Starting Chemo May 2016

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  • KQHill
    KQHill Member Posts: 50
    edited May 2016

    Viktoryak, the plan right now is chemo and then surgery but not sure where another chemo and radiation fit in. Definitely chemo and then lumpectomy though. C'mon Friday!!!

  • viktoryak
    viktoryak Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2016

    KQHill, So you are seeing your Dr. on Friday? Keep us posted and good luck. For me was lumpectomy first then after about 8 weeks i started chemo. I had a chance to pre planed vacation in Costa Rica for my son's school holiday ,5 weeks after surgery.(MO let me do it) I did zip-line, many hikes and all active staff I did before stupid cancer.And I felt so much the same finally the minute I left New York... I felt there no cancer there and I am back to old myself. But I had to face reality and go back for treatments :(

    Now chemo then radiation next and a year Herceptin injections every 3 weeks. Hope I can be active.. I hate not to exercise and so scared of weight gain... Hope taxol will be gentle on me.

    Good luck to you, KQHill , I hope your chemo regiment will not be to difficult!!

    We are here for you. Honestly , this forum keeps me going. I am so addicted to talking to you all girls! It really helps me a lot with my emotions and know that there people i can talk to.

  • KQHill
    KQHill Member Posts: 50
    edited May 2016

    Viktoryak, I meet with the medical oncologist for the first time on Friday afternoon after having the BRCA test done that morning. Mediport insertion on Monday early morning. I'm so ready for SOMETHING to happen besides tests and more tests. Yes, I'm impatient

  • viktoryak
    viktoryak Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2016

    KQHILL, why do you qneed a port? I asked my MO about it and was told if nurses can manage to find my veins it's better not to have a port. I am at SMK hospital in NY they supposedly be innovative with many clinical studies and researches..... So I went by what Dr. Said. Not so pleasant to have my vein to be poked all the time. But I can survive. Just wonder why some people do get a port ?

  • OAJ2013
    OAJ2013 Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2016

    Viktoryak, how many cycles are you getting? I will have 4 cycles of AC dose dense follows by 12 weekly taxol cycles. It's my understanding that Chemo can be very hard on the veins and can burst easily making it hard to find a spot for the infusion. This is why my Drs had me get a port.

  • viktoryak
    viktoryak Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2016

    I have 12 rounds of Taxol plus one year more of Herceptin. (every 3 weeks but it is not chemo). I asked about port but they keep saying no need. Let's see how it will go. 2 Taxols down 10 more to go :(

  • brandford37
    brandford37 Member Posts: 71
    edited May 2016

    Same here I'm starting Chemo May 23 and I asked my MO about the port he told me no need to I got good veins.. I was wondering the same thing why not put in a port everytime I go for treatment they going to long for veins

  • KQHill
    KQHill Member Posts: 50
    edited May 2016

    I would MUCH rather have a port than be stuck each time so I was happy they offered because I would've asked anyway.

  • Babcha
    Babcha Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2016

    Hello Ladies!

    Am so glad I found your forum which I have found so helpful and informative. Reading all of your stories made my heart cry for all of us but what jumped out at me was that here is a place that we can share with minimal words, know what challenges each of us are going through and instantly support each other. I am praying for all of us.

    Here is my story:

    I was diagnosed with ICDIS mid January this year, with pathology ER+, PR+, HER2+. I underwent a lumpectomy then mastectomy as one of the three areas had + pre- cancerous cells but no lymph nodes involvement. The final tumor size was 2.3 cm.

    I just went through my first Chemo cycle of TCH but my HMO does not cover Perjeta, so I was relieved to hear that Herceptin alone with 5 years post Chemo hormone therapy is good.

    Days 4,5, 10 and 11 have been very rough with post chemo side effects. On day 11 I was so overwhelmed, I didn't really care if I lived or died as the thought of going through this for 4 more months was unbearable. Luckily day 12 and today brought some relief and I am happy to live with my new normal, baseline crappy ( constipation, GI upsets, dry and metallic mouth, taste buds fluctuation, etc.)

    How did you all get through Chemo side effects on your worst days? What were some of the side effects you suffered and how did you manage them? What were some of the things you learned to do in preparation for your second chemo to manage anticipated side effects? When did your hair fall out?

    I know I am asking a lot of questions, but I don' t have a large support group of women who are going through this and I am trying to find ways to cope in the best way that I can, manage my feelings of anxiety and anticipation for my next cycle.

    Any info you can share would be greatly appreciated.

    Thank you for listening.

  • laura_ingalls
    laura_ingalls Member Posts: 78
    edited May 2016

    Hi there babcha.

    Thanks for praying for us.

    My coping strategy is simple: I am taking it one day or one moment at a time. There is no other way to face the dread of my next session. I hear that hair falls out within two weeks btw My scalp is tingling and it's been about a week since my first chemo

    These past few days have been the hardest of my life. I Pray for peace and relief for all of us going through this horrible ordeal.

    if you go through the whole thread you will see lots of advice and helpful tips. Here's one new one: use cocoa butter for the tingling in the hands.

    Love and hugs to you.

    Laura*

  • Babcha
    Babcha Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2016

    Hi Laura,

    Thank you for your words of advice, inspiration and suggestions, so greatly appreciated:) I will try not to look to far ahead and just focus on each moment as it comes, since we can' t change or control what will come.

    I am 13 days post chemo today and although my hair is still here, I have noticed more thinning each time that I wash it. In my head, I know that it will fall out but I expect the emotions attached to losing it only surface when it actually falls out. I already bought a wig and a couple of halo hats in anticipation. Will have my hair shaved once it starts to fall out in clumps. Also have a bunch of caps, scarves and hats ready for the wear.

    Indeed those first few days post chemo are life changing and the hardest, something we could never have imagined or even imparted to each other in the telling; I suppose we just have to live it to really understand. That is the wonderful and unique strength of each of us in this forum, we truly understand and appreciate each other's experience without having to explain.

    Yes, prayer and our faith will certainly get us through and help us persevere-when I feel really anxious I pray and pray and pray..........and it brings me solace.

    On my next run to the store I will get some cocoa butter and try to use it on my hands for the tingling. I wonder what is in it that helps? I have already made a trip to CVS for Claritin, Prilosec, etc as all suggestions are welcome to lessen the SE's from chemo.

    We'll take care my dear and thank you again for your support and love💕

    Sending you love, hugs and prayer, Babcha❤️H💫



  • KQHill
    KQHill Member Posts: 50
    edited May 2016

    Yesterday was chemo prep shopping day -

    • a couple of glass water bottles. I'm not sure on the whole BPA thing with plastic but know my normal metal Hydroflasks won't work with metallic taste problems. (Target)
    • Colace and Senokot (Target)
    • soft oversized throw to take to treatment (Costco)
    • different types of ginger candies (TJ Maxx and Marshalls)
    • neck pillow (Marshalls)
    • fluffy socks with treads (Marshalls)
    • wedge pillow - not happy I'll have to change from sleeping on my side to my back. I've been sleeping on the left side since I was pregnant with my oldest 28+ years ago! (Amazon)
    • travel barf bags (Amazon)
    ... and a Fitbit Alta to nudge myself to walk.

    Empty deodorant "tubes" arrive today from Amazon so I can make my own deodorant and I'll be hunting for some good natural antibac recipes to make spray for stuff and gel for my hands.

    Last weekend I ordered my first head scarf from etsy and it arrived yesterday. I can't make myself open the package yet.
  • brandford37
    brandford37 Member Posts: 71
    edited May 2016

    Hello ladies hope everyone doing OK with your treatment .... did anyone did a Echo test before Chemo

  • Bmg
    Bmg Member Posts: 7
    edited May 2016

    Hi , I just finished Ac and started taxol I have 3 more to go then a lumpectomy . Like you I was shocked .im 54 and have two daughters 21 and 24 . Stay strong and I'm here if you want to chat

  • Bmg
    Bmg Member Posts: 7
    edited May 2016

    Hi , I'm in Nj and go to Sloan in basking ridge

  • viktoryak
    viktoryak Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2016

    Bmg, I am also in NJ ( north) but go to Sloan in the city.

    Brandford37, I did eco before starting chemo. I believe it's requirement to make sure your heart can take all the crap they give you in chemo and in my case Herceptin to.

  • KQHill
    KQHill Member Posts: 50
    edited May 2016

    EKG tomorrow, along with blood draw, for my port insertion on Monday and chemo sometime after. My MO said it was a must-do.

  • OAJ2013
    OAJ2013 Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2016

    Babcha,

    These two small books really help me to remain focused on God and give me strength!

    http://document.desiringgod.org/don-t-waste-your-c...

    And this one I bought for $1.99 on Kindkebut it gives amazing little prayers and positive thinking to beat this!image

  • Babcha
    Babcha Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2016

    Thank you so much for these book recommendation So! I just bought them on Kindle and am waiting for them to arrive. I will let you know once I receive and read them.

    Yes, always being mindful to keep positive and get to the other side of this.

    You take care, hugs, Babcha

  • Babcha
    Babcha Member Posts: 5
    edited May 2016

    Yes, they had me undergo the MUGA Nuclear Medicine test where they injected me with radioactive solution, about a week before my first chemo. They told me to Be careful around young children and babies for 48 hours, not to hold them, as I would be radioactive for that time. It freaked me outt when they told me that, but after doing some reading on the subject, I understood why

  • KQHill
    KQHill Member Posts: 50
    edited May 2016

    I have a chemo start date! May 19th at 9am. It seems silly to be excited about such a thing but it's wonderful to have a date and a plan.

    BRCA test was done today, as well as EKG (great) and lab work sent out. I'll have a MUGA done next week, either Tues or Wed since the port insertion is Monday and chemo begins Thursday.

    How's everyone else doing?

  • soareagle1962
    soareagle1962 Member Posts: 18
    edited May 2016

    Hello. This is my first post. My name is Sandra and I start my first chemo (AC) on Monday. I have IDC multi-centric tumors (5) with one tumor that is skin invasive and two against my chest wall, so chemo first to try to shrink the tumors then surgery, radiation, and then reconstruction. This is all in my left breast; my right breast shows no cancer. That is good news, right?

    I have been reading through the posts and want to thank all of you for sharing. It is helpful to those of us who receive support just by reading the threads on the discussion boards. I have hesitated to join in until now thinking reading on my own was enough. I try to keep my emotions in check and put on a brave face. It is difficult right now knowing I am starting chemo in only a couple of days and feeling alone even with so many people around me who care. My husband is amazing and very supportive. I have two daughters living in CA (32, 33) and 3 grandchildren (13, 5, & 2 months). I live in WA.

    How is everyone dealing with work? My boss is very supportive and wants me to work from home as much as I can but wants me to focus on my health. It is difficult because I feel checked out at work. My availability is up in the air since I do not know how my body will respond to chemo.

    I look forward to hearing from you.

    Sandra

  • 2pyrenees
    2pyrenees Member Posts: 6
    edited May 2016

    soareagle, I too have done mostly reading of others experiences. These discussion boards have been such a huge help to me. I have a sense of 'survivors guilt' after reading what so many others are having to go through that I don't have to or won't have to go through myself.

    I had my port installed this past Wednesday and my first treatment the next day with the neulasta shot yesterday. All went very well and smooth and So far, I feel really well. I do feel like I'm a ticking SE bomb waiting to go off though. The anticipation of what might be is tough for me.

    I have a very supportive boss and work environment. My boss wants me to focus on my health first and foremost. Not everybody is so lucky to have such wonderful supportive employers. My advice is to take it one day at a time, listen to your body and don't over exert yourself. Work as much as you feel up to and don't worry about the days your not up to it.

    I'm sure there are others with experience that will comment as well, but wanted to share as a fellow newbie.

    Love, prayers and hugs to all, ❤️

    Julie

  • OAJ2013
    OAJ2013 Member Posts: 85
    edited May 2016

    Hey Sandra,

    I think you'll be able to work from home some days and others you'll just need to rest. I'm a teacher, so it's not really possible for me to work. Too much to think about sub plans, grading, regular planning, plus all the germs those little ones bring! So I took the rest of the school year off. I'm hoping once I'm on weekly taxol, I'll be able to go back to work a couple of days a week. Good luck tomorrow! I'll be starting round 2 tomorrow.

  • KQHill
    KQHill Member Posts: 50
    edited May 2016

    The port is IN! I don't remember a thing about the procedure once I moved from the gurney to the operating table and the cannula was positioned in my nose. Next thing I knew, I was back in the OR prep room!

    I'm a little sore and tender and Shakeology was MUCH appreciated since I normally eat really early after my workout. And WATER! Water was heaven!

    Apparently the breast surgeon said it took a little longer since he had to "go in deeper than planned" so I'll find out from him what happened. My MIL was just happy I was done and okay so she didn't question him.

  • KQHill
    KQHill Member Posts: 50
    edited May 2016

    And now the meeting with the infusion/oncology nurse is scheduled tomorrow at 11:45am and then the MUGA at 12:45pm. We're cooking with gas now!

  • JuicyFruit
    JuicyFruit Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2016

    Hi all,

    These boards have been a Godsend. I have been lurking for months. I am so thankful to you for all the information and stories and the shopping lists, makes it less scary and makes me feel more in control and less alone.

    I have stage 3 breast cancer and am getting a PET scan at the end of the month to see if it has spread outside the lymph nodes. I started chemo May 9th to try to shrink the tumor before surgery could be an option. I started on the P mixture of the AC-P combo because if the cancer has spread then at least the P part would be helpful. I hear people talk about Taxol and I think that is what the P is.

    The 1st chemo went well, took about 4 hours but the time flew with the nice volunteers who dropped in for conversations and to offer coffee, and they gave me a medication to prevent any allergic reactions whick made me drowsy so I slept a bit, especially with the hot blanket. The only reaction I had was about 12 hours later my hands were a bit numb and tingly but that only lasted about 3 hours. The next 3 days, I was a little spacey and tired but struggled through my work days. I am self employed so need to work. I had to inject Neuprogen for 5 days following chemo and surprisingly injecting the needle was ok, but it was hard to draw up the medication from the vial to the syringe. So much for the aeseptic techniques - the vial landed on the bathroom floor many times. Main side effects are: hard to sleep, foggy mind, change in bowel habits.

    One nice thing about starting on the P-cycle is that my hair won`t fall out. My cousin is getting married at the end of the month, so this was good news. Dreading the AC-cycle but will enjoy what I have now and face that later.

    Again, thank you for all the information and support.




  • viktoryak
    viktoryak Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2016

    Nyissa, Best of luck to you! I don't know what is P-cycle but for sure not Taxol. Hair only stay in 2% of people on Taxol. I am going to #3 Taxol. Of 12 weekly rounds today... Hope will go not worst then last 2 times. Had no hair problem yet. But it's too early I believe plus I am doing Cold caps so hope it will only shed a bit.

  • JuicyFruit
    JuicyFruit Member Posts: 8
    edited May 2016

    Thank you Viktory. I should find out what the P cycle is. The chemo happened so fast and the cancer diagnosis was so overwhelming, even the simplest of instructions or information was hard to absorb. I am now at the point where I can say I have breast cancer without my voice quivering and my eyes welting.

    Today I went to a free class run by beauty expert volunteers at the BC Cancer Agency, called Look Good, Feel Better. Not sure if this is a Canadian program or they have it in the US. It is sponsored by Shoppers Drug Mart, Estee Lauder, Elizabeth Grant and many, many others. If anyone has a chance to go, I highly recommend it. They go over skin care (esp for dry skin with cancer), make up , wigs, hair scarves. It was nice to meet and exchange information with other women that have cancer. In Canada, for program information call 1-800-914-5665. They give a ton of free really nice cosmetics and creams donated by sponsors. I am not a big make up person, but I felt great after the session.

    Some things I learned is not to use Johnson baby shampoo on your scalp. They recommend continuing to wash your hair with shampoo to massage the scalp, but the baby shampoo is not formulated for adults and dries the skin. One participant had a nasty rash on her head from the baby shampoo and was taking antibiotics. Another thing about hair that you see on You tube videos is people shaving it all off. That is not recommended. There are scissors to buy at the drugstore (or go to the hairdresser) that have a 1 inch (or 2 inch, etc) guards that cut the hair shorter. I can`t quite picture what these scissors look like. Your hair needs to fall out on its own. And when the 1st hairs grow back (chemo hair) it should be cut off so the real hair can grown in.


  • viktoryak
    viktoryak Member Posts: 266
    edited May 2016

    Ladies, NYisa, Thank you,I heared about this program. They do have it in US.. Since I use cold caps. I hoped I will not need it..but who knows too early to know yet if I will need .Maybe I will check it will be also great opportunity to meet people.

    I wanted to share what i was recommended by my cold caps company for eye lashes and eye brows so they will not come out. Don't know if it will work but I been using religiously twice a day as recommended. It's pricy but if it works it worth all the money.( see image below)

    P.s. Taxol #3 over yesterday! 1/4 of the treatment is done. Don't know what week 3 will bring for me. Hope it will be the Same as last few... One se for sure. Woke up at 2am can't sleep. Just took Xanax hope it will nuck me out soon.

    I did go with icing my feet and toes during chemo and cold caps for 6 hours. Can't say it was easy.. It's real torture.Just hope it will work#

    When do the hair on Taxol only suppose to shed?

    Best of luck to you, Ladies! Let us all to stay strong!

    Image of the product I use for eyelashes and brows. Btw I was told to use twice a day not once as instruction tells.

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