When to have port removed?
I am wondering how long after treatment did you wait to have your port removed? I have been insanely nervous since my treatments have ended because I do not go a day without pain. I have expressed my concerns to my oncologist and many times it is blown off and I am made to feel stupid or like a hypochondriac.
I have had 0 scans - my oncologist believes that it will cause more worry than anything. After my main tumor was removed by lumpectomy, my margins weren't clear. My surgeon suggested an MRI which detects two other tumors on myBC side and a fibroadenoma on the left. I also had lymph node involvement, that they never suspected due to the nodes not being palpable. i had a umx, and had tissue expanders placed. Now I'm waiting for reconstruction.Long story short, I have a mammogram and possibly other imaging in May. Should I wait to have my port removed till after those appointments? Would reconstruction be possible with a port?
Please help! I'm not sure what to do!
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Hi, nsweeney. Yes, recon can be done with a port in place. I had mine placed in December 2011 and removed during DIEP reconstruction in April 2013. It seems to be a very individualized decision. Some of us want it out the day after chemo ends; others are ok with keeping it in for years.
Is your port causing you pain, or is it something else? And wow...if your onc makes you feel stupid or like a hypochondriac, it might be time to have an honest conversation with him/her or find another onc who will listen to you.
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Hi nsweaney43, my oncologist wanted me to keep my port for two years after the completion of chemo - in case there is a recurrence. I finally got it removed in the summer of 2015 which was a bit sooner than two years but not until a significant amount of time has passed since completion of systemic treatment. The port didn't bother me - physically or psychologically - but I had to go to the hospital and get it flushed regularly. Ultimately, whether to take it out or keep it in for now is your decision, worst case scenario they can always put it back.
I would certainly wait till your appointments in May and discuss this with your oncologist.
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I'm going to keep mine for at least 2 years after treatment since onc says she's going to follow me more closely during this time. I don't know if a port can be placed again in the same spot once it's taken out. I read somewhere it can't. If this is true, since I had lymph nodes taken out, I would not want it to be placed on the left side of my chest (tumour was on the left). They say don't mess with the arm the side where lymph nodes were taken out but my bs said it applies to the chest and abdomen area of that side as well. So when I was getting neulasta shot, I had them inject it on the right side of my stomach. Can't hurt to be extra cautious. Getting it flushed monthly isn't a big deal to me, and I don't even know the port is there.
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A port does not have to be removed ever - unless something weird happens. It does have to be flushed every 6 - 8 weeks though.
My port has been in for 6 1/2yrs and there are no plans for it to be removed. According to all my Drs it makes a lot more sense to keep it in (and maintained) "just in case". IF (according to my Surgeon), another one was needed, it would have to be placed in arm or leg - don't want that! So my little Soldier (port) stands guard with his M16 at ready to keep the Monster from raising it's ugly head again. If the Monster does try - 'Soldier' is there and ready for the battle, doesn't have to get back in another place (after some time) to wage the battle. I know that is a bit of a juvenile way of visualizing but makes 'sense' to me.
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I had my BMX and reconstruction with the port in place...no problems. I still have it (just finished Herceptin last month.) Nobody said anything to me about getting it flushed! Yikes! I'm trying to get it removed now. Called my BS office (switched insurance so now she isn't *in network) so I wanted to know the cost of this procedure...no return call. So I called my plastic surgeon's office to see if he could remove it. Finally found out yes, with a note from my MO. Waiting for them to call and schedule that!
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Loriekg - I don't know what you are envisioning a flush is like but it is no big deal at all. Basically nothing different than is done before and after each infusion or access (if yours is used for blood draws). It is accessed and draw back to be sure there is blood flow. Then saline is injected to clear the last heparin block. Then a new heparin block is injected to prevent clotting. This needs to be done every 6 - 8 weeks. This is basically the same thing done every time it is accessed for Chemo - check for return flow, saline to push old heparin out, Chemo/use, after use saline to flush the last of 'whatever' and then a heparin block reestablished to prevent clotting. While in active TX - flushes are just a part of the TX done - after active TX then flushes have to be done.
Does that make anything clearer?
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I feel like Kicks, it's there to keep it from coming back. I usually make a finger cross like to keep vampires away. I don't want it out. A bit of an inconvenience getting it flushed, but easier than getting it out, then possibly back. And where they going to put it? Not on the rads side. It's in a good spot now.
And each time you got chemo, this was done. For a flush, freeze spray, breathe, done. About 2 min.
My new MO supports me keeping it since I was soooooo close to stage4
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I'm a member of the umbrella club too. In other words it's my "umbrella" and everybody knows it doesn't rain when you have your umbrella with you! LOL!
As a matter of fact, I don't let them use my left side for draws as i have had 7 operations on that side for failed implants. In an out, repeat. LOL. So for my knee replacement surgery, they were happy to use my port when they couldn't get a good IV in. So I'm thinking it should stay for a long time. I'm 4 plus years from BMX. I've had a lot f Scenic Detours on my Journey and needed IVs for more than a year past the BMX. I also just this year moved to 4 month visits with my MO. Before this it was 3 months. Guess he was being extra careful. So it's easy to get it flushed. The MO nurse flushes it and it's about 5 min. In and out.
Much love
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For chemo, I/they used the numbing/freezing spray but in the years since, I've had generic EMLA (lidocaine cream) and put a dab on port and cover with a little 'Saran wrap' square over it so doesn't get on clothes and holds it on site. By the time I drive to get it flushed, it is totally numb so feel nothing. As Spookiesmom said, it is basically nothing different than is done at each infusion - except there is no Chemo infused.
I'm IBC so there is always a 'good' chance of recurrance/mets ('average' odds - 1 of 4 make it to 5 yrs post DX - I'm 6 1/2 yrs and still NED).
Last week, I had my 6 mth appt with my PA, unfortunately something came up and she wasn't there but I saw her Supervisior and he said that he too agreed that the smartest thing is to keep port where it is as a 'just in case' and he so wished more would.
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Moonflosr912 - I like the visual of Umbrella and for most would make more sense that my little soldier makes to me. But then, most aren't 'old WACs like me. Visuals that individually make sense to each are good but do need to be personal.
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Recurrence doesn't always mean infusion chemo though...
I kept mine in for superstition sake, but since I ended up with brain mets, and oral chemo seems to cross the blood brain barrier the best, who knows if and when I'll have infusion chemo again.
It is nice to have for blood draws though. I don't think I would've been inclined to keep mine if it had been a pain to get flushed. But during my short period of NED I was at the cancer center every four weeks for Zoladex so I just had them flush it then
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Certainly not all chemos are IV but for the ones that are - it's best not to have to have another port implanted 'somewhere else' if needed.I have great veins so it's a whole easier to just hit the vein rather than using port thus necessating a flush which requires a trained RN, not a 'blood tech'. I have only had on. blood draw via my port and that was only because I had a draw scheduled on the same day as a flush so RN just did the draw when she did the flush.
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It's been a while, so I can't remember the details, but I think I got mine out about a year after treatment. My oncologist had me keep it in a while because I had some lingering treatment complications. I play soccer and basketball, so it was definitely a hassle having it in. I did ask about what if I needed one again, and was told it couldn't go in exactly the same place because scarring would make that difficult but they could just put it on the other side.
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We all have different diagnosis and different recurrence risks. I think the decision to remove or not to remove should be discussed with the oncologist but ultimately, it's the patient's choice. Keeping it in just because one may recur five or ten years down the road does impact the mood, adds to the number of appointments that we already have and to the cost. Not to speak about the fact that sports, swimming, etc may be a bit more complicated than they should be. Same with travel - I had to schedule it around my flushing appointments while I had it in.
I think most oncologists recommend removing after two years if no recurrences or especially high risk.
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I've had mine for close to six years now. It's been used several times since chemo for other surgeries and blood draws, and I get it flushed every 8 weeks. I can go on my way to work and it only takes a few minutes.
I saw a new MO last year who suggested I may want to have it removed since I am on Tamoxifen, and Tamoxifen is associated with venous blood clots, and that is also the fear with having ports for a long period of time. I'm still thinking about it, but now I make sure I have it flushed before I take a long plane trip.
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After a couple of bouts of cellulitis my team thought my port had probably become seeded with bacteria somehow and had introduced bacteria into my system. It started when I developed a high fever and shaking chills immediately following a port flush. The risk for contamination is very low, because of the method it's placed under the skin, but any foreign object can become a focus of bacterial collection.
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I got mine out less than three weeks after my last chemo.
I decided I would not live like the cancer would come back.
I'm now three years out.
My onc did not agree but he conceded
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My port was always uncomfortable or painful. I had it out a few weeks after last chemo. I wasn't going to live in pain just in case.
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Mine got more painful as time went by. I started having shooting pains and pinching feelings and was told it was probably irritating the nerves around it. Plus, like someone else said, I didn't want to live like I expected the cancer to come back.
So, exactly 5 weeks post chemo, adios to the port! O happy day.
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I had mine out about a year after treatment. I figured I was definitely at a high risk to recur. But my port bothered me. Not only from a physical perspective (I was aware of it, it did not nessecarily hurt...) but also from an emotional perspective. I hated going to the ward to get it flushed, it was like going to see the oncologist, which always stressed me out. I can never forget but some things I really want to fade away
It is definitely a personal choice and I certainly see why people hold on to them. Good luck with your decision.
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I'm glad I poked around in here. This is a good question. My boss told me that he wished that he had left his in longer. I have tiny veins, and now that I truly have one accessible arm because of the lymph node removal, I really won't rush to have this little thingy taken out, no matter how much grief it is to access!
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I could hardly wait to have my port removed. Strangely enough, the Chemo treatments, especially the AC made me really irritated about the port. In fact when i was in the hospital with PCP pneumonia, I refused to let them access my port for a few days, until the poking in every other vein made me relent. (It really was better that way). By the time my radiation was over I wasn't so bothered by it, but I still wanted it out. I had it removed a couple of weeks later. I don't plan on needing it again PERIOD! If I am wrong, I'll deal with it as needed.
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