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abigail48
abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
edited April 2016 in Alternative Medicine

re ty bollinger dr ty? I don't watch only because I find him not not credible but not easy to listen to. charlotte gerson says in her utube video that she gets terminal patients in her hospital mainly and if they have not had chemotherapy she has a 30% cure rate

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  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited April 2016

    I do almost all holistic and I only pay half a mind to his stuff--it seems a bit over-sensationalized and I don't like the fact that it will do much to turn public opinion against holistic b/c it gets hopes up too high and sounds too overwrought. I guess my main concern is that it makes it sound as if a cancer patient does just one of the tx he recommends, then their cancer will just magically melt away. I didn't watch all of the videos--maybe half of them--but I don't remember him saying much about emotional and spiritual healing, which is probably 90% of it. The fact is that holistic healing is a journey and it can take years to heal or one may heal but still carry the evidence (tumor) for the next 20 or more years--or in some rare cases it can just magically go away as quickly as overnight--I know someone that happened to--she had advanced stage IV. My cousin is still walking around with a 25 yo (at least) brain tumor--it was considered inoperable and he was sent home to die but he is alive and well and raising his young son--a boy with down's syndrome.

    Also, I probably missed the part where Ty surely says that holistic works in a different way from conventional. You don't just substitute herbal supplements for pills and IV vit C for chemo--the body must be brought into balance and attention must be paid to all other systems. I was shocked to realize that once my holistic MD had a look at my breast tumor he never looked at it again or even asked about it--instead he'd say that my liver is out of balance and I need to do more of those liver/gallbladder flushes that I'd been putting off. The main bulk of my tx was dental work and chelation therapy to get mercury and lead out of my body--I think that had at least a passing mention in the films. It's more than just diet/exercise and popping some extra supplements--you have to work on everything that's out of balance and for me, it turned out that my emotional problems that had been plaguing me all my life were crucial to work on and I feel so much better that I've even learned to be grateful for the BC. And in the last month I finally got around to starting that meditation practice that I'd been putting off b/c it is so hard for me! The tumor decreased by half shortly after I started it and then I went to a conference last week and discovered a new sensation--I was remembering people's names! I'm terrible at that and suddenly I felt like a politician lol. I don't know which I like better--the boost to brain power or the shrinkage of the tumor, but I'll take both thank you.

    Oh and back to Ty: he does some good as well so this is not all negative. He brings hope to people that there is another way and introduces you to folks who've done it. He brings your attn to some therapies that are not well known and cancer docs who are well known in the alt community but not to the public in general. He challenges the "everyone knows" pov that keeps everyone stuck in the idea that there is only one paradigm of healing. In fact there is only one but it's not what people think. Abigail, can you guess what it is? Anyone else? I'll check back.

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited April 2016

    One more thing--Ty has a website and I enjoy the articles more than the films.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited April 2016

    that's so often true. I love gary null's broadcasts but his prose is prettyunreadable. I'll check that out Piper

  • cb123
    cb123 Member Posts: 320
    edited April 2016

    Hello Ladies,

    I seem to have a problem with the labeling of what's alternative and what's not???

    I watched "The Truth About Cancer" videos and "liked" their facebook page for about 2 weeks. I always do my own research and try to back up claims that people are throwing around. I found too many of "The Truth About Cancer" claims to be gross exaggerations or unsubstantiated generalities. I "unliked" their page. I did not find the folks or the information at " The Truth About Cancer" to be either reliable or credible.

    I'm open. If anyone has an idea out there I'll be happy to research it to the best of my ability. If I find it may help my situation or someone else's, I'll happily pass it along or use it myself. For example I didn't even have to study the Vitamin D issue. I just know my body's low and it could be an issue. I take prescribed doses to alleviate the problem. Just one way to fight back.

    In my mind, I consider Targeted Genomic treatments to be an alternative to the traditional chemotherapy treatments. Only because you can often times have the treatment in pill form and rather than blindly attacking all your cells, cancerous or healthy, with toxic chemicals, you can target the cancer inside the cancerous cell, leaving the healthy cells alone.

    Molecular Superweapon

    The past few days I've been studying Cold Springs Harbor Labs. They are the cutting edge of this technology competing with drug companies in a race to this possible cure.

    CSHL

    siRNA vs shRNA

    While there's no denying that a healthy lifestyle filled with healthy foods is an alternative to cancer for most, there are still almost 10% of people with breast cancer who have it in their genes.

    I believe Hormonal Therapy is an alternative to chemo when available and that it shows almost identical lengthening of prognosis. Having both therapies often doubles a prognosis.

    I also believe Immunotherapy is another alternative to the more traditional chemotherapy. Because as the Duponts & Monsantos of the world produced genetically immune plants, nobody produced genetically immune humans. Thus the unhealthy diets that we've mostly all had. Although anti-Monsanto groups may put an end to the poisoning before the Immunotherapy is fully developed.

    These therapies aren't yoga, acupuncture or laetrile-like holistic or natural type therapies, I think they are viable alternatives to chemo and often surgery.

    Cancer is being attacked on many fronts. Some of these cures are natural, some are medicinal, some are human GMOs.

    When do they become standard and get booted out of this forum?

  • solfeo
    solfeo Member Posts: 838
    edited April 2016

    I tried to watch the video series but I lost interest half way through. It was too long. I'm sure it contained useful information, but my main complaint is similar to what is stated above: It was too much work to sort the good info from the bad because of exaggerated claims and overstated evidence. Ironic, given the title.

    I've been on their email list for quite some time and they also really abuse the privilege with promotional emails. They sent too many before the re-airing of the videos, but during it they were sending 4 or 5 emails per day. I unsubscribed.

  • Husband11
    Husband11 Member Posts: 2,264
    edited April 2016

    There are some good articles on his website, but like any source, you owe it to yourself to seek corroborating evidence. Do some Pubmed searches, Memorial Sloan Kettering's about herbs, National Cancer Institute, National Complementary Medicine database, etc. I like to evaluate based on risk and cost vs benefit. If there is little proven benefit, it had better not have any risk or high cost!

  • pipers_dream
    pipers_dream Member Posts: 618
    edited April 2016

    Yep Timothy I agree.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited April 2016

    Agree with everyone else basically, and Solfeo, I particularly dislike Bollinger's "LAST CHANCE TO WATCH FREE" schtick. I have been a cancer patient for almost 5 years now, and for as long as I can remember, "The Truth..." has been making the rounds of the interweb with "LAST CHANCE" announcements attached.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited April 2016

    & it's pretty easy to tell when an email is going to ask for money

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