May 2016

    I will also be having lymph nodes removed from under my arm. This sounds like a longer recovery time with a lot of possible problems included. Exactly what extra wonderful things (NOT) do I have to look forward to? Yikes!

    I talked to Deb Helms at church yesterday and learned that she is the nurse that usually takes care of everyone in recovery for both my BS and PS. She had wonderful things to say about both Drs. Unfortunately she is not able to be there for me as she has some health issues going on herself. :-( Deb confirmed I'm in great hands as both Drs are the best in the area and that my PS has wonderful stitch work capabilities and my scars will end up being only very fine white lines when all is said and done. A huge load off my mind! 16 days and counting down! My pastor's wife Chrissy asked me if I was getting nervous yet? I told her "Oh no,not at all. I'm TERRIFIED!"

  • HuskerFan
    HuskerFan Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2016

    Midwest, I'll be totally honest......I don't know the full role of the wound vac! During my consult with the PS I remember him discussing it, but I guess I was so focused on other aspects of the surgery that I didn't even ask questions! I would equate it to a compression bra. I'm guessing it also helps keep the alloderm where he wants it helps it keep its shape

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited May 2016

    Wound vacs assist in healing with negative pressure to maintain proximity of the incision edges and reduce swelling. It is relatively unusual to use one right off the bat, usually they are employed when there is a healing issue. It is possible that this PS has discovered that his patients have fewer complications when one is used at the outset - if so, yay for him being proactive!

    Midwest - the underarm discomfort is a slow return, don't get discouraged. I have found a lot of variation with the drain site wounds - I think they stay sore longer because they were open, with a foreign body, for a while. If they are sore you can always cover them with a small folded piece of gauze and tape so they don't get bumped. For those still with drains I found that taping the drain tubing to my skin right near the exit helped reduce the soreness afterward by minimizing the movement of the tubing.

  • MoreShoes
    MoreShoes Member Posts: 322
    edited May 2016

    Hey Lori and your margaritas, that's one great talent you got :-)) I could definitely use some margaritas now.

  • MoreShoes
    MoreShoes Member Posts: 322
    edited May 2016

    Ah the Dutch and their pain management. Today they called me from the care center to check upon me. When I asked how long I should be taking the paracetamols, their answer was: as long as you think it's necessary. So I can experiment myself with how many pills and how often I need to take them. Oh well, I've decided to take twice today (instead of four times), we'll see how it goes.


  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited May 2016

    Thank you Moreshoes, I'd give out my recipe but I free pour and don't measure anything. I'll pay closer attention the next time I make margs and write it down. Alot of bartenders have a tendency to over pour and "burn" their margaritas. Burn means to make it so strong it burns going down. My second favorite drink is a 7&7, when I order I always tell them easy on the 7. It makes them ask which one? I tell them the Seagrams 7! LOL

  • Papillon1
    Papillon1 Member Posts: 308
    edited May 2016

    moreshoes - it's the same here in Switzerlmad -take paracetamol, ibuprofen and Valium depending on pain. I halved the dose yesterday and hurt :( I will keep it up for a few more days

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    Gotta love the Dutch. In NC, my docs have been very generous with pain meds. I thought I had weaned off the heavier stuff but have bad underarm pain, so I'm back on them.

    I see BS today. So I definitely want to have my pain meds active.

  • avmom
    avmom Member Posts: 324
    edited May 2016

    Hi, Val. Good wishes for your doc visit. I'm off to an outpatient appointment this morning as well. I have been hoping that the drains could come out today, and the left side drain has been decreasing its output, but over the past two days the right side drain has been way up. The right side is my lymphedema side, and is still much more swollen than the left, so maybe I'll have to put up with the right drain for a bit longer. I haven't had significant pain for a few days now, and stopped taking T3 (Tylenol with codeine) two days ago. My incisions look good, at least to me, but we will see what the PS says this morning. Compared to the staple tracks that my BS used, the thin, "paper cut" lines, so neatly glued and steri stripped, look lovely to me. I did ask my PS about my port scar, but he said that there wasn't much improvement possible there. That part of your body just isn't a great place for scars.

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited May 2016

    Angtee15 - Yes, thanks for starting this thread and putting together the list.

    Everyone here has been invaluable in pulling me through this month, from the terror of the beginning of May before my surgery through complications and now as I shift through healing into mobility hangups and dealing with reconstruction. I could not have done this without the support and perspectives of you wonderful women.

    I know some people may be healing up, drifting off, or otherwise moving on with other treatment, but I'll be sticking around for a while longer.

  • Maya15
    Maya15 Member Posts: 323
    edited May 2016

    Hi everyone, I wanted to thank you all so much for your wonderful posts. My surgery is tomorrow and reading about your experiences has been really invaluable as I've never had a major procedure before and it's very scary. I wish all of you the best for recovery and for next steps on this journey.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    I also want to thank all for the great posts, and Angtee or creating this for us.

    BS gave me good news. My path report shows PCR and clear margins, so my chemo did it's work. They took out 17 lymph nodes no traces of cancer. Considering my PET scan in January was lit like a christmas tree, I'm very pleased.

  • Angtee15
    Angtee15 Member Posts: 209
    edited May 2016

    Greykat and Hydranne--you are welcome! This board has been invaluable to me since last fall when I got that dreaded call back after my mammogram. May has flown by.

    Maya--good luck tomorrow! Check back and let us know how you are doing.

    As for me I have had a fairly smooth go of it and will probably go back to work late next week. I had my first fill this morning and so far so good! Might have to hit the Tylenol 3 later.

  • Angtee15
    Angtee15 Member Posts: 209
    edited May 2016

    More on drugs--I was lucky to only need Tylenol 3 because I was told that was all I was going to get. I also asked today about muscle relaxers in case the fills were painful and I was told no. Seriously? My guess is they think everyone is a potential pill abuser so they are being extremely careful. I am at a public university hospital in Chicago.

  • Momof6littles
    Momof6littles Member Posts: 184
    edited May 2016

    WooHoo! Drains pulled. I feel so much better without them. I was down to under 20mL per day pretty quickly. And they really hurt more than anything else.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    Yay Mom. Did it hurt getting them out?



  • Momof6littles
    Momof6littles Member Posts: 184
    edited May 2016

    Well, it did hurt. I can't lie. But it was quick and really more of a dull pain. I think the numbing shot you get before a needle biopsy is worse. And this feels better right away. Those drains are aweful.

  • Papillon1
    Papillon1 Member Posts: 308
    edited May 2016

    having my drains out didn't hurt at all. But the site where they went in are now my most painful bits.

    Hydranne - you sound incredible! Surgery, stage 4 and yet back to work so fast. Great work!! Xxx

  • Maya15
    Maya15 Member Posts: 323
    edited May 2016

    Valstim, great news about the PCR! Very encouraging to know it's possible for those of us with Christmas tree-like PET scans. I had one of those too, latest scans show significant shrinkage but you never really know what they will find until they get in there.

  • MoreShoes
    MoreShoes Member Posts: 322
    edited May 2016

    Hydranne, I asked about the job because I find it amazing! I've started this journey in November straight away with chemo, now surgery, followed by rads. I haven't been to work since November. I can't see me working through all these. The good thing is that the work gives you some distraction from all the therapies and makes you feel normal.

    Maya, good luck tomorrow! Hopefully without too much pain and no complications.


  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited May 2016

    Grandma3x, glad both the drains came out at the same time!

    Midwest, the drain wounds on my left side are still scabbed over, even now almost 3 weeks after having it removed on that side, but I wouldn't say that the soreness persisted for more than a day or two. Hell, I have three healing drain sites on my right side along with the one active drain site, and none of them are sore either. (I wonder if I did connect-the-dots on the marks once the last drain is removed on the right if I'll get a pretty picture of any kind.)

    Lori, your Margaritas sound spectacular. Let me know what time I should be over. Heh.

    Valstim52, congrats on the path report! Happy to hear it.

    Momof6, congrats on getting the drains out!

    Also want to add my thanks to everyone who has posted about their experiences and have provided support and advice on this thread – it's been invaluable to me. I'll probably stick around here for a while and have also started posting on the TE Troubles thread.

    As for me, now that the TE has been removed on the right and the new abx specific for my infection are kicking in I feel LOADS better – the pain is completely gone. They put a new drain in again during my surgery on Saturday morning (going on SEVEN weeks with a drain on that side!) but the output on it is very low now so I'm hopeful it will come out on Thursday when I see the PS again for follow-up. I don't see the infectious disease specialist again until 6/7 but I can tell already that the abx is working and this bug should be cleared up in no time. I don't want to jinx myself or get my hopes up but I really feel like I've turned a corner and things are going to get better from here.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    Maya15, I hear you loud and clear.

    I could feel my tumors shrinking and so did my MO, but after a while you wonder is it really so?

    Plus I had so much cancer in the breast and lymph nodes, I didn't think it could go away. I do have to say my MO expected a complete response and I did look at her like she was insane each time.


  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited May 2016

    Maya, good luck tomorrow. We'll all be in your pocket and praying for you and your surgeons!

    Awesome news Valstim!

    This thread has been a godsend to me also. I joined in April hoping for an April surgery date, that didn't happen. I then went on to the May Surgeries hoping for a May surgery date and that didn't happen. So now I'm on the June Surgeries and I finally have a surgery date. Yay me! When I go back over the April and May threads I'm kinda glad it took awhile, at least now I have a much better understanding of this whole BC crap and have so many great women to thank for all the fantastic experiences, advice and not to mention all of the links that have been added along the way. I'm on a few different threads that are geared towards future experiences such as the TE Exchange City and problems with TEs etc. Having as much information that I can get my brain wrapped around the less terrifying this all has been! I'm not going anywhere anytime soon as there's just to much to learn!

    Thank you all again, I've got a ways to go yet and I'm glad I have all ofyou to turn to!

  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited May 2016

    So here's something interesting...........after doing a little more research, I'm finding that the particular infection I have - a bacteria called serratia marscescens - is almost exclusively hospital-acquired. It can live on the very things that medical personnel use before working with you, including medical equipment, lotions, antiseptics, medications, blood products and sinks. Great.

    I'll be discussing this with my infectious disease specialist next week to see if my case is being reported back to the hospital for investigation. Somehow I doubt it.

  • myToyStory2
    myToyStory2 Member Posts: 162
    edited June 2016

    Pesky right breast issues have earned me an upcoming 3 to 4 day stay at the hospital. Boo. Went in over the weekend for redness along the mastectomy scar and bleeding - dr drained 100 cc of saline to relieve the pressure, then sent me home with antibiotics. Follow-up appointment today showed signs of necrosis, so I go back first thing in the morning for my extended stay. The plan is an antibiotic drip and a small follow-up surgery to get this issue under control. Never imagined my non-cancer side would be the one causing me so many issues...

  • Maya15
    Maya15 Member Posts: 323
    edited June 2016

    Thanks everyone for the encouragement.

    myToyStory2, really sorry to hear you have to go back in!

    Valstim, same here, cancer was everywhere. Lots of tumors and flakes of cancer throughout breast, and many lymph nodes. My MO was also expecting a complete or near complete response because it's so aggressive and apparently that makes it more responsive to chemo. Did they say if you still have to have rads given the PCR?



  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited June 2016

    Raven4mi, now would that be something if they admit they gave it to you in the first place?

    MyToyStory2, so sorry you have to go back in, sending gentle hugs your way.

    Maya, yes rads are still required for me as it was so aggressive and the IBC, so mop up rads are still my future as I knew they would be

  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited June 2016

    myToyStory2, so sorry about your issues! I'm right there with ya (except mine is a result of a hospital-caused infection – grrrr!!!) – what is it with our right boobs??

    Maya15, good luck to you.

    Valstim52, I'm under no illusion that anyone will admit to anything. I'm more concerned that it's reported so that no one else ends up with the damn bacteria. Someone with a more compromised immune system or something of the sort could end up with a much worse result than I.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited June 2016

    raven4mi, that's the scary thing is how many others will or have been exposed and not able to get over it?

    It's such a reality in the healthcare industry. That's what is so scary to me about it.

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