Starting Chemo May 2016
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Nyissa, the oncology nurse reminded me of the Look Good, Feel Better program and gave me a schedule so I need to call and sign up for a class. It sounds like so much fun!
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Hello lovelies --
Responding to a few items I see have come up in folks' posts... I'm at day 7 post 1st round of TC. I used Penguin Cold Caps and my hair is in good shape now (it's early anyway). Days 3 & 4 post tx were my worst days -- probably the worst pain I've ever been in. Felt like the worst flu ever (bone, joint, muscle pain), plus period cramps (but wasn't), and sharp-shooty gas pains combined -- only all over my entire body. Hellish. I probably didn't help matters because I wouldn't take anything for it -- I didn't want to throw more chemicals in there for my poor liver and kidneys to process. I finally did take a tiny laxative pill (pink Dulcolax) on Day 4, and woke up feeling much better Day 5. Not sure if related, but maybe.
Day 3 I started feeling the icky-mouth -- that feeling of a layer of dead cells. And very tender -- bumped the roof of my mouth with a toothbrush and ended up leaving a big sore there (when it wouldn't have, ordinarily). I did start the swishing with baking soda/salt/water combo, and that made my mouth feel better. I also asked for the "magic mouthwash" prescription -- which has to be made at a compounding pharmacy -- but haven't yet gotten the call that it's ready. I did order a Water Pik to help with flossing, since my mouth is so tender it actually can be painful to brush.
I got a PICC line, not a port. An oncologist said a port would be "overkill" for my short, 4 round tx. The PICC is just a catheter left in my arm -- which means special precautions are required around showering (can't get it wet). I regularly go for "less is more", so didn't even research it when I had the option. In retrospect, I might have given the port more consideration because I think the risk of infection is probably lower the longer it's left in. Hopefully, my PICC will come out after 9 weeks uneventfully. In the meantime, it needs weekly dressing changes, which correspond to my weekly blood checks.
When I went in yesterday on Day 6 for the PICC maintenance and blood check, my WBCs had crashed severely and I ended up on a Neupogen treatment for 3 days. Will get checked again Friday to see if 3 shots are enough. Pretty scary --- if the blood doesn't respond, chemo can't proceed and the whole timeline expands. And, if I were to contract an infection, I'd end up in the hospital on an antibiotic drip; the last place I want to be.
Last thing for now: someone said her oncologist didn't support cold capping. I have to say, the hardest part of this experience has been the very poor communication between the oncologists and their staff and me/the patient. My MO was not supportive either, but I was adamant -- and she really wasn't supportive of anything I wanted that was different than her usual schtick (e.g. an integrative approach). She was very dismissive and frankly... condescending. I started to say perjorative, and that may also be true. I am concerned about continuing to work with her; in my work, I am accustomed to making important decisions, and asking questions to get information that I need to make those decisions. It is literally stunning to be treated so carelessly, maybe especially given my professional context. But I think what I do for work shouldn't matter -- the MO should treat everyone as though they are actually capable of participating in and making decisions about their care. And, maybe this kind of idealism sets me up for a life of frustration.
Maybe... but it certainly does here. If you can believe it, I ended up with a case manager from my insurer who actually suggested and recommended that I file a grievance. That was a surprise (I would think she'd try to discourage it!)
Anyhow, thank you all for sharing how things are going; it is a comfort to hear what your experiences are, and know we are all inching our way down the road to recovery....
xx
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Hang in there OAJ2013 (and all the rest of us going thru this crazy thing)...think of it as deposit in a bank to spend time with our kids. Hold on to your faith in God's promises too, HE is good, all the time and He specializes in taking the crap this broken world dishes out, like cancer, and turning to something good, using it for something beautiful. I got my port placed today, 2 incisions. The worst of it actually was the 5 attempts to start an IV. OUCH!! I am so glad to have the port now, to NOT have to go thru that every week. Starting weekly taxol next Tues, then the dreaded A/C every 2 weeks after that. Blessings to all. I so appreciate all the info I have found here in the last month. Let's nuke all the little cancer parasites, nuke them all!! (visualization is good, right?)
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Saccat, I like your picture, gonna try to add a pic of one of my cats to my posts. thanks for the good descriptions of your SE symptoms. My son's 6th grade grad is two days after my second dose, hoping to be able to make it. I will pray and we shall see. Blessings, and here we go on this extreme Men-In-Black kind of witness protection program called chemotherapy.
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Hello from the chair! 1 of 4 AC
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hi victoryak I got my port placed yesterday. After the lumpecty surgery, and axillary dissection (12 nodes out) you can NEVER have torniquite or blood pressure cuff on that arm again for risk of lymphedema. My past experience w/ivs (2 carpal tunnel surgeries, c section) took 2 tries for IV and very painful to do the port placement, it took 5 tries to get IV and I'm grateful for a port not have to dread enduring that every week. Rn says my veins tend to clamp down which is part of problem
I am thinking of you! Its gr8. To be encouraged by other chemo-sabes thru this crazy mess. Blessings
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Hope you're doing alright KQHill
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yea praying for you & thinking of you KQHill
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Thank you, ladies! So far, pretty good with a lightly queasy tummy and a mild headache. Getting ready to onboard the next round of preventative meds, finish another flask of water, and try to get some sleep.
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I had my first standard chemo today. I started receiving Herceptin and Perjeta since January of this year. Though the tumor shrunk from being close to 3 cm to 1.9 cm, the oncologist and breast surgeon wanted to me to have clear margins after surgery.
I used to be part of a clinical trial and had been dropped like a hot potato. The premeds that I took during the clinical trial were no longer the same for the standard treatment. I guess I am on the economy coach now.
Nevertheless, the seven-hour long infusion which started at 10:00 AM was comparable to my experience when I received Herceptin and Perjeta. I have a port so the infusion was convenient and manageable.
I came home a little bit groggy because of the Ativan. I felt tired but I couldn't sleep so I took a sleeping pill and and another Ativan. This is Day 1 and I feel pretty normal. I will update again on my Day 2.
By the way, I have been drinking lots of water -Essentia- which really tastes good and has a 9.5 ph level. Tea tastes bitter now.
I am HER2 positive, Stage 2, and undergoing neoadjuvant treatment (H+P since January to April) and TCHP (May-September). I will finish Herceptin till January next year.
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Labscientistmom, you are full of fun! Chemo-sabes! Men-in-Black witness protection! Beautiful cat avatar!
Hang in there, everybody, one step at a time.
The Neupogen (sp) is kicking my tail now.... First shot, no problem. Second shot had me up at 2 a.m. in horrible bone pain; gave in and took some Tylenol. Third shot today, girded for a tough night. Blood test in the a.m. should say if I'm done with Neupogen for a while.
Nighty night, good warriors.
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SacCat, have you tried Claritin? It has really seemed to help my joint pain from the Neulasta.
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Well ladies, I shaved my head tonight. Trying not to lose it! 😭 I know it will grow back, but I'm still sad. I feel like it will be much better in the morning not seeing a ton of hair falling out, though.
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Thanks dear OAJ2013; I am on a double dose of Claritin, as well as Tylenol. Fingers crossed for a better night.
And, you're beautiful. This too, shall pass. xx
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OAJ2013, you did a brave thing, and I am leaning towards doing that too and I agree with Saccat, you are still beautiful.
Saccat, if you are not laughing at the total absurdity of this take-over-your-life thing called cancer, you are either running screaming down the halls, or curled in a corner, a quivering mess. Neither of those choices are useful for anything. I am just struck over and over how crazy this place is - being a cancer patient is like being kidnapped or hijacked.
In all honesty, my friend & 16 yr survivor of triple neg IDC came up with the chemo-sabe. I thanked her for being my chemo travelng buddy she fired back with that wonderful pun. My other friend, who is 3yr bc survivor says at chemo is like going over a cliff on top of an avalanche & hoping you don't get buried in too much snow.
sleep well both of you. My port incisions are sore & itchy from the waterproof bandaging to keep dry in shower. arrgh! Thank God for Aquafore.
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Please I need information about breast cancer treatment in USA, my wife who is 34 years old have benn diagnosed with breast cancer histology grade 3. The tumor is about 1cm 2 milimeters. I'm not rich but I can afford a good treatment which is not very expensive. I live in Peru, SouthAmerica. Please if you have information about a good hospital send me the information. I'm desperate, The treatments in my country are not very good. Pls
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Hugo : Sorry you find yourself here. Any major city in the us will have cancer research centers who have some of the best cancer teams. Some major cities are more expensive to visit than others. For example New York is more expensive than Chicago. Try to look up cancer research center in Chicago has several. DC has Johns Hopkins and gwu. Boston has the Dana farber center. New York has Sloan Kettering.
Oaj: you are lovely. I am just waiting for my wig to arrive before I cut my hair. I am trying to learn how to use scarves too.
Everyone: does anyone know if Benadryl will work the same as Claritin for the neulasta? I have Benadryl at home but not Claritin.
Love and hugs.
Laura
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Laura,
Not sure about Benadryl. Was only told to use Claritin.
Here's a link I used for tying scarves.
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OAJ, you look great, mama!!!
Laura, I was told they all work but Claritin seems to work the best for most. Give a try with what you have if you can't go out now. I'm waiting for my first Neulasta robot to go off in about 40 minutes. Yikes! -
HI kids -- just an update on the Neupogen fun; had my third shot yesterday and blood tested today. My WBCs are now way above normal; nurse says that's typical after the Neupogen, and they'll normalize soon. I was concerned about the potential for high WBCs indicating infection, but the nurse said to just monitor my temperature and make sure it's not "sustained" over 100.4 degrees. Strangely precise.... but in that event, time to call my doc.
Unfortunately I woke up with what feels to be a head cold
Fingers crossed for a good week next week, before round 2!
Happy Friday --
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OAJ2013, Thank you for posting your pix. You've inspired me to get a pixie hair cut tomorrow in anticipation of my hair falling out three weeks from now. I already bought a wig and I have some scarves.
Day 2 after TCHP Treatment:
I woke up feeling nauseous and some queasiness in my stomach. I immediately took an anti-nausea pill that disintegrates on the tongue plus two tablespoons of Pepto-Bismol. I also heated up ginger ale in place of regular coffee in the morning. Then I took my anti-nausea band and placed it on my right wrist. So far I had a great second day. I was able to clean the kitchen countertop, load the dishwasher, vacuum, and take out trash. At around 6:30 PM, my Neulasta On-body injector started beeping and when I checked the meter, it was already empty. I carefully removed the adhesive pad. I feel some tiredness but it is manageable. After the Neulasta injection, I felt soreness in my right throat. At this stage of the chemo, I am deathly afraid of infections.
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Hi All- Diagnosed 5/5/16: Er+ HER2+ and BRCA2 +. 44 years old. Chest port placed May 6th, stared TCHP May 9th. First cycle was long, but Benedryl gave me a nice snooze through some of it. Was tired first couple of days and took naps, SE included diarrhea and acid reflux. Onc prescribed protonix and I took over the counter anti-diarrhea proactively so I could venture out and eat more than bananas and bread. I also noticed that by day 4-5 I had not eaten protein (mainly because I was afraid it would not sit well with me) and boy what a difference once I did. Had me some baked chicken and immediately felt like a new woman! Thankfully, no Nausea. Allergy symptoms started day 8, runny nose and teary eyes. The nurses had recommended Claritin when I was undergoing my first treatment. I took it for a few days, but stopped as the oncologist had said if I didn't think I needed it, I didn't have to take. Started taking again, but my eyes still won't stop tearing. I have 5 more cycles and will then undergo bilateral mastectomy and ovaries removed. Need to find a good OB-GYN and determine if ovary removal is sufficient or if I need to consider fallopian tube etc. My Aunt was diagnosed at 55 with rare fallopian tube cancer... Lots of information to take in and consider, taking it one day at a time. And if you get a chance watch the Facebook video of the girl and the Star Wars Chewbaka mask-, made me laugh so hard, I'm keeping it as my daily watch video. Laughter is great medicine right! Good night all.
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Hi SacCat & everybody, first chemo on Tuesday. counting down to Dday on any hiding-out cancer.
gonna nuke them all!!
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Hey ladies,
I am just diagnosed a few weeks back and will be starting chemo in 2 weeks. I am doing FEC. I am not sure what to expect. Have tried to plan ahead with suitable things being put in place like ginger ale and ginger biscuits, for sickness. Have also given the house a thorough cleaning and have hand sanitizers in place and antibacterial wipes...but in the end, I think I need to maybe just calm down, trust in my body doing its best for me and know that I will get through this. I plan to have as peaceful a time as possible on this...will listen to my classical music and dream of beautiful places that I will go to one day soon.
I am doing the cold cap and so will report back on this.
I hope you are all doing OK so far and that this naughty drug (OK OK....it is actually saving us!) is not making you too unwell. Listen to dolphin music and whales singing in the sea...honest girls it works wonders and calms you and these animals heal....
Dolly!
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Hi all,
I'm finally posting here. I have been diagnosed with IDC with a node involvement. Had lumpectomy last month and all set to start chemo tomorrow. I have a little less than 2 year old who caught a bad virus of cold and flu from his daycare since Friday and I now started feeling the symptoms of flu - sore throat, heavy head, congestion etc.
We have to leave our son with my parents and he is so clingy, and now I'm not sure my treatment starts tomorrow owing to my symptoms. Feeling terrible either way.
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Days 3 & 4 of my TCHP treatment
Day 3
I was in bed the whole day. I was still nauseated and my bones and joints were in severe pain. I take Claritin Reditabs 10 mg everyday for allergies, yet my body felt like I have been run over by a truck. I also lost appetite so I only had Boost and a banana with peanut butter. The soreness in my throat also aggravated the situation. Yesterday was also one of those days that I felt so angry and depressed.
Day 4
That's today! I feel better. I still have bone and joint pain but it is not as severe as yesterday. I also drank decaf coffee. No nausea and I am out of bed. However, I am not sure if I will be able to finish the last two and a half days in school. I am a teacher and chose to file intermittent FMLA leave.
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MemberNow, sorry to hear about it. You probably should wait till you better before starting. I understand how you feel. I think waiting is the worst. When you start you feel more in a control. I had my 3 ( out of 12)Taxols weekly and going for #4 on Tuesday. It sounds crazy but I can't wait to go and get my next chemo... I guess it's because it is makes me one more step forward toward the end..I understand you probably emotional wreck but stay strong. Talking here helps. Knowing there are people who are in the same boat and understand to.
Stay strong!
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MemberNow,
So sorry to hear about your little one. I, too, have a 2yo and am constantly having her wash her hands and change her clothes when she gets home from daycare. She hates it and it's a struggle everyday, but we got make her do it. Maybe get some face masks to wear for in the future. Ugh! It's so hard bc you just want to cuddle them and make them feel better but have to take care of yourself too. Good luck prayers for a quick recovery.
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I had my first AC chemo on 5/19. The infusion itself was uneventful. I asked my doc for the bare minimum of steroids in my IV and he said that was fine. He did not prescribe any oral steroids because I didn't want them. Other than that, I think my protocol is standard for ACT. I get one infusion every other week of AC (4 total) then 4 Taxol (one every other week).
I felt fine the first few hours after the infusion. About 4 hours after arriving home I felt very tired and nauseated. Large bags appeared under my eyes. My leg muscles ached so I used a heating pad, which helped. I went on a walk and took one of the three different anti nausea meds I have. Woke up in the night and nausea was gone. My hands and feet felt swollen and tingly. By morning that SE was gone too.
5/20 The day after infusion I felt very tired. I slept a lot. Had my neulasta injection at 4pm. She did it in my stomach and for some reason my blood pressure got really low and I thought I was going to faint. Laid down and they gave me fluids through my port. Was fine after 10 minutes. I've been taking Claritin and haven't had bone pain.
5/21 I woke up feeling great. Popped an anti nausea med and hit the gym. I was tired towards the end but did my normal workout, which is very strenuous. I took another anti nausea med when I got home. I think it made me tired. I napped and watched tv. Went to bed at 9pm. I've had no trouble sleeping. Possibly because of very low dose steroids.
5/22 I again woke up feeling pretty close to normal. Hit the gym with my standard workout. Not taking any anti nausea meds and I feel less tired today
So overall this has been much easier than I anticipated. Who knows what round two will bring...
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