January 2016 Chemo!
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Cathytoo Google 'Hand Foot Syndrome' - I had been having red and irritated fingertips and then a day after my first taxol my fingers started getting a little swollen and irritated like a sunburn.
My oncologist said that it was related to the neuropathy, I don't really understand that but taking steps to heal. Then she said I need to minimize using my hands until it heals, especially with tasks that put a lot of pressure on your hands. I'm using my Google microphone to record this message to haha. You can also wear those cotton gloves that you can get in the manicure section at the drugstore to reduce friction on the irritated skin. She recommended 100 milligrams of vitamin B6 per day and to keep the skin really moisturized with Aquaphor or Udderly smooth.
Good luck and hope it heals up well
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Jill and Frill....beautiful as always!! I am on day 6 after first Taxol and was taking Aleve to help with the bone/muscle pain but woke up in the middle of the night sick...(nausea and vomiting)....didn't expect that to happen in Taxol
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Oh my I reached a new low today! I have been sooooo tired and light headed the past 4 days and today I had an appointment with the plastic surgeon. Well on the way up in the elevator I actually had to sit on the floor! I just couldn't stand any longer😥 My husband ended up getting me a wheel chair! This sucks! How long can this weakness last?!?!
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Cathytoo, I think that can definitely be a sign of neuropathy. I would let your doctor know, as they can sometimes slow infusions or may even say a final infusion is not needed.
I'm four days out from my first Taxol and holy heck am I tired!!! I am sleeping an average of 10 hours a night, plus a nap every day. With previous chemo I was tired as in I had little energy, but I could rest on the couch and be fine being awake. With taxol I'm just plain sleepy! Anyone else feel like they are dragging themselves through the day?
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Yikes, I know everyone is different, but I'm starting to get nervous for Taxol/possibly Carbo! AC wasn't horrible for me, just very tired and some nausea here and there. My doc had told me that I should be able to work through Taxol, which is what I told my employer, now I'm wondering if I should give them a heads up. I see my PA tomorrow, I think I'll see what she has to say and if it's any different than what my MO said.
I do thank you ladies for all the info, and I hope the side effects lessen quickly!
:::hugs:::
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MissBee123 I'm I completed round 10 of Taxol, the last few weekends (on Day 3 or 4) I would be so tired I would sleep for about 4 hours during the day, then go to bed around 9, and actually sleep through the night. But by day 5 (which happens to be today) feel pretty good. It's such an odd feeling, it hits hard, you can't even stay awake, and then goes away as fast as it comes. The last 2 weekends it hit me on Day 4. this weekend it hit me on Day 3. I can't even read, or form a sentence. But it's been predictable. But I don't know if it's the Taxol combined with the steroid crash. I'm thinking the eefects are cumulative, because earlier on it wasn't as drastic. But you went through the AC already, I haven't had that yet, that officially starts 3/31 (and kind of nervous about it.)
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Just saw the bill for the first treatment of Taxol/Herceptin/Perjeta in my hospital account -- $152,630!!! Multiply that by 12 treatments and it's close to 2 million dollars. Seriously?? Thank goodness the bill is going to the insurance company.
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Maya15...OMG..
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Maya, whaaaaat??? I've googled the prices of Taxol/Herceptin/Perjeta and just for the medications they run about $5,000 each, totaling $15k per treatment. Even if you added in a visit with your oncologist, labs, and infusion equipment I can't see how they added $135k to that bill. What is the hospital charging for?!
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Well my last chemo was wed and i am finished with this!! YAYYYYYY! Hadn't been on here in a long while. Been so busy working and when not doing that i sleep lol. Congrats to all others that finished up also. It really wasn't near as bad as i had anticipated but i know it is also very different for everyone. Now on to complete reconstruction and get these awful expanders out! Good luck everyone with tx!!!
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Oh my goodness! I don't pay it, buy my bill shows that each taxotere/herceptin/perjeta is about $25,000. I thought that was outrageous!
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congratulations Robyn!!!! 👍🏻🎉
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After three rounds of chemo and chemo related thrush, I've developed an aversion to all things that I relate to chemo mouth care. Can anyone recommend any other products. I've used Act dry mouth toothpaste, Biotene, Medactive fluoride mouthwash, Thera breath mouthwash, Magic Mouthwash, Nystatin. I chewed ice during the 2nd and 3rd treatments but still ended up with the infection. The ice did help eliminate the sores i received the 1st time. Thanks in advance.
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mltdd Have you heard of "oil pulling" with coconut oil? If you haven't - look it up!
I've been doing that after every chemo treatment and haven't developed any mouth sores. I started doing it after round 2. it's kinda gross the first time but then you get used to it. If you try it, remember to spit it up into paper towels as you don't want to spit it up and clog your drains. I usually rinse after with Biotene.
Good luck
And congratulations to those that have finished treatment - you did it!!!
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Maya15 - $152,630!
I started laughing. OMG, that's the reason people go bankrupt over healthcare.
As some of you know I initially was being treated locally, and before chemo got a second opinion in Boston. I have been brewing over whether to write a blog post comparing the bills that the two locations have sent. They aren't even close for office visits and radiology (Boston being so much cheaper.) I can't compare apples-to-apples since I have been getting chemo in Boston, but eyeballing the similar services (MRIs, ultrasound, office visits, biopsies) it's outrageous and totally depressing. They aren't even close. My SIL who works closely with insurance companies told me urban locations are far more cheaper than more rural locations. I don't live in the sticks, there shouldn't be such a huge discrepancy. So, I might do that when I'm done, we'll see.
Anyway, I hope you call them and ask them to itemize it, because $150k is INSANE!
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Congratulations Robyn!
I thought the AC bills were already outrageous at $40,000 approx per session. Itemized list of charges for my $152,630 first Taxol/HP isn't available yet, but I'm really curious what it's made up of. The breakdown for the AC bills is amazing. Turns out the bone-pain-causing horrible neulasta stick on device cost $23,769 (!) for each one (insurance paid $14K of that, the rest gets written off). No wonder when the device looked like it wasn't working during my last AC session, the pharmacist told the nurse to wait a few minutes and try again, rather than replace it! Then there is the anti-nausea pre-med at $2800, charges per hour of $2600 for "chemo IV infusion" on top of the cost of the drugs. Adriamycin is comparatively cheap at $445 (insurance agreed to pay $0.12 for that, go figure!).
So give it another month and I will have $1 million worth of poison in my veins. How does it feel? Not great.
Yes, this is indeed the reason people go bankrupt over healthcare. It's not like you can sell your house to pay for cancer treatment if you don't have insurance -- it would only cover the cost of one chemo session!
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Maya, looking again online, your hospital is charging approximately 5 times the cost of a neulasta shot. What is wrong with these people?
Congratulations Robyn! So happy you are finished!!!
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CONGRATULATIONS Robyn!
I guess the Neulasta stick on device is a lot more expensive than just a shot, I just do the shot and it's very easy. I don't even know if they have the device in Canada or not
Day 7 after taxotore and I'm definitely seeing the light. I have had a headache today, but I think it's more of a regular run-of-the-mill headache because it's been overcast and rainy, it hasn't been the pounding that I was getting the last few days. The bone pain is almost gone and I got my energy back!
I have read that oil pulling helps with the dry mouth and mouth sores. I haven't tried it but maybe I should, I've done it in the past for other things and liked it. I don't think it could hurt! My gums are getting dry and I'm starting to get mouth sores, just like I did on the last chemo around this time. Magic mouthwash really helps, but man is it vile it makes me want to vomit!
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Congrats Robyn! Good luck with reconstruction.
Looking at my ins. EOB, they were billed almost 26,000 for my first 2 treatments. I thought that was high until I read the previous posts. My first "loading dose" herceptin was $12,091. The second one was $9200. I was told it's priced by the unit at 31.40 per. If I understand the papers correctly when I switch off to every 3 weeks it'll be the $9200 dose. My first neupogen shot was at the infusion center, they billed insurance $500. The other shots were administered by my local hospital, they billed ins. $1400 each. With surgery for port placement and 2 chemos I met my out-of-pocket limit in Jan.
Went to a LGFB session today, if you have the chance to go you should! It was great to feel a little spoiled.
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Robyn...way to go on finishing your treatment!!
Jill...glad you are turning the corner! My doc said that having bad nausea and stomach on day 6 not the Taxol as it would have started day 1 so he thinks I got a bug or overdid the acupuncture a few days ago...said while it's great too much can over stimulate. Hmmm? Hope the next round easier!!
Bills Bills Bills.....this horrible disease not cheap...these prices for some of the drugs are just absurd.
Onward and upward
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DFWFLYGIRL- I also had two days of nausea on day 3 and 4 after the first Taxol. My doctor said that while it's not a usual side effect, everyone reacts differently. She was very attentive and open when I talked about it. We'll see if I get it again this week!
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I can officially say that this fourth round of taxotere and Cytoxan has sucked more in terms of tiredness and body aches. I can't believe I have two more to go :-(. I can't quite remember but I don't think I drank as much water during or after this latest round. Lesson learned.
I had an MRI after the first three rounds and it confirmed some shrinkage of the individual masses and the masses didn't take up the contrast as fast as my first MRI. So that's good news but we we're hoping for more difference. Maybe the next three rounds will do their magic. My mo said it sometimes takes some cancers a little longer to respond.
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Zinny and Sarah_sunflowers, thank you for the condolences.
JCS28- hoping you are feeling better.
Robyn, congratulations on completing chemo. Yeah you did if!! Woo hoo!
Jensgotthis, I am so glad to hear you have shrinkage, this is good news. Hoping next 3 rounds will wipe out the Cancer cells.
I went to the "Look Good Feel Better" program yesterday and received free goodies. I felt like it was Christmas. The program was informative. I've had some acne breakouts since starting Taxol and the esthetician told me not to use Benzol Peroxide products as this dries out the skin and I have sensitive skin due to chemo, she suggested using fresh Aloe Vera and ice chips. I am going to try this and see if it works. I also had my 10th week of Taxol yesterday and the reflexologist gave me the best hand and feet message while on chemo. I am feeling okay today, I gave an appt with my psychiatrist this afternoon and a girls dinner this evening with about 10 of my friends so that should be nice.
For everyone having side effects, I hope symptoms subside. Wishing you all the best. Hugs to you all.
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Maya - I'll chime in on the cost issue as well. I get the Neulasta "pod" and it runs just under 5 grand at my MO. The figures you posted are absolutely criminal, whether any of it gets written off or not.
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Jen-great news on the MRI results. Hoping the remaining treatments knock it out for good!!
Veronica-good to hear I am not the only one and hope its a short lived SE or bug. I like you will be addressing with my MO tomorrow and hope we can avoid it on the next one. Best of luck on your round 2 this week!
Geeper-I need to come to your infusion location.....love the reflexologist option. If only all locations could understand the importance of mind, body and soul recovery
Hope you are having a better week
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Robyn, Congrats.
Jen, glad to hear the MRI looks better. Just because the mass is still there, doesn't mean it is active - could be scarring up and still take up space:)
To those nervous about Taxol - my experience was wicked tired and cranky on day 3, and somewhat tired with sore muscles etc after- but I managed to go skiing today and put in a full day ( Taxol was Thursday, today is Tuesday) so it is not so bad for me! However, my knuckles are turning orange ( weird) and i do have the sensitive fingertip thing going on is spite of B6 and glutamine - thought I have not been diligent with the glutamine- it tastes yucky and makes my stomach sore.
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im finally coming out of my last AC se's (day 7) and im really dreading the taxol/Herceptin/perjeta regimen I start next Friday. All I heard at the beginning of AC was that taxol would be a breeze compared to AC, but over the last few weeks all ive been hearing is about how bad taxol se's are lol.
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That's what I've been hearing too, Buttafly. Not liking what I'm hearing about taxol. The thing is, we don't know who is on a weekly schedule or a dose dense two week schedule.
I'm happy to say that we went on a weekend photo journey at the urging of my photographer friends. There was a high surf advisory for the Oregon coast, so we left on Saturday at noon, drove 8 hours down there and spent several hours on Sunday shooting this:
It was amazing! Water getting catapulted 150-200' into the air! Monday we left there and worked our way north, seeing lighthouses, etc. Came home yesterday. Our dog was happy to see us and boy, did I sleep well!
I did notice that I'm having to work harder to hike up hills. I'm panting and out of breath, going slower. My husband said he forgets that there is anything wrong with me because I am doing so well. He had to stop and wait for me to catch up a few times. We are calling it operating under diminished capacity. :-
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beautiful!
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