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  • igay1ord
    igay1ord Member Posts: 193
    edited May 2016

    Artista...my machine is quiet and the only noise is makes is a beeping noise when the radiation starts.

    Randi...that has to be a terrible feeling not trusting or having any confidence in your group! It's a bad enough experience as it is, let alone have these feelings! I love my RO and radiation techs. I can honestly say that through this whole process (from diagnosis to radiation) everyone has been wonderful and caring! It puts me at ease knowing they care and are trying to make this easier for me. Thank goodness my radiation is being done at the hospital here in town so I see the same RO each week. Love Dr. Rao!

    Today will be 19 of 30...so I can see the light at the end of the tunnel (and I'm hoping it's not the train)! So far my breast is wonderful! It's my underarm that's just a little red and irritated. Not sure why that far up, but I'll ask my RO when I see her on Monday.

    Have a great weekend everyone!

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited May 2016

    My machine is quiet too. I was wondering the same thing about why my under arm and arm pit are so discoloured. I didn't think the radiation went that far up. Oh well, I'm sure it will get better when all is said and done. Hugs to all!!!!

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2016

    I asked the technician at my first appointment yesterday when I might expect to see changes in my skin (she said around 2 wks, which will be the half way mark for me) and she mentioned that the armpit area, presumably where the lymph nodes were removed, was where I'd feel the most discomfort as opposed to the breast itself, although she did say it would also become tender/pink/red over time. She said the normal daily movement of my arm rubbing against the underarm area (as with walking, for example) would additionally aggravate that spot. I do remember that sensation in the days following my lumpectomy as I healed - I kept my arm out from my side for a day or two so it wouldn't rub back and forth as a walked.

  • august57
    august57 Member Posts: 12
    edited May 2016

    today I'm 12 of 21 tx's, and feeling fatigued late afternoon. Skin is pink, and my left breast is a "boob balloon" from a seroma and tender around the lumpectomy site but RO says stable and keep on truckin.

  • rrgoods
    rrgoods Member Posts: 24
    edited May 2016

    Hi. I am new here. Today will be RAD treatment #3 out of 20. I am aware fatigue may (probably will) kick in when I am half way through. My appt is everyday at 11am. My work hours are 8-5 everyday (no weekends). Do you think it may benefit that I try to change my treatment time to later in the day? Starting to get a littled pooped around 2:30 pm. Not bad, but I know it will get worse.

  • Sunnyone22
    Sunnyone22 Member Posts: 191
    edited May 2016

    Hi All. Random thoughts from someone exactly 2 weeks past rads:

    Number of treatments can vary for a number of reasons. Some rads are stronger dose. Some are smaller dose or different angle to protect underlying tissue (depending on where treatment area is located in breast). Some get "boosts" to the tumor bed area after whole breast rads are finished, some don't. Skin SE's are more frequently underarm due to arm rubbing against skin. My RO told me to put my hand on my hip and "walk with "attitude!!" .I had 28 whole breast rads (no boosts - they were delivered in one dose during surgery) with no skin SE's except dark tan rectangle. Fatigue during rads was present but not very bad. The week to 10 days after rad fatigue was definitely worse. Two of those days found me flat on the couch. Exercise, even if mild, does help mitigate fatigue. My RO sounds exactly as Grazy described - about 5 feet 6 inches, beautiful skin, East Indian descent. And she has the loveliest British accent. I am incredibly lucky to have had such a talented, smart and caring BC team - and all of them women!!.

    One last thought..................rads are very doable, even though inconvenient. For me, the worst part was being reminded every day of my BC. Now that I'm two weeks out, I'm not focusing on BC nearly as much. Tan rectangle is essentially gone and skin feels the same as the untreated breast. There IS a light at the end of the tunnel - it's SUNSHINE!!

    (((((Hugs))))) to all from Sunnyone

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2016

    Thanks for such a great overview of your experience, Sunnyone! For those of us just beginning treatment, it's great to hear about someone's really recent experience. I like the "put your hand on your hip and walk with attitude" advice too!!

    I'm going to be starting an exercise regimen very soon to help combat fatigue - it's a program through the university here that is specifically for those of us undergoing cancer treatments (the RO sends through a "prescription" and it's, therefore, free to anyone who wishes to participate), and it is designed with our specific needs in mind. The hospital is quite near the university so I'm thinking of heading to the gym right from my treatment before I can get home and make excuses not to go, which is something I'd do!!

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited May 2016

    They are long buzzer sounds when they are radiating with 2 small lights on me as well so they can see me- so not very relaxing.

  • Aliciavg
    Aliciavg Member Posts: 7
    edited May 2016

    During Chemo, it was suggested that I brush my teeth with Biotene , since Chemo can cause mouth sores and dry mouth. My last chemo was 2/29. Started radiation on 4/4 and will have last treatment today ( 25 total) YAY!!!

    On Monday, I switched back to Crest and over the last couple of days I have had sores in the corner of my lips and now I think I have sores in my throat. It hurts when I eat but not when I swallow. Is this a side effect of radiation or do you think it is from the toothpaste?

  • Randi1035
    Randi1035 Member Posts: 34
    edited May 2016

    immags I'm so red, up to my clavicle, under my arm is brownish and below my breast is purple. My nipple is blueish, my dermatitis is itchy, ugly, raised all over the upper inside breast after 18 treatments.

    16 more of 34 to go. I'm so grateful for weekends when I don't have to go.

    I spoke to ONE of the rotating never-ending stream of ROs (so much for continuity of care) Thursday who told me "The plan is perfect. It is always PERFECT. Radiation 'specialists' are reading your films every day, as the law requires." OH for PETE'S SAKE. Really?

    I told him, "This is a factory you have here. The techs are more concerned with 'running the train on-time than the patient. Many of us are scared. These are big noisy machines that are poisoning us. Would it kill you to explain what is going on before treatment, for instance, 'First we'll take an X-ray and then we'll adjust the table so you are aligned. Then we'll give you two treatments on either side of your breast?" He nodded and said, "Put cold cloths on your breast and use cortisone cream. You look fine for after 18 treatments. Actually a lot better than most." HELLS BELLS man.

    Then, he apparently told the techs that I complained ABOUT THEM. I was trying to get him to ALLOW the techs to take a tiny bit more time with patients and explain what is going to happen BEFORE it happens. What a douche.

    Honestly I don't know for sure if EVERY SINGLE person with Stage 1A breast cancer needs radiation, and why we all have such different treatment plans (20 RADS, 15, I got 34 and a boost at the end - "to treat the whole cavity," he said, when I made him go over my plan with me. I don't know...just can't wait until MAY 27 when I'M DONE with this place.

    Sorry for venting. Terrible care here in Flori-duh.

  • Katja23
    Katja23 Member Posts: 46
    edited May 2016

    I am three weeks out, so I thought I'd offer some encouragement. Fortunately, I never felt fatigued, and while I got a little red, I only started to feel it, as a little irritation, only the final week (of 6 1/2 weeks), and that's when I was having boosts, anyway. The redness was minor, so I didn't expect any peeling, but the skin peeled a little, under my arm around the SNB scar, only after radiation was over. When the peeling was done, the scar looked much better! As for my lumpectomy scar, it hasn't exactly peeled there, but that scar also has diminished and looks better.

    An there are plenty of others who have minimal side effects and thus don't bother to post to this forum.
    It's all chance. The chance/bad luck of getting breast cancer, and what kind, and then the chance/luck of how your skin holds up under radiation.

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2016

    Wow, Randi, that's disgraceful treatment you're getting - so sorry to hear that! Vent away!! I'm having the opposite experience that you're having, thankfully. I've only had two radiation treatments thus far, but both days the two technicians asked me as soon as I entered the room "Do you have any questions or concerns about anything at all?" and patiently stood and answered/explained, and then had me get up on the 'bed' when I was ready to roll. Day one included a "teaching" session where the lead technician went over absolutely everything (including the "why" of the regular x-rays!) and addressed any concerns (30 minutes was allotted for that, but we chatted for only 15). I assumed this was all the norm, but apparently not. My cancer center is amazing; everyone speaks in the calmest, kindest voices and not once have I ever felt rushed from registration to nurses to technicians to oncologists. I almost feel like I'm going to the spa when I enter the building. I'm sorry you're not having the same kind of experience :( Hoping May 27th comes quickly for you!!!

  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 2,753
    edited May 2016

    My RO is robotic with 0 personality. Luckily the techs and the RN are nice. They tell me step by step what to expect. Like every 5th zap they take xrays to make sure the positioning is still right on. Otherwise if the whole place was like that I may have looked for another place to go. Bedside manner is so important when you have something like cancer or other deadly diseases. This guy is more an engineer than a doc!

  • iammags
    iammags Member Posts: 216
    edited May 2016

    Wow, is right, Randi. That's horrible but somehow it doesn't surprise me. I've been noticing that customer service is getting worse and worse everywhere. Today I went out to get my kids a sandwich and the person making them was chewing gum and would barely even talk to me. No thank you, no nothing. I've been dealing with Sears appliance repair, which I can't even get into or I'll have to hit up my doc for some more meds. Sounds like your RO has a bit of the "I don't give a F$$%))%) blues". I'm truly sorry to hear it.

  • Lovinggrouches
    Lovinggrouches Member Posts: 530
    edited May 2016

    Randi, I hate that you've had such a horrible experience. My rad crew is absolutely wonderful! All the way from the receptionist who will chat with me when I wait, all the way to the nurse, the techs, and the RO himself. They are fantastic!!! I will actually miss them when I'm finished because they always make me feel comfortable and make me laugh! They feel like part of my family now!

  • igay1ord
    igay1ord Member Posts: 193
    edited May 2016

    Alicia...not sure why you would just now be getting the mouth sores. Mine stopped as soon as I had my last chemo. It wasn't so much as mouth sores as it was one or two of my taste buds would become severely irritated. I was telling another breast cancer patient about my itching all over problem. She said that was chemo...that chemo was the gift that keeps on giving!

    My breast still isn't red, seems quite normal. But boy my underarm is another story! It now's pretty dark red and burns constantly like I've got razor burn! My tech said she hated to tell me that it was only going to get worse! Oh well, only 11 more to go so I can probably stand it. So far, the fatigue has hit me, but I'm sure it will eventually...probably about the time I head to a family reunion on Memorial Day weekend!

    Have a great rest of the weekend!

  • Sunnyone22
    Sunnyone22 Member Posts: 191
    edited May 2016

    Randi - terrible that you are treated so poorly. You deserve better. And it's not like you can just pick up and go to another rad center down the road. Linear accelerators are very expensive and that equipment just isn't available everywhere. Seems like there isn't much accountability for how patients are treated there. I hope you can stick it out and then give the rad center your honest assessment of their services.

    For the record, my rad center also felt like a spa. Had the same team all the way through treatments and they were angels. .

  • JuniperCat
    JuniperCat Member Posts: 658
    edited May 2016

    sunnyone, what is a "Linear accelerator?"

  • Sunnyone22
    Sunnyone22 Member Posts: 191
    edited May 2016

    Linear accelerator is the machine that delivers many radiation treatments - the one that circles us as we lay on that very hard 'table'... It is the big "X Ray" machine that delivers high-energy X-Rays to breast tissue.(and sometimes other tissues and organs) to prevent local cancer recurrence. Even with so many medical advances, Linear accelerators (also referred to as LINAC) are still the most common way to deliver rads.

    https://stanfordhealthcare.org/medical-treatments/...



  • JuniperCat
    JuniperCat Member Posts: 658
    edited May 2016

    thanks, sunnyone. I guess they must have used that type of machine where I went

  • Deaconlady
    Deaconlady Member Posts: 158
    edited May 2016

    I start rads tomorrow. It's going to be a crazy week. Just finished weekly Taxol and Herceptin Thursday. I have an echocardiogram Wed, and my first Herceptin only Thursday morning. My MO is in another little town about 20 minutes from work. Then my rads are at 4:30, so at least I can leave work and not go back. At least the hospital is a little closer, but Thursday will be challenging.

  • gardengypsy
    gardengypsy Member Posts: 769
    edited May 2016

    I am three weeks out from chemo (AC+T) and will be having my expander removed (opting out of reconstruction). After a two week recovery, I will start the radiation. Feeling discouraged. I think people really don't get the toll it takes on us. Perhaps because it is such a common disease?

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2016

    Nothing I love more than people with a great sense of humor - a physician friend of mine emailed this morning to ask if I'm feeling "radioactive" yet (only she can get away with that kind of remark) and sent me this link to Imagine Dragons' video "Radioactive". At our cancer centre, patients who are finished with treatment whack a big gong in the lobby -- she said I should hit the gong as hard as the guy in this video hits the big drum. Was my laugh for the day. Radiation, "I'm ready to rock you!".



  • Deaconlady
    Deaconlady Member Posts: 158
    edited May 2016

    LOL Grazy, I love your friend's sense of humor! That's one of my favorite songs. I'm sure it will be in my head all day, since my first rads is this afternoon. They were playing rock music when I went for my simulations, wonder if I can request Radioactive???

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited May 2016

    hey everybody! I finished chemo on April 19, I am starting radiation on May 24. 25 treatments, whole breast plus lymph nodes

    I'm not going to lie I am really terrified. After finishing chemo I really feel like I'm getting my life back, I'm starting to get my energy back and exercise and have fun again. I hate thinking that this might be reversed by radiation.

    A lot of people say radiation is a walk in the park compared to chemo, it doesn't feel that way to me. I'm very scared of that skin damage. Because I still have my breasts, and they are large (f, there is a lot of room for skin to skin on me, and if I cannot wear a bra I'm not going to be going anywhere or doing anything.

    Any advice on how to deal with this, both emotionally and physically. Emotionally I just feel done with treatment, I hate that I need to do this other treatment, that seems so intrusive and like it might really impede on my lifestyle.

    Physically I just want to do everything I can to avoid skin damage.

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2016

    Hi Jill - I just returned from Rad #3 - I chatted with a woman (~my age) in the waiting area who had the same treatment plan as me - 16 treatments + 5 boosts. Granted, you're having a greater number of treatments than the two of us, but she said she only experienced a little redness and not much fatigue really at all - today was her final treatment and she looked so happy and peppy. It made me feel very encouraged. Neither one of us had chemo like you did, and that may make a difference as far as energy levels go during radiation, I don't know... My technicians also told me today they rarely see serious skin issues so that was also encouraging. It may well be that only those who are having difficulties post on the various forums here and that others who have no issues just don't come on to talk about it. I hope yours goes very smoothly and that you find radiation to be the easier treatment of the two.

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited May 2016

    Thsnk you Grazy!

  • Grazy
    Grazy Member Posts: 373
    edited May 2016

    Too bad we don't live a little closer to each other, we could have coffee and compare. Just think, you'll be all finished for summer!

  • ladsgma
    ladsgma Member Posts: 23
    edited May 2016

    Hi Jill:

    I am on my third week of rads and it's scary at first because you lay on a cold hard slab and the machines whir and spin around and it's like a sci fi movie. I always laugh when I think of that. I am having 33 sessions so it's going to take a while. As far as the skin getting red I was told that they can't predict whose skin will change which way even based on race or age, so it's hard to predict that. They gave me lotions to put on so we do that to keep the skin in good shape. It gets easier as you go along and know what to expect. As far as the bra goes I haven't worn a bra since my biopsy in January I use a well fitting camisole and loose button down shirts. Best of luck, you are not alone.

  • LovesToFly
    LovesToFly Member Posts: 1,133
    edited May 2016

    I am an F-cup. I cannot go braless. Even a light support cotton bra looks and feels awful. And I'm still working. I'll take time off of I must...but I really don't want to

    Grazy where are you??? I live in thornhill and work in Scarborough.

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