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  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited May 2016

    First of all--iammags--thanks for the smile! I am totally stealing that picture.

    I just got home from my planning meeting. I'll start next Wed (5/18), although if I end up doing the breathing thing (what's that called again??), it might only be a dry run. I'll be getting weekly X-rays. Will meet with RO on Wednesdays. My place sounds a bit different--every Friday I'll get my schedule for the following week. They said it's a little fluid because sometimes they get emergencies, or have to treat someone twice in a day, or a machine might be getting serviced. Thankfully my work schedule is pretty flexible. Getting 15 + 5 boosts. One woman I met with said the fatigue is frequently worst about a week after treatment. As of now my last treatment should be 8-9 days before my son's wedding. :-(

    Was anyone told not to put *anything* on the skin until after the first five treatments? They gave me some aloe to get going with when it's time. And does anyone have experience with a comfort sling? I read about it back when I first decided I'd get radiation. It's kind of a holster that loops under your hooter to hold it up in an effort to avoid that ugliness that sometimes happens with the skin-on-skin underneath the breast. I went ahead and ordered one so I guess we'll see. . .

  • iammags
    iammags Member Posts: 216
    edited May 2016

    Thanks Ingerp, I like that picture, too. In fact, I stole it from another forum, but I've forgotten which one. Sometimes when I get really crazy I sprinkle my latte with Ativan, too



  • texasminded
    texasminded Member Posts: 2
    edited May 2016

    I had 35 RAD treatments in the summer of 2012. I had very few problems with my skin/burns. The first thing I did was buy a big bottle of Aloe Vera juice at Walmart. It is not expensive. I poured some in a Ziplock bag, added a washrag and put it in the fridge. Every morning I would get it and take it with me. When I got back to the car, I would take out the rag and put it under my breast. It was amazing how hot it would be when I removed it. I did this several times on my way home. (My hubby was driving). When I got home, I removed my shirt and let the air get to it. I also used Aquaphor. It is also not expensive at Walmart, but I got my first sample at Texas Oncology. I had very little skin breakage under my breast. My last week of RAD was a little tougher because those 5 treatments were centered on my incisions and the skin broke more that it did earlier. I had a big jar of Silvadene Cream but it did not help the situation at all. I kept putting the Aloe Vera on it and the Aquaphor. The nurses told me that my skin was way better than most taking the same treatments.

    If you are experiencing broken skin, it is important to go without a bra and just let air get to it. Then apply the Aloe Vera and Aquaphor religiously and I think you will have a better outcome. I bought a few tops that were loose. I even went to work without a bra until all the spots were healed.

    I hope this helps someone get through those treatments.

  • Paxton29
    Paxton29 Member Posts: 221
    edited May 2016

    I was actually told to start with the lotions right away, from the first treatment. I shower in the mornings, using Dove unscented soap (I miss my fragrant body wash!). I never moisturize my chest anyway so that part of the routine doesn't change. My appointments are at 10, so afterwards I put on emu oil cream (from CVS), which I really like even though it too is unscented--absorbs very quickly and is very softening. Then I put on deodorant; since my appointment is so soon after my shower that's no big deal. When I get home I apply emu oil again, then Aquaphor at bedtime. So far so good.

    Texas Oncology? Which one? I treat in New Braunfels.

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited May 2016

    Thanks for the info, Texasminded. It really is helpful to hear from people who are on the other side of treatment!

  • kbutler
    kbutler Member Posts: 66
    edited May 2016

    Finished #28 today. Go for the simulation for the boosts tomorrow then resume treatment Friday for the 5 boosts. Still no serious skin issues. It has gone by pretty fast and I can know see a light at the end of the tunnel. Now that I am just about finished with rads I'm going to schedule my oopherectomy.
  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited May 2016

    Great advice, texasminded! Thanks for joining and sharing! We look forward to hearing more tips from you.

    --The Mods

  • Sheri64
    Sheri64 Member Posts: 113
    edited May 2016

    Well did # 17 of 36 today, it is going quicker then I thought.  Just a little pink so far, only using CVS Blue Aloe for now.   Hope everyone is having a good day and we get done with rads fast.  Last active treatment for me.  Next is Hormonal Therapy.

  • Lemint
    Lemint Member Posts: 162
    edited May 2016

    Hi everyone, I have done 23 of 33 rad, 5 being boosts. Today after treatment RO looked me over and said I don't need the boosts. I'm so glad. I am so red and sore. I have peeling skin in my arm pit and under, on top and between my breasts. He said it would get worse before it gets better. Well at least it's almost done. I hope you are all coping okay.

  • Myraknits
    Myraknits Member Posts: 264
    edited May 2016

    hi all, I'm coming to the end of my neoadjuvant chemo and have to make a decision about lumpectomy and rads vs mastectomy. I have a fairly severe heart arrhythmia and have had some very bad incidents with dehydration and my heart during chemo, including hospitalization. I've read a number of things about side effects from rads causing heart damage that's making me lean toward a mastectomy. I'm wondering if anyone else is weighing heart issues as a concern as well?

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited May 2016

    Speaking of heart damage, who is doing DIBH? I'm pretty sure I'll be doing that when I start next week, and I'm wondering how long you have to hold your breath? It sounds kind of silly but I am planning on practicing the next few days.

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2016

    Hope everyone is feeling "radiant" today :) #6 of 21 today and everything is still completely normal.

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  • twiggyOR
    twiggyOR Member Posts: 270
    edited May 2016

    I finished rads with the breath hold device last week. They call it the ABC device where I went. I had to hold my breath for 30 seconds. It was easy. Some tips:

    Use a slow steady breath to inhale up to the cutoff point

    If you feel anxiety at any point ask to do some practice breaths

    Keep an eye out your air leaks in your "snorkle". They had to fidget with mine to get the air seal tight.

    Don't be hesitant to talk to your techs if you have any concerns. I started having anxiety/difficulty after about a week. We did some practice breaths the next day and it was a piece of cake after that.


  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited May 2016

    Thanks, twiggyOR. I did some research this morning (here's a great article: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC436480... ). I did not have the ABC set-up but the RPM, although not the goggles shown in the article. Every time I did an inhale-and-hold they told me I was doing a great job, although maybe they say that to everyone. ;-) I do think doing yoga the last couple of years helped with the breathing as well as relaxing all of my body parts while on the table (it *really* helped during the MRI). I'm just not great at holding my breath--I went and read a lot of the posts from the Winter 2015-2016 thread and someone there said 20 seconds--she actually counted each time. (I just did it for 20 seconds--not too bad. :-D 30 makes me a little yalsy. :-( )


  • iammags
    iammags Member Posts: 216
    edited May 2016

    Grazy- you are funny! I don't know about radiant I'm just glad that I'm not radiating. :)

    My bc was on the right so I don't have to hold my breath. Good luck to all of you that do.

    Myraknits- how scary for you to be dealing with so much! I'm very sorry to hear it. I do know that in study after study it's been proven that surgery + rads+ hormonal therapy has been shown to be just as effective as mx. But I don't know about adding heart problems into the mix. I would consult with my MO, BS, and maybe even a cardiologist.

    LG- is today your last rad? If so, CONGRATS! Onward and upward, as they say! #cancercankissmyass #radiateTHIS

    :) Happy Thursday, BCO sistas!

  • PlanB58
    PlanB58 Member Posts: 157
    edited May 2016

    Ingert -I have been using the device from your article with googles. This is my first week and that has gone just fine! I also think the Pilates and Yoga have helped. My team also tells me I'm a "superstar" at it LOL! I bet they say that to all the girls!😃

    Anyone else feeling nauseated after treatment?

    Thanks for all the posts they really help!

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2016

    Iammags - I love your hashtags! T-shirt ideas?

    (I swear I'm the only one who notices a typo after I press post and has to go back and edit ;)

  • Kkubsky
    Kkubsky Member Posts: 231
    edited May 2016

    Ingerp- I was told to start lotion right away. Just not 2 hours before rads. I put it on right after my treatment everyday and at night. I used Dove soap and was told not to rub my skin dry....just gentle pats.

    I hadn't heard about the sling but I invented my own. I tried hard to avoid that skin to skin but I think I needed a hoist!!!! I also rolled up a cotton pillow case, put it in the fridge to get cool, and then stuck it under my boob when I was home. I tried all sorts of crazy things to prevent that under boob irritation. I wound up getting very very red there and it did peel a bit, but nothing too crazy. Now it is almost back to normal.

    I had more of a skin reaction on the upper inner part of my boob. But that too has healed well.

    My nipple is peeling now....oh what fun. Don't feel anything though.

    Under my lumpectomy scar it is still pretty hard but it doesn't hurt or anything.

    I have my 4 week follow up next week.....

    Hang in there ladies....it does get better.

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited May 2016

    Grazy, you are so funny!!!! Mags, love it! I want to make a t-shirt that says "cancer can kiss my ass! radiate this!!!!!!! Maybe can show a butt with lipstick marks on one butt cheek? Lol!!!! Last treatment today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I got to ring the bell and get my certificate!!!! I loved my rad crew so much, I will miss them and I got to hug them all. I go back for check up in a month and RO told me it will take 1 to 3 months before my breast will be at its new normal and I will be able to tell if there are any changes, but he said not to worry, that plenty of people will be checking my breasts for a while lol! I said "good!", I'm perfectly fine with that! Lol! Never thought I would be ok with opening my gown for everyone to see my breasts! I remember my very first visit, no one had seen my breasts but the mammographer and ultrasound lady with surgeon in a dark room, so I'm sure when the RO and nurse stood back and motioned for me to open my gown that first day, I'm fairly sure I rolled my eyes up in my head and died a slow death when they started at my chest for a while and said "yep, they are symmetrical" , and I think I responded by saying, " I told you so" Lol! Now, they don't have to ask, I just open my gown and say "want to see it?" Lol!!!

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2016

    LG, one thing you do radiate is a whole lot of warmth and fun - you're great!  Congratulations on your last treatment - so exciting! ((hug))

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited May 2016

    Grazy, you'll do great and it'll be over before you know it. I used the cream they gave me after the first week religiously, and the extra lotrisone on itchy spots worked well along with the corn starch patted under the arm and breast during the last week helped too. I'm pretty swollen and breast looks ugly, intermittent pains and extreme nipple sensitivity, but I made it through. Don't be surprised in lymph node area gets sore again too. Mine had finally gotten over being sore, but the radiation irritated it. The good thing is that I haven't had to shave the hair under my arm for the last week or so, it isn't growing anymore lol! If I only didn't have to shave the other one either, SIGH! Lol!!!!!

  • iammags
    iammags Member Posts: 216
    edited May 2016

    LG I am so happy for you! I feel like you are graduating and while I'm happy for you, I'm sad to see you go...Wait...No I'm not! Congrats!!!!

    Grazy you will do great!

    I'm so glad that tomorrow's Friday!

  • New-girl
    New-girl Member Posts: 358
    edited May 2016

    I had simulation today and they said I can expect to lose about 25% of the volume of my DIEP flap. Anyone else on here radiating flaps? I have mourned my right breast like crazy because it took 3 surgeries to get it so pretty and now it is already scarred and shrunken due to the lumpectomy. Seems cruel to now radiate and further abuse it but alas cancer rules over beauty sometimes. Plastic surgeon said nothing can be done for minimum of 6 months to 2 years after radiation to see full effects on the breast. Does this sound right? Seems like lots of women go right into reconstruction after radiation but I could be thinking of no previous reconstruction.

  • Ingerp
    Ingerp Member Posts: 2,624
    edited May 2016

    Wow, Lovinggrouches--excellent news! Where are the balloon emojis? ;-)

    Just throwing this out there. Someone on the Winter thread suggested we keep a journal of the treatment process--I *love* hearing from people who have finished and what happened to them. I started writing this morning--so far just recording what I've been through to date, but I plan to jot a note or two every day through the tx recording how my skin/energy level/. . . are going in the hopes that it will help someone else following behind me.

  • Owens69
    Owens69 Member Posts: 66
    edited May 2016

    Hello Everyone. I joined this forum after my diagnosis of Breast Cancer in March of this year. I had a lumpectomy on April 1st. My surgeon took my case to a tumor board where they recommended chemo and radiation followed by hormonal therapy. Because I had done my research, I requested a CT scan, bone scan, and Oncotype test before I would decide to take chemotherapy, even though every doctor was telling me I would need it. I met with my oncologist today to go over all my results and ... she suggested I do not do chemotherapy since my Oncotype score was low. I am so very happy as this was a huge answer to many, many prayers! I have my simulation for radiation on the 23rd and will start radiation the following Tuesday. I haven't done much research on Radiation, but at least I have some time to educate myself. I'm a little scared, just because of the unknown, and not knowing what side effects I will personally deal with, but I do know God will be with me every step of the way. He has been there for me since Day 1.

    Hug

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2016

    Hi Owens - I began my radiation treatment just last week - I've now had 7 of 21 sessions (16 treatments + 5 boosts). It's rather underwhelming thus far, to be honest. I'm not sure what I was expecting exactly, but it's so quiet and calm in the room, and I'm in and out in about ten minutes. Luckily, I only have a 20 min drive door to door to my cancer center, so my day is hardly impacted. I've no skin issues or fatigue so far, which is a good thing! So, it's been completely uneventful to date. The Radiation Therapists told me I may see skin changes around two weeks, but they rarely see anyone with serious problems. Mind you, we seem to do fewer treatments here in Canada than a lot of American centers, so that may account for the difference, even though the overall dosage is about the same. Mine is what some others refer to as the "Canadian Protocol".

    I'm very glad you didn't have to have chemo! I think it must be so much easier for those of us going into radiation when we haven't had chemotherapy beforehand.

    Something I was told when I joined was that it is very helpful if you fill out your profile and then make it public in your settings - it's too difficult to try to remember everyone's particulars otherwise. :) You can put any other additional details you want to share in your signature.

    Check out the Winter Rads board too - I have found that to be extremely helpful.

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited May 2016

    Welcome Owens!!!!!!! If you have time, read a few pages of previous posts or winter rads, it helped me a lot!!!! Mags, I'm going to try and keep up this thread to keep up with everyone , I'm not going anywhere so soon! 😄 Ingerp, am I missing something with balloon emojis? Lol! I don't have one I can use on my kindle lol!

  • PlanB58
    PlanB58 Member Posts: 157
    edited May 2016

    LG- So happy for you! I will look forward to hearing how you do now that you are done with rads.

    Ingerp- I too have read the winter threads and found them helpful. I think keeping a record of this journey a great idea!

    Welcome Owens this group has been very helpful. I have completed my first week with no problems except for a bit of nausea that lasts for a few hours after treatment. Found some tips on the winter rads to deal with that.

    Grazy thought of your "Radiant " feeling when I was on the table yesterday!😄

    SO HAPPY FOR THE WEEKEND!! Enjoy your time off everyone!

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited May 2016

    Well, day 2 post rads and I have extreme itching and the area under arm pit and sentinel node area that had turned dark brown is now peeling and itchy like crazy! I've been applying cream RO gave me, but think I will pick up some aquafor tomorrow to give more moisture to the areas. They were right when they said I would still have some problems to deal with 2 weeks post rads, but it is all doable- just have to take benadryl something at night to be able to sleep through the extreme itching lol!

  • Jacklin
    Jacklin Member Posts: 162
    edited May 2016

    I will be meeting with my RO on Tuesday for the planning session. I know I'll have at least 25 rad sessions and there will be something involving breathing, not sure if it's ABC or something else.

    I'll be 3 weeks post surgery on Tuesday and still can't raise my left arm past my shoulder - how can they radiate my lymph nodes if my arm doesn't go up all way yet?

    Thanks for sharing here, I've picked up some good tips already and am looking forward to this final stage of treatment being done. What will normal look like after this? I can't even remember what normal used to look like anymore!

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