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  • JerseyMomOf3
    JerseyMomOf3 Member Posts: 96
    edited March 2016

    hi Janet,

    I remember you, thanks so much for sharing your story. I spoke with my ps today and I feel much better about just proceeding with the nipple recon next week and skipping all the revisions- he was very supportive. I am going to try and do them with just a local anesthetic, I would prefer not to have anasthesia or sedation if I dont need it. I'm feeling a lot of relief although a bit of mourning for letting go of the way I envisioned them to be...but then I think of the freedom of letting that go and moving on and that feels pretty darn good.
  • Janet_M
    Janet_M Member Posts: 1,068
    edited March 2016

    JerseyMomof3 -

    Fantastic!

    That's great news. I'm so glad that you have the support of your PS, and that you're feeling some relief. The letting go will come. Someone on this board referred to the DIEP as a 'frontal realignment' and I keep coming back to that phrase. It reminds me that we're not supposed to look exactly how we used to - but we are a much better machine. By the way - I just had a local for my procedure and it was virtually painless. Best of luck to you.

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited April 2016

    I am in the same boat. 7 surgeries and my two sides are still not the same size. I did my nips and tats and decided to wait awhile before trying anything else.

    I will probably get a second opinion just to know if there is a fix. Then I can decide. My real issue is I really didn't want to go through all this to have to wear a prosthesis if I want to wear a bra. I also have not been able to find any swimsuit to look ok. I live in the south near the beaches so this is really causing an issue with my life style. My husband is still an avid surfer.

    But I am cancer free.

  • enjoyevrymoment
    enjoyevrymoment Member Posts: 334
    edited April 2016

    I saw my PS yesterday, here it is 2 years out and she was pleased. Mine are not perfect but I still marvel that this procedure can be done, we do not have to have implants replaced. Like you LAStar I have been trying hard to lose some weight. I have 2 neighborhood women who walk 4 miles with me every day and it has been a real game changer as far as emotionally and slowly losing some. I also have to say it has helped the bone pain from Femara, which was a pleasant bonus.

    Jeannine, I don't take that for granted either. I am definitely diving into the bucket list because I know what a gift each day is. To those with Stage 4 or recurrence no doubt they may wonder why someone with early stage would feel that way but it does rock your world and you know you are so wanting to live each day with passion. Did you try Land's End, they have a really nice assortment with some high necked styles that are cute.

    Best wishes JerseyMom

  • BigSister-2015
    BigSister-2015 Member Posts: 342
    edited April 2016

    Janet, you have the best bits of wisdom. Love your "there is no wrong decision--just another adventure" saying from your mom. That gives me great comfort as I continue on the path I have before and behind me!

  • JerseyMomOf3
    JerseyMomOf3 Member Posts: 96
    edited April 2016

    nipple recon tomorrow- has to take place in the OR but I hope to only have local anasthesia. How long did it take to be able to go to the gym? Can you drive soon afterwards? Shower??

  • Janet_M
    Janet_M Member Posts: 1,068
    edited April 2016

    JerseyMomOf3 -

    How exciting!

    I don't know how many different types of nipple recon there are - but in my case it was sort of an 'origami' style, which took 45 minutes with a local anesthetic. I drove home immediately afterwords without any discomfort. I had stitches on both nipples and they were covered with gauze, and nipple protectors. The gauze was about 2" x 2" with a hole cut in the middle so the nips won't get squished. My protectors were made from the bottom of a plastic pill cup, and were slightly larger than the screw top of a wine bottle. To be honest - I expected something a bit more high-tech, but I got a kick out of watching my highly skilled (and very handsome) PS trying to cut the little cup with his scissors.

    Immediately following the procedure I drove home. I don't remember any significant discomfort and the seat belt wasn't a problem. I wore a lightly padded bra while my breasts recovered, and even in a T-shirt, the protectors were practically unnoticeable. I can't remember how long it was till I showered, but I think I took baths for a few days. And I do remember changing the gauze a couple of times - there was a little bit of bleeding but it was minimal, and I just wiped the area, reapplied the gauze, and taped on the protectors back on. Piece of cake.

    As for the gym - I wouldn't know!

    I will say this. My routine wasn't affected by this procedure. I went back to work the next day - absolutely no problem - and my job is active. I walked my dog and I went to yoga. But - my guess would be that you wouldn't want to do a vigorous activity which would cause a lot of friction. I was fairly well bound with a good bra - and I didn't do anything too physically ambitious. Again, I'm just speculating, as I wasn't doing any heavy duty cardio stuff. And my dog is a basset hound, so my walks are moderate.

    The day I got my stitches out was thrilling. As I may have mentioned, I was lackadaisical about the whole process and was willing to live with my Barbie boobs, but my PS said that nipples were a good idea, and he was right. I love them.

    I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. Good luck, and congratulations.

    Janet

  • JerseyMomOf3
    JerseyMomOf3 Member Posts: 96
    edited April 2016

    hi Janet, thank you so much for your funny and candid response! I love the visual of your handsome surgeon cutting up a little plastic cup! LOL

    This is really helpful, thank you! I know you were ambivalent and I am so happy that you love your nipples- awesome!!! I always knew I would want nipples, for me the struggle is knowing my rightie is lumpy but not wanting to endure a big surgery or more to try and fix it...I am a little weepy about it today but I am so glad I am not having anything more done tomorrow! I think I can live with it, but I imagine I can always do more if I feel I need to......above all i wanto move forward.

  • caligirl3
    caligirl3 Member Posts: 86
    edited April 2016

    JerseyMomOf3,

    Wishing you well with your surgery tomorrow! I had my nipple reconstruction surgery in October 2015. I am very happy I did. My PS used a nipple reconstruction cylinder (a type of graft material) which has helped me retain great nipple projection. It came with nipple shields which made it easy to protect them from flattening. As far as the gym, I also had fat grafting to fix irregularities so I had to refrain from vigorous physical activity for about 1 month(this was so the fat that was grafted could establish a good blood supply). The nipple reconstruction part was not difficult at all. I was able to shower after my post op visit (about 3 days later) after the PS took the bandages off. I would just let them air dry, then apply an antibiotic ointment, then the shields. I was able to drive as long as I wasn't taking any narcotic pain medication. I totally understand you not wanting to have more surgery done. Before my surgery I had just gotten back into a good workout routine, was losing weight and starting to see results, then I had to stop. It has been really difficult getting the same momentum going again. I hope you will be pleased with your results. Just be prepared that when you first see them it is a bit shocking, because they appear so big. They will shrink. When my PS first took the bandages off, he must have seen the look on my face because he said, "what? you don't like the large headlights look?" we had a good laugh. He reassured me that they would shrink to a good size, and they have. If you have any more questions please feel free to ask me.

  • JerseyMomOf3
    JerseyMomOf3 Member Posts: 96
    edited April 2016

    I had my nipple recon yesterday, mine took place in the OR under light sedation. My PS also did a revision to my rightie! I am so hoping it makes the shape a little better! He thinks it will ! Interesting that I have no nipple protectors at all- instead I am bandaged and sealed with tegaderm, so I could shower if I want. I am told to take the dressings off in three days unless they are saturated with blood, etc then sooner but not before 24 hours. I don't see my Ps for a week or so. The surgery took 2 hours which was a long time to be awake for but the light sedation helped. I have been sleeping a lot, he said to take it easy for about one week. So glad I did it, I hope they look good!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2016

    Haven't been on this board since 2014! Just had my nips done last week and, for the most part, everything looks good....except that lefty protrudes a bit more than righty. Righty almost drove me around the bend the first 30 hours because the tip of the nip itched like a SOB.

    Anyone have slightly different size nip projection that evened out after awhile? I was awake and watched the procedure, hubby took pictures too, so I know the nips were created from the same "mold" so to speak.

    I'm thinking it is the typical radiated vs. non radiated skin reaction...

  • Tan72
    Tan72 Member Posts: 52
    edited April 2016

    HeidiToo, I think it is common to gave them look lopsided at first, I remember when I decided to do mine and was so disappointed at how different they were and BIG, now they look so natural it's amazing the transformation. I was very upset a few weeks ago when they had to do a biopsy right near the nipple, I thought oh no, not again, my girls look so good. Luckily results came back good and nipple stayed in tack.

    Best wishes to everyone, it takes a village and you ladies are wonderful!

  • trish01254
    trish01254 Member Posts: 128
    edited April 2016

    I went for 2 nd attempt at nipple recon. Is just as flat as the first. Waste of money I'm happy enought too. It is amazing how well balanced they are so feeling good I do have a flat spot near my cleavage that looks funny when I flex but that too I can live with.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2016

    Sorry, I don't come in here much anymore....but wanted to update. My nips have evened out and look fantastic....perfect size and so realistic. I wasn't going to bother with the areola tattoo but my PS thinks I should. So, having gotten the new headlights, I may as well go for the white walls too!

  • Janet_M
    Janet_M Member Posts: 1,068
    edited April 2016

    Heidi Too,

    So great that you're happy with your new headlights! It's always so exciting when someone posts with happy news. I was ambivalent about my tattoos as well, but went ahead upon the urging of my surgeon. I love them. It's the best 'normal' that I'll ever be.

    Here's to your new whitewalls!


  • LisaMarie67
    LisaMarie67 Member Posts: 12
    edited May 2016

    Hi ladies. I need advice from the "been there, done that" group! I tried the implant route, but had several infections, so I now have one side with a pretty good looking implant, but one side flat. I am looking into the DIEP flap. At my consultation, the doc recommends leaving the implant and just doing the DIEP on one side. He says I don't have a lot of belly fat, and may even need a small implant on the DIEP side to get the C cup size I have with my implant. I am concerned that over time, the symmetry will be off. Anyone out there have this combination? Also, any and all advice is welcome.

  • LAstar
    LAstar Member Posts: 1,574
    edited May 2016

    I had a uni-DIEP last year after one of my SGAP breasts failed, and it is a lot easier to have only one side done. You still have one arm that you can use during recovery, which is nice! I think symmetry is a challenge in general and sometimes requires some follow-up tweaks. If you might have to have implants anyway, it might be unnecessary to have a bilateral DIEP. If the existing implant is uncomfortable, you might have a bilateral DIEP and go smaller. After 6 (!) surgeries throughout this BC process, my personal feeling is that good enough is good enough and less surgery is more!

  • RHGSR
    RHGSR Member Posts: 774
    edited May 2016

    hello all! I haven't been on this board in a long while. I had my DIEP immediately with my double mastectomy in November 2013. But that was when they realized my cancer was more closely a stage III rather than IIb and that I would need radiation as well as chemo.

    So my radiated side looks like a chicken cutlet that was left in the oven too long (always at attention) and the side that wasn't radiated is spread out and low.

    I had to wait a year to do anything because I developed radiation pneumonitis after radiation in August 2014.

    I just had some reconstruction done this past December. But I'm having trouble getting the lymphedema down enough to where you can see what the plastic surgeon did. So I'm not sure exactly what's going to be done next. I know I will need more revision before I even begin to think about nipples.

    In other words this has been a very long and drawn out process for me. Going on 2 1/2 years now.

    My right lung is scarred. And they just found a new nodule which may or may not be "just due to inflammation". So that's a little scary.

    Jeanine- I think I know you. We may have talked before. I have in-laws that live in the Crosby area. I know right where Dayton is.



  • Kat-ski
    Kat-ski Member Posts: 212
    edited May 2016

    Hi Ladies! I have not been here for some time. I had a Bilateral DIEP on Feb. 24, 2014. I have had some issues with healing and a PE in my right lung. That being said, my Stage 2 reconstruction didn't get done. Now, things have finally settled down and I am getting the second step done on June 2, 2016. PRMA did the first surgery. The plan was to have stage 2 in Chicago in Oct. 2014 but due to the blood clot it was canceled. Now, she doesn't want to do it and I respect her choice. I have a Plastic Surgeon here in GR, MI that has been doing flaps. Since she has more experience since Feb. 2014, I will have her finish up. I am totally ready to get this done but the scary willies are being felt. Please, please pray that it all goes like it should. Oh, the 2nd chemo I had, really messed up my hair follicles. The longest it managed to get was just above the shoulders so I have it just about an inch longer where my ears are. My top back is so so thing. I tried the biotin route for 1.5 and it didn't help so,it is what it is.

    My husband, Stan and I are doing fine. We added two rescue kitties to our home.

    I hope ya'll are fine and in good health. Kat

  • Kanada
    Kanada Member Posts: 12
    edited May 2016

    Hi Kat - I just had my Stage 2 yesterday - I'm one of the lucky ones - it was a breeze. I'll find out on Tuesday if it looks as good as it feels - lotta wonky skin feels taken care of = normal.  Wishing everyone the best of luck !  Jo Ann

  • smilethrupain
    smilethrupain Member Posts: 160
    edited August 2016

    hi, I found this post when researching flaps. How has your experience been so far - recovery wise? I had a left mastectomy with tissue expanders. Will need to decide on implant it diep flap after chemo. Thanks

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    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited August 2016

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  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited August 2016

    You might want to ask this question in the DIEP Flap Reconstruction 2016 thread for more responses.

    It has been two years for most of of us here in this thread.

    My recovery was a challenge due to some complications but two yeas out everything seems to be working out. Most people tend to finish up within one year with amazing results. It is a major operation, the first couple of months are tiring and things seem to turn the corner. Most women need a modification surgery 3-6 months later.

    Even with my complications I would do it all over again. Implants were not an option for me since my breast was radiated. That said, I knew I could not live with implants after having tissue expanders for several months. I did not want anything under my pec muscle.

    Good luck making your decision.

  • smilethrupain
    smilethrupain Member Posts: 160
    edited August 2016
  • brendarj
    brendarj Member Posts: 72
    edited September 2018

    Hello Janet. Did you have Dr. H. from TGH. If so we chatted in 2014. A year after DIEP and alot of healing issues I developed incisional hernia which he fixed with mesh a week later readmitted with staph infection. Everything was great till late 2017 when hernia came back on right side. It was painful this time so my gp ordered ct found a large 9 cm cyst on left ovary but MRI showed no ovarian cancer. Cyst and ovaries removed April 2018 Pathology found bc in both ovaries so now stage 4. Started Ibrance and all scsns have been clear. None of this related to DIEP but just needed to touch base and vent a little. Hope all is well with you

    To all the DIEP ladies. Having this surgery was one of the best decisions. Gave me back my self esteem

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