Starting Chemo March 2016

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  • anniekaja11
    anniekaja11 Member Posts: 140
    edited March 2016

    Hi everyone -

    I'm new on this thread. I will be starting the TCH regime mid-April. I had the port put in when they did a small re-exciicion (tiny area from my lumpectomy that had very close margins. That was Wednesday and I'm still having pain at the port. I was wondering if you could share about how your port placement procedure went. I guess I had read a few accounts that there was no pain after a day so I expected that :)

    I love all the support and encouragement here. I'm very upset about having to do Chemo but the horrors I imagined have been laid to rest from reading about so many women continuing to work through it. I will have six rounds of chemo + perception. Once every three weeks. Then 11 rounds of just the Hercpetin. I too am very nervous about the long term side effects especially, I don't want anything to mess up my heart and Herceptin can do that. I've met about 8 women on these boards with the exact pathology I have who managed to work through the TCH. THAT is my inspiration. I have some flexibility at work to take naps in my private office too.

    At my job, we get training days and can do at home video trainings so I am going to set that up while I'm doing the first 6 rounds. I just started my new job in November and I don't have much leave.

    I LOVED what you said about things people say - my husband does this, telling me stories about his sister who just died. I've yelled at him a couple of times so I think he'll stop. I have not and do not plan to tell anyone at work and he doesn't get that. But its my choice. I am going to do the Penguin cold caps or at least try to in order to keep my hair. Anyone do that?

    Thanks,

    Annie

  • BKGameGirl
    BKGameGirl Member Posts: 38
    edited March 2016

    Annie, Scroll up a couple of posts from today, I just posted some details about my port placement.

  • Cin54
    Cin54 Member Posts: 13
    edited March 2016

    I would like to be a part of this. Diagnosed 1/8/16. Lumpectomy and starting chemo on 3/14. AC-T

  • MFPM
    MFPM Member Posts: 69
    edited March 2016

    Ellie Surf, Thank you so much for replying and comparing, very similar.  I'm so shocked and afraid but I'm glad to hear from others who understand.  I wish you much luck and hope we can keep in touch.  I will keep you and everyone posted as I go along.

  • Loretta_J
    Loretta_J Member Posts: 67
    edited March 2016

    I had some pain and soreness from my port for a week. It is much better now. I am doing 6 rounds of Perjeta and a whole year of Herceptin in 3 week cycles. I had my first infusion of those yesterday plus Carboplatin and Taxatere. I had no problems and today feel no side effects. 

    Welcome aboard. 

  • Loretta_J
    Loretta_J Member Posts: 67
    edited March 2016

    Welcome. God bless and you will get lots of support here. 

  • anniekaja11
    anniekaja11 Member Posts: 140
    edited March 2016

    BKGameGirl - Found your post, thank you. I guess its good I went in naive as I would have postponed it. My neck and shoulder feel "weird" along with pain around the port. Oh and the TAPE the TAPE the TAAAAAPPPEEEE...

    LorettaJ - thanks for sharing about your port healing, I can do a week. Hey, looks like we have some of the same pathology...I'll be TC+H for 6 rounds and then 11 rounds of just Herceptin - a year. I'm so glad that your first infusion went so well. How long did it take?

    I totally related about the horrible surprises! I've heard from others that once treatment is underway, its better. I'm so encouraged to hear women doing their regimes and feeling okay.

    Annie


  • Cin54
    Cin54 Member Posts: 13
    edited March 2016

    Thanks, I thought they must have installed the port upside down or something horribly went wrong in order to have that much pain. These are the 2 am ruminations that are utterly ridiculous in the daylight. The pain is better now. I had my head buzzed today because I want to call the shots (at least a little) and found that the result was not so bad. Spoiled myself by ordering some cool headgear...

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited March 2016

    Cool headgear is awesome. What did you get?

  • Loretta_J
    Loretta_J Member Posts: 67
    edited March 2016

    Annie - my first infusions took 7 hours. They started with Pepcid, then Benadryl, then the steroid. Then they infused them  one at a time to make sure of what I might be alergic too. They also start them out slow but if you have no reaction speed them up. It should be around 6 hours next time for the premeds and the four chemo drugs. 

    I had no reactions and slept well last night and no side effects except from the Dexamethasone. I am a type 1 diabetics and steroids run my blood sugars sky high. But no nausea, vomiting, or pain so far. 

    There is no pain with port during the infusion process. I never felt the needle go in or come out.  

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2016

    I'm at the point in the chemo cycle called nadir, where the blood levels decrease, and risk of infection rises. Tonight I discovered that a small area of my SNB incision has opened up, and is now red and sort of oozy. No fever at this point but I'm wondering the best way to handle this infection - hit the walk-in clinic tomorrow or wait until Monday and call the surgeon? My MO only wants a call from me if my fever hits 100.5, and it's actually sub-normal right now. Maybe I'll wait until morning and see how it looks. Any thoughts?

  • Cin54
    Cin54 Member Posts: 13
    edited March 2016

    Website is called "Hello Courage". I got 3 different colored slouchys, a couple of black & white printed caps with bows, a colorful teal and maroon swirly hat, 4" headbands, a very pretty red printed scarf and 3 sleep caps. I heard the sleep caps may be needed and given the fact that my cat likes to nest near my head they very well may be good protection. I am not normally bothered much by the cold but have found that my head does get a bit chilled. I'll be making my public debut at a birthday party tomorrow! Never have been a hat person so this is a little strange and, yes, fun!

  • HRwinter16
    HRwinter16 Member Posts: 73
    edited March 2016

    BK gamegirl, thanks for the hat website!

    Welcome Cin54 and MFPM, and Welcome Marilyn - hope all is well. My cancer was also one cm tumor and lymph nodes clear, but my oncotype was *36* so chemo had to come in to the picture.

    Jonesy, Im glad the headaches are gone... I've been trying to stay super hydrated bc I get migraines and headaches easily but so far it's been ok.

    Italychick, thank you for the reminder about the electrolytes. I've been having leg cramps and restlessness and I think that might help.

    Who is else is working full time? I'm headed back Monday and so nervous

  • HRwinter16
    HRwinter16 Member Posts: 73
    edited March 2016

    Nancy, call now for peace of mind!

    Annie, welcome ;)

  • HolaSandy
    HolaSandy Member Posts: 85
    edited March 2016

    Nancy, please do not wait too long to get your incision checked out. Red and oozy are not usually good. Does it feel warm around the incision as well? Please keep us informed as to how you make out with it. I would suggest going to the walk-in clinic and do not wait to call your surgeon on Monday.

    I am on my day 2 now and still feeling ok. Getting chills tonight and flushed face. Fatigue is settling in too. I had a big day today and cut my hair short! Eep! It's been very long for a long time so it's definitely a change, but not as emotional as I expected so that's good.

    Welcome to our team, newcomers. Sending out love and positive vibes to everyone tonight!

  • WannaCruize
    WannaCruize Member Posts: 66
    edited March 2016

    Nancy, I think absent a fever or red streaks from the incision, you may be ok to wait until morning. If your medical plan has an urgent clinic, you may want to go there tomorrow. Definitely if you spike a fever (100.5 for 1hr+ or anything over101), you're supposed to head to the ER immediately.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2016

    Nancy did you get the Neulasta shot? A white blood cell count done? Is the fluid clear? My sentinel node opened up too during chemo and some reddish clear fluid came out. I think I had an undissolved stitch. It didn't get infected, but I got Neulasta and my white blood cell count and neutrophils stayed high. Definitely watch it and don't mess around. If your white blood cell count is low, you don't have the ability to fight an infection

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited March 2016

    Nancy, call. Fevers are anticipated and therefore named as a reason to call, incisions opening are not expected--so call!

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2016

    good morning and thank you everyone for the suggestions. I wondered if perhaps it was a seroma draining, but the pain is far worse this morning, and now the area is swelling. Still no fever to report though (my hope is the Neulasta is doing its job!). I'm thinking about calling my surgeon to get his opinion. My husband pointed out that a walk-in clinic would probably direct me to do that anyway. And the surgeon's discharge instructions do say to call him if something like this happens. I'll at least wait until he wakes up a little. Thanks for helping me realize I shouldn't ignore this. I'll let you know what happens. It's surprising to me it's taken four weeks for something like this to happen.

    Have a wonderful day everyone!

  • Jonsey22
    Jonsey22 Member Posts: 100
    edited March 2016

    Good idea to call the surgeon Nancy. I think it would be best for what it is worth.

    Ladies, I did an interesting experiment last night. I don't get the Neulasta shot (they only do that here if you counts sink too low). I had, however really bad back muscle and bone pain - it was so uncomfortable I was pacing and rocking. I decided, being Saturday and all, that since I couldn't get a hold of anyone, I would try a Claritin. I read all over the place that it helps with the Neulasta shot and some mentioned on just muscle and back pain. At first I thought it wasn't going to do anything because it wasn't better after about a half an hour, but slowly over the next hour or two, the pain let up. It has been there continuously since the infusion so it was very noticeable. I have no idea why it works, but I will be talking to my team Monday about it. I am going to wait for the 24 hours for the Claritin to wear off now and see if the muscle pain starts to return. I am thinking it will about 6 tonight. I will let you all know in case this is a symptom you are having. Hope I don't get in crap from my team on Monday. I didn't ask if I could take it. I was at the "I don't care" point of pain at that moment.

    I have noticed some numbness/tingling in my fingers and "cold feet". I didn't ice (I never could have given the docetaxel took over 4 hours to administer with the stops and starts). It isn't so bad as I thought it would be. Not completely numb, just lost some feeling and maybe strength in my hands. Still type fine lol

    Still struggling with GI issues. I guess it is going to my issue through this - bowels. I am trying to figure it out. Glad I don't have to go out much if I don't want to.

    Getting my head shaved and picking up the wig Tuesday. I will post something.

    Welcome to the new ladies. I hope you find some of the answers and advice you need. This forum is great.

    Have a terrific Sunday,

    Candy

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited March 2016

    Nancy and others, I kept an antibiotic prescription filled all during chemo. I got it from my primary Doctor, but worth asking either your primary, MO, or breast surgeon. It came in handy for me because during chemo I got stung by a bee and the MO wanted me to immediately start taking an antibiotic, and having it on hand saved me a trip to the emergency room. I got Keflex, because I am allergic to Cipro.

    Just something to think about and maybe get to keep in your home tool kit.

    Nancy, hope everything comes out okay. Will be thinking about you today

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2016

    Great idea ItalyChick. I called my surgeon who prescribed some Keflex, and to call his office Tuesday to schedule a follow-up appointment. He didn't seem concerned, even with the fever so I guess I needn't worry.

  • Pammac47
    Pammac47 Member Posts: 128
    edited March 2016

    NancyHB,

    I too will be starting chemo this month 3/22/2016, getting port installed the 18th. It will be AC to start every two weeks for 4cycles then Taxol. I still have Met testing to go, but this will be treatment plan regardless. I have decided to also do 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide as well. Best wishes to all of us!! I will post diagnosis after the mets testing is complete as my entire staging is clinical no surgery will be done til after chemo and I've moved through stages, so I've just waited til it's finally know

  • Seashine
    Seashine Member Posts: 24
    edited March 2016

    I start TCHP pre-surgery on 3/23. I am nervous about SE. My MO says I should not read what others go through, but that is so hard! I want to know what to expect. Please just let this work!!!! I am ER+, PR-, and HER2

  • BKGameGirl
    BKGameGirl Member Posts: 38
    edited March 2016

    Seashine, I couldn't agree more with your MO. I use this board as complementary to my doctors. I stay away from random stuff on the internet. If I read up on things without context, it is both scary and unhelpful.

    - I had a 2-hour specifically-tailored 1-on-1 chemo education session with my physicians assistant at the MO. Took my specific regimen, my timing, my existing lifestyle and my exact health profile into a very specific, individual discussion on how to proactively and reactively manage side effects. This is my reference for everything.

    - I follow every order to the letter as far as diet, activity, supporting medications. I have had great success so far doing this, and don't see a reason to go rogue on my medical team. I have learned that speaking up about side effects is key.

    - research here when something comes up that seems complementary. Example: I had a tender bum after week 1 and wondered how others dealt with that. I got some great complimentary suggestions, in fact, coconut oil has changed my entire outlook on dry skin and sore bum!

    Good luck!!!



  • phaila
    phaila Member Posts: 279
    edited March 2016

    hi Marylyn, my diagnosis was almost carbon copy of yours. Was told I would need radiation and hormones then my oncologydx came back at 47!! Wtf??! Now I need freakin chemo and I'm shitting bricks BIG TIME. I'm so scared I lost 20 pounds in last 2.5 weeks:(

    I start on Friday and I'm so scared I can't see straight:((((;

  • Myraknits
    Myraknits Member Posts: 264
    edited March 2016

    Seashine, I started TCHP in Feb and as far as side effects, all I can encourage you to do is address that as soon as they come up, no matter what they are. Round 1 for me was horrible. I let everything get bad befor I finally went back to the doc for meds. Round 2 was last Friday and I'm happy to report I'm already almost back to normal! As soon as I got a twinge of nausea I took a pill...at the first sign of headache, I took something...thrush, same thing. Treated it right away. As my MO reminded me...this is not the time to tough it out. There's a pill for everything!

    I have the same diagnoses and there's so much incredible news about TCHP working wonders! There was a study this week from England that said they're seeing tumor shrinkage in the first 11 days. I went to see my surgeon this week and she said my tumor, once about 1.5" is now almost undetectable by touch! It's a tough road but it's worth it!

  • Jonsey22
    Jonsey22 Member Posts: 100
    edited March 2016

    Skin issues and tips anyone? My lips and the corners of my mouth are burning. Oozy pimples showing up everywhere. Not sure what to do besides putting Vaseline on them.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2016

    Candy, I had the same problem with my lips a few days ago. I carry Nivea lip balm everywhere, use it all the time. Vaseline will work too I"m sure. I felt like it was the tail end of the mouth sores/issues for me. Yesterday my lips felt someone normal again. Funny you mention the oozing pimples, I've got three of them! Haven't had a pimple in years. I'm not sure what to do about those, sorry.

  • NancyHB
    NancyHB Member Posts: 1,512
    edited March 2016

    Just as an aside, HelloCourage.com was created by Denise, a BCO member and dear friend. She and I were part of the same chemo group four years ago. She writes a blog for an online health organization, and started the online store because we all complained we couldn't find headwear that we liked. :-) She's pretty terrific, and very reputable. Thanks for sharing the resource, Cin!

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