May 2016 Surgeries

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  • Angtee15
    Angtee15 Member Posts: 209
    edited May 2016

    Hi Ella23 I had that crazy all over itching that was attributed to my epidural. BMX was Wednesday and happy to report that itchiness is all gone. I have two drains and was able to shower for the first time today. It felt awesome! Not so awesome was getting a good look at my chest for the first time. Cancer just plain sucks. I just keep telling myself I will have nice boobs again soon enough!




  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    another question ladies: do they give you a binder/camisole? how long does that stay on? do you take it on and off, or are you just bandaged up?


    sorry for all the questions, just wondering should I buy a binder/camisole like they advertise on some of the masectomy websites?

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    Oh and btw, I'm just having a radical masectomy no reconstruction, wonder if that makes a difference?

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited May 2016

    Hydranne you made me cry. I've never been the superhero of anything, and that's the nicest thing anyone's said to me that knows anything about what we've all been going through with this stuff. It's been a rough day of nausea and crashing into things dizzy and I've been feeling pretty low. Thank you so much for your encouragement!

    Checked tonight - second nipple is now turning black, so I guess they're both going to be a lost cause despite all efforts.

    More than anything, anything in the world, I wish the constant dizziness and nausea would go away. I can't walk unassisted and I can't even sip water now without fighting small batches of vomit (sorry, gross). I've left a message for my dr's nurse but I've given up trying to eat. If I just knew which of the 6 meds I'm on was causing it we could make changes but I'm too terrified of the pain to go cold turkey and self-experiment. There's also a good chance it's a combination problem. I have my post-op appointments Tuesday so we are definitely discussing this then.

    Re: binders - I woke up after surgery with gauze over the incisions, "fluff" over the nipples to cushion them slightly, and a super tight elastic breast binder wrapped around me, so tight that it took two people both hands to stretch it and fasten it. It's meant to squash everything down and seal the tissues and help force the excess fluid out into the drains instead of building up inside. I mean it is so tight that opening it makes me light-headed from the blood rushing around.

    They ALSO prescribed to me two post-surgical prosthetic camisoles (Amoena brand) from a specialty store, which insurance covered. They zip up the front and also completely detach at the shoulder straps, so someone can put them on or take them off you even if you can't lift your arms at all. They have pockets inside them to hold the drains securely so none of the tubing is showing outside the cami. They also fit quite snug, but that's so the drains don't swing around. It's one more layer to get through when I need to sponge bath or empty my drains, but I love them.

    What makes them prosthetic is that they have breast pockets and breast-shaped padding to go in there and fill you out from flat to C-D cup so you can look the same if you put a shirt over all your layers. I don't wear the breast protheses because right now I don't care. Anyway, I had to buy them with insurance and bring them to the surgery myself, and the nurses helped dress me in the cami over the binder when I was headed home. I love that I never have to worry about my drains catching on anything as I do stuff - especially the way I'm constantly dizzy and stumbling and tipping over and falling into things.

    You ladies are my rock stars. We can all get through this one day at a time. *hugs*

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited May 2016

    Oh my goodness (GreyKat), you have been through the proverbial wringger and you are my "Superhero"!

    I wonder if it could be an antibiotic that is making you so nausious? Antibiotics are what usually cause my nauseousness, I know we are all different. I will ask them to change my antibiotic if needed and it usually works but not all the time.

    I will ask for prayers for you at church this morning, I'll pray that you can honestly begin your healing process with no more setbacks!

  • HuskerFan
    HuskerFan Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2016

    I'm tentatively scheduled for BMX with TEs on May 24, just waiting on confirmation from the plastic surgeon. My BS recommends nipple sparing on both sides but I'm unsure if that's the route I want to go. I've had saggy, 36DD breasts for as long as I can remember. My nipples are always "on". The silver lining in all of this for me is the potential of not having to wear a bra. I'm worried that by saving my nipples they will still protrude and I won't be able to go braless. Has anyone else had experience with the nipple sparing procedures

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited May 2016

    @WenchLori - Thank you too for your sweet words. At this point I am pretty sure all my horrid dizziness and nausea is coming as side effects from my main painkillers, and, ironically, the second anti-nausea medicine they put me on. I was looking them up last night and could check off nearly all the side-effect boxes. Hoping I can just quit them after my post-op followup appointments this week and be able to just tough it out. Or maybe they'll switch me. Idk.

    @HuskerFan - I know exactly what you mean about nipples always being "on" and I told my PS that if that's how mine came out after surgery that was a deal-breaker, because I am sick and tired of years of wearing thick bras to hide the evidence that I'm always cold, and I am just done with being stared at in the frozen food aisle of the grocery store by men. I'm cold people, it's not a sexual invitation to stare at my chest, and I can't help it. Originally my PS said I wouldn't need a bra (I'm a smaller perky gal anyway) but he then later decided he couldn't really promise that, which made me mad, and after going two rounds about it he promised that if I hate how my nipples come out (aka if they're stuck on "high beam" like some women get) he will remove them for me because I am that sick of the stares and comments. Being a man himself he doesn't really understand how offensive and obnoxious that is. I gathered that in his opinion that sort of attention is supposed to be flattering and we women should be grateful for the leering.

    But now both nips have turned black post-op so it looks like I'll be losing them anyway, which makes me sad. I didn't want to not have them, I just wanted them to behave themselves since they'd be numb. And they are certainly numb.

  • HuskerFan
    HuskerFan Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2016

    @GreyKat, thanks for your response! My BS told me that sometimes the nipples will flatten out which I would be fine with. I just feel like there is no guarantee of that. I haven't had my consult yet with the PS, so I'll see what he has to say. After lots of research I still don't feel like I'm any closer to making a decision....everyone's body reacts differently and there's no clear cut answer

  • Papillon1
    Papillon1 Member Posts: 308
    edited May 2016

    you can get some amazing nipple tattoos these days!

    I have opted to not keep my nipples, I want every tiny chance of cancer occurring gone so that includes losing the nips. Plus one has always been a bit inverted so I am not deeply emotionally attached to it. If keeping them meant keeping sensation I may have thought twice. But actually, probably not. I am not sure if I will go for nipple tattoos or flowers etc yet. I'll see in a few months how I feel. I am also on May 24!!!

  • HuskerFan
    HuskerFan Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2016

    My husband was surprised when I said I wasn't sure if I wanted to keep my nipples. I think he thought that would help me feel more "normal" by still having a small part of my original breasts. But, he's also never had to deal with wearing a bra 7 days a week! I know he will support my decision either way, but he's also good at pointing out the pros and cons of everything to help me with my decisions.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    GreyKat just want to say you are my Hero. You have posted, despite your horrific experiences. Thanks so much. I'm on the 24th and sure I'll be a wimp. Once my pain tolerance goes, I'm a whimpering mess. Already told my BS..

    Hey Papillion1, we are on the same schedule, except no recon for me.

    Hydranne so glad you are better. You are my fellow IBC sister, so you give me such encouragement and hope.


  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited May 2016

    HuskerFan, I attempted a NSBMX on 4/15 – it was done at my request rather than at the suggestion of either the BS or the PS – I think they both would have preferred I go only with skin-sparing. The PS was mostly concerned with the right breast which was the site of prior lumpectomy/radiation. Nevertheless, I wanted to give it a go. Unfortunately, I did start to see some necrosis which, at first, we thought was on both sides, but turned out to be on the right side mostly. The left side did get dark but then sort or scabbed over and started sloughing off and the areola beneath that was pink and healthy. By the time I went back in for nipple excision due to the necrosis on 5/11, the left side was almost completely healed. The PS said he would just clean it up a little, but they had to excise the nipple and areola on the right. I'm not scheduled for f/up from the excision until later this week and I am bandaged up, so I haven't seen what the end result really was yet. I went through a really low period and cried a lot when I knew the nipples were going to have to go – I just felt like if I could have kept the nipples then I would have some chance of looking "normal" and pretty again, you know? In the meantime, I've come to terms with it and have some very pretty flower tattoos picked out that I will do in a year or so on the right side once I get to my "new" normal.

    Whether or not you need a bra anyway may depend on the protocol of your PS. I've seen some posts where the PS says "no bra needed ever again" and I've seen others where the PS says "you'll always need a bra for extra support for the implants".

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited May 2016

    GreyKat, one of my Church Elders, myself and a few others prayed for you this morning. I also added all of the Breast Cancer Sisters here for extra love, care and guidence thru everything we are all going thru or will be going thru <><

  • Papillon1
    Papillon1 Member Posts: 308
    edited May 2016

    hey valstim - I will think of you on the 24 and hope to compare notes after xx

  • Papillon1
    Papillon1 Member Posts: 308
    edited May 2016

    wenchLori, I aM not an especially religious person - jury still out on that for me - but I love the idea you prayed for everyone. What a wonderfully kind and thoughtful thing to do. Thank you,

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited May 2016

    Valstim, WenchLori - I appreciate it all. I'm sorry i can't keep up with everyone's progress on here the way I wanted to. I'm consumed with this brain fog I can't seem to shake and my pain is going up as I'm quitting all the pills in stages trying desperately to reduce the dizziness and nausea and the seeing double. I actually felt better in the hospital, a lot better, than I do now. I'm trying not to give in to a sinking depression but it's been one week and I can't do anything because of seeing double - no reading, nothing - and can't walk by myself without still crashing into walls and stuff - and it's utterly depressing. I'm so grateful I can move my arms but all I want to do is throw up and hide in bed until the world stops swimming. The best thing the drs can tell me is it looks like I can't tolerate the narcotics for pain, at all, so quit them and see if that makes a difference. Which is already hurting more.

    My inner five year old is starting to rise up with lots of tears about being hurt with no end in sight. I may have to disgrace myself one night soon and have a big old pity party for one just to get it out of my system. I love my body. It is strong. It will heal. It just needs time. And I am just going to have to trudge through the pain until it lessons because it looks like I have no other choice.

    At least my legs work, sort of, when I'm not weak or stumbling into walls or falling because I'm dizzy. At least my bum left hand is growing stronger, so the nerve damage from surgery will probably heal within a month. At least I still feel like a woman even if I look really weird in clothes right now. At least one day I'll be able to make my post-surgery goal of taking my usual walk in the park where I don't need breasts to enjoy the breeze in my hair and the leaves rustling, the squirrels chattering, and the birds flirting and nesting. I just have to be able to walk on my own first.

  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited May 2016

    I have a really strange question and I'm not even sure I'm going to be able to articulate this, but.......does anyone else feel coldness in the breast area when you drink something cold? If I drink anything with ice in it, I get a brief sensation of coldness on both sides for only a moment. It doesn't happen with hot drinks, like my morning tea, but it happens every time with cold drinks. Silly, but thought I'd ask if it's just me or if it's normal.

  • Papillon1
    Papillon1 Member Posts: 308
    edited May 2016

    I have been prescribed paracetamol only for when I leave hospital, so from day 4 onwards?... Could be worth getting off the heavy duty painkillers and alternating ibuprofen and paracetamol. X

  • DancingElizabeth
    DancingElizabeth Member Posts: 415
    edited May 2016

    Hi All - Please add me to the list! Mine is on Wednesday, May 20th!! YIKES!

    Just a question, I'm not sure if I should take my iPad or not to the hospital...I've read conflicting things about bringing valuables....

    But, I'm definitely taking my phone...

    Also, does anybody know when it's possible to sleep in a normal position again? (I assume after the drains come out?)

    Any advice would be great!! Thanks

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited May 2016

    it seems I have so much to catch up on this afternoon. Maybe after I feed everyone they will give me more than 10 minutes to myself

  • Ausbear
    Ausbear Member Posts: 35
    edited May 2016

    Hi raven4mi,

    I also have that feeling. When I drink an icy cold water, I can feel it in my chest - but only where the breasts used to be. I had a big conversation with my surgeon about the surgical procedure, and he explained that the area where the breast was taken from is now essentially skin over muscle over bone. As in no body fat. The surrounding areas still have body fat (and I am not a teeny tiny person so there is some padding there )

    My guess is that the body fat helps to insulate a bit, and the lack of it over my former breast area is why I can feel the cold.

    Any other suggestions?

    C

  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited May 2016

    Here's you wacky post-mastectomy funny for the day - I was just pinning Flotsam inside my outfit and stuck the safety pin straight through the tube, so now I have two pin-prick sized holes at one point in my drain tube. Oi.

    Good golly.

  • Valstim52
    Valstim52 Member Posts: 1,324
    edited May 2016

    Welcome Scared67 I'm right behind ya. Good Golly Miss Molly, raven4mi, so flotsam has a leak?



  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited May 2016

    Well ladies I've reached my limit. I quit all my meds this afternoon. One solid week of double vision, constant dizziness, the inability to walk without assistance, and vomiting up every last sip of every last thing and I feel worse than when I was in the hospital. Not as bad as when I had no pain killers after the surgery and my chest was screaming on fire, of course, but I've just had it. What's the worst that can happen - I hurt a whole lot? I've already hurt a whole lot. I'd rather be able to walk to the bathroom without slamming into a wall or drinking water without spitting it back up like a baby.

    Besides my spouse seems to have lost patience with my not improving and I'm tired of apologizing for not doing better than I already am and for being so "needy". It's making me angry and I'm just sick of this whole thing. It's not like I can control any of this!

    Bum left hand is now developing a green bruise. I cannot wait for my post-ops on Tuesday because we are going to have a long list of things to chat about.

  • myToyStory2
    myToyStory2 Member Posts: 162
    edited May 2016

    Busy doing last-minute chores and organizing family schedules for the week before tomorrow's surgery. Reporting to the hospital bright and early - 6:45 am - for BMX and tissue expander placement. Sending best wishes to all ladies who begin this leg of their journey this week, and hugs to all who are recovering from their surgeries! Grateful for the BCO community and this group of women who have been so open and honest about sharing their experiences.

  • GreyKat
    GreyKat Member Posts: 225
    edited May 2016

    Good luck to this week's ladies heading into surgery. You all will be in my thoughts and it's true what everyone on here says - once it's over, it's such a relief to not have to dread it anymore. I have every confidence in you all that this is something you can make it through with grace.

  • tsoebbin
    tsoebbin Member Posts: 474
    edited May 2016

    Sending positive vibes to all having surgery this week and to those post op that are healing.

  • Twirp26
    Twirp26 Member Posts: 178
    edited May 2016

    hi everyone!! I had a oncoplasty done on May 9th. This is basically a lumpectomy with a reduction and a lift done to both sides. Unfortunately my margins did not come back clean:( now I will need mastectomy. They are trying to decide the order I should proceed. I have some stinky nodes under my collar bone that can not be touched surgically. I find out this week what my plan will be. I'm doing a BMX first chance I can get. Need to wait for reconstruction due to rads. Wishing everyone well!!

  • Midwest
    Midwest Member Posts: 34
    edited May 2016

    myToystory2, best of luck tomorrow,keeping you in my thoughts!

    WenchLori, that was so sweet of you and your church friends!

    Greycat, you are being very strong, you have a good plan, rest well tonight. You got through the first week, remember, baby steps! We are all rooting for you.

    raven4mi, so Flotsam is injured?maybe it`s nearing his end. No cold sensation here but I do not like icy drinks that much.

    Scared67, I did have my husband hold my Ipad during surgery and did use it a lot after, not nervous at all of leaving it on the table, I was not sleeping much at all.

    I could sleep on my side now,13 days after surgery but I am cozy with my pillow cocoon and also afraid of shifting something so, still sleeping on my back, just not with that many pillows under.

    Papillon1, love your name, just imagining an alpine meadow with papillons flying around. For the medicine,I was sent home with oxycodone,1 to 3 pills to take at once.The most I took were 2 at once, at night and the first evening. After 2 days, my main goal was to use the bathroom(you see what I mean) so I stopped the pain killer. Did not notice any difference in pain. It was only when I was getting up or doing certain movements. My doctor prescribed me muscle relaxants too. I might still need those, with all the tightness going on.

    Valstim52,the camisole was given at the hospital, the Amoena white one. I had been wearing it when going out and keeping it half unzipped at home. It is a nice, quite soft, albeit rather plain looking one.

    AusBear and Hydranne, nice to hear from you and read that things are going well!

  • raven4mi
    raven4mi Member Posts: 562
    edited May 2016

    Keeping everyone who has surgery this week in my thoughts and prayers. Update when you can to let us know how you're all doing. Healing hugs to all!

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