February 2016 Surgeries
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My BS just referred me. Apparently he feels that all his MX patients should be tortured by those fine PT people.
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Congrats on getting the drains out bjsmiller! I got mine out this morning as well. My pathology showed no residual DCIS nor invasive cancer, so that's a huge relief. However today has been the most painful so far. My pain meds are not working now and it's been less than a week. Yikes. I feel like I have a gazillion nerve endings on fire at the moment.
I was surprised today by a voicemail from Nordstrom, telling me that they received my authorization for a list of items. At first, I was wondering if someone got ahold of my credit card, but then realized that my insurance must have put the authorization to them for bras and prosthetics. So I'll probably make an appt for week after next.
I need to do something for my mom, for her help through this. I've really relied on her to feed me and keep me going with my meds. I've taken care of the drains but she's been there for me for everything, even helping me to shower.
Goodbye to February! Thanks for keeping me company ladies through this journey this month.
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Bjsmiller, the genie bra is something I heard about on these boards. It's fantastic. Once you can tolerate it against your skin/incision area, it's wonderful. It is all stretchy so the flat side is just flat and the boob side provides light support. It comes with little modesty pads that I took out but you could leave in on the boob side if you wanted. And then, if/when you want, you could put a little soft foam form or something in the pocket of the Mx side when ready. I haven't done that yet, but again, I can't believe how quickly I'm acclimating and not feeling much need. I think when I go back to work, and/or get dressed up, I will use a form.
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I got an answer today about the awful pain. According to my MO, I have a hematoma. It's right in the crook of my underarm by my chest. I have been able to do some pt, but it's limited because of the pain.
He advised that I need to move around more so that the hematoma can be absorbed. He encouraged me to use Aleve, etc., but said it's ok to use the narco if I need to, but do those pt exercises when I take it. He also said to use a hot compress before pt exercises and then follow with a cold compress.
He was pleased with the amount of movement I do have, but wants it to increase naturally. I should be starting rads in a few weeks, so I hope that doesn't get delayed.
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had my drains out on the 29th also. Not painful. Yesterday I was very sore but not today. Aleve and ibuprofen help.
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Am I the only one who's really enjoying not having boobs?? I was a 38DD or DDD before and when I had my surgery they put my tissue expanders over my pecs and filled them with 200cc, which basically makes me completely flat chested. Before, I thought I'd go for big deep cleavage with my reconstruction but no. I'm going for as flat as I can be as long as I can still create some cleavage with a pushup bra for special occasions. There are so many activities that will be so much easier without big boobs. I might really enjoy running. I think being smaller makes me feel and look younger.
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StaceySue2U - That is awesome! A few years ago, a friend from work went through all of this. She was so thrilled with her recon because she also used it as a reduction and felt great. In fact, she came in to my office and flipped down her halter top to show me. I had to remind her that I had a glass panel door! But it was so great that she felt so good.
While I don't need a reduction, I'm hoping once this hematoma pain passes, I'll at least be more comfortable with the whole thing!
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I'm looking forward to getting these drains out and not having to wear this compression thing anymore. I'm tired of taking pain meds and being sleepy all the time.
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Congratulations Cupcaker & VSB2015 on drains out!
knitpurl, so sorry to hear about your hematoma, but glad you finally have a reason for your pain. Now, I just hope you feel much better soon.
StaceySue, I have to say your granddaughters are so cute. What are their ages?
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Got the news that there is no invasive cancer. Praise God! Having a lot of pain from the SNB. Swelling under arm and numbness all over the area that the nurse says is normal. Still have the drain in. Had allergic reaction to the dressing. Somehow got a big abrasion on my side.
Dr Anderson called with my results even though he was out of the office. Said he might have me do the stuff Dr Esserman recommended but we would talk about it later.
I am glad some people are doing so well. If you are not doing well I hope you get better soon.
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Thanks, BJsmiller, they are 1 1/2 and 2 1/2. They're coming to see me today. It's going to be so hard not to pick them up.
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StaceySue, I liked them, and I like not having them. Win-win?
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My pain finally eased out. Now it feels like the pain I expected to feel. That's weird to write. Anyway, I've also got itchiness that's more inside where everything is knitting together. Ugh. But it's getting better. Hope you're all getting better too!
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What kind of pain is normal with a BMX with lymph nodes checked? My upper arms and arm pits are so sore.
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Everything is sore, of course, but I was having really sharp pains where I was still taking narco three weeks after surgery. I've had c-sections before, and had soreness while I healed, but nothing sharp or debilitating. I was able to take care of my newborn and three year old, with some help, but no narco type drugs.
I'd heard that the mastectomy was easier to heal from than a c-section. That's what I was expecting. Maybe it is without lymph nodes taken out, but that hasn't been my experience.
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How many lymph nodes did you have out? I had 3 out on the right, none out on the left, and my left side is almost as sore as my right. I was getting very sharp debilitating pains in my right side near my ribs but only when I reached my arm a certain way. My c-section was so long ago I can't remember if it was easier or more difficult than this. I think it was easier. I stopped using my strong pain meds and switched back to advil & tylenol plus the curcumin and boswellia. The oxycodone did help the pain quite a bit more but left me so forgetful and sleepy.
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I had a umx and axillary node dissection - all on the left side. I had a biopsy for the lymph nodes, so we knew there was at least one positive node. There were two others that were enlarged on the MRI. They ended up taking out all the nodes on the left side - 22 total. Two showed there had been cancer, but were pcr from chemo.
I actually wasn't really having any problems with the hydrocodone. The sharp pain was more in the middle of my chest by the incision. It definitely took the edge off the pain. I didn't notice if it made me more forgetful - but that might be the chemo talking! But I finally eased it down. Last week, I only took it at night and yesterday was the first day I didn't take it all. Now I use Aleve, and got the ok to go back on the supplements: turmeric w/curcumin, calcium, iron, and D3. I'm also taking Vit B complex because I still have a little neuropathy in my feet from Taxol. It's not bad at all, but if the B helps, I'm all for it.
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Hello ladies! Popping in here with a question from the March Surgery board. I hope this finds you all doing well and recovering nicely! I'm 5 days out from my BMX and just have a question about numbness. I'm pretty certain that I read it was normal but just wondering what others experiences have been. The entire back side of my upper right arm (node dissection side) is numb. While I have full ROM on both sides already, this is a bit irritating. I fully intend to ask my surgeon about it but my post op appt isn't until next Tuesday....does this warrant a call? Someone tell me they had this and that feeling did come back....please!!!!
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Mecool - I had my UMX in January and still have numbness on the back of my arm and just to the back of my armpit. I think they cut nerves during the surgery and not sure if the feeling will ever come back. Glad you are doing well otherwise!
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Does anybody have any tricks for helping underarm pain and pain between the boobs? I wish i could just soak in a cool bath. I'm sitting here with cold cans of pop in my armpits. I can sleep on my side now but there are these hard little pointy bits I can feel on my tissue expanders and when I lay down on my side they rub together. I was thinking of something like a long skinny water balloon between my boobs.......
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Glad people are starting to do better.
About numbness etc... My surgery was on Feb 25th... its Mar 7 as I am writing this. I was having itchiness and sharp pain sometimes at first. They told me the itchiness could be from the oxycodon but in my case it was because I was allergic to the Primapore dressing (that is meant for sensitive skin people!) I had a UMX and SNB.. the right side of my chest, upper arm etc was numb. I still had feeling but it felt numb. I still have some pain in my arm but in the last couple days it has gotten much better. My chest feels all bruised but I think it is actually still somewhat numb. I was told not to raise my arm above shoulder level. I was told to let pain be my guide. My ROM is restricted.. for example reaching with my arm hurt. What bothered me the most was the itchiness and my arm, not the actual UMX
Mecool you could always ask to speak to the nurse. I think you might have things to talk or ask about... since that is a long time to go without being able to talk to your team. My Dr had the nurse call because he was going to be out the next week. He also called himself with my pathology results. My dr didn't say anything about numbness. I think some of the itchiness might be a normal reaction to the nerves being cut... that's why I didn't even think about being allergic to the dressing. You should definitely ask if there are limits on what you are allowed to do. Besides what I mentioned above I was told not to lift more than 5 pounds. I think it is a good idea to check the previous month's thread because those people can say what it will be like after the surgery
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Thanks, blg4! And now that you say it, my surgeon is supposed to be calling hopefully tomorrow with my pathology results so I am making a note right now to ask him about the numbness when he calls. I don't feel like I have any restricted ROM at this point and he actually told me that the more I move my arms within comfort, the less likely lymphedema would be so I'm making a point to raise and keep them lifted as often as I can. He did give me the 5# weight restrictions but I'm just doing simple arm raises. Thanks for the info though. I do feel like my chest area is still numb as well, wish the areas around my drains were! They're really the only pain I feel at all, all day and only after I drain them, even though I'm so careful to anchor them tightly.
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You might want to ask him about the drain site being painful. Mine hurt some but doesn't anymore. I was told to.. well this will be hard to describe in print but obvious in person... pull some tubing up and tape it down so that the drain site doesn't get pulled on directly. Obviously don't tape it closed.
It is weird how different drs give conflicting info. I told the nurse I was doing ROM with my arm and she acted like it was horrible but I just meant I was moving my arms so they wouldn't get stiff from never moving. I wasn't putting them over my head. I would think there should be some middle ground... not moving at all could be bad but moving too much could be bad too. I think they don't want to encourage lymph fluid to be produced. But then it would seem isn't it better to do it when the drain is still attached then wait to do it after the drain is no longer there to remove the excess fluid?
I have been concerned about the lymphedema...I have a lump in my armpit. The nurse said it is common. I don't know if that is the first sign of me getting something like that. The dr said there was a low chance I forget the percentage but it was a low percentage with SNB
I am having pain in the middle of my chest too.. Most noticeable when I touch it or if I stand up I get a pain there. hasn't been happening lately though
Just write out anything you have questions about and you can ask when he calls. of course some might be better at your next appointment such as where does he want to go after the surgery? (My Dr brought it up himself then said he would talk about it later) -
I got 3 of my 4 drains removed today and my first 50cc tissue expander fills. The drain removals and fills were 100% pain free.
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StaceySue2U… I am happy for your good results
Anybody... How long should it take for a drain to be able to be removed? I was told it needs to be draining 30ml or less for 2 consecutive 24 hour periods. I have not been that for even 1 day. The drain has been in since Feb 25. I only have 1.I see the surgeon 3-9.
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blg I got my drains on 2/25 as well. It varies for everybody and my Dr. told me not to worry if it took as long as four weeks.
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I was also told under 30 ml for 2 days. My surgeon was ready to pull one today but I'm going back on Tuesday so told him to just wait and am hopeful to have all 3 of mine removed then. I might make a call to the surgeon if I were you. My output has been decreasing some every day.
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My output has been going up and down. The surgeon said that was normal. But I have been having blood clots or tissue? plugging it up a couple times. When the blood clot comes out then my drainage increases. I will tell him about it tomorrow. When the nurse talked to me on the phone the other day, she said maybe the drain could come out. That was what made me think I should be closer to being ready. He has me off work until March 24th though. I had the impression the drain would be in for about 3 weeks. Maybe the nurse was just thinking positively.
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I had lots of those little clots and pieces of tissue in mine too. Maybe they temporarily plug the tube and then when they come out the backed up fluid comes out. From what I understand, there's not much you can do to control when the drainage decides to slow down and it's different for everybody. I have been doing a lot of walking. Some people thought that would be a bad thing and make the output increase but it didn't seem to have anything to do with it or maybe even helped it slow down. Of course I wasn't swinging my arms at all (too painful in the armpits with the drains in). My doctor told me that it wasn't a good thing or a bad thing if it took a longer time to come out and not to worry at ll if that happened.
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I only had 2 drains. The first one came out at 8 days post-op. The other one came out at 15 days post-op.
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