Starting Chemo March 2016

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  • bsufan
    bsufan Member Posts: 19
    edited March 2016

    Candy, you and I are pretty much on the same page.  My first chemo was Monday as well and last week pretty much kicked my butt. I didn't feel sick really but by Thursday was extremely exhausted, didn't feel like myself at all, had the weird headaches and really just felt like I was having an out of body experience. I was irritable and mad and so very tired.  Today it's like a did a 360, I feel so much better!  I haven't had the mouth sores or lip problems or the aches/pains that you have described, at least not yet! But I do have 3 stupid pimples, one on my nose and 2 on my neck.  Tomorrow I start back to work. Hopefully back to a bit of normalcy :)

  • azrescue
    azrescue Member Posts: 116
    edited March 2016

    So, it is day 11 post chemo. I feel nearly myself today. I do have some minor tingling in a couple fingertips & some numbness around my lips. I'm hoping and praying that it is temporary. I asked about icing but my MO wasn't really for it. I'm going to ask her about the L-Glutamine and B6.

    Otherwise, I have been enjoying the weekend with my family & for moments forget that I have cancer.


  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2016

    coconut oil works on the lips too. And I got a spray Biotene and kept it in my purse, used the crap out of it.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2016

    Our dentist suggested these XyliMelts. You can use two at night, and one during the day when needed. I tried one one night and it worked wonderfully. It clings to the inside of your gum and slowly disolves, encouraging saliva production. The next day I used one when I had to present for two hours straight and wouldn't be able to stop every 30 seconds and drink water - worked like a charm! One of the side effects, however, can be loose stools (Xylitol is a sugar alcohol).


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  • Phillipians4
    Phillipians4 Member Posts: 21
    edited March 2016

    Italychick what kind of coconut oil do you use? Is it refined or unrefined or does that even matter? I get my first infusion this Thursday and am trying to prepare myself.

    For those planning to work during chemo...I also plan to work full time with only taking a few days off for infusions. I work as an office manager of a small brokerage. I will try to let ya all know how that works out. I also hope to attend my teenage son's high school rodeos this spring... they start April 23rd. This will involve traveling and camping. Thank God we have living quarters to sleep in. My Drs said it should be fine but to be sure I knew of the closest hospital in case I get a fever. They even gave examples of other patients who had done similar events as me andwas just fine. I pray that I can make it to most of his events.

    Veterans - did any of you ever use the wig halos with hats. I have been considering them. Also, I want to stay hydrated during infusions, so am wondering how much ice water I should plan to take with me. I can't stand the taste of the city water.

  • ckfelix79
    ckfelix79 Member Posts: 17
    edited March 2016

    hi there march warriors! I haven't posted in a bit because I had some trouble finding the discission group, as my brain is not fully functioning : ) my her 2 is negative and I'm scheduled for 4 cycles AC every other week and then 12 weeks of T, followed by surgery, then radiation. My MO said if I did not get nausea symptoms during pregnancy this was a good indicator that it should not be a common side effect of chemo, can anyone comment about this? I had port put in on 2/24 no complications and minimal soreness. I do feel like I'm getting a sore throat as of today (4 days post port surgery) I've seen some others post this as a SE just hoping I'm not getting sick :/ I had a question about coconut oil, does this help with hemrhoids? I've had one lingering since I had my daughter almost two years ago and constipation and diarrhea def. Make it worse!! I'm trying to get best tips and start my chemo off being as healthy as possible first cycle on 3/24. I also have a 5 year old son who is very sensitive and concerned about me losing my hair, I don't want to shelter him too much from this process but also do not want to traumatize him, any suggestions on finding a good balance? I have pet scan and echo sched for 3/15. Nervous about long-term heart side effects as my mother died from ASCVD. I'm so thankful firveveryines strength, courage, and advice. Having cancer is rediculous but i know God is always good!

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited March 2016

    ckfelix79, you can click "Add to My Favorite Topics" in threads you want to get back to easily.

    Any coconut oil should help most things (including mouth sores, vaginal dryness, hemorrhoids...). I don't know if refined vs unrefined makes a difference, but I used unrefined, virgin coconut oil.

  • MFPM
    MFPM Member Posts: 69
    edited March 2016

    Phalia, You summed up just how I felt hearing those words.  I don't know how I didn't lose my mind but I also am having a hard time keeping weight on and am underweight to begin with though now it's all nerves.  Please keep in touch and I will do the same.  What will you be getting?

  • HolaSandy
    HolaSandy Member Posts: 85
    edited March 2016

    ckfelix,

    My chemo nurse also told me that pregnancy symptoms might be a good indicator of chemo side effects. I had terrible heartburn and moderate nausea throughout pregnancy and so far has been about the same after my first chemo infusion on Friday. I have pretty much been taking ranitidine and maxeran on schedule to control these SEs and it hasn't been unbearable.

    As for your son, would it help him if he assisted pick out hats or a wig with you? My daughter is only 2 and I thought she would be so traumatized by my new short hair cut but she didn't even care. Kids are so resilient and I'm sure your son will adjust quickly. Take care

  • Jonsey22
    Jonsey22 Member Posts: 100
    edited March 2016

    Okay funny story before I head off to bed. My husband suggests that I put Polysporin on my lips and pimply things so I do as I am getting ready for bed. I start freaking out because my lips are tingling and numb. I look at the label and there is a pain reliever in my Polysporin (a numbing agent). We had a good laugh.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2016

    I don't think it matters if the coconut oil is refined or unrefined. Try to get organic unrefined if you can, but I think it should work either way. In California, our Costco warehouse stores carry it in big tubs, but not sure if you have those there. If you can't find it locally, there is always Amazon.

    Yes, coconut oil definitely helps with hemorrhoids. And be aware if you have hemorrhoids (as I do from childbirths), you may have some slight anal bleeding, so don't panic. I had some after a couple of chemo infusions, but it resolved. If you have chronic pain, do get it checked out as a few women on our March 2015 chemo forum developed anal fissures. Be gentle wiping down there, maybe get some wipes. Keeping your poop soft helps. I never took stool softener, but relied on magnesium to get the job done.

    So far, I think I have recommended coconut oil, magnesium (for pooping and leg cramps, etc.) and watch your potassium levels. I think the MO routinely monitors the potassium level, but magnesium is more tricky to monitor. Try to keep an antibiotic (strong one) on hand for random things like bee stings, bug bites, etc.

    Head sores (called folliculitis) can be dealt with by a topical antibiotic a doctor can prescribe, such as Clindamycin, but coconut oil helps with those too. Also use it on gums, just smear a tiny bit in your mouth.

    I also figured out that some of my foot neuropathy was actually sensitivity to dryness and cold, and keeping shoes and socks on and lotioning up my feet and wearing socks helped.

    For digestive issues, get Pepcid ac or something similar, it really helps.

    For nausea, eat small bites of food randomly. I didn't have to take anti nausea medication other than what I was given on infusion days, and I think keeping something in the stomach helps a ton, like a few crackers, some chicken broth, yogurt, etc. the probiotics in yogurt or kefir help a ton.

    Any exercise you can do, even gentle walking, really helps out a lot.

    Sorry to be so wordy, and ignore my posts if they are annoying. I am crossing my fingers you all come through chemo in great shape

  • Arobedw
    Arobedw Member Posts: 5
    edited March 2016

    786tex yes I've had horrible migraines. Sent for MRI to make sure cancer didn't spread to brain. Negative results- thankfully. As a young teenager I had bad migraines and since starting chemo March 2 they are back. Had to make an appointment with neurologist and he has me on migraine medicine. The other problem is a rash on my chest , back and now my face. They look like hives and acne. Ugh!

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited March 2016

    I'll add to Theresa's post that it's good to have all of this on hand, and you might not need it (so you could donate it afterward). I had no mouth sores, little gastric distress (and it was related to the port, not the chemo), no nausea, no diarrhea or constipation, no hemorrhoids, and only a little foot neuropathy.

  • Sheri64
    Sheri64 Member Posts: 113
    edited March 2016

    Hi Ladies jumping in from the January chemo group.  Make should to call your local ACS for a free wig and to sign up for their look good feel better class, they show you how to do your make up and you get some great full size products. Also get to meet some great ladies going through what you are.

  • Pammac47
    Pammac47 Member Posts: 128
    edited March 2016

    NancyHB and all

    I can't thank you all enough for the tips and I have made a list of supplies to add to shopping. I was told to use tea tree oil on nails daily but my onc nurse. I have never tried coconut oil but will get and use. I use hemorhoids cream already and will get wipes.

    Nancy

    I did not realize till going back through you had such a problem with port and I am so sorry to hear that. I hope you contacted doctor and that has resolved. That is certainly not normal. And I'm really sorry you have to be here again, but find your info valuable.

    Thank you all for posting great tips to help us!! Some of these I did not think about or have on my list and I really appreciate the heads up going forward

  • khullen
    khullen Member Posts: 1
    edited March 2016

    How do I join this group? Im brand new to this site, starting chemo this month. Im 34, IDC 12/2015. ER+, PR+, HER2 -. S/p bilat masectomy with beginning of reconstruction Feb 4th. Please advise, I am excited to have the support ❤

  • WannaCruize
    WannaCruize Member Posts: 66
    edited March 2016

    Well, by posting here, you just joined. Welcome. If you use the link to Add to My Favorite Topics, it will place a marker for this thread so you can easily find it and will take you to your first unread post.

    There are lots of good hints and tips for getting through chemo here, so I would suggest going to the beginning of the thread and read the past posts. That will really help you see what might be helpful for you. Also, once you know what actual chemo drugs you will be given, go ahead and post those, so everyone who is getting the same 'cocktail' can chime in with more specifics.

    I saw this on Facebook and thought I'd post it here.

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  • Nina27
    Nina27 Member Posts: 77
    edited March 2016

    I spoke with my oncologist today and she wants to start chemo next week... Not sure of the types yet thoug

  • dmp1960
    dmp1960 Member Posts: 18
    edited March 2016

    Well said Wanna Cruize!

    I was diagnosed in February and will be starting chemo (TC) on Friday, 3/18. Soooo nervous. I am trying to go out an get the things/meds I may need during treatment. Any ideas are welcome :)

    Was also wondering if anyone has tried Biotin to help with hair loss during chemo?? I know I will lose the hair on my head but was hoping to maybe keep eyelashes/brows, etc?? What brand/dosage is safe? Also wondering about tea tree oil for my nails? Does it work? Any good brands recommended? Any other suggestions? Thanks for the input!! Many hugs to all........

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited March 2016

    I used Thursday Plantation Tea Tree Solution for Nails, topping it with a light moisturizer after it dried. I had a little toenail lifting but they and my fingernails were only minimally cruddy and none fell off. Since the chemo-affected parts of my big toenails are still growing out, I'm still using it if I'm going to be somewhere like changing at a gym where the risk of fungal infection is higher.

  • Loretta_J
    Loretta_J Member Posts: 67
    edited March 2016

    Italychick. Your posts are ever so helpful and never annoying. Love them. 

  • Loretta_J
    Loretta_J Member Posts: 67
    edited March 2016

    I agree with calling or asking your care coordinator to refer you to the American Cancer Look Good Feel Good class it is two hours of instructions and encouragement. I went this morning and the ladies were wonderful. The makeup kits are outstanding. 

  • Logang
    Logang Member Posts: 421
    edited March 2016

    I'm checking in on day 4 of round one of AC. My day 3 has been the worse so far. Thank goodness it was a Sunday. I slept more than I was awake and still went to bed by 1030 last night and slept all night. I had a lot of pain and discomfort in my lower abdomen (gas maybe?) Think I will get some gas-x before round 2. I went to work today and the only issues I had were tiredness and shakiness. My boss let me go home and nap and then I finished my patient charting at home.

    Hope everyone is doing well!

  • ckfelix79
    ckfelix79 Member Posts: 17
    edited March 2016

    thanks holasandy for the advice with my son, I'll give anything a try :) it looks like we have similar diagnoses. I'll be checking in with you!

    Italy chick I agree with loretta your advice is so helpful, I truly appreciate the info and quick responses from you :) have you taken any good supplements/vitamins to help with SE?

    Wannacruze love that post, it so true and just what I needed!!!

    Khullen you are on and we are here to support you! There are lots of posts on here since the beginning if this month that are super helpful and encouraging!! Welcome to the group!

    Welcome everyone glad we can come here to share and support each through this BC journey!

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2016

    ckfelix79, the supplement issue is a tough one. I was paranoid about antioxidants so for about 3-4 days before an infusion and a week after, I cut out antioxidants. Other than that timeframe, I took D3, K2 (those supposedly help with bone pain and aid with breast health), coq10 to protect my heart, milk thistle and n-acetyl cysteine for my liver, Benfotiamine B1 for neuropathy, biotin, B-12 (chemo really depleted my B-12 level), fish oil for inflammation. Tons of magnesium all the time since it doesn't appear to have an antioxidant effect and helped with so much, pooping, leg pain, heart health, sleeping.

    Other things to have on hand were Imodium, Pepcid ac or something similar for gastrointestinal issues, Advil, Aleve, Tylenol, Advil or Tylenol pm (worked great for anxious nights, knocked me right out, I learned 1 worked as well as 2) Benadryl, Biotene mouthwash and spray, Claritin for bone pain and allergic reactions. I also had Valium, oxycodone and a powerful antibiotic. And the magic coconut oil for everything. I did magnesium or Epsom salts bath soaks quite a bit. Don't know if they helped, but they were sure relaxing. I used tea tree oil soap and dove sensitive body wash. Clindamycin for folliculitis which I got, ugh. Eye drops everywhere, at home, by my bed, in my purse, at work. Zofran and compazine for nausea which I never had to use thank goodness.

    Having said all of the above, a lot of the over the counter remedies and pain relievers didn't get used.

    And I ate whatever was soothing and tasted the best, chemo is no time to be strict on food in my opinion. Although some people did do fasting concurrent with chemo, but I couldn't bring myself to fast.

    One thing that also helped me was Vicks both nasally and rubbed on my feet. I think because it is Vaseline based it stayed on my feet well, but aquaphor may work just as well.

    My motto was prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

    10 months post chemo, it is all just a slightly unpleasant memory, thankfully it appears that humans have the capacity to forget how bad something really was.

    And exercise, even light walking, really helps.

    And report everything, no matter how small it might seem, to your chemo team, they have heard it all and can really help with side effects.

  • Jonsey22
    Jonsey22 Member Posts: 100
    edited March 2016

    Welcome to new members!

    I checked today with my nurse and Claritin is okay with TC chemo. Yay! I couldn't bear the muscle pain and it makes everything so much better.

    Skin issues still a struggle today. Don't want to go in public with rashes and pimples everywhere.

    Hair going tomorrow. A bit nervous. Already feeling rather ugly. At least the new wig and hats will help.

    Hope you are all having a more comfortable day than me.

    Candy

  • Jonsey22
    Jonsey22 Member Posts: 100
    edited March 2016

    One more question. This is the first time I have heard about concurrent fasting. Any idea what the reasons are for that?

  • HRwinter16
    HRwinter16 Member Posts: 73
    edited March 2016

    welcome newcomers!

    Sending good vibes and love!

    Italychick I love your tips too -thank you, going to look for that Biotene spray.

    Philippians - bring at least a liter of water or fluids - I've been drinking "vitamin water zero" and "bai" infused waters - I stocked up so much I have a whole stash next to the kitchen sink, my daughter thinks it's hysterical but I call it our "hydration station" LOL

    I'm having really dry lips and mouth more so than first few days - My mouth constantly feels as if I've eaten a whole bunch of salty chips or something (I wish! That and a margarita) but I haven't! Need to hydrate so much but then of course I'm peeing constantly.

    Good luck to everyone...

    Anyone else applied for intermittent leave when back to work?

    Xo

    Heidi

  • isnogard
    isnogard Member Posts: 34
    edited March 2016

    Well, tomorrow is #2 infusion. The first one wasn't so bad except for nausea the first 4 days and a little bit after. By day 7 I was normal again with a little fatigue. Took many naps throughout the day. Stopped using Biotin four days in because it caused my tongue to get sore with all that moisture. My mouth has not dried out so I stopped using it. The white blood count shots were scary at first but I got semi used to them. Had a few aches from it at night but nothing an Advil didn't fix. No other side effects to report. I hope the next infusion is the same as this one I don't want surprises. Hair is starting to fall out. Tied my hair in a ponytail and some hair came out. This past weekend got a sore throat and a fluctuating temp. Been monitoring the temp and let my MO know last night. Crossing fingers my white blood count is good and that this slight sickness doesn't hinder the infusion. Good luck to those getting #2 tomorrow and throughout the next few weeks. :)))

    Update: Just looked in the mirror and have small pimples everywhere! Where did they come from?!

  • SueH58
    SueH58 Member Posts: 632
    edited March 2016

    Jonsey - a PICC line is a line that goes through your arm as opposed as thru your chest. So glad that things are looking good for you, and that your treatments will be relatively uneventful.

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