So scared... Need to hear some positive stories!

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Nina27
Nina27 Member Posts: 77

Hello,

I received my PET results and looks like my opposite side underarm glands might be affect. I have to go for a fine needle aspiration on Tuesday and I'm so scared cancer has spread to a distant point making me stage 4...

I am in tears whenever I'm alone and when I think of my boys I almost break down. Please please tell me your survivor stories of cases similar to mine...


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  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited March 2016

    I would recommend you get some anti anxiety drugs to help you through this time. The good thing is it has been found. Herceptin and chemo will knock it out. I am sure you will find wonderful support on this site. There are many treatments available.

  • Hopeful82014
    Hopeful82014 Member Posts: 3,480
    edited March 2016

    Hi - I'm so very sorry you're dealing with this. Mine had not spread to the opposite nodes but was in the nodes on the same time when it was found and I will never forget how it felt to learn that. I'm sure you're even more shocked and scared than I was.

    As Meow has pointed out, above, Herceptin in addition to other treatments, will most likely have a powerful effect on your cancer. I know things look grim now but try not to get too far ahead of yourself with worry. (I know - that's much easier said than done.) If at all possible, ask your doctor for some anti-anxiety drugs to help get you through this. If ever there is a time for such drugs, it is going through these first steps of finding out just what you are dealing with.

    Sending supportive thought to you.

  • funthing42
    funthing42 Member Posts: 418
    edited March 2016

    Hi

    I'm running all over the place posting. Well I don't know about staging. Try to talk to your doctors they definitely have more info in regards to path report.

    Read some of my frantic post. Meds do not help for me anxiety. Maybe a elephant tranquilizer willl take me down. Only work helps me.

    I've had recurrence x4. Now in my nodes on the left. Every year boom.

    Hang in there.

    Read survivor stories and on any of the forums. Everyone here or there no matter which one you post on is going through it in so many different degrees and ways. We all share common a goal be free of this dreaded fing disease.

    Sorry about the run on sentences.

  • cajunqueen15
    cajunqueen15 Member Posts: 794
    edited March 2016

    hi hon, that would be very unusual. Distant spread usually starts in the sentinel then axiliary nodes - same side, then bones, lungs, liver, etc. I have never heard of it jumping to the other side. Could you have another primary tumor on the other side? I know that sounds awful, but does NOT mean stage 4. Having young kids...it's so awful. It's so frightening. But it's not a death sentence. Feel free to PM me.


  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited March 2016

    I had DCIS on the left and DCIS + IDC, with a positive sentinel node, on the right. This was not metastatic, but a different primary cancer. It put me at stage II, not IV.

  • Maya15
    Maya15 Member Posts: 323
    edited March 2016

    Hi Nlunn,

    So sorry you are going through this. I've been there too and it's terrifying. But if they're biopsying your lymph nodes on the opposite side, it does NOT mean it's stage 4 if they are positive. It might mean you have cancer on the other side too, and having positive lymph nodes might alter their recommendation for what surgery to have and which chemo drugs to give you. My scans showed enlarged lymph nodes on both sides. I had 3 fine needle aspirations of lymph nodes. They were positive on the side of the cancer and negative on the other side. My PET scan additionally showed probable cancer in the chest muscle lymph nodes, but that still makes it stage 3, not 4. The good thing with FNA biopsies is the pathologist was in the room while they did it and I got the results right away. I would recommend taking someone with you.

    What did your PET results say? Did they scan your whole body? If they didn't find anything in your brain, liver, lungs, or bones, (or somewhere else beyond the breast and surrounding lymph nodes), then you don't have distant metastasis (stage 4). Cancer in lymph nodes is common and considered "regional metastasis". Can be stage 2 or 3 depending on the extent. It's curable with some combo of chemo/surgery/radiation. Chemo also takes care of any small cancer cells that may have made it into your blood stream and be lurking somewhere else.

    I hope you get some relief tomorrow. For me the terror died down a lot once they stopped doing those horrible scans and I started on the chemo. Feel free to message me any time, I am a couple of months ahead of you in this terrible process with a similar type of cancer


  • Owens69
    Owens69 Member Posts: 66
    edited March 2016

    I would really like to read some survivor stories. Need to hear some encouragement... Is there a thread specifically for this? I'm new to the site.

  • Nina27
    Nina27 Member Posts: 77
    edited March 2016

    thank you all so much for your kind words.

    The PET scan revealed "hot spots" under both my arms although the "cancer lump" is in my left breast. No organ or bone mets detected. According to my MO and Internet research if the lymph gland under my arm on the opposite side of the effected boob is malignant it would put me at stage IV however she did say that it can be contained.

    I went for a fine needle aspiration, mammogram and ultrasound today. Mammogram picked up nothing but dense tissue, ultrasound found another area of concern in the same breast with the original lump except this time on the top... Absolutely nothing in my right boob.The fine needle aspiration was a little sore but I just want the results now so I can start chemo. I feel like the cancer is moving faster than my doctors even though I know they are all doing an amazing job.

  • kareenie
    kareenie Member Posts: 339
    edited March 2016

    Owens69 here is a section with survivor stories:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/23/topics...

    Myself am a 21 year survivor even though some bumps along the road I am still here.

  • Metta
    Metta Member Posts: 84
    edited March 2016

    Hugs to you. I would be terrified, too, but even if the worst happens, you are so very lucky that Herceptin and Perjeta will work on you. My MO has treated many, many women with stage IV cancer all over their bodies, and he has seen Herceptin clear it up entirely. Forever. Cured. He insists that he's seen it happen many times.

    I wanted to start chemo immediately, too, but it was delayed due to multiple biopsies. The docs said waiting a few weeks wouldn't matter. Although a study has shown that waiting two months to start Herceptin is not good. But weeks? You'll be okay.

    Snuggle your boys and just take it day by day. That's what my friend with stage IV says: When she feels overwhelmed, she says to herself, I'm just going to do the laundry, go to the park, and do the day. Do the day. (And yes, tell your doctor you need Ativan or some kind of anti-anxiety medication. The first weeks after diagnosis are the most stressful. It gets better.) Be good to yourself today.


  • Kicks
    Kicks Member Posts: 4,131
    edited March 2016

    PET Scans can (and will) 'light up' on areas of 'inflammation' which may or may not have anything to do with a cancer. My PET 'lit up' on an area along my lower jaw which got me sent to an ENT that afternoon for a biopsy. Dr called me the next morning at 10 with the path. report - nothing there. That was 6 1/2 yrs ago - still no problem there.

    Nodes can be enlarged for many reasons - infection/inflammation even in distant areas.


  • MrsW
    MrsW Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2016

    I know the feeling. I just broke the news to my 10 year old that I have BC. I had been feeling great and really positive but then today when the dr was putting the clip in it wouldn't go. After two attempts it finally went in. I am having neoaduvent treatment due to the size of the tumor. I was convinced something else was wrong. This anxious feeling is horribl

  • Dallas7
    Dallas7 Member Posts: 2
    edited March 2016

    I know from first hand experience that walking the BC walk is not easy. To give you a brief history, I had BC in 2014 2- lumpectomies on right breast followed by chemo and radition. I was also a wreck cyring at home for a couple of weeks. What seemed to help me during this time was my focus on prayer, getting involved with a strong support group that I enjoyed, and completing chemo and radition. Cry and then pick yourself up and be there for your boys.


    I know it is not a door that you would have selected on your own to walk through but walk and go through you must take the time to take care of yourself during this period and one day when you are walking on the other side you will thank your Maker.


    Dallas7


  • okay1
    okay1 Member Posts: 3
    edited March 2016

    Just found you guys. I'm scared and unhappy. I keep thinking, of all the problems now this! So, I just decided to look for women like me and to get positive from their stories and support. I don't know if changing my diet will do any good because I'm already a vegetarian nearly 20 years. I stopped sugar 4 years ago but I really wonder if there's a link between Truvia and breast cancer or Truvia, soy food and breast cancer. I have to say, its been weighing on my mind. Plus I have CREST. Whoopie. Someone told me to watch funny films and read funny stories. I was diagnosed in Feb, seen JohnsHopkins/Columbia Presbyterian doctors for second opinion. One was a medical oncologist who explained to me the difference between an actual medical oncologist and a breast surgeon in oncology. Really opened my eyes! Waiting for surgery. I'm 64 and this is no where in my family! That's whats so upsetting and scary. Did Genetic Testing this past week, waiting for the results. They already know I'm TNBC. Why am I so scared? Why do I break into wailing (smile), its true. I already know why. I'm am so very happy to have found this board. I felt so alone. Then after I Googled TNBC and read all the dire and disheartening reports, I thought I'd keel over. Warning, if you've not read them, DON'T! They are QN (quadruple negative). Guys I am so happy to find you all here. Thank you for the encouragement. I'll be here, most likely, every day! I'm going back and start at the first topic and work my way through!

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited March 2016

    okay1, welcome to Breastcancer.org!

    We're so happy you found us, too! We know you'll find great support and information here.

    You may want to check out our Triple-Negative Breast Cancer forum to chat with many, many other members who can inspire you.

    Also, the main Breastcancer.org site has extensive information on this diagnosis, which can help: Triple-Negative Breast Cancer

    For more inspiration, check out the Breastcancer.org blog post, You CAN Survive Triple-Negative Breast Cancer as well as the Podcast Hope After a Triple-Negative Breast Cancer Diagnosis.

    We hope this helps! Please continue to post, ask questions, and get support here. We're all here for you!

    --The Mods


  • Meow13
    Meow13 Member Posts: 4,859
    edited March 2016

    okay1, glad you found us but sorry about the cancer. Believe me you did not do anything to cause your cancer. I had super healthy lifestyle before I got my cancer.

    The first thing I ask the doctors was what did I do they all said nothing. All the crud about living well is well and good but cancer loves healthy bodies too.

  • okay1
    okay1 Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2016

    Okay, here's the latest and I really need advising. TNBC and they want to start me out on Tues with a catheter in my chest wall. The TNBC went from 1.5-2cm on 3/17 to 7cm 4/5. I was adamant about getting the mastectomy right away and was scheduled for 4/12. Saw Medical Oncologist today (thursday) and they want to take me through 12 weeks of chemo. I feel like i'm being used as a lab monkey and this will take me well past the 90 'safe' period. Each time I talk to these people they bring me back to the same place! Now i feel so trapped. I'm now too afraid not to follow their plans. I want to scream. I did. I can't even force them to do the double mastectomy! I feel boxed in. Helpless. my doctor said this is what she would do if it were her. But this is me. What the heck is happening? I can't even advocate for myself and get the response I've demanded. I was told they would do the double mastectomy on tues, now I'm told the safest and best chance I have is to shrink the tumor first and then have the surgery. 12 MORE WEEKS??? How much danger am I in? well I think I'm close to doomed. I don't know what to do or who to believe or how to get a straight answer. The answer was, if we don't get it all out then you have to wait until we can start the chemo and the cancer can spread through your body. Its so aggressive we want to chemo first. But I'm not even a candidate for radiation because of scleroderma. Somebody please help me, I'm all I got to advocate with and I don't believe I'm being listened to. And if I say No and get denied any treatment or involvement...Is 'What if we don't get all the tumor out? And "I didn't cancel your first surgery date' as a way of telling me this is my fault because I wanted a second opinion first? Twenty days of delay is a problem but now they want to delay 12 more weeks. What am I not understanding? I want to live past this. What am I not getting through to my thick skull? Why do I feel its for the doctor's convenience to shrink the tumor and not to save my life? What is wrong with me?????

  • BarredOwl
    BarredOwl Member Posts: 2,433
    edited April 2016

    okay1:

    This is a very stressful time. As Hydranne noted, "neoadjuvant chemotherapy" given prior to surgery is very common with triple-negative disease, particularly with large tumors such as yours (now estimated to be 7 cms). A major advantage is that it can provide information about "pathological response", meaning they can monitor during treatment and at later surgical removal, if the tumor responds / responded to the chemotherapy regimen (shrinks or disappears completely (i.e., "pathological complete response")). This is valuable information. If the response is not adequate, this information allows a switch to a different regimen.

    In contrast, if you had surgery first to remove the local disease, and received chemotherapy post-surgery to address the possibility of distant spread, you would just have to assume the chemotherapy was working. With "triple-negative" disease, you do not have the option of endocrine therapy, so there is more of a premium on chemotherapy efficacy.

    If you receive neoadjuvant treatment, lumpectomy may be an option. However, you can still elect mastectomy at that time, if that is your preference. It is important to understand that radiation is sometimes needed even with mastectomy. However, perhaps by having neoadjuvant treatment followed by mastectomy, you can increase the chances that no radiation will be needed. Please ask your team for case-specific advice on this question.

    Please note that the findings of the recent "90 days" study do not apply to the neoadjuvant setting, as the study did not include any patients receiving neoadjuvant chemotherapy. The patients included received no treatment at all while they awaited surgery.

    http://oncology.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?artic...

    "Patients receiving neoadjuvant chemotherapy were excluded. . ."

    There is a "Triple-Negative Breast Cancer" forum here where you can post and learn more:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/72

    You may introduce yourself in the "Calling all TNs" thread here:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/72/topics...

    You can see from the profiles that many received neoadjuvant treatment prior to surgery.

    Sending good thoughts your way.

    BarredOwl

  • placid44
    placid44 Member Posts: 497
    edited April 2016

    okay1- To be blunt about it, it's surgery first that would be the real "delay." What can kill you is the circulating cancer cells in your body, if they are given time to take hold. The chemo is intended to start getting at those asap. At the same time, it's working on the tumor itself. It's not just about shrinking it to make surgery easier/better, it's about making it less lethal. If the chemo doesn't start to work quickly (ie, if the tumor does not respond/shrink), then they will switch chemos

  • okay1
    okay1 Member Posts: 3
    edited April 2016

    I had the absolute worst night and then came and read all your replies. I didn't know they'd be here or that anyone would have read my 'desperate' whine. Woke up and had a screaming-mimi fit at my husband who took it and could only respond after I pulled it out of him 'I'm scared'. That brought it to a close. My moods are all over the place and then some. I'm very grateful to all of you and especially for the explanation of the tissue being cut and chemo being unable to get to the cells. Thank you. I feel more hopeful after a night and day of asking "Why?' I even looked up TNBC as holy punishment and saw how 'not' that was at a great online site. I don't go to support groups, this is hard to talk about in person to anyone outside my immediate family. I actually feel somewhat embarrassed. And my life seems so strange, different. Okay, this has helped a great deal...I'll go through with the Port Catheter surgery on Tues and then the Chemo begins on Friday. Here is my only outlet. TNBC is very very frightening. Before coming to the post I read about some new therapy call PARP, just FYI. Thanks guys, this will help me get through the weekend.

  • shiny
    shiny Member Posts: 892
    edited April 2016

    hi Ok1, read your post and then responses of the cleaver ladies above and felt you'd had a really good lot of quality information, so all I wanted to add was..

    I know, as we all do how stressy the biginning of this journey is, and you are right, initially TNBC can read as very scary when you first read it, but as you know now, there are positives as well.

    You sound alot better from your fitst text. Keep coming over to BCO when you need to, and if it helps..look at my dx year. Had 2 little kiddos, was under 40 but here I am.

    You take care of you. One day at a time.

    And to all who responded, great explanations.

    Hug.

    Shiny

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