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  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited February 2016

    If you haven't already read it, do look for Sugar Blues by William Duffy. It's not new (1986), but has achieved classic status in the sugar-as-danger arena. I think this is where I read that if sugar were newly available, the FDA might not approve it. Food for thought.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited February 2016

    Alaska, how does chemo affect testosterone levels in women?

  • dtad
    dtad Member Posts: 2,323
    edited March 2016

    AlaskaAngel.....Finally someone that sees how contradictory some of these bc treatments are! From what I have read the single most important change we can make to reduce recurrence is exercise and weight loss. Why in the world would they prescribe drugs that make us immobile and lowers our metabolism ??? Would love to see a study comparing weight loss and exercise vs anti hormone treatment in reducing recurrence. Could it possibly have something to do with pharmaceutical companies and money? Probably going out on a limb here but food for thought?

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited March 2016

    I've been tweaking this recipe forever. Original appeared in " Cooking Light" magazine. Low sodium, low fat, NO REFINED SUGAR, high fibre and almost every vitamin and mineral you can think of. Good start to the day.

    1 3/4 cups wheat bran (toast first if you want to, I couldn't be bothered, as long as you soak, you're good)

    1 cup whole pitted dates (the container I buy is sometimes a little more than a cup. I throw them all in, doesn't make a difference)

    3/4 cup fresh orange juice

    1 cup fat-free buttermilk (or use skim milk with a teaspoon of vinegar added.

    1/2 cup mashed ripe banana (about 1 medium)

    2 tablespoon olive oil (if texture is a concern for you, use olive oil. If you don't mind mushy, just sub additional apple sauce at 1:1 ratio. I don't mind, so I use no fat, just apple sauce. Definitely poorer texture, but it's a good trade-off to me).

    2 tablespoons unsweetened Apple sauce

    1 teaspoon vanilla extract

    1 cup whole wheat flour

    1 and a 1/2 teaspoons low sodium baking powder

    1/2 teaspoon baking soda

    1/2 teaspoon ground cinnamon

    1/8 teaspoon salt (I've left this out too and still turned out ok).

    4 egg whites (I use tetra-packed whites to avoid waste. If you're ok with yolks, sub with 2 whole eggs instead)

    Pre-prep...bring oj and dates to a boil and simmer for twenty minutes. Let cool to room temp. Takes a long time to cool so I refrigerate to hurry it along. Liquify in food processor or blender.

    Add all liquids (including date mixture, banana, apple sauce etc. to the bran and let it soak about 1/2 hour.

    Assemble dry ingredients in large bowl. Add your liquid bran mixture, stir to combine.

    Bake at 350 for about 25 minutes or so. My oven's a bit off so just do the toothpick test after 25 minutes.

    Makes 12 large

    Note: won't give you the nice mushroom cap on top, but still not heavy or too dense for a bran muffin.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited March 2016

    "Would love to see a study comparing weight loss and exercise vs anti hormone treatment in reducing recurrence."

    While there's no doubt diet and exercise can play a significant role in cancer prevention, for what it's worth, I am a "study of one" who refused an A/I (after a passing out episode a few days into the one I tried) in favor of I3C, curcumin and other supplements, plus hormone balancing with an extremely competent ND, convinced it would be equivalent to or better than Tamox or an A/I. Oh, and I am athletic -- walked 5 to 6 miles most days, worked out with a trainer, eat extremely healthy, don't eat sugar and don't carry any extra weight. And long story short -- here I am with diffuse and extensive bone mets -- which, by the way, improved significantly as soon as I got on Anastrazole (Arimidex), after I was dx'd w/mets.

    I'm not trying to take anything away from the importance of diet and exercise. Just sayin'... in many cases, it may not be enough -- even combined with other things -- to ensure someone won't have a recurrence. Deanna

  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 1,493
    edited March 2016

    I am another one who refused AI's after initial diagnosis and surgery, choosing to try the healthy lifestyle route alone instead-- and wound up three years later with extensive mets throughout my skeleton, around my right ovary, and in my pericardial fluid. I have been on treatment meds almost six years and have been NED for two and half years. I still eat a very healthy diet, avoid sugar and processed foods, take supplements twice daily and toss back the green drinks almost daily. I have no doubt all this helps my body fight this disease. But I would definitely not be alive without treatment.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited March 2016

    lulubee, like you, I had a combination of ILC & IDC, as well as multicentric disease. Glad to see you're currently NED/stable on Xeloda!

    leggo, that recipe sounds delicious. I wonder if it would work with oat bran, or maybe a combination of oat bran and oats? Or do you have another suggestion for someone who is wheat intolerant?

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited March 2016

    Deanna, baking is my least favorite thing....stuff rarely turns out for me, so this is just a guess, but I assume oat bran would work. It's just fibrefill, I think. I wouldn't try oats, but that's because I'm cheap and would hate to throw out a batch of dates that cost an arm and a leg. I suck at baking substitutions unless an ingredient affects my health, so don't listen to me:) I really know nothing and don't want you wasting your time and money. Did I mention I can't stand baking?

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited March 2016

    leggo, they grow dates around here (the Coachella Valley) and they're reasonably priced and so fresh -- not at all like what you find in supermarkets in other parts of the country. So the next time you need some (unless you're in Canada), PM me, and I'll treat you to a nice, fresh batch!

    The reason I hesitated about using all oat bran is it can be very "cleansing," LOL. I guess wheat bran can, too. And from your recipe, I never would have guessed that you don't like to bake! A few years ago, my son bought me a big Kitchenaid mixer for Christmas, and I swear, it's increased my enjoyment of baking by 1000%! It's such a pleasure to use. Also, someone on the Bone Mets thread suggested using coconut sugar, and I've found a little works really well in baking. I also use real maple syrup if I need a touch of sweetness.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2016

    Deanna, isn't that the truth...sigh. No matter what we do, there is still the chance of recurrence. I think the only thing getting me through right now is knowing that at least I'm doing everything I CAN to hopefully reduce a chance of recurrence, and if I do recur--I will know I took everything, did everything, and that kitchen sink too--so it was just my luck of the draw. I think I try to live with no regrets or look-backs or "gee, I wish I hads". You know.

    Nothing is guaranteed. I have a very, very good friend who mentored me through bc--recommended PS, MOs, etc. Her bc hasn't returned, but 10 years after her dx she was dx with multiple myeleoma (sp) and there's no treatment for that...it's just a wait and see, and if she doesn't get worse in 2 more years or so, she's probably going to be okay.

    Claire/R

  • leggo
    leggo Member Posts: 3,293
    edited March 2016

    Awe Deanna, thanks. What a nice offer. I am in Canada :(

    If I didn't have kids, I would have never baked a thing my whole life. I could easily do without sweets. Bread however, is my kryptonite. So happy someone invented the breadmaker.

    I envy your access to so much wonderful stuff. Now, maple syrup.....THAT I can get here by the truckload, lol.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited March 2016

    Yes, Claire, it's immensely frustrating that some women can do all the wrong things, like eat a typical American diet and drink alcohol, and never get a bc dx, while some of us who take really good care of our bodies end up with it -- although I suppose many of those people end up with other health issues. Not to wander off topic, but I personally think stress is such a major contributor because of the way it changes the environment of our bodies -- maybe somewhat the way sugar does -- allowing bc to get a foothold or recur. And I'm so very sorry to hear about your friend, but also kind of surprised to hear there is no tx. That seems strange. Is she seeing a multiple myeloma specialist?

  • movingsoccermom
    movingsoccermom Member Posts: 225
    edited March 2016

    My frustration is that most of the folks recommending 2 hours or more of exercise per day have absolutely no clue what they are talking about, since they have never in their lives exercised that much. I have. During my 20's I trained for and competed in triathlons (qualifying for nationals). It is an extraordinary commitment and one that completely fell by the wayside once I had children. I have absolutely no intentions of doing that again. It is exceptionally hard work and for most people completely unrealistic.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2016

    Hi movingsoccermom, I think the nurses study regarding recurrence and exercise (it's a famous one, you can find it online) recommended 3-5 hours of moderate exercise per week. More doesn't seem to make much difference, if you can take heart in that!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited March 2016

    Hi Deanna,

    It was found during a random BC checkup, ironically. Smouldering myeloma apparently has no treatment; it's a weird subtype of MM and all that can be done is to watch it and hope it doesn't manifest into full blown MM. There are some treatments for that, but it's much harder to treat and the outcome is much worse than if it were BC.

    Claire/r

  • solfeo
    solfeo Member Posts: 838
    edited March 2016

    I have read that too much exercise can cause stress and inflammation in the body in itself (Google it). 2 hours per day would seem to fall into that category, at least in my opinion as a former couch potato. It would definitely stress me out mentally to think I needed 2 hours per day to prevent recurrence, because I could never achieve it.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited March 2016

    I would guess it would depend some on age. no way could I have time or energy for that ow, I used to fast walk seveeral miles a day, now my exercice is mostly taking care of this trouble, and it is exersice having no clothes washer

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited March 2016

    I just came across a recent article/study that recommends 150 mins. per week (not per day) of moderate to intense exercise. That sounds far more realistic.

    http://www.care2.com/greenliving/do-only-3-percent...

    Also not sure if this is the same study or just a coincidence, but here's another (?) one from a different source (U's of Oregon/Mississippi) that quotes the same dismal stat re. the number of healthy vs. unhealthy Americans.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/03/1603...


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