My (perhaps controversial) thoughts as a "newbie" to CA.

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  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    Hello?

    Oh, it's YOU, DisneyGirl! I was in the middle of dialing you! And you were in the middle of dialing ME! When I was dialing YOU! How funny is THAT?

    Hello?

    DisneyGirl?

    (I think she hung up....)

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    Hi gang....

    Oh boo hoo hoo...boo hoo..hoo...

    I'm soooooooo sad...

    I was working on the new glued boxes I made, putting the block toys in them, seeing how they fit.

    They looked so cute--the boxes I designed, cut, glued!

    Suddenly it happened:

    the box snapped apart.

    I thought it might have been because that toy was a little larger than the others--maybe because I'd painted one of the blocks a bit thickly...

    Still, it still shouldn't have broken open...

    I took the toys out of the others I'd done, holding my breath.

    A good little tug--not extreme--pulled them all apart.

    This happened at eight p.m.

    I know that going out at night by oneself is not always a good decision.

    But I do things like that.

    When I'm DRIVEN!

    Off I went, passing Camden Yards and the Orioles-Blue Jays game, all lit up like a Christmas tree..people by the hundreds in there, following their bliss..

    Me, I was running mine down.

    At the Home Depot I bought the item I'd researched way, way back when: the

    Loctite Plastic Bonding System.

    I'd passed on it as the JD Weld product had such great reviews and the package said....

    OK, this is where I goofed.

    The package said

    "Bonds MOST plastics."

    By now I know that these plastic sheets are made of a slightly different plastic besides PVC.

    PET.

    It's the PET that messes things up.

    The Loctite System "BONDS HARD TO BOND PLASTICS."

    OK!

    Sounds good!

    I bought four packages--they come in those little super glue-type tubes (the JD Weld is a big ole tube and cheaper by far....) ("Girlie," my father is saying, "you get what you pay for.")--along with a fine sanding block to roughen up the surface, as they recommend.

    Oh, package instructions are, besides being written in this tiny print ("Get the girl to read it for you," mom is telling me) so boring to read!

    (Yeah, boring until your boxes break apart. Then oh so interesting.. )

    I'm giving this project my best, most mature self. If Loctiite doesn't work my plan is to take the 3" boxes I already have and get some of that cellophane you use to wrap Easter baskets and sheath the block toy in that, maybe make an origami box (easy to fold) to sit them in.

    If they move around a little in the box, hey, they move around a little in the box--I'm not building a Lamborghini carburetor.

    That's what I'm gonna do.

    I will not spend $1,000 to have custom boxes made! I don't need 2,000 to 5,000! These won't fly off the shelves. Unlike a Lamborghini, my block toy won't have guys panting to own one. I think it'll draw people who have hand toy needs, grandmothers with antsy grandchildren every weekend, Asperger geniuses, art lovers, people who Google things like "avatars of the unconscious," compulsive shoppers, millennials with disposable funds conditioned to like small, compact, portable entertainments that draw their heads down in postures of thoughtfulness or sadness and that are ruining their upper spines.

    So, OK, about half of the US population.

    It's Loctite or 3" boxes.

    Time for a little Kahlua and cream.

    I feel good!

    I have a plan!

    (But boo-hoo-hoo.....boo-hoo-hoo...)

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited April 2016

    Trill, I hope round 2? 3? Works out for you. What an adventure!

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    Thanks Molly5...I've tried a few boxes with this new glue and so far so good...I'd cross my fingers but they're glued together in strange ways....

  • JBeans
    JBeans Member Posts: 388
    edited April 2016

    I'll echo that. Come on summer!

    I think I would soon end up doing what you did - even with pricy boobs in a box.

    A binder makes sense to me.

    I had a near "wardrobe malfunction" with my knocker yesterday:

    I took my class on an outdoor team building day. We had a great day of games, geocaching, and archery. The final event was a high ropes course. I told my students that if they would try it I would too. All was fine until I had to clamor up a series of tires. The knocker caught and all of a sudden I could see a splash of hot pink knocker rising out of the top of my shirt. Thank goodness I was high enough for nobody but me to see but I did have to figure out how to hold on with one hand in order to stuff it back in.


  • DisneyGirl16
    DisneyGirl16 Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2016

    Trill, Sorry I missed your call. LOL. And so sorry the JB Weld didn't work. Drat! I think the cellophane wrap sounds like a great idea but I understand that at this point you are on a mission to make the plastic work. I think the Loctite is going to work. I should probably ask my husband about this plastic gluing stuff since he has worked on cars and I'm sure he has come across this dilemma.

    JBeans, disaster averted! Whew! How old are your students?

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    Hi JBeans-- Oh, that's funny! I can see you up that tree now! What's geocaching? Isn't a cache something secreted, stored away? I like inventing wrong definitions of words new to me, so here goes. Hiding rocks under a rock? Hiding worlds inside a solar system?

    DisneyGirl, I'll try reaching you today at 4:51 and three seconds p.m. So don't be dialing me then, because I'll be dialing YOU then, OK?

    While I was researching glues last night I did come across a lot of reviews written by car people about fixing autos and auto-related items with glue. And those guys REALLY want things to stick forever...

    Thus far the Loctite is locking tight.

    (But at this point I'm not taking anything for granted...)

  • JuniperCat
    JuniperCat Member Posts: 658
    edited April 2016

    Trill1943, why on earth are you trying to glue all of these boxes together? I must have missed something...is this some sort of therapy

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    HI JuniperCat-- Hah! Yes, it's turning INTO therapy all right! An attempt to raise my anger bar!

    Seriously, these are boxes I'm making to house the little "hand toy" I've made composed of eight painted blocks that I tape together to make a tumbling block toy. I'm going to be putting them in a Johns Hopkins museum, a lovely gilded age home gifted to Hopkins called Evergreen. I gifted one to a friend when we got together back in March and she was so enthused about them that when we went to Evergreen, where she'd been curator of its Sheridan Libraries for nine years, the director loved it and invited me to put some in their gift shop (and a December exhibit of my 2800 painted block serpentine sidewalk!). They're 2 1/2" square and I want to package them in clear plastic boxes. Thing is, the clear box people don't make the size I want, and custom boxes are way out of reach--and I don't need 2,000 of them. I have the clear plastic cut out, just found it hard to find glue to bond plastic to plastic. At last I found the glue and am so excited!

    t

  • JuniperCat
    JuniperCat Member Posts: 658
    edited April 2016

    How wonderful!! Whew! I'm glad you found the proper glue. Are these toys similar to jacob's ladders?

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    Hi JuniperCat-- Sorta...they're eight blocks taped into a cube in such a way that they unfold in your hands. I think they're mysteriously fascinating...or is it fascinatingly mysterious? Well, BOTH.

  • JBeans
    JBeans Member Posts: 388
    edited April 2016

    noooooooooooooooo!

    I hope the Kahlua and cream tasted great.

  • JBeans
    JBeans Member Posts: 388
    edited April 2016

    Trill - hiding away rocks under rocks is a pretty good definition of geocaching. I like it but it is a little closer to seeking rocks hidden under rocks.It was a rather fun day.

    DisneyGirl16 - my students are 14,15, andd 16. They are a nice and often rather rowdy bunch. Being rowdy makes trips with them fun, a little hairy, and exhausting.

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    JBeans, the K and C tasted great...but that the glue worked made me want to drink it....that's how relieved I was..

    Yummy! Plastic Bonding System on the Rocks!

    I, um, don't think I understand geocaching any better now than before--but, hey, if it's fun, do it--whatever it is!

    Your group sounds fantastic! Young rowdy kids! Young rowdy HAIRY kids!


  • DisneyGirl16
    DisneyGirl16 Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2016

    Trill, so the Loctite worked? That's awesome!!!

    JBeans, your students sound great! I have learned to appreciate rowdy. I'm sure they make teaching interesting. :-)

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    DisneyGirl--Yes! The Loctite is holding!

    Tell me, how did you come by your user name?

  • DisneyGirl16
    DisneyGirl16 Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2016

    Pretty easily, actually. I have always loved anything and everything Disney. Neither my husband nor I had been to Disney as children, so we went on our honeymoon. We have been several times since then, after we had children and they were old enough to appreciate it. Hope to go back again someday. It's been far too long. The 16 is just a reference to this year.

    What about you?

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    Hi DisneyGirl16-- That's what I thought. I've never been to a Disney spot but loved the Mickey Mouse Show way, way back when Annette was the star. I can still hear the theme song.

    I'll probably have a difficult time getting it out of my head now....it's already elbowing aside John Legend's All of You...

    My name is Patricia but I soon, as you might expect, came to be called Trisha, or Trishie, later shortened to Trish. (In junior and high school I was called Pat--ugh--I hated it. I think a teacher did that.) One day my father started calling me Trill, or Trilly--I have no idea why. He had an almost debilitating stammer--on the order of The King's Speech's stammering King--and maybe Trill came easier to him than Trish. The 1943 is the year I was born.

    Names are interesting and I think nicknames are even more so. My father's was Frank and he was called Frank T (for his middle name, Truman) by his family, but, as a child, Ta-Tee. We called him Dadda. My parents shared a mutual nickname for each other--Lamb or Lambie. The "Lambie" was pronounced by my father when talking to my mother "Lambie" as in the animal lamb. But mom pronounced "Lambie" with a long a---as in la-la-la-la....

    Right now I'm about to place my order for stickers to go on the little boxes....can't believe how many hours this has taken, most just learning their graphics program....then more boxes get made...the Locktite is still holding...

    M- I - C- K- E- Y......la la...la...la......

  • DisneyGirl16
    DisneyGirl16 Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2016

    M-O-U-S-E!!!

    I hope you had a great weekend. My daughter came into town. It was great to do normal things and forget about cancer for a few days.

    Are the boxes still holding? And what do your stickers look like?


  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    Hi DisneyGirl--

    Am so happy to hear you had a great weekend with your daughter! That must have been wonderful!

    Glad to hear, too, that you forgot about cancer. I forget about cancer all the time...

    The boxes are moving along, and thanks for asking. Thankfully the Locktite is working. So far it's been holding, but it's a tricky process gluing things with it. The tiny flap that gets clued to the box to form the cube is about 2 inches by 1/2 inch and when I used their activator--made for tough-to-bond areas--it disappointingly left a cloudy area...the glue itself was nicely clear, but the damned activator ruined it. So I tried using just the glue and no activator and that was much better. I held my breath that it would still hold without the activator and it seems to be OK. it still requires skill in that it bonds the VERY INSTANT the two sides touch--no repositioning. I lost two great little boxes because I got the glueing off a bit and there was no going back....

    The stickers have as their background a shot of Amish quilting's Tumbling Blocks pattern. I tweaked the colors and then blurred the image and over this floated the word "cubism" and my name under it. I got a domain name and need to set up a simple website and I had a sheet of stickers with "trish rawlings.com" made. Will try to get a photo of the stickers and will attach it here when they arrive...

    OK, that's the latest. Happily not much drama, although it is fun writing about the drama!

    Forget about cancer! That's an order!

    Fondly, t

  • DisneyGirl16
    DisneyGirl16 Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2016

    Trill, forgot to say that I like the story behind your user name. What a nice homage to your father.

    Your stickers sound awesome! You are very creative. Definitely add a picture when you get them.

    I do have times where cancer is not in the forefront of my mind. I am in the middle of daily radiation treatments (Monday thru Friday) so I am reminded of it every day. Then I will get to take a pill every day for the next ??? years so I will have a constant reminder for a long time. However, I will continue to live my life in the most normal way possible. There are so many people who have much worse problems than I do.

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    Hi DisneyGirl--

    I'm sure you'll want to kiss the ground when you exit the place where you have your radiation done after that last "session"! It must be grueling. Necessary--doable--but grueling. My heart goes out to you and all those experiencing treatments that span the weeks.... I only did the surgery thing and dealing with yucky and pesky drains but then they were out and that was that. I hope that's ALL, of course, but who knows? Life has been, and always is, really, a day-to-day affair but even more so when you get diagnoses such as we've been handed.

    The latest on the boxes. I wish I could write that exciting things have transpired but it was just Pantaloon and I on the bed all night, lamp pulled up close, hair a mess, teeth unbrushed, disheveled--me, not her--she's always pristine and perfectly groomed--the bed strewn with plastic sheets, gluing supplies, used paper toweling, completed boxes. Every now and then I'd get up to go to the bathroom or get something to drink and when I returned the light raking across the bed would catch the dozens of little glittering pieces of trimmed-off plastic scattered over the spread. And they're all over the floor..

    I stayed up till eight this morning, just decided to dig in and do them and get it over with. Instead of cutting out six or so and then gluing (or trying to) that batch, I just went ahead and cut, creased, folded, fit together and glued in one go. By the time I'd done a dozen I could have done them with my eyes closed. Well, not really.

    The thing about stiff plastic is you only get one shot at creasing and folding. No do-overs. It's the same with the glue--one shot only. I locked myself into a trance of cutting and folding and gluing and just kept going. I'd toss the failures to the floor, just let them go, telling myself not to get sentimental over them. But it was hard to see them--cut just right but scored or folded a bit off.

    It's like when I made a quilt years ago---in, of all things, the Tumbling Blocks pattern--and was piecing the three parts that make up the three-dimensional-appearing blocks. I found that even a little bit of a goof at block one by the time I reached block ten was no longer "a bit." I'd have to go back and start over. Besides some nerve damage to my fingers from pushing through the needle I got a small quilt out of it.

    The reason I persisted was because the first little quilt I'd made I'd been admonished for by my aunts for machine-stitching the blocks and not doing them by hand, though I did hand quilt the whole thing when the piecing was done. So the second one had me pulling all-nighters to get the blocks right by their standards.

    That was a challenge but I don't think even that one was up to the challenge of these little plastic boxes. Boy! I almost quit after tossing yet another otherwise perfect box to the floor because I'd goofed in the scoring or the folding....

    It's Hump Day. Hope your rest-of-the-week goes smoothly. You're halfway there!

    t

  • DisneyGirl16
    DisneyGirl16 Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2016

    Oh my gosh! I can't believe you stayed up all night working on your boxes! I would have fallen asleep and awoke to find boxes glued to my forehead. How many boxes do you have to make?

    I have a couple of hand sewn quilts that my relatives made. I am in awe of the work it takes to make one. I don't think my eyes or fingers could take it.

    Hopefully, you got some sleep last night.


  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    Hi DisneyGirl--

    Ha-ha! Love that image: "boxes glued to my forehead!"

    And with this extremely tough glue they would have STAYED glued to your forehead!

    I finally got that sleep, plus a few more hours. After dinner I just zonked out last night with my clothes on this a.m. and woke up to three Spanish-speaking fellows here to install my cabinet doors in the kitchen and bathroom. That job was left un-done as the doors were on back-order and five floors of my building have lacked cabinet doors the past month during the renovation. I was bleary (I'd been dreaming about being back at home and hunting for a missing Pantaloon...) but VERY glad to have my clothes on because Maintenance let them in and here they just were---three husky fellows and the doors and all the accoutrements of their work, ready to get the job done....now I'm looking at lovely doors but also wood shavings all over. As we had no warning they would be here today--well, they couldn't warn us because they had no idea when the doors would finally be arriving--these guys had to empty all my drawers to get the drawer fronts on and my sink is now filled with timers, spatulas, potato masher, spoons of all sizes,etc.....

    I'm embarrassed to say that after all my do-do about box-making, I only came out with ten. But, hey, that "ten" was really twenty if you include the otherwise-perfect-but-slightly-off-at-the-end ones that ended up on the floor. I was gonna take six to the museum shop, with an extra to leave out as a sample (the boxes will be sealed with little adhesive disks and hopefully won't get opened by curious shoppers...), but four grouped with one on top looks neater. I just spoke to the gift shop gal and told her I'm still waiting for the stickers to arrive.

    But it was all worth it. The boxes look great, I have to say. The clear plastic lets the colors come through and the tautness of the box makes it feel custom-made. Which it was! I think--hope--the stickers look OK. Then the little gold elastic band will go around and that's it.

    I have to admit I'm gonna miss the project. I love working with my hands.... and it's been so rewarding: finally getting the right glue! I need to take a final photo of them before they go; if it turns out OK will attach a photo so you can see what all this nonsense has been about....

  • JBeans
    JBeans Member Posts: 388
    edited April 2016

    tee hee - I wouldn't always mind finding 3 husky fellows checking out my drawers but I can see how it would be disconcerting to wake up to it with no warning.

    Good luck with them at the museum shop.

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    JBeans, you get me laughing! Touche (spellcheck doesn't know from touche, do you spellcheck?)! And thanks for the well-wishing--t

  • DisneyGirl16
    DisneyGirl16 Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2016

    Trill,

    Well, the least they could have done would be to clean up after themselves. That would have been my dream guys. Ha!

    I'm glad you didn't need to make a whole lot more of the boxes, but now you are a pro. You never know, they may sell quickly and you may have to make more. How are you deciding which ones of your precious blocks to put in the gift shop?

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2016

    Hi DisneyGirl--

    Yes, I wish those cabinet installers had come with Dustbusters....I'm still finding shavings scattered about!

    Well, I did a "rough" selection of blocks initially and figured those would be my final choices in the end. But yesterday I went ahead and took out all the other blocks that I'd packed up during the renovation. I'd not seen the entire group laid out since I'd bought more groups of blanks and painted them. I also wanted to get a final count. The total came to 2797. That number doesn't include those I've sold, tentatively set for use in the Tumbling Blocks toy, or can remember giving away --which amount to about 350.

    Anyway, when I was laying those out on a long canvas strip (54" x9') I kept seeing nice ones and started setting those to the side. Now I'm looking at them and feeling thankful that I didn't tape that first group as these latest look even more interesting. It turns out that the special tape I use to tape them runs $4.95 per strip (was $3.39 back in the winter, now $4.95!!) so my price will have to come up from $50 per to $75. That should cover the tape, plastic, glue, and sticker....my profit margin won't be huge but I'm not doing this to make beaucoup bucks. I'm also gonna have a minimal website set up by the time I run these to the museum shop next week so will affix the sticker with the "trish rawlings.com" on it....

    Whew. It's been a long, winding, and sticky road..... Every time I walk into the living room and see those 2797 lying there I picture them on the black-painted floor up at Evergreen.....exciting...

    I don't know how the weather is where you are but here it's cold! What happened to spring? It's 52!!


  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited April 2016

    Watch out. If you need something to do with your hands I'll try to hook you on Millefiori quilting.

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  • JBeans
    JBeans Member Posts: 388
    edited April 2016

    I don't always but I usually do and I always should. My worst grade in elementary school was always in spelling. I rushed through it all just as I still sometimes do.

    Touché reminds me of something my husband says that he tells me was a go to response to just about anything in his house as he grew up. He, his parents, and his 5 siblings commonly responded to each other with the turn of phrase "Touché turtle".


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