Winter 2015-16 RADS
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hi Sheri
My doc said the same as edwsmom. I was able to work through rads 28 zaps for me. Be active for 30 min a day if you can.
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I've worked through rads so far but did take 2 days off where I'd have to work until 8 pm and my rads were at 8:30 am - just too long of a day. I'm normally in bed by then!! I had a couple of episodes where I was absolutely drunk with fatigue, but I have Fibromyalgia as well, so that's not helping. Keeping busy during the day is what I want to do. If I was sitting at home I'd probably get depressed. I like working.
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Hi Sheri! I worked full-time through my 33 treatments and also through my chemo treatments. I only took the day of infusion off of work, as I was at the Cancer Center for so many hours. I really do feel that it helped me, by staying active. Good luck to you!
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I did notice that the two days I took off were both days I had to stay at the centre for longer as they were review days. Maybe it was the waiting that slowed down my adrenaline and I tuckered out before getting to work.
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I'm on 14 of 33 and I have worked full time since my diagnosis
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Don't know where to post this:
I am starting RADS on 5/9/16 got 7 weeks ( 35 treatments)
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I was not able to work through rads. On top of chemobrain, I was too fatigued
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Peabrain: you wrote: "Has anyone had any tendonitis, either from rads or chemo?
I've never had it before, but it flared up just after rads and now I can barely use my left wrist and it won't heal.
The MO and RO both say it has nothing to do with their treatments, but good luck. Thanks, guys!"
OMFG, I have the EXACT same thing going on, to the letter! How insane is that?! I've looked up my symptoms, and it sounds like something called De Quervain syndrome. The pain's so bad sometimes that it takes my breath away. Also, when I wake up, whether it's from a night's sleep or from a nap, I find that my fingers are clenched like claws, my fingertips are numb, and the first joint of each finger (closest to the nail) feels like someone's taken a hammer to it. The throbbing pain is unreal. It's hours before I can use my hands normally each day. This is absofriggin'lutely unacceptable! Yet my onco team essentially said that there's nothing they can do. GREAT. I NEED the use of my hands for the (sporadic) work that I can still do from home!
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all: I wasn't able to work through chemo *or* rads. The treatments exacerbated the already-crushing fatigue and relentless full-body joint and connective tissue pain that I experience from Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, to the point that I basically slept through the last 9 months. I actually had to resign my position at the local casino where I worked in customer service, because I can't be on my feet for any length of time, anymore (the job required being able to stand 100% of the time). Being a tribal entity on tribal land, the casino's exempt from state labor laws and isn't required to make any concessions/accommodations for any employee.
I feel like I'm 48 going on 80–and now, I'm jobless to boot. Just fabulous.
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I had DeQuervain syndrome when my son was an infant. I went to a hand specialist and they gave me injections into my hands and it went away immediately - never has come back. Definitely go and have it looked at. There's definitely treatment for De Quervain's....
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A question for those of you who recently finished rads:
Today (in less than 3 hours) I have my FINAL rad treatment (#28 of 28) yet I find myself oddly conflicted. Part of me is so excited about letting out a big WOOHOO as I walk out of that rad center but part of me is feeling a bit apprehensive about life going forward. I don't think I've really embraced the concept of wondering, for years to come, if my BC will return. (Having ILC which is harder to find in imaging AND self-exam is also a bit daunting.) And although I'll be seeing my BS, my MO or my RO every three months for the next few years, I feel like I'm leaving a cocoon of caring and being released out into the not-so-caring world. For months, I couldn't wait for today, the day I go back to my 'normal' life but something tells me I'm entering a new normal.
Did any of you have mixed feelings the last day of rads? (I feel like I should be doing cartwheels today but part of me is a scared......)
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Sunnyone
My last day I felt sad. I will miss my rads apts because of the people I met there. My hubby came with me on the last day and i did tear up walking out. It was surreal. Def mixed feelings.
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Hi, Sunnyone. Congratulations on finishing! I finished rads about 3 weeks ago and I just felt relief that it was over on my last day (I was peeling pretty badly). The now what? feeling is just hitting me now. I think it's normal to feel this way after months and months of having a team of people telling us what we need to do to beat this. Suddenly we aren't checking in with someone every couple of weeks.
I also had ILC. A standard mammogram did not see my tumor but the MRI totally lit up. My MO is having me do both mammograms and MRIs yearly, alternating every 6 months. Have your doctors given you that option?
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Sunnyone...I kind of had that same feeling. So glad that I was finishing up treatments, but wondering about what was in store for me. The last day of rads (there was no certificate or no bell to ring) and the tech said to me "go out and live your life now". I wasn't sure what to do with myself! I think you nailed it when you said that you felt like you were leaving a cocoon of caring.
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I am down to 2 more zaps!!! I see different techs every time so I haven't bonded with any of them but I will ring that bell so you can hear it in Florida!!!! (I'm in Canada). I was surprised that my MO didn't want to see me for three months after sending me to the RO! He put me on Arimidex with horrid reactions so my DH demanded we see him Monday. I need other options. Between headaches, bladder infections and debilitating nausea I need help. Now I won't see my RO for 3 months (saw him yesterday) but that makes sense. Not seeing my MO when I'm newly stage IV is daunting....
I get tomorrow off rads as the machine is being serviced. So I don't finished Monday - Easter Friday threw off the weeks, but I finish Tuesday. Will I be sad? No, just need some healing time. I'll be on "something" for the rest of my life as per my MO. I've been driving 225 kms a DAY (about 140 miles) for treatment then work, so I'll be glad when it's done.
Congrats Sunnyone! Tell us how you felt.
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Sunnyone, WooHoo!!! Congrats on being done!! Have an extra glass of the bubbly!
Peabrain, I had terrible shoulder symptoms with rads, and I bet the wrist tendinitis is from rads too. My RO said my symptoms were not from the rads, but my PT said it could be possible to explain our symptoms if certain nerves are being affected by the radiation. Some of the nerves run the length of the arm and could cause many symptoms. I was feeling pain clear down to the elbow. My issues have almost completely resolved 2.5 weeks after boosts and 3.5 weeks after whole-breast. I hope yours gets better soon!
Barbe, next Tuesday is so close! I'll be counting down with you!
Adarkadaptedi, it is terrible that you lost your job. I appreciate that Native Americans suffered abuse years ago,but to exempt them from basic human rights type laws seems a little bass-ackwards. We almost looked at having a pre-fab home done by a business on a reservation, then discovered we would have no recourse if they took our money and gave us nothing.
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I had a thought today about why some of us burn so bad - happening to me now. I have to have a bolus put on (a thin sheet of silicone) that draws the rays towards the skin rather than deeper, hoping to keep them away from my heart and lung. Are those of us who are "burnt" the ones who had a bolus?The blotch in the middle sort of is where my lumpectomy wound hadn't healed yet when rads started. The surgery was in January! The surgeon said it was full of cancer and wouldn't heal.
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I got a bit burnt and did not have a bolus. I had 18 treatments, 2 being boosts. The skin effects started the third week and peaked right around when I was finishing. I am only 1 week out and my skin is healing quickly. It was VERY ITCHY for a while, but even that is fading. I had mixed feelings that last day and then I was over it. Maybe because I knew I had to go back in 1 week to check my skin.... But I am totally over it now. Ready to put this whole cancer thing in the past and live my life.
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Kkubsky, as soon as I got itchy I got a cortisone cream. I figured scratching would cause blisters. Congrats on being done!! They told me I'd get worse for the two weeks after and then about a month to heal. I have had 23 out of 25 treatments so far. My back isn't any where near as bad as my front.
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I did not have a bolus and I started to get red the first week. I am 10 days from my last whole breast rads and my MO asked to look today--he was surprised at how much I burned. And I thought I had done really well till the end. :-/ I mean the RO kept saying they have seen worse.
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Thanks to all who responded to my question about finishing rads today and thanks for all the good rad-finishing wishes!
For those of you who didn't hear me when I walked out of the rad center at noon..............WOO HOO!!! (I really did yell that - right outside the door!). My rad center didn't have any bell-ringing or certificates so I had to mark the milestone in the only way I knew how.
Just for the record, the apprehension I felt before going in for my last rad disappeared by the time I crossed the parking lot to my car. I am just so danged happy not to make that trip any more. But I also think it's because daily, we're reminded of our BC whenever we go in for another treatment. I'll be happy not to think about it so much.
Because I had my boosts during surgery, I only needed the whole breast rads, 28 of 'em. I have a very dark, evenly colored tan rectangle on my chest but no open spots, no rubbed spots, no itching, no burning, nothing. I've been religious about applying Miaderm several times during the day and Aquaphur at night. (Even silvadene for one weekend but RO said I didn't really need it). So far, so good. I'm unsure how much worse the skin will get now that my treatments are finished, but I'll let you know.
Again, thanks to all for the good wishes. Here's my final, now-empty champagne flute. (28 gumballs in 4 champagne flutes - GONE! 4 splits of champagne, one after every 7 treatments - GONE!)
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Congrats Sunnyone! Great visual...thanks for sharing.
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Congrats, Sunnyone!!! I remember when you started your rads. The time seemed to go by quickly (not for you, I'm sure). I hope that I look back at my own treatment and feel like it went by quicker than what it really seems. I don't think the place I go to does anything for completing rads. My son wasn't happy about that. He said he would get me a big bullhorn to blow as I walk out the door. Love him!
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I find that the time has gone really fast. I can't believe I've done 23 treatments!!! If I had to guess quickly, it feels like about 10 times. It's become a blur, thank goodness! None for me today as the machine is getting serviced....just 2 more to go!
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WooHoo, Sunnyone! Isn't it such a great relief to make that daily time your own again? I got a certificate and my lovely marker.
Now I'm in limbo because my MO is sending me for a second opinion about chemo. She does not want to do it, but I still do. I will be going to UC San Francisco for the opinion. In the meantime I am going to enjoy the treatment-free days.
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Moondust......why are you insisting on chemo? When you get an onco score it is based on you doing Tamoxifen for 5-10 years. Are you going to take the Tamoxifen?
I didn't get anything the first time, so when I recurred 7 years later, I'm put on hormonals (AIs) to start as they can arrest progression!! Easy, peasy. Even the surgeon the first time said to "keep the big guns until next time". Well, I don't have to use big guns right now either until if/when Arimidex stops working and I get some sort of progression and then I would go on an IV chemo.
If I had taken chemo the first time, I would have to start on an IV chemo this time. This way I take a pill everyday instead of risking damage to my heart, lung and other organs with a harsher chemo. We don't die of breast cancer, we die of the treatment! I didn't even want to get rads this time (didn't the first time either) as it's directly over my heart and lung.
Not questioning your decision, just curious.....
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Barbe, I will be starting my AI today. I will take AI instead of Tamoxifen because I am past menopause. AI is actually more effective than tamoxifen. According to the Onco test, my risk of recurrence is 17% with tamoxifen and 14% with AI. I am very surprised that you were not put on tamoxifen with your first Dx! Maybe because they would have had to do ovarian suppression for you back then??
The reason I want chemo is because I do not believe my tumor biology will completely respond to the AI, which blocks the production of estrogen. I have 80% ER+ and 40% PR+. And a high Ki67% too. Compared to women who have 95% ER+ and PR+, it is much more likely that some of my tumor cells will not be controlled by the AI.
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I'd already had a hysterectomy so ovary suppression wasn't needed. My surgeon went for a triple bypass emergency surgery and I didn't even see an onc for 9 months after surgery (they admit I fell in a crack). Too late to start anything at that point so I just crossed my fingers for the past 7 years. I knew my ER+ tumour was slow growing so didn't feel I needed anything for the first 5 years. I actually saw my onc more often AFTER the 5 year mark. I moved to another area of the Province and saw an onc last May who missed the new growth on the CT I had last May. I didn't know that until the CT this year said "compared to last CT". I was FURIOUS!! She only talked about her imminent retirement and didn't lay a hand on me. The tumour grew up between ribs so couldn't be felt at that point but she could have at least look at the bloody CT results!
Good luck on your second opinion and I hope you get a solid decision.
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Barbe, you really received substandard care for your first Dx!! That upsets me! And for your CT scan, wouldn't a radiologist read it and give the report to the onc? One or the other doc missed it, that's for sure! Hopefully now that you are on the AI, your bone met will be stable.
I do not trust my MO's opinion that chemo will not benefit me. She seems to be behind the times, especially for one so young. There are no health reasons I shouldn't have chemo, and it WILL reduce my recurrence risk. We have to be our own advocates these days.
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The radiologist DID report the findings, it's the new onc that didn't follow through! I left that cancer centre and went to a new one which I'm very happy with. I am very pissed that my PCP didn't read his copy and my DH actually made an appointment and tore up the PCP for not following up with me. The PCP wanted to see me but my DH said "Oh, I don't think you want to see her right now..." hehehe
I don't have mets. I have a regional recurrence. Arimidex has some side-effects I'm struggling with but it's like magic dust with how it cleans up so many mets in other people that I'm terrified now not to be on it. I've read of liver, lung and brain mets all disappearing with Arimidex. I'm praying my nodes will clear up but won't know for months until my next scans. So you see, I get why you want something systematic but at least you're getting the AI. I'm trying to avoid chemo for as long as possible so I can use it as Plan B.
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