mastectomy or lumpectomy?

Fari95
Fari95 Member Posts: 11

hello everyone!

I had a breast conserving surgery nearly 7 months ago. Now I'm preparing for my radiotherapy in a few coming days. But I just found out that for people with the probability of having genetic mutations, mastectomy is better than BCS. Since I lost my mom for the same disease 6 months ago I am afraid to have these genetic mutations (BRCA1/2). Because my surgeon did not give me this information in the time of surgery (and I'm angry of him now!) I didn't do the tests. Now I don't know what to do; going for my radiotherapy? or doing the genetic tests and waiting for a few months for results then having double mastectomy? or what?

I'm really nervous...

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  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited May 2016

    Fari - neither my sister nor I were told about those tests either until after the fact. Our mother had BC in her late 60s and that was in the late 1980s. She had a MX. She had decided ahead of time to have one once it was confirmed she had BC. No lymph node involvement. However, that was a long time ago and there weren't a lot of options available like there are now. My sister was asked after her MX if she wanted to take the test. She doesn't have any children but there are a number of nieces and nephews. She said no. I wasn't asked I just heard about the test. I have 3 granddaughters and 1 step granddaughter. Naturally 3 of them are high risk because of me. Not sure whether my daughter will have the test or not or her daughters.

    Your Dr should have told you. We need to be armed with all the information available so we can choose what's best for us. It's our life not their's.

    Given you lost your mother because of BC, and I'm so sorry about that, I think I would have the test. My mom died 10 years ago but not from BC. At least you would know. Had that information been available to me beforehand I might have opted for a MX but instead chose a lumpectomy because I had IDC Stage 1a, Grade 1 and my tumor was small. I will be 5 years out in August; my sister is a year behind me. She had ILC. She had one breast removed.

    However, we also all have to be our own advocates. Don't rely solely on what the Dr tells you. We all had to learn to do our own homework. This forum is very helpful. It's been my lifeline from the onset.

    Good luck and keep the faith and keep us posted.

    Diane


  • keepthefaith
    keepthefaith Member Posts: 2,156
    edited May 2016

    For what it's worth, I have been told by Dr's that the BRCA test is something they normally do if your family member was DX'd prior to menopause. I am not certain, so do some research. My Mom was DX'd at 60, my half-sister at 28, she is neg. I was DX'd at 58 and I am neg, as is my 30 YO daughter....I am sure there are other mutations that researchers have yet to uncover. I do have a mutation "of unknown significance".

    You can always get another opinion. A lot of hard decisions. Best wishes in making yours!

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited May 2016

    There is a lot, a LOT of cancer on both sides of my family. I had two different tests, one for the more common gene mutations like BRCA 1 & BRCA 2, and the other was a 32 gene panel which included many of the very rare genetic mutations. I turned up positive for not one, but TWO rare gene mutations. As a result I ended up with bilateral mastectomies instead of my lumpectomy, as had been planned.

    I'm really glad that I had the testing done. I have a 22 year old daughter and a 29 year old son. They were both tested for the gene mutations that I have. My son was negative for both, but my daughter was positive for both. Obviously, this was devastating for me, as much as it was for her. My daughter has said on several occasions that she feels doomed. This makes me very sad. But as I told her, she is fortunate to know. Had I known before I had breast cancer I might have made different decisions and I certainly would have had better surveillance. I am taking her to the breast doctor next week so they can come up with a plan for following her breast health

  • Francesj19
    Francesj19 Member Posts: 81
    edited May 2016

    Mustlovepoodles - so sorry to hear this about your daughter. I have two very young daughters and not sure I what I would do. . Question for you, so you had your lumpectomy and then after your genetic testing they decided to do the mastectomy? I am very curious and it seems so many people start with a Mastectomy but I was told a lumpectomy. What makes that decision?

  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited May 2016

    Francis, I started with lumpectomy because my cancer was small and hormone receptive. Only after the lumpectomy did we find out that I was actually PR negative which is more aggressive cancer. About that same time we found out about the gene mutations. At that point, my MO strongly recommended that I have chemotherapy and bilateral mastectomies due to the high risk of recurrence. When she sent me to the GYN the decision was made that I also need a total hysterectomy, due to family history and the gene mutations. Since that is preventative, I'll probably have that done in the late fall.

    Had I known all this prior to the initial LX I would have made the decIson for BMX right out of the gate. But it is what it is. I have not been happy with this BMX but I am satisfied that I have done absolutely everything to ward off recurrence.

  • Fari95
    Fari95 Member Posts: 11
    edited May 2016

    Thank you dear Diane. I absolutely agree with you; we mustn't rely only on what the doctors tell us. Today I went and had the test ( BRCA1/2). Now I'm waiting for the results and searching medical articles about mastectomy and lumpectomy in BRCA1/2 carriers because I don't like to be shocked and embarrassed when I get the results.

    I wish you and your sister and your whole family, happiness and health. Of course I'm glad that I'm here and find new brave friends like you.

  • Fari95
    Fari95 Member Posts: 11
    edited May 2016

    Thanks for your kind advice, I'm glad that I'm here and find new brave friends like you.

    Diane-Thank you dear Diane. I absolutely agree with you; we mustn't rely only on what the doctors tell us. At the end of the day it is our life not theirs.

    Keepthefaith-Today I went and had the test ( BRCA1/2). Now I'm waiting for the results and searching medical articles about mastectomy and lumpectomy in BRCA1/2 carriers because I don't like to be shocked and embarrassed when I get the results.

    Mustlovepoodles- We both are in similar situation because if my test results are positive I may have BMX in the coming summer. A question: Does it matter to have this operation several months after the first diagnosis?

    I wish you all and your families happiness and health.

    Fari

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited May 2016

    Fari, I hope you had the opportunity to consider whether to have testing for mutations other than BRCA1/2, as other mutations (such as Chek2, PALB2, BARD, etc., can also contribute to the risk of breast cancer (and others). Could you ask your doctor or genetic counselor about these (they would show up in what is called an "extended panel.")

    Some of the decisions can be influenced by age. I only found out my results a couple of weeks before my lumpectomy. My surgeon told me that if I were 10 years younger she would advise bi-lateral mastectomies and that if I were older she'd say no need but as it was, I fall into a grey area.

    Since we were dealing with another serious illness in the family at the same time and I had NOT been thinking in terms of bmx and was completely unprepared for that type of recovery, I decided to stick with the lumpectomy, knowing that I am being closely monitored and that I can have additional surgery (if I choose) at any time in the future.

    Good luck with your testing, Fari, and your decision making, too. I know it's hard; listen to your own spirit and do what feels right for YOU.


  • mustlovepoodles
    mustlovepoodles Member Posts: 2,825
    edited May 2016

    Fari, you'd have to ask your MO whether waiting several months is a good idea in your case. By the time we found out my gene mutations, my lumpectomy and re-excision were behind me. I *could* have had the BMX right after that, but I needed to start chemo and the MO wasn't willing to wait until I was all healed up from the BMX to start that business. Indeed, a good idea, because it's been 15 WEEKS and the wound is still not completely healed. So, I had chemo from Oct-Dec 2015, then the BMX in Feb 2016. The MO felt that since I had the BMX, I would not need radiation, so there's some small comfort.

  • Fari95
    Fari95 Member Posts: 11
    edited May 2016

    Thank you very much dear Hopeful82014 and dear Mustlovepoodels.

    I talked with my MO and he said I'd better to have BMX. I will also go to my surgeon tomorrow to talk with him ( and of course for complaining about not telling me about the genetic tests !!!) As I said before my big concern is that I'm afraid it may be late to have BMX. I hope it is not late anyway.

    oh another question: my lymph nodes were clear and now I want to know if I need to remove them or not. What did you do dear Mustlove poodles in your BMX?( IF YOU DON'T MIND) :)


  • Janett2014
    Janett2014 Member Posts: 3,833
    edited May 2016

    Fari95,

    If your lymph nodes were clear they will not be removed on purpose. During a BMX though, some nodes come out with the breast tissue because they are scattered throughout the tissue.I had large breasts, and 10 nodes were removed during my BMX. All nodes that are removed (even "accidentally") will be tested; mine were all negative thank goodness.

    Edited for typo.

  • Fari95
    Fari95 Member Posts: 11
    edited May 2016

    Janett2014,

    Thank you very much dear Janett. Glad to hear that your lymph nodes were clear:)

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