IDC for the 3rd time

Hello everyone,

My mother was justdiagnosed with IDC for the 3rd time.

When she was first diagnosed with left breast cancer, she underwent lumpectomy followed by radiation. When she was diagnosed for the second time ( R+, PR+, HER2-) she underwent a mastectomy and had chemotherapy. Fast forward to 2016, her mammogram picked up on a mass. She had a biopsy which confirmed that it was IDC. Thankfully, the doctor says it's a new primary cancer. However, she just told me it is HER2+ which I'm told can be more aggressive. She will undergo both chemotherapy and radiation. Anyone else diagnosed for the 3rd time in the past or now?

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  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited April 2016

    If her PET scan was clear, she should not need a brain MRI unless she is having specific symptoms. She needs to know ER, PR, HER2 status. Depending how those home back, she will either need chemo and/or hormonal therapy. If she is ER+ and HER2-, she may have oncotype again to help determine need for chemo. Depending on tumor size and node status, she may need radiation. If she is ER+, she will also need a different hormone therapy. Most certainly, she may want a wide panel genetic test. Several genes such as CHEK2 are associated with bilateral breast cancer.

    Sorry she is dealing with this

  • forher23
    forher23 Member Posts: 18
    edited April 2016

    KBeee, thank you so much for your response. I'm looking into genetic testing right now.

  • BethL
    BethL Member Posts: 286
    edited April 2016

    I agree that she should have genetic testing if possible. It may not change her treatment but it could help you and any siblings . You can have genetic tests done even if she doesn't. Most insurance companies will cover some of it with a first relative history. I have had idc twice, age 38 and 48. First time I was tested for brca and was negative, this time was tested for a few others and came back positive for chek2. now my kids can be tested and start cancer screenings earlier.Your mother is lucky to have you!

  • forher23
    forher23 Member Posts: 18
    edited April 2016

    BethL,

    Great idea! Someone mentioned it a few years ago but I didn't give it much thought but I should definitely look into getting it done now.

    Just a little update, my mom is stage 2. 3 of her lymph nodes had cancer.She did have her er, pr, her2 testing but she doesn't remember what the doctor said (see why I'm worried? Haha...). My mom told me the doctor isn't going to give her ovary/bone test because her pet scan came clean. Should I keep pushing her to get it done or trust her PET scan?

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited April 2016

    PET scans are the most sensitive; even more so than bone scans.

    If you want a cheap option for other family members for genetic testing, look into a test from Color genomics. I had this done. It was $249 and I did not need a doctor's order, etc. I was pleased with the process.

  • forher23
    forher23 Member Posts: 18
    edited April 2016

    Kbeee,

    Thank you for the recommendation. That's a lot better than other places I've found. I need one to be as affordable and convenient as possible and that sounds like the best one so far. 

    Just an update, my mom says she's pretty sure the doctor told her she's ER +, PR - on her right breast (thanks mom...) I'm not sure how this is possible as she was ER+ , PR+ on her left breast before. Does that mean it's more aggressive? 

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited April 2016

    Mine was ER+, PR+ the first time. The second time, both of my tumors that came back (on the same breast) were ER+, PR-. I had one doctor tell me that the PR did not matter at all, but another told me that it was indicitive of a more aggressive tumor. My oncotype went from 16 the first time to 40 the second time. I did hours and hours (and days and days) of research on PR loss in recurrent tumors. There is not much info on it, but the few studies I did find also indicated that it represented a more aggressive tumor, but one that responds well to chemo.

  • forher23
    forher23 Member Posts: 18
    edited April 2016

    Hello Kbeee,

    I just found out my mom is er+, pr-, her2+++. She will be on Perjeta. but after doing some research, I found that perjeta is for people with metastatic BC or for neoadjuvent treatment so I am a little confused. I will be posting a new thread but I guess I'm just so upset. It's hard to watch someone you love go through this and not know all the details.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited April 2016

    Perjeta used to be just for metastatic cancer. It has been used the last 2 years in the treatment of Stages i-iii as well... with great succuess. It sounds like the MO is up to date on the latest treatments, and is treating it aggressivrely.

  • forher23
    forher23 Member Posts: 18
    edited April 2016

    Hi Kbeee, just when I was feeling much more comfortable about it, my mom told me she is receiving Herceptin instead.. Not having a definite answer is driving me crazy but I'm trying to be patient.

  • KBeee
    KBeee Member Posts: 5,109
    edited April 2016

    Perjeta is not instead of Herceptin, but in addition to. If she is early stage, sometimes insurance will not allow it.... It varies from plan to plan which rots. Either way, Herceptin is the most important. Is she getting chemo with it for the first few treatments? That usually is done, but MOs take a lot of things into consideration when developing a plan. They have to balance the risks and benefits

  • forher23
    forher23 Member Posts: 18
    edited April 2016

    hi Kbeee,

    The doctor got rid of Perjeta from her adjacent therapy plan. I'm not sure why but I think it has something to do with it not being approved as a adjuvant therapy yet. Or Maybe her insurance had something to do with it... I'm not sure. Yes, she is also doing chemo: monotaxol and carboplatin. She's having a hard time with the treatment? She says she feels a lot worse than last time. Hoping it gets better..

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