My lymphedema has...gone?

Musicgal
Musicgal Member Posts: 21
edited September 2019 in Lymphedema
My lymphedema has...gone?

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  • Musicgal
    Musicgal Member Posts: 21
    edited September 2015

    I developed lymphedema in my right arm, six months after surgery (all lymph nodes removed), and very soon after flying. This was nine years ago.

    I have kept up a complete regimen of arm compression sleeve during day (all day)and power sleeve at night, together with lymphedema massage demonstrated by my lymphedema specialist at Greenville Memorial Hospital (SC).

    I also swim almost every day during the warm weather, if only to move my lymphedema arm through the water.

    Over the years, the swelling from physical activity ( especially lifting, vacuuming and hiking) has lessened in small increments.

    I was told this condition would be with me for life, and I am very used to the regimen and comfortable with it.

    During this past year, my sleeves got a bit older and I was tardy in getting new ones. My power sleeve is also aging...so I started to go without. These past two months, I have had no swelling or other symptoms of lymphedema in my arm. I am monitoring carefully, but it is just not there. My arms are the same size, and if I press on the underside, I do not get an indentation.

    I do not know if this will continue, but I wonder (so little is known or studied about lymphedema), that after all these years of following a strict regimen, that my lymphedema is gone. Stay posted!!

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited September 2015

    Musicgal-

    Welcome! And thank you for sharing your story with us, that is wonderful news! We'll keep our fingers crossed that it's gone for good, please keep us posted!

    The Mods

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited September 2015

    Musicgal, hello and welcome!

    Your screen name is awesome--are you a musician? Those who are can be especially impacted by lymphedema, since it can affect their ability to play and perform. It does sound like you've had that all under great control, though, so brava!

    It's encouraging to hear about improvement with this lousy condition. Celebration is definitely in order--chocolate all around! Wishing you no further signs of this nasty business, ever.

    The underlying cause of the lymphedema has obviously not disappeared, so a bit of caution may still be called for--things like wearing compression for trigger activities, staying active and well hydrated, and doing some deep breathing throughout the day. Looking forward with you to continued swelling-free progress!

    Hugs,
    Binney

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2015

    Musicgal, great screenname and a great story of encouragement. I hope this continues for you.

  • NM71
    NM71 Member Posts: 10
    edited November 2015

    Musicians?

    I am wondering if there are any here who play musical instruments, who have advice, or we could research together.

    I developed mild LE 3 weeks after my surgery - in August 2015, mostly in my right ring and little finger. My arm/hand tests as 7% larger. I had 7 nodes removed (1 positive), then later had 33 days of radiation, of course radiating lymph nodes too, which I finished at the end of Oct. So far things are not worse. But nothing is more important to me at this phase than playing various instruments, in my 3 musical groups (I'm 69), but in good shape for my age.

    The swelling started (3 weeks after surgery) then 2 days after my surgeon broke a cord (from cording) just above my elbow, and I stupidly, a few days later played my bass recorder for a few 2 hour sessions over a few days in a row. I've also wondered if it is cubital tunnel syndrome which affects those 2 fingers, but again I have been diagnosed with mild LE.

    What I do now is wrap at least my ring finger on the lower part of my finger when I play, and both fingers when not playing. I've started again using my sleeve/glove when exercising (aerobics).

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 3,567
    edited November 2015

    NM71, I'm no musician, but if she doesn't respond to your post, try PMing our forum member vlnrph, who is.

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited February 2016

    I'm a guitarist and dulcimerist who had a lumpectomy and SNB this past September. Only 4 nodes were removed--2 ea. sentinel & non-sentinel--and all were negative. I developed a sizable seroma at the SNB site, and it ruptured three weeks post-op and had to be sutured (so far so good). BUT after I started radiation, my tumor-cavity seroma (theretofore invisible) began to swell massively and the subcutaneous capsule around it eventually fibrosed. My breast now has a hard bulge at the side which will likely be permanent and forced me to go up a band and cup size (to 40H or I). I am obese but only mildly-to-moderately so (wearing a size XL-1X in tops & dresses and size 16 in jeans).

    Shortly after finishing radiation I developed some tightness and soreness (and a palpable knot) on the inside of my forearm. I followed my surgeon's nurse's precaution and wore a compression sleeve & gauntlet on a couple of long int'l flights--on the return, I noticed some finger swelling; and for a little while when I was in the mts. in Sicily my arm felt heavy and slightly tight--but normalized at sea level. Upon my return I made an appt. with a lymphedema specialist but felt sort of silly about it because by the time I saw him my symptoms had disappeared. He measured me and declared I didn't have LE and with only 4 nodes out he wouldn't have prescribed compression, but because I had had cording symptoms he was diagnosing me with Stage 0 (subclinical) LE so that Medicare would cover therapy sessions, and because I mentioned finger swelling in-flight with a gauntlet he prescribed me a glove instead for altitude and strenuous exercise only (the gauntlet would be okay for normal exercise, he said).

    Two sessions into therapy I began experiencing subtle swelling and return of the cording pain on non-therapy days; just lifting a heavy guitar case and carrying it five feet resulted in some exacerbation of pain, so I wore kinesio-tape, sleeve & gauntlet to my next gig; the next day I grated some hard cheese and scooped some hard ice cream--by morning the swelling was quite visible and I couldn't bear to dorsiflex my wrist with my arm raised, touch the inside of the arm when stretched, or even do my self-MLD massage. My therapist told me I was now officially at Stage 1 (mild) LE, with cording (the cords are hidden beneath the subcutaneous fat but can be slightly palpated) and for the next 2 wks I must wear compression now during my waking hours (except for showering and doing MLD). I can play with the gauntlet on, but not with the glove--it's too stiff and the fabric hits the strings (I have short fingers and the less-restrictive gloves are way too long in the fingers--the only way to get those with short enough fingers is to buy a child-size, which may otherwise be too tight).

    I have committed to several concerts in the coming months (including one next week) and am terrified that I will either be unable to play or would exacerbate my LE by playing w/o compression. I'd love to hear from the original poster (will PM her in case she doesn't lurk on these boards any more) to find out how she fared.

  • Maggerle
    Maggerle Member Posts: 37
    edited April 2016

    Musicgal...I'm hoping upon hope it is gone! I'm just starting treatment after an exchange 3 months ago....Haven't even done my first appointment (intake) yet...However I was 25 years out for the bilateral MX's so this was a huge shocker for me...I want to believe you are healed, and I want to believe I will be too! Maggie


  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited April 2016

    ChiSandy, talk to your therapist about getting a custom glove. That will allow you to adjust the finger length perfectly for your needs. I'd also suggest you ask about ordering them from Gottfried Medical. They're made here in the U.S. so the orders are quicker than other companies, and the fabric is softer and more flexible as well. (I am compression sensitive and can't use other brands). Do it as soon as you can, so you have time to make sure the fit is right and get used to using them.

    Please do keep us posted and let us know what you discover!

    Be well,
    Binney

  • Musicgal
    Musicgal Member Posts: 21
    edited November 2018

    I am the original poster for " lymphedema is gone?"

    Although I play the piano and Irish whistle, musicgal is because I sponsor free chamber music in my town.

    Another much worse side effect( just posted under subaceous Hyperplasia) prevents me from wearing a sleeve or doing massage, because excess sebum is draining in the opposite direction. Despite this, and plenty of heavy lifting and exercise, my lymphedema is minimal to none. Actually, my lymphedema arm is smaller than the other because of sebum filling up my left forearm.

    I am SO relieved thus far, as this other side effect has been misery and pain for almost three years since I finished my course of ten years on Tamoxifen. I pray no one else has this problem, but it IS ALL about hormones...

    I hope your concerts go well!!

  • hugz4u
    hugz4u Member Posts: 2,781
    edited November 2018

    Musical. Good news. Just do keep an eye on arm cause it can rear its ugly head. Unless you have beginning stage it’s not reversible so it’s there but behaving. Keep exercising because that helps drain fluid but do this gradually if you quit lifting weights for a while otherwise you could start something. Recommendation by a university study is measly one pound weights until you have no sign of a flare. Finally after three years I am doing 10 lb bicep curls everyone progresses different. me slow!

    Man I’m so excited for you though! Not sure on this but I wonder if maybe a few lymph vessels are rerouting to drain you. That may be why you have an improvement. I’m having chocolate in celebration for you!

  • Musicgal
    Musicgal Member Posts: 21
    edited August 2019

    Hi Binney

    Up late!

    Wanted to let you know that my lymphedema is still at bay- I was quite worried, because I developed severe cystic/nodulistic acne after finishing ten years of Tamoxifen, and had gruesome large lesions on my lymphedema arm! I was watching for any signs of cellulitis, especially since I could not wear any compression- the sebum build up is so bad, it drains down, and the compression just creates a big cystic bubble above it. Maybe no cellulitis because the lesions are at epidermoid level? I feel lucky, but still praying!

    I had, finally, after three years of pain and headaches/dizziness, to go on low dose Accutane. Chemo was a cakewalk compared to this long term side effect. Androgens are the culprit! They are the main stimulator of the sebaceous glands. I could fill two bathtubs with the sebum in my body, but I am confident of a complete cure...already seeing a lot less sebum!

  • Musicgal
    Musicgal Member Posts: 21
    edited September 2019

    It has now been four years without garments and no swelling. I even had to give up the swimming because of many cystic acne lesions on my lymphedema arm. I am always aware of my arm, but it is still the same size as my other. How I avoided cellulitis during these past years is beyond me! These lesions are deep in the skin! Grateful.

  • Binney4
    Binney4 Member Posts: 8,609
    edited September 2019

    Free chamber music, huh? Wish I lived in your town!

    I am SO GLAD your LE is under control, and amazed and delighted that you've avoided cellulitis. But best of all is the progress you're seeing with the low-dose Accutane. Now I'm looking forward with you to a complete cure, and wow! after all this time what a joy that will be! Thank you for updating us, and for the encouragement. I'm just sorry for how hard-won that encouragement has been.

    Gentle hugs,
    Binney

  • Musicgal
    Musicgal Member Posts: 21
    edited September 2019

    beautiful words...as soothing as Thais Meditation ( which every violinist in our series seems to play!) 43 free concerts and counting...

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