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  • JerseyGirl22
    JerseyGirl22 Member Posts: 342
    edited March 2016

    Hello to all of you lovelies!!!!

    I'm two weeks post final boost, today!!!! My skin is nearly back to normal, with a little peeling...That Miaderm really worked for me!

    Congrats to all who are finishing this week and hugs to all of you!

  • Katja23
    Katja23 Member Posts: 46
    edited March 2016

    Thanks to this discussion forum, I learned that it might not be a good idea to take vitamins/supplements. My RO had said nothing. So, at my weekly appointment with my RO today, I asked about it. It is ill-advised, in theory, due to the free radical behavior of antioxidants, but it has not been scientifically proven. He said that it was probably OK to continue taking a multivitamin, since the amounts if the individual vitamins in it are not too high, although it's probably not necessary if I eat well. Rather, itt is the individual antioxidant supplements, such as vitamin A, C, D, and E, that should be avoided, he said. I do take vitamin D, as advised by my PCP due to my low vitamin D blood levels. That's in my medical records, listed as a "medication." My RO should have seen that. When I pointed it out, he apologized that he should have seen that. Oh, well, it's probably not that bad that I took vitamin D for the first 2 weeks of 6 1/2 weeks of radiation, but I am discontinuing now. So, I suppose there are others who take antioxidants and are not told not to, due to such and oversight.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited March 2016

    Thanks for the heads-up on Vit D!! My MO told me to take it even though he knew I was going to get rads. He put me on Arimidex and wanted me to supplement my bones. My RO hasn't even asked...I'll ask this Friday.

  • Sunnyone22
    Sunnyone22 Member Posts: 191
    edited March 2016

    This board is the first I"ve heard of supplements and radiation too. I will ask my RO today, at my first treatment. I take a multi vit. but will like start Vit D once I start an aromatase inhibitor half way through rads. I would never have known to ask if it hadn't been for this board.

    You ladies are amazing!

  • KateB79
    KateB79 Member Posts: 747
    edited March 2016

    My MO and RO both wanted me to take vitamin D throughout all of my treatments. Recent studies show that high vitamin D levels correlate with lower risk of distant mets. Just sayin': I wouldn't stop taking vitamin D unless they told me I'd die if I kept taking it. I mean that completely honestly.

  • KarenR0618
    KarenR0618 Member Posts: 78
    edited March 2016

    Welcome Sunnyone.

  • Windward
    Windward Member Posts: 65
    edited March 2016

    Hi Sunnyone22,
    If you already had your simulation and are starting for real tomorrow then I am just one week ahead of you on my 28 day journey. So far no burn or side effects, except for the ache and knots in the left shoulder muscle from being in the arm stirrups.Can"t find a comfortable position no matter how hard they try. RO gave me some exercises to do, hope they help, even 15 minutes on "The Rack" feels like torture lite!
    I have been taking Vitamin D separately and with Calcium Citrate for years. RO knows about it and has no problem with it. So am puzzled by the conflicting responses of various ROs.

    I was just told not to add any meds or supplements on my own during these weeks.

    Welcome to this awesome sisterhood, sorry you have to be here, glad you found us.


  • mdoc524
    mdoc524 Member Posts: 336
    edited March 2016

    Welcome Welcome Sunnyone22 - so sorry you are here but so glad you found this awesome group! Hope your 1st one went well today and the rest go smooth. Not everyone here had major skin issues so don't panic - hopefully you won't! I did have skin open but in the clavicle area which is common - you may not get zaps to that area if you did not have positive nodes! Hope your 28 treatments go smooth - let us know if you need anything

    Feel better Musosgirl - I had that nasty cold/sinus thing that knocked me on my butt a few weeks ago and I have to say it is still lingering but more annoying now than anything!!

    Brimton - How awesome for you with your surprise lunch!!! My friends and family did something similar for my last day of chemo! Tomorrow is your last day - Woot!!

    KateB & JerseyGirl - thanks for sharing the healing has begun - love it & can't wait!

    For anyone looking for ideas to give something to your Rads Team when finishing - I made up a Jar full of Easter Candy (see pics) for my group of techs and RO's Staff .. way easier than the brownies and cookies I made for chemo nurses.. Jar was about $5 at Target and Candy - had to get it anyway for the kids baskets .. hardest part was not eating it LOL .. anyway thought I would share .. 2 more treatments - WooHoo Duzy, DiDel, Brimton, adarkadapted - here we go to the finish line!

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    Hugs to all

    Mary

  • Moondust
    Moondust Member Posts: 510
    edited March 2016

    JerseyGirl, congrats on recovering quickly! I'm liking the Miaderm too.

    Barbe, my MO said to take Vit D also, but based on what Katja said, I think I'll discontinue it until I ask.

    Sunnyone, make sure you ask your RO about the specific multi vitamin. Mine did not want me to take one during treatment. No extra supplements of anti-oxidants, which a multi vitamin is almost sure to contain.

    Katja, I am going to ask my RO about Vit D, because I'm still taking that. Thanks for the heads up!

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 3,731
    edited March 2016

    Well today I got laid off from Rads for three days. RO wants my skin to heal before continuing. Was supposed to be done end of next week. 8 to go. I guess that's ok? What's the hurry?

  • Kimmer33
    Kimmer33 Member Posts: 386
    edited March 2016

    i was encouraged to take vit d and calcium during rads, interesting difference in advice

  • Martini
    Martini Member Posts: 30
    edited March 2016

    I too was encouraged to take vitamin d and calcium during rads. I have 4 more to go of 25. Not red but do have a little bit of rash starting and some itching. I'm sixty this year so don't know if that has anything to do with fatigue but I'm exhausted quickly!

    Congratulations to all who have finished, healing thoughts to those with sore boobs, armpits and clavicles and welcome to those just starting out!

    And to you, Mary, a thousand thank yous for starting this thread, I haven't posted often but have read every post, gleaned a wealth of information and thought of each and every one of you as we traveled this path simultaneously.

    Warm hugs to all (gentle side hugs :)

    Marilyn

  • Kokomo26
    Kokomo26 Member Posts: 64
    edited July 2016

    @Bella_16.....thank you for info and good wishes. I see you are also PR- like me...not too many of us here.

    @Brimton....surprised your RO added 2 more boosts but he though it was necessary.

    @DiDel.....wow...sounds rough...hope the healing has started.

    @Mary....thanks for info and encouragement. Good luck with the double duty.

    @Katja23....I particularly asked the pharmacist at my Cancer Center about ALL my supplements and was told Vit D and calcium were ok to continue taking. So now worried as I too have had 10 treatments taking 2000 D daily. So frustrating!!!!!!!!!

    Hugs to all.


  • Brimton
    Brimton Member Posts: 87
    edited March 2016
    Hi everyone well tomorrow is it the last day! Thanks KATE I still visualize all of us holding hands. It gets me through. DUZZY MARY DELDI this is IT. I will be thinking of you all and doing a happy dance.Talked to RN today about vitamins. She said vitamins ok and antioxidant tea ok too. She said that was more for chemo patients. I heard so many conflicting reports I went off of everything until this is over. But that is tomorrow! She also said to put on sun screen and wear a cover up all summer. GOOD LUCK to all of you starting drink your fluids and cream up.
  • DiDel
    DiDel Member Posts: 1,329
    edited March 2016

    Katja my center was running late too must've been the time change..then my RO was on vacation ...my last week I waited 45 mins and left to see the Dr filling in for him..needless to say I got yelled at this morning ..whoops but how nice that you ran into someone unexpected on the train. Makes more sense of the crazy morning like that's how things were supposed to go.

    So far they said I don't need silvadene but will check me the next two days then I found out I don't need to see RO for a month afterwards

    Kimmer the Xeroform has been amazing for me..I was crazy itchy

    Sweet dreams ladies...

    Diane

  • Moondust
    Moondust Member Posts: 510
    edited March 2016

    Sometimes it drives me nuts how different and conflicting advice is given by different doctors! My RO said no big doses of antioxidants from supplements, because antioxidants help repair damaged DNA. The radiation works by damaging DNA to kill any cancer cells, and we don't want to help those buggers repair themselves with megadoses of antioxidants. But normal food sources of antioxidants such as vegetables are okay. That's just MY doctor talking, and I certainly can't vouch that he is right and others are wrong. This web page seems to say that Vit D is especially good at helping to repair DNA.

    I think I'll stop taking it for the rest of radiation. My bones won't start to crumble in a few weeks. But I hope I c;an take it during chemo, since I'll be shielding all my skin from the sun this year.

    Brimton, congrats on arriving at the last day! I can hardly wait to be there.

  • Sunnyone22
    Sunnyone22 Member Posts: 191
    edited March 2016

    Thanks to all of you for your nice welcome. I've found a home to commiserate with fellow rad. takers and am very appreciative.

    Today's first treatment went well. I'm told it was longer than most will be because they took locator Xrays plus the rad. onco came in to oversee the treatment and consult. He told me not to move and just talked to me while I was there with my arms over my head holding onto a bar and trying not to move! So weird!! It's funny how we give up any semblance of modesty when going thru something like this. Oh well........

    I asked rad. onco today about the supplement question (which I first heard here on this board). He said much the same thing as others here - that I should avoid any supplement with anti-oxidents in them, including fish oil. He said multi-vitamin was OK though. I guess it's so low in anti-oxidents that it won't really hurt.

    I want to share with you all how I plan to mark progress on this 5 1/2 week journey.

    28 gumballs in 4 champagne flutes. I get to eat one gumball a day after each treatment (a real treat for someone who has given up sugar) and a glass of champagne after each flute empties! Crazy I know but I need a bit of reinforcement each day, and I need to see progress. Here's a photo of the start of my journey:

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    You would have laughed at me trying to pick out the pink gumballs from the bin of colored gumballs at the candy store!!

    ((((Hugs)))) to all of you here. I wish we weren't here but am grateful for each and every one of you.

  • Moondust
    Moondust Member Posts: 510
    edited March 2016

    Love it, Sunnyone! What a perfect way to help get through the treatments! Nice happy color, too.

  • El_Tigre
    El_Tigre Member Posts: 520
    edited March 2016

    Yes I was encouraged to take Vit D and calcuim thru rads as well.

    OMG So cute Sunnyone

  • Ag23
    Ag23 Member Posts: 37
    edited March 2016

    Hello everyone. My last chemo was January 8th. I started with AC and my last Taxol was on January 8th. Here's my question...have any of you had a post chemo rash that started up a month or two AFTER finishing chemo? I would say that it started up for me 3 or 4 weeks ago (so about 5 weeks after chemo ended). It's not itchy. It's on my arms and back (very small bumps, some are a little red) and on my face (cheeks and jaw line, slightly more red). Is this normal? I called my MOs nurse and she said she didn't know and to call my PCP :o( I don't think my PCP knows I even have cancer! Thank you!

  • brithael
    brithael Member Posts: 224
    edited March 2016

    First rads yesterday - took forever because of placing and taking of xrays (again!) I learned one important lesson. Always go to the toilet before getting on the table!

  • Sunnyone22
    Sunnyone22 Member Posts: 191
    edited March 2016

    Moondust - I'm curious about why you're doing rads first before chemo? Seems like many others do chemo first. Hope to hear from you!

  • phoebe58
    phoebe58 Member Posts: 193
    edited March 2016

    I am just over a month post-rads. Skin has healed well, and all incisions look fine, though field is still lightly tanned. The 2 small rashy rawish bits that developed from friction in the darkest spots under arm and then under boob are long gone. I have not had any I am keeping up creams [using leftovers] but only after shower and pre bed. I still keep up the stretch routine too to maintain flexibility. About the antioxidant topic ... I too was told to stop all but a multivit [which has such a small amount they don't seem to worry], but restarted my usual handful 2 weeks after. I wanted to make sure my rads were as effective as possible. My fatigue is fading too and I am starting to feel pretty normal, but still doing only lighter activity or for shorter periods to minimize lymphedema risk. Snow shovel has been put away and I am contemplating garden thoughts:) I am also looking into a sun shirt for the summer as recommended by my PS - t shirt to wear in water [I do a lot of kayaking and paddle boarding at the lake in summer] to block UV as that skin will be uber sensitive for a long time. A lot of fashionable options when you google it. I see my RO for a final followup April 1st ... April fool's day!

    oh Sunny - you are too funny! Loved the champagne gum balls:) I did 28 too. Best wishes to all on their treatment path.

  • KarenR0618
    KarenR0618 Member Posts: 78
    edited March 2016

    Sunnyone I love the idea of the gumballs. It's a great and yummy way to count down your rads.

    I had my 6th today. They have been running about 45 minutes to a hour late since I started. They always apologies but it is frustrating. Today I got there and no one was waiting. I was called back within 3 minutes. I was in and out before my appointment time. It was great. I came into work and because our Metro system closed down today everyone seemed to drive. I had to drive around 20 minutes to find a place to park. I still got into work before I have been the last 5 rad days.

  • JOWE
    JOWE Member Posts: 12
    edited March 2016

    Today I had my 16th treatment of rad. I have a question the last few day I have been having very sharp pain going threw my breast it is a very bad pain. has anyone else had this problem.

  • Brimton
    Brimton Member Posts: 87
    edited March 2016

    Last day! 💃😃💃 I have had a huge grin all day! I cannot believe I don't have to go there in the am!! I get to walk my dog and enjoy the day🌸🌸🌸 I will be thinking of all of you as you move through to completion. My best girlfriend came with flowers and a balloon. All the techs hugged me. My sister grilled the RN one last time. She did say that side will always be more sensitive. No blood pressures or needle sticks there. MOONDUST Thank you it's be an emotional time. You will get there. BRITHAEL Too funny about having to pee! I have been pushing 48 oz of water prior to treatment ... I ended up peeing right before my rads. It was fine except when the took additional films or did a quality review.PHOEBE I too will be getting a skin or surf shirt. I want to swim in the ocean😬 THANKYOU ALL for being here.

  • JerseyGirl22
    JerseyGirl22 Member Posts: 342
    edited March 2016

    Brimton!!!! Yay! You! So happy for you!!!!

  • mdoc524
    mdoc524 Member Posts: 336
    edited March 2016

    WooHoo Brimton - High Fives and Happy Dances to you! Congrats! Duzy, DiDel - we are next - tomorrow will be the best St. Patty's Day ever! A little extra emotional for me as I lost my Dad suddenly 11 years ago and St Patty's Day was his favorite Holiday! I feel like finishing on St Patty's Day is the sign that he has been with me the whole time! adarkadapted - then you on Friday! Exciting Week! I feel like a kid on the night before Christmas

    Marijen - hope your 3 day break helps your skin and it does not get any worse - hugs to you!

    Martini - so great to hear from you and hope your last 4 go well! Agree on the fatigue - hits me like a brick wall - can't wait to not want to take a nap all the time! I am not a nap person! And you are welcome - it has been my pleasure - we have such an awesome group here!

    Sunnyone22 - glad your 1st day went well and love love the gumball idea!!

    UGH Ag3 - I had a really bad itchy rash starting with Taxol #2 all the way thru the end - MO put me on several rounds of steroids which kept it at bay.. I hate when these Oncologists point the finger that it is not chemo related - they did that to me and I had an immediate allergic reaction to Taxol and I pushed back and actually shared with my chemo nurse that I was sick of being told my side effects were not chemo related and they stopped - I would push back and ask for a Steroid dose pack to get some relief..

    brithael - glad day 1 is in the books for you and funny about potty first .. about 90% of the time the Rads Techs call my name and I am in the bathroom LOL

    phoebe58 - great to hear you are doing well - thanks for sharing

    KarenR - so stinks you are waiting like that .. I experienced issues like that in the beginning and I shared my frustration with my RO and ironically the issue stopped and only happens every once in awhile .. hope it gets better for you

    Jowe - I get pain either sharp or ache in the treated area all the time too .. I think I is inflammation in the tissue

    Just to chime in on the Vitamin/Supplement discussion - first totally agree that it is both amazing and frustrating how much different info we are apparently getting - my RO went thru my med list line by line in my 1st appointment with her .. The only thing I was OK'd to take were Probiotics and Vitamin B .. I would not panic as I really think it comes down to RO's personal preference on things as we have also found on which lotion to use or not use and deodorant etc .. - just my personal opinion - it is definitely frustrating!

    Have a great night - hugs to all! Wishing tomorrow would be here already!!

    Mary

  • Twnkltoz
    Twnkltoz Member Posts: 215
    edited March 2016

    @sunnyone I love the gumballs! I did Dove chocolates.

    I'm getting new spots peeling every day. I'm definitely more comfortable and can sleep on my right side again. My energy is coming back, which is the best part!

  • Moondust
    Moondust Member Posts: 510
    edited March 2016

    Yay, Brimton!!! I'm so happy for you! Did you do anything to celebrate?

    Twinkltoz, hooray for being more comfortable!

    JOWE, I get a pain when I lean over and my breast dangles. My RO said it is probably the scar.

    Mary, good advice about pushing back when doing chemo, so the side effects get taken care of. I'll remember that! I bet you can't wait til tomorrow!

    Sunnyone, I'm doing rads before chemo because I originally decided against chemo, then changed my mind during the first week of radiation. I felt like a had to make a snap decision when presented with my Onco score of 26, and although my MO was noncommittal she seemed to be guiding me towards a no chemo decision because of my Grade 1 tumor with no affected nodes. So I said okay, no chemo. I wish she had said, please go home and think about this a week, then tell me your decision. Because it's a really hard decision to make when you didn't expect your score to be that high. The first week of rads I went hiking by myself and could not stop thinking about all the reasons my tumor got a 26. Fairly low PR% and high Ki67. All of a sudden I realized I needed to do chemo! It felt like a weight was lifted from me, and I told my RO at our next meeting a few days later. He said no big deal, the order of chemo then rads is mostly convention. Except that he is recommending against Adriamycin because it can cause "radiation recall" where your skin becomes red again in the radiated areas.


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